[lace] lace timeline

2017-12-16 Thread Lorelei Halley
Lorri

Some time ago I wrote up a brief summary of bobbin lace history. It is not
exactly a timeline.

http://lynxlace.com/bobbinlacehistoryoverview.html 

 

Lorelei Halley

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[lace] Lace timeline Purls

2015-07-16 Thread Susan
Hello All!  Arachne--what an embarrassment of riches!  As usual I can't thank 
you enough for all the help, resources  encouragement.  Jean, mea culpa  déjà 
vu!  I vaguely remember reading the article you referenced.  How could I have 
forgotten!  It's a quick read  hits all the high spots.  Thank you for jogging 
my foggy brain.  It truly deserves a professional print  spiral binding.  
Devon, thank you for introducing me to Judyth Gwynne!  The Illustrated 
Dictionary of Lace text  photos are lovely but the table showing the 
historical  artistic influences on lace is quite something to behold.  
Context!  And at the end, on pg222, is the simple timeline I was seeking!  
After spending the better part of two days cross referencing the Lace app with 
Lorelei's site  other online resources, I culled nine pages of notes to boil 
down into a useable chart.  Mine will probably be color coded with a legend for 
distinctive characteristics.  While I don't expect it to be particularl!
 y scholarly, I do hope it will be useful for demos etc. to help me ( 
others) visualize how we got to where we are today.  I must have been 
channeling Jean because I actually subdivided the laces in a similar way to the 
DATS article she mentioned.  My understanding of Venetian  Normandy lace is 
much improved; other areas need more study.  Lorelei, the Lace For Study link 
is fab!  One can never have too many pictures of exquisite lace  these have 
size references.  Thank you--how thoughtful  relevant!  Last but not least, 
Alex Stillwell's Cassell Illustrated Dictionary also arrived from interlibrary 
loan.  I would describe this book as Therese de Dillmont meets Pamela 
Nottingham!  Lots of terms with diagrams--oh my!  Just flipping thru, I 
stumbled upon forgotten purls.  Does this refer to a method for fixing a 
piece of lace that has lost (or forgotten) its picots?  If so, perhaps there is 
hope for a piece I made many years ago.  Dare I mention that, with these resour!
 ces alone, I now have newsletter fodder for several months!  Every new
sletter needs an educational tidbit  I can hardly wait to share.  Sincerely, 
Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA, where it's been a great day for lace!

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Re: [lace] Lace timeline Purls

2015-07-16 Thread Dmt11home
Glad you liked the Gwynne book. I thought that there was a simple time line
 in it, but when I looked, instead I found the more complex one about
historical  and artistic influences. So, thank you for drawing my attention to
the simple  time line. It is certainly a gem.
Devon


In a message dated 7/16/2015 5:22:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
hottl...@neo.rr.com writes:

Hello  All!  Arachne--what an embarrassment of riches!  As usual I can't
thank you enough for all the help, resources  encouragement.  Jean,  mea
culpa  déjà vu!  I vaguely remember reading the article you  referenced.  How
could I have forgotten!  It's a quick read   hits all the high spots.
Thank you for jogging my foggy brain.  It  truly deserves a professional print

spiral binding.  Devon, thank  you for introducing me to Judyth Gwynne!
The Illustrated Dictionary of  Lace text  photos are lovely but the table
showing the historical   artistic influences on lace is quite something to
behold.  Context!   And at the end, on pg222, is the simple timeline I was
seeking!  After  spending the better part of two days cross referencing the
Lace
app with  Lorelei's site  other online resources, I culled nine pages of
notes to  boil down into a useable chart.  Mine will probably be color coded
with a  legend for distinctive characteristics.  While I don't expect it to
be  particularly scholarly, I do hope it will be useful for demos etc. to
help  me ( others) visualize how we got to where we are today.  I must
have been channeling Jean because I actually subdivided the laces in a similar
way to the DATS article she mentioned.  My understanding of Venetian  
Normandy lace is much improved; other areas need more study.   Lorelei, the
Lace For Study link is fab!  One can never have too many  pictures of
exquisite
lace  these have size references.  Thank  you--how thoughtful  relevant!
Last but not least, Alex Stillwell's  Cassell Illustrated Dictionary also
arrived from interlibrary loan.  I  would describe this book as Therese de
Dillmont meets Pamela Nottingham!   Lots of terms with diagrams--oh my!  Just
flipping thru, I stumbled upon  forgotten purls.  Does this refer to a
method for fixing a piece of  lace that has lost (or forgotten) its picots?
If so, perhaps there is  hope for a piece I made many years ago.  Dare I
mention that, with these  resources alone, I now have newsletter fodder for
several months!  Every  newsletter needs an educational tidbit  I can hardly
wait to share.   Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA, where it's been a
great day for  lace!

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Re: [lace] lace timeline

2015-07-13 Thread Jean Leader
Susan,
A couple of years ago I was asked to write a section about identifying 
hand-made lace in a booklet that was used for a series of workshops for textile 
curators organized by Dress and Textiles Specialists (DATS) in partnership with 
the VA. As the aim was to help non-specialists to identify hand-made lace I 
tried to give an overview of how lace styles changed over time rather than 
include lots of photos which could have been rather intimidating.

The booklet is available online at

http://www.dressandtextilespecialists.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Identifying-Handmade-lace.pdf

and also includes useful information about conservation, display and storage of 
lace. 

Jean in dry but grey Glasgow

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Re: [lace] lace timeline

2015-07-13 Thread Helene Ulrich
Thank you Jean,  this is something I will surely make use of.

I will also make sure a friend who runs an antique mall has a copy for
reference when customers ask her about the lace being sold by her many
different vendors.

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Re: [lace] lace timeline

2015-07-13 Thread Lorelei Halley

Jean
Very well done! I have added a link to it to laceioli's 
IDENTIFICATION-HISTORY group, the ONLINE RESOURCES page.


Lorelei

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Susan,
A couple of years ago I was asked to write a section about identifying 
hand-made lace in a booklet that was used for a series of workshops for 
textile curators organized by Dress and Textiles Specialists (DATS) in 
partnership with the VA. 


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[lace] Lace timeline resources

2015-07-12 Thread Susan
Hello All!  While I'm waiting for the library to deliver books by Stillwell  
Gwynne, I decided to tackle the lace timeline issue  stumbled upon these 
sites.  The Barony of Ildhafn has some nice links at:  Ildhafn.lochac.sca.org.  
 Marla Mallett in Atlanta posted lace photos at:  marlamallett.com.  I believe 
there was piece identified as Mechlin there.  Hope these are helpful.  Now I 
must find a way to organize my notes in a useful format.  Sincerely, Susan 
Hottle, Erie, PA USA

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[lace] lace timeline

2015-07-12 Thread Lorelei Halley
Susan
I would also like to suggest that anyone interested in a lace timeline might
start with all the references I have collected for laceioli, where we have a
group specifically for lace identification and history. There are links to
photos, a list of online resources (reviewed for moderate to good
reliability), and a recommended book list.

Marla Mallett's site appears on the laceioli list. However, I just looked at
her bibliography (posted on her site) and find that Santina Levey's LACE does
not appear. I am sorry to say, that is a major flaw.

I especially recommend laceforstudy as a site with LOTS of very good photos,
and the dates and attributions seem to be reliable.
http://www.laceforstudy.org.uk/

Lorelei Halley
laceioli.ning.com
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lynxlace.com

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[lace] lace timeline

2015-07-03 Thread hottleco
First, let me thank all who wrote with suggestions  resources!  That's quite a 
reading list  I'd better get started before I'm in the urn.  Second, I don't 
think my effort will be particularly scholarly so perhaps I won't offend those 
who are more detail oriented.  If I can identify the major laces by quarter 
century, that would be a place to start.  I do think it will help me have a 
better understanding of the hows  whys by comparing my lace timeline to other 
historical events.  When I found that my taste in music  art shared a 
timeline, it was an epiphany.  Lorelei, your many wonderful 
examples/explanations on your website are very helpful.  Unfortunately, I'm not 
a member of Pinterest so can't view anything using your link so will use your 
regular site.  Linda, thanks for mentioning genealogy as some laces might 
better relate to a lace tree.  Devon, Adele  Agnes, I will ask the library 
to track down the Gwynne Dictionary.  It will give them something to do besides 
!
 requesting James Patterson novels  DVDs.  Plus it's always good to try before 
you buy.  Brian, thanks for the Honiton reference.  One can never know enough 
about this charming technique!  Last but not least, it would seem like I could 
cross reference some of the entries in the Lace app.  It's moments like this 
that make me wish I could remember how to use Excel--fill in the cells  sort 
by category!  Egad.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA

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[lace] Lace timeline.

2015-06-29 Thread Brian Lemin
This is not my subject however, as a self appointed guardian of  East 
Midland lace activities I would like to point you to H J Yallop.  The 
History of the Honiton Lace Industry.  Exeter Press.


I know that Mrs Bury Palliser. History of Lace. Dover Press, does not have a 
good reputation for accuracy.  However she does history in a somewhat chatty 
manner, and i can not think that all her writing is incorrect.  She is a 
good source of a wide ranging history of lace.  I would suggest that users 
of her book check the facts a little more than usual.


In a non academic way, I rather like her book!

Of course, you will all know that Gertrude Whiting is my favourite writer of 
all things lace and tools.  However i could not point you to one of her 
books that would be particularly useful in creating a timeline.


Oh, I almost forgot, I suspect a lot of information could be gleaned from 
Alexandra Stilwell’s, Illustrated Dictionary of Lacemaking, Cassel. 
[sorry!!]


I might remind you of more than a few of my publications on lace tools were 
as a result of excellent cooperation of members of this group.  I think this 
group could provide most of the information needed for such a “timeline”.


I like  “timelines”  good luck and good cooperation.

With smiles of encouragement.

Brian

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