[lace] Large Bobbins
What Agnes says about her larger bobbins is true. I used a couple of pairs of Mike's Longshanks for gimps (Perle 5) and you can get quite a lot on them!! Not sure that they would hold too much if it were 5ply wool or similar tho... Before I started buying bobbins I made some from skewers (the wood ones you'd throw away after a barbie!) Cut in two with wrapping paper glued to them they worked well. I spangled the bottoms of them. You could increase the amount of paper to make them thicker, and wind a very long thin strip for the top. The amount of plain skewer left is what holds the threads 0+++--0 That way you could make the + end thicker or the --- longer!! Or just a long thin strip of paper at either end and fill the rest with wool! Let us know if it works Sue - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Large bobbins?
My husband actually makes double shank midland bobbins, i.e. 4cm long rather than the more usual 2cm. He did this firstly for myself to be able to have worker pairs that needed a lot of thread for larger projects as I hate having to bring in a new thread. I suppose they could also serve for thicker threads? Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK bevw wrote: On 3/31/07, Tamara P Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a question for those of you who have made things like Bobbin Lace scarves and belts/sashes. Since the thread/yarn for those is likely to be thicker than usual, did you use bobbins that are larger than normal, or did you just re-fill your everyday bobbins more frequently? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Large bobbins?
Hello Tamara There's an article about big bobbins on Jane Atkinson's website http://www.lace.nildram.co.uk/html/articles.htm I have about 100-120 (never really counted them) of the 'Large Continentals' imported by Tim Parker. 2nd left in the pic on Jane's website. If I need still more then I use some old French style bobbins, though of course it's not ideal to mix sizes. If you are planning a first or one-off piece of large scale lace I suggest that you use what you have but choose those with the longest necks. Brenda This is a question for those of you who have made things like Bobbin Lace scarves and belts/sashes. Since the thread/yarn for those is likely to be thicker than usual, did you use bobbins that are larger than normal, or did you just re-fill your everyday bobbins more frequently? And, if you used larger bobbins, where did you get them? Or did you just improvise and make them yourselves? Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Large bobbins?
On 3/31/07, Tamara P Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a question for those of you who have made things like Bobbin Lace scarves and belts/sashes. Since the thread/yarn for those is likely to be thicker than usual, did you use bobbins that are larger than normal, or did you just re-fill your everyday bobbins more frequently? We just had this discussion this week at my lace group. I did a workshop at convention making a yarn scarf. I used regular continental bobbins and wound on as much as I could. Unfortunately the hitch kept burying itself in the yarn and that was a nuisance, especially as the yarn was a bit fluffy. I think mohair might be a nightmare. I came home and bought bamboo skewers and pony beads intending to make my own bobbins. A bead at the top for the hitch and a number of beads at the bottom for weight and handling. I even bought some long bone beads for the bottoms. Never got round to it. We decided you could try using thin dowel as the skewers might be too thin and try to get glass pony beads for weight. I also thought that knitting needles might work, especially the nice wooden ones available in the US, but that would probably be more expensive than the dowel. One tip, if you do decide to use yarn, be careful about not doing too tight an edge stitch as when my scarf came off the pillow, it tended to 'cup' rather than lying flat, even after it had been blocked. I think I must have tensioned too hard at the end of each row! We visited a few yarn shops in Wisconsin this week and there are some really nice thick silky cottons for sale which might be better to use than yarn. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA http://jblace.wordpress.com/ http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace large bobbins
Hello one and all Further to what Janice was saying about dowels. A lacemaker at a laceday I was at recently had bobbins made out of thickish dowelling. Her husband had turned the necks I believe it was. The lady in question was doing a picture with different yarns of many thicknesses. She had them in bundles all over the pillow. Quite impressive. Maybe Sue from Norfolk can add more to this thread. Daphne sunny chilly Norfolk _ Txt a lot? Get Messenger FREE on your mobile. https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] lace large bobbins
Hallo Daphne and other spiders Yes the lady was my friend Christine Cooper because initially it was a trial piece she did not want to spend a lot of money on large bobbins so her husband made the bobbins out of dowelling which he turned on the lathe. I believe that he got about three out of each length, she has now finished the piece it is to be the background for a piece called Indian Summer because of all the vibrant colours she will now decorate it with all sorts of Indian beads,etc it will look quite stunning on completion. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daphne Martin Sent: 01 April 2007 19:07 To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] lace large bobbins Hello one and all Further to what Janice was saying about dowels. A lacemaker at a laceday I was at recently had bobbins made out of thickish dowelling. Her husband had turned the necks I believe it was. The lady in question was doing a picture with different yarns of many thicknesses. She had them in bundles all over the pillow. Quite impressive. Maybe Sue from Norfolk can add more to this thread. Daphne sunny chilly Norfolk _ Txt a lot? Get Messenger FREE on your mobile. https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.23/740 - Release Date: 30/03/2007 13:15 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.24/741 - Release Date: 31/03/2007 20:54 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Large bobbins?
Gentle Spiders, This is a question for those of you who have made things like Bobbin Lace scarves and belts/sashes. Since the thread/yarn for those is likely to be thicker than usual, did you use bobbins that are larger than normal, or did you just re-fill your everyday bobbins more frequently? And, if you used larger bobbins, where did you get them? Or did you just improvise and make them yourselves? The deeper I delve into the 16thc plaited laces, the more in love I am with them and I'm (almost g) ready to try and make something other/bigger than just a bookmark/sample, which is what I'll be doing for pattern publication. But there's no way I can wind enough of thick thread to make something that's a yard or more in length, onto my everyday bobbins... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Large bobbins?
When I did my tape lace wall hanging in heavy, slubbed weaving linen, I used tapestry bobbins which I purchased from Ashfords, a New Zealand company who have an agent close to Cooma. They are about 7 inches long and look somewhat like an overgrown Honiton bobbin, with a longer neck and more bulbous body, tapering to a point. They held a lot of thread. A Google search of tapestry bobbins turned up a wide range of USA suppliers. Noelene in Cooma [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a question for those of you who have made things like Bobbin Lace scarves and belts/sashes. Since the thread/yarn for those is likely to be thicker than usual, did you use bobbins that are larger than normal, or did you just re-fill your everyday bobbins more frequently? And, if you used larger bobbins, where did you get them? Or did you just improvise and make them yourselves? Tamara P Duvall - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Large bobbins?
On 3/31/07, Tamara P Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a question for those of you who have made things like Bobbin Lace scarves and belts/sashes. Since the thread/yarn for those is likely to be thicker than usual, did you use bobbins that are larger than normal, or did you just re-fill your everyday bobbins more frequently? IMO refilling often is counterproductive for those projects that use larger thread/yarn. When I make something like that, I take the time to sample first to get a good estimate of the length needed per bobbin, if not for the complete length/project, enough to know that refilling won't be that often. For packaging, I use the largest bobbins I have and overfill them if necessary - winding onto the bottom part of the bobbin and back to the usual winding area. My favourite for this purpose are the Spanish bobbins because they are mostly plain, nothing sticking out that would likely catch threads. Any bobbin with generous thread-winding area (shank? neck?) would do - I have quite a few of a style made at one time by a bobbin turner in Vancouver BC, a Mr. LeGrande. I've used these bobbins for everything from Buckspoint to scarves (they work best for Torchon though g). My present project underway with larger thread on these bobbins is silk, which packs impressively. You can get a lot of silk onto a bobbin. I don't hitch around the head, rather I put the hitch on the winding area. HTH -- Bev in Sooke BC (on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] large bobbins
Weronika I have some large Danish bobbins, about 5 inches long. They are intended for use with thicker than usual threads. They might not break fine thread, but they are clunky and one would normally not want to use them unless necessary. They seem to work with pearl cotton size 8 or thicker, linen 20/2, or perhaps fingering weight wool. Any of these yarns are so thick that most normal size bobbins could not hold enough to make any substantial length of lace, and you'd be constantly replenishing your bobbins. Also normal weight bobbins would not give enough weight to tension these thicker threads sufficiently. So if you are planning to work with thick threads, the larger Danish bobbins are useful to have on hand. Otherwise not, I think. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] large bobbins
If they're all-wood with a ring a glass seed beads, they're not all that heavy. I doubt you need to worry about the weight unless you're getting into finer than frog hair threads (like greater than 180/2). However, having bobbins of different lengths might bother you while making lace. It doesn't bother me, but some lacemakers don't like having different weight, thickness, or length bobbins because it distracts their hands. Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/ -Original Message- Most of them are about 5 long though. Are such large bobbins very different to use from normal ones? Would they break thread, and what size would be safe to use them with? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] large bobbins
- Original Message - From: Dorte Zielke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Weronika Patena [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [lace] large bobbins Hi again Weronika this kind of bobbins, are they like a long drop? if so it is what we use normaly, from very fine tread 180 to 28/2 they are easy to lace with, I have about 1500 of them, and at the moment am I using 600 in 3 different work. Some time there aint any in my box. And if you have to transport your pillow, crochet a tape of 30 holes, put them in this tape, pin the tape down on your pillow and no problem, is also used when you wind your bobbin, evry time you have a pair put them in the tape, them they don't get tangelt. Dorte - Original Message - From: Weronika Patena [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 2:09 AM Subject: [lace] large bobbins I'm looking at Danish bobbins on eBay, and I found one seller who has a lot (marine*corps). Most of them are about 5 long though. Are such large bobbins very different to use from normal ones? Would they break thread, and what size would be safe to use them with? Weronika -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] large bobbins
I'm looking at Danish bobbins on eBay, and I found one seller who has a lot (marine*corps). Most of them are about 5 long though. Are such large bobbins very different to use from normal ones? Would they break thread, and what size would be safe to use them with? Weronika -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]