RE: [lace] fertility hankie
That's the one I'm making as soon as the garter is finished!! I have made Christine Springett's fertility hanky a few times and it is a piece of cake. The mounting of the scalloped lace is something else - for me at least :-). Jeanette Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] fertility hankie
I've always understood that the wheatears (pointed tallies) in Bedfordshire lace is the fertility symbol and a hankie edged with a Beds pattern which has a lot of wheatears was traditionally given to a bride to ensure that children would result from the marriage. What makes a hankie a fertility hankie, is it the design on the lace? Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] fertility hankie
I had to hand mount a largish oval edge recently. Using the pricking, I traced a slightly smaller oval onto a piece of tissue paper, tacked that to the fabric, then machine stitched along the traced oval line. I then tore the tissue paper away, and was left with a neat row of machine stitching on which to work my first row of pin stitch. This method might work for a scalloped edge like the fertility hanky. Noelene in Cooma mailto:nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au I have made Christine Springett's fertility hanky a few times and it is a piece of cake. The mounting of the scalloped lace is something else - for me at least :-). Jeanette Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] fertility hankie
Brenda said I've always understood that the wheatears (pointed tallies) in Bedfordshire lace is the fertility symbol That seems most probable as the corn dollies, made (traditionally) from the last sheaf of corn to be cut, were a fertility symbol to ensure a good harvest the following year. So whether the fertility symbolism of the lace handkerchief is literally to wish the bride fertility, or whether it's to wish her prosperity in all she does is open to interpretation. Jacquie in Lincolnshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] fertility hankie what is on my pillow
What would people choose to do for an older bride who doesn't want children, more children, or cant have them? I did work one in class which I thought was wonderful, but now I see it with more experienced eyes and see it a little thin in the leaves/tallies/wheateats. Also my eyes are not wonderful for close stitching of white on white, especially on something this important. I have made two more hanky edgings (one in torchon using elements put together by me and the other a bucks edge out of Alex Stillwells Geometrical book, which is lovely) they are sitting stored flat waiting for me to pluck up courage to mount them to the hanky material. I would rather make the lace than sew it to cloth!!! After attempting a couple of small Milanese pieces, trying to learn the techniques, improve the look and also working the correct braids my pillows are currently empty. (More work needed to get a good piece rather than a not bad piece) G.I attempted a small piece of tape in a letter G to attach to napkins for my Mums birthday, But it curled up like a snake with a mind of its own as soon as it came off the pillow, (Possible too tight a tension, especially on the single twisted gimp) so in the end I have achieved something I have waited 40 years for. I actually made two acceptable medalions in Tatting which look lovely against the cloth. I also made a small butterfly but DH preferred the medalion so I chose to make a second one to match it.I cant handle the shuttles but have achieved this using the tatting needle. :-) Sue T Dorset UK I've always understood that the wheatears (pointed tallies) in Bedfordshire lace is the fertility symbol and a hankie edged with a Beds pattern which has a lot of wheatears was traditionally given to a bride to ensure that children would result from the marriage. What makes a hankie a fertility hankie, is it the design on the lace? Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] fertility hankie
Which ever it is I don't mind either of the interpretations will suit me!!! A lady in our lace group tells me that it's to catch the tears of joy at the wedding and must not be washed!! My daughter is a 'neat freak' so it would be!! Sue in EY On 13 Mar 2011, at 09:39, laceandb...@aol.com wrote: Brenda said I've always understood that the wheatears (pointed tallies) in Bedfordshire lace is the fertility symbol That seems most probable as the corn dollies, made (traditionally) from the last sheaf of corn to be cut, were a fertility symbol to ensure a good harvest the following year. So whether the fertility symbolism of the lace handkerchief is literally to wish the bride fertility, or whether it's to wish her prosperity in all she does is open to interpretation. Jacquie in Lincolnshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] fertility hankie
Valuable information - stored for future reference!! Jeanette Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa. I had to hand mount a largish oval edge recently. Using the pricking, I traced a slightly smaller oval onto a piece of tissue paper, tacked that to the fabric, then machine stitched along the traced oval line. I then tore the tissue paper away, and was left with a neat row of machine stitching on which to work my first row of pin stitch. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] fertility hankie
I may do that as well haven't pricked the hankie yet Sue On 13 Mar 2011, at 12:55, jeanette wrote: Valuable information - stored for future reference!! I had to hand mount a largish oval edge recently. Using the pricking, I traced a slightly smaller oval onto a piece of tissue paper, tacked that to the fabric, then machine stitched along the traced oval line. I then tore the tissue paper away, and was left with a neat row of machine stitching on which to work my first row of pin stitch. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] fertility hankie what is on my pillow
I am just finishing Louise Colgan's wedding hankie. It's Torchon, with rose ground, hearts, and a trail. Rather nice, and If I can do it, you can. It's really quite pretty. lrb -Original Message- From: Sue T hurwitz...@talktalk.net Sent: Mar 13, 2011 6:20 AM To: Brenda Paternoster paternos...@appleshack.com Cc: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] fertility hankie what is on my pillow What would people choose to do for an older bride who doesn't want children, more children, or cant have them? I did work one in class which I thought was wonderful, but now I see it with more experienced eyes and see it a little thin in the leaves/tallies/wheateats. Also my eyes are not wonderful for close stitching of white on white, especially on something this important. I have made two more hanky edgings (one in torchon using elements put together by me and the other a bucks edge out of Alex Stillwells Geometrical book, which is lovely) they are sitting stored flat waiting for me to pluck up courage to mount them to the hanky material. I would rather make the lace than sew it to cloth!!! After attempting a couple of small Milanese pieces, trying to learn the techniques, improve the look and also working the correct braids my pillows are currently empty. (More work needed to get a good piece rather than a not bad piece) G.I attempted a small piece of tape in a letter G to attach to napkins for my Mums birthday, But it curled up like a snake with a mind of its own as soon as it came off the pillow, (Possible too tight a tension, especially on the single twisted gimp) so in the end I have achieved something I have waited 40 years for. I actually made two acceptable medalions in Tatting which look lovely against the cloth. I also made a small butterfly but DH preferred the medalion so I chose to make a second one to match it.I cant handle the shuttles but have achieved this using the tatting needle. :-) Sue T Dorset UK I've always understood that the wheatears (pointed tallies) in Bedfordshire lace is the fertility symbol and a hankie edged with a Beds pattern which has a lot of wheatears was traditionally given to a bride to ensure that children would result from the marriage. What makes a hankie a fertility hankie, is it the design on the lace? Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] fertility hankie
How interesting! When my daughter was married in 1994 (before I began making bobbin lace), her future mother-in-law gave me a gift at her bridal shower... it was a lace handkerchief, and in her handwritten note, she said, ...to catch the tears of joy... I had no idea that it was an old tradition! Clay On 3/13/2011 6:27 AM, Sue Duckles wrote: /snip/A lady in our lace group tells me that it's to catch the tears of joy at the wedding and must not be washed!! My daughter is a 'neat freak' so it would be!! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] fertility hankie
You mean I've got to make 3!! - Kyra (daughter), me and Coleen (Adrian's mum...) Better get lacemaking 27 hours a day!!! Sue On 13 Mar 2011, at 22:13, Clay Blackwell wrote: How interesting! When my daughter was married in 1994 (before I began making bobbin lace), her future mother-in-law gave me a gift at her bridal shower... it was a lace handkerchief, and in her handwritten note, she said, ...to catch the tears of joy... I had no idea that it was an old tradition! Clay On 3/13/2011 6:27 AM, Sue Duckles wrote: /snip/A lady in our lace group tells me that it's to catch the tears of joy at the wedding and must not be washed!! My daughter is a 'neat freak' so it would be!! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] fertility hankie
Bev Walker wrote: What makes a hankie a fertility hankie, is it the design on the lace? I'm not an authority here, but I think the answer to the question is YES. I bet it's the same as for Pysanky Easter eggs, which I'm working on now, as it's the season. They, like many Christmas decorations, use fertility symbols. Christine Springett's fertility hankie in Lace for Special Occasions has what look like wheat sheaves on it. I can only assume it's a tradigional pattern for that, as her other Beds lace wedding hankie has hearts with sheaves of wheat in the heart, and I can only assume it also has fertility symbolism. If you make Pysanky eggs, the books tell you what the symbols mean, and you can thus 'personalize' the egg if you're making a gift. I don't think there's anything similar for lace. On the other hand church lace tends to have a lot of crosses and trefoils. lrb - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] fertility hankie
That's the one I'm making as soon as the garter is finished!! Sue in East Yorkshire On 12 Mar 2011, at 23:40, lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote: Bev Walker wrote: What makes a hankie a fertility hankie, is it the design on the lace? Christine Springett's fertility hankie in Lace for Special Occasions has what look like wheat sheaves on it. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
