[lace] Large Bobbins

2007-04-02 Thread Sue Duckles
What Agnes says about her larger bobbins is true.  I used a couple of  
pairs of Mike's Longshanks for gimps (Perle 5) and you can get  
quite a lot on them!!  Not sure that they would hold too much if it  
were 5ply wool or similar tho...


Before I started buying bobbins I made some from skewers (the wood  
ones you'd throw away after a barbie!)   Cut in two with wrapping  
paper glued to them they worked well.  I spangled the bottoms of  
them.  You could increase the amount of paper to make them thicker,  
and wind a very long thin strip for the top.  The amount of plain  
skewer left is what holds the threads


0+++--0

That way you could make the + end thicker or the --- longer!!

Or just a long thin strip of paper at either end and fill the rest  
with wool!


Let us know if it works

Sue

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Re: [lace] Large bobbins?

2007-04-01 Thread Agnes Boddington
My husband actually makes double shank midland bobbins, i.e. 4cm long 
rather than the more usual 2cm.
He did this firstly for myself to be able to have worker pairs that 
needed a lot of thread for larger projects as I hate having to bring in 
a new thread. I suppose they could also serve for thicker threads?

Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK


bevw wrote:


On 3/31/07, Tamara P Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


This is a question for those of you who have made things like Bobbin
Lace scarves and belts/sashes. Since the thread/yarn for those is
likely to be thicker than usual, did you use bobbins that are larger
than normal, or did you just re-fill your everyday bobbins more
frequently?






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Re: [lace] Large bobbins?

2007-04-01 Thread Brenda Paternoster

Hello Tamara

There's an article about big bobbins on Jane Atkinson's website
http://www.lace.nildram.co.uk/html/articles.htm

I have about 100-120 (never really counted them) of the 'Large 
Continentals' imported by Tim Parker.  2nd left in the pic on Jane's 
website.  If I need still more then I use some old French style 
bobbins, though of course it's not ideal to mix sizes.


If you are planning a first or one-off piece of large scale lace I 
suggest that you use what you have but choose those with the longest 
necks.


Brenda



This is a question for those of you who have made things like Bobbin 
Lace scarves and belts/sashes. Since the thread/yarn for those is 
likely to be thicker than usual, did you use bobbins that are larger 
than normal, or did you just re-fill your everyday bobbins more 
frequently? And, if you used larger bobbins, where did you get them? 
Or did you just improvise and make them yourselves?




Brenda in Allhallows, Kent
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html

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Re: [lace] Large bobbins?

2007-04-01 Thread Janice Blair
On 3/31/07, Tamara P Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is a question for those of you who have made things like Bobbin
 Lace scarves and belts/sashes. Since the thread/yarn for those is
 likely to be thicker than usual, did you use bobbins that are larger
 than normal, or did you just re-fill your everyday bobbins more
 frequently?

We just had this discussion this week at my lace group.  I did a workshop at 
convention making a yarn scarf.  I used regular continental bobbins and wound 
on as much as I could.  Unfortunately the hitch kept burying itself in the yarn 
and that was a nuisance, especially as the yarn was a bit fluffy.  I think 
mohair might be a nightmare.

I came home and bought bamboo skewers and pony beads intending to make my own 
bobbins.  A bead at the top for the hitch and a number of beads at the bottom 
for weight and handling.  I even bought some long bone beads for the bottoms. 
Never got round to it.  We decided you could try using thin dowel as the 
skewers might be too thin and try to get glass pony beads for weight.  I also 
thought that knitting needles might work, especially the nice wooden ones 
available in the US, but that would probably be more expensive than the dowel.  
One tip, if you do decide to use yarn, be careful about not doing too tight an 
edge stitch as when my scarf came off the pillow, it tended to 'cup' rather 
than lying flat, even after it had been blocked.  I think I must have tensioned 
too hard at the end of each row!

We visited a few yarn shops in Wisconsin this week and there are some really 
nice thick silky cottons for sale which might be better to use than yarn.

Janice



 
Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
http://jblace.wordpress.com/
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/

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[lace] lace large bobbins

2007-04-01 Thread Daphne Martin

Hello one and all
   Further to what Janice was saying about dowels. A lacemaker at a 
laceday I was at recently had bobbins made out of thickish dowelling. Her 
husband had turned the necks I believe it was. The lady in question was 
doing a picture with different yarns of many thicknesses. She had them in 
bundles all over the pillow. Quite impressive.

Maybe Sue from Norfolk can add more to this thread.



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RE: [lace] lace large bobbins

2007-04-01 Thread Sue
Hallo Daphne and other spiders
Yes the lady was my friend Christine Cooper because initially it was a
trial piece she did not want to spend a lot of money on large bobbins so
her husband made the bobbins out of dowelling which he turned on the
lathe. I believe that he got about three out of each length, she has now
finished the piece it is to be the background for a piece called Indian
Summer because of all the vibrant colours she will now decorate it with
all sorts of Indian beads,etc it will look quite stunning on completion.

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK

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Hello one and all
Further to what Janice was saying about dowels. A lacemaker
at a 
laceday I was at recently had bobbins made out of thickish dowelling.
Her 
husband had turned the necks I believe it was. The lady in question was 
doing a picture with different yarns of many thicknesses. She had them
in 
bundles all over the pillow. Quite impressive.
Maybe Sue from Norfolk can add more to this thread.



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[lace] Large bobbins?

2007-03-31 Thread Tamara P Duvall

Gentle Spiders,

This is a question for those of you who have made things like Bobbin 
Lace scarves and belts/sashes. Since the thread/yarn for those is 
likely to be thicker than usual, did you use bobbins that are larger 
than normal, or did you just re-fill your everyday bobbins more 
frequently? And, if you used larger bobbins, where did you get them? Or 
did you just improvise and make them yourselves?


The deeper I delve into the 16thc plaited laces, the more in love I am 
with them and I'm (almost g) ready to try and make something 
other/bigger than just a bookmark/sample, which is what I'll be doing 
for pattern publication. But there's no way I can wind enough of thick 
thread to make something that's a yard or more in length, onto my 
everyday bobbins...

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Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
 
 


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RE: [lace] Large bobbins?

2007-03-31 Thread Noelene Lafferty
When I did my tape lace wall hanging in heavy, slubbed weaving linen, I used
tapestry bobbins which I purchased from Ashfords, a New Zealand company who
have an agent close to Cooma.  They are about 7 inches long and look
somewhat like an overgrown Honiton bobbin, with a longer neck and more
bulbous body, tapering to a point.   They held a lot of thread.  A Google
search of tapestry bobbins turned up a wide range of USA suppliers.

Noelene in Cooma
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 This is a question for those of you who have made things like Bobbin
 Lace scarves and belts/sashes. Since the thread/yarn for those is
 likely to be thicker than usual, did you use bobbins that are larger
 than normal, or did you just re-fill your everyday bobbins more
 frequently? And, if you used larger bobbins, where did you get them? Or
 did you just improvise and make them yourselves?
 
 Tamara P Duvall 

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Re: [lace] Large bobbins?

2007-03-31 Thread bevw

On 3/31/07, Tamara P Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This is a question for those of you who have made things like Bobbin
Lace scarves and belts/sashes. Since the thread/yarn for those is
likely to be thicker than usual, did you use bobbins that are larger
than normal, or did you just re-fill your everyday bobbins more
frequently?


IMO refilling often is counterproductive for those projects that use
larger thread/yarn. When I make something like that, I take the time
to sample first to get a good estimate of the length needed per
bobbin, if not for the complete length/project, enough to know that
refilling won't be that often.

For packaging, I use the largest bobbins I have and overfill them if
necessary - winding onto the bottom part of the bobbin and back to the
usual winding area.
My favourite for this purpose are the Spanish bobbins because they are
mostly plain, nothing sticking out that would likely catch threads.
Any bobbin with generous thread-winding area (shank? neck?) would do -
I have quite a few of a style made at one time by a bobbin turner in
Vancouver BC,  a  Mr. LeGrande. I've used these bobbins for everything
from Buckspoint to scarves (they work best for Torchon though g).

My present project underway with larger thread on these bobbins is
silk, which packs impressively. You can get a lot of silk onto a
bobbin. I don't hitch around the head, rather I put the hitch on the
winding area.

HTH

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Bev in Sooke BC (on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada)

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[lace] large bobbins

2004-08-27 Thread Lorelei Halley
Weronika
I have some large Danish bobbins, about 5 inches long.  They are intended
for use with thicker than usual threads.  They might not break fine thread,
but they are clunky and one would normally not want to use them unless
necessary.  They seem to work with pearl cotton size 8 or thicker, linen
20/2, or perhaps fingering weight wool.  Any of these yarns are so thick
that most normal size bobbins could not hold enough to make any substantial
length of lace, and you'd be constantly replenishing your bobbins.  Also
normal weight bobbins would not give enough weight to tension these thicker
threads sufficiently.  So if you are planning to work with thick threads,
the larger Danish bobbins are useful to have on hand.  Otherwise not, I
think.
Lorelei

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RE: [lace] large bobbins

2004-08-24 Thread Panza, Robin
If they're all-wood with a ring a glass seed beads, they're not all that
heavy.  I doubt you need to worry about the weight unless you're getting
into finer than frog hair threads (like greater than 180/2).  However,
having bobbins of different lengths might bother you while making lace.  It
doesn't bother me, but some lacemakers don't like having different weight,
thickness, or length bobbins because it distracts their hands. 

Robin P.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA
http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/

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Most of them are about 5 long though.  Are such large bobbins very
different to use from normal ones?  Would they break thread, and what size
would be safe to use them with?

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[lace] large bobbins

2004-08-24 Thread Dorte Zielke
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Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [lace] large bobbins


 Hi again Weronika
 this kind of bobbins, are they like a long drop? if so it is what we use
 normaly, from very fine tread 180 to 28/2
 they are easy to lace with, I have about 1500 of them, and at the moment
am
 I using 600 in 3 different work. Some time there aint any in my box. And
if
 you have to transport your pillow, crochet a tape of 30 holes, put them in
 this tape, pin the tape down on your pillow and no problem, is also used
 when you wind your bobbin, evry time you have a pair put them in the tape,
 them they don't get tangelt.
 Dorte


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 Subject: [lace] large bobbins


  I'm looking at Danish bobbins on eBay, and I found one seller who has a
 lot
  (marine*corps).  Most of them are about 5 long though.  Are such large
 bobbins
  very different to use from normal ones?  Would they break thread, and
what
 size
  would be safe to use them with?
 
  Weronika
 
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[lace] large bobbins

2004-08-23 Thread Weronika Patena
I'm looking at Danish bobbins on eBay, and I found one seller who has a lot
(marine*corps).  Most of them are about 5 long though.  Are such large bobbins
very different to use from normal ones?  Would they break thread, and what size
would be safe to use them with?

Weronika

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Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA
http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika

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