[lace] numbers of knitting needles

2009-02-09 Thread Jane Partridge
In message 498fbf69.3070...@telenet.be, Francis Busschaert 
francis.busscha...@telenet.be writes

hallo mrs Isabel,

why do you say that?
i m intrigued now because you are the first of a long list sayning this



Isabel Wear schreef:

Of all the purchases I have made for knitting over the years, the best, by
far is the metallic knitting gauge.  It is THE tool for any knitter.


I think what Isabel (and likely the others) is suggesting you obtain is 
a gauge for measuring the size of knitting needles - possibly the one 
she mentions not only gives a hole to measure each size needle but also 
lists the equivalent sizes against each?


The wooden needles I have (given to me years ago; I have no idea of 
their maker or type of wood) didn't have their numbers on them to start 
with - we have had to mark them, and due to the year we were given them 
they are numbered in the old UK system. Needles we buy now are all sized 
in millimetres. It can get confusing when you have old and new needles 
together - particularly around the (old) size 5 and 6 region!


I have two gauges - both old, one a plastic square which was free with 
one of the women's magazines years ago. It has holes to measure the 
needles, a ruler along one edge, and an inch-square hole for you to 
check your tension. The other, bought with some fine crochet hooks, 
sewing needles, etc from an antique shop, is brass, with a graded width 
slit down the centre - marks etched alongside the slot at intervals give 
the needle size - this goes down to extremely small sizes. Both are 
numbered to the old UK system. The gauges are useful when checking the 
size of double ended or circular needles - for some reason these are 
less likely to have their size on them!


Of course, unless the gauge gives the different numbering systems you 
will need a chart to convert between the three systems in use.


--
Jane Partridge

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Re: [lace] numbers of knitting needles

2009-02-09 Thread Francis Busschaert

AHA
and suddenly ther was light
sorry i wrongly read and  understood this gauge thingh
now i do get it
luckely one of you 'jane in particular' did understand my not 
understanding of the words
i have no problem finding the correct needel numbers or even if there 
are no numbers on it
but somehow i end up using again and again the same needles like a 4   6 
 9 and 15 metric numbers
so i wanted to order some in the big USA and then i wanted to be sure 
about what i buy

as i wanted it to match my most uesed numbers..

but indeed i have seen those gauges before in several shops in belgium
but as i recolect, they only refer to the metric system
i never seen any refering to other number systems
but anyway i had my doughts
there must be more then one system in handknitting
because i know that in machine needles we do have already 3 differnd 
systems of numbering

flatknitting versus round kniting machines versus braiding needles etc etc

so i beleven Isabel is still sleeping
and will indeed be puzzled by my question
luckely this is solved in the same time of her beautysleep

so sorry isabel
and thanks to you Jane

francis






Jane Partridge schreef:
In message 498fbf69.3070...@telenet.be, Francis Busschaert 
francis.busscha...@telenet.be writes

hallo mrs Isabel,

why do you say that?
i m intrigued now because you are the first of a long list sayning this



Isabel Wear schreef:
Of all the purchases I have made for knitting over the years, the 
best, by

far is the metallic knitting gauge.  It is THE tool for any knitter.


I think what Isabel (and likely the others) is suggesting you obtain 
is a gauge for measuring the size of knitting needles - possibly the 
one she mentions not only gives a hole to measure each size needle but 
also lists the equivalent sizes against each?


The wooden needles I have (given to me years ago; I have no idea of 
their maker or type of wood) didn't have their numbers on them to 
start with - we have had to mark them, and due to the year we were 
given them they are numbered in the old UK system. Needles we buy now 
are all sized in millimetres. It can get confusing when you have old 
and new needles together - particularly around the (old) size 5 and 6 
region!


I have two gauges - both old, one a plastic square which was free with 
one of the women's magazines years ago. It has holes to measure the 
needles, a ruler along one edge, and an inch-square hole for you to 
check your tension. The other, bought with some fine crochet hooks, 
sewing needles, etc from an antique shop, is brass, with a graded 
width slit down the centre - marks etched alongside the slot at 
intervals give the needle size - this goes down to extremely small 
sizes. Both are numbered to the old UK system. The gauges are useful 
when checking the size of double ended or circular needles - for some 
reason these are less likely to have their size on them!


Of course, unless the gauge gives the different numbering systems you 
will need a chart to convert between the three systems in use.





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Re: [lace] numbers of knitting needles

2009-02-08 Thread Francis Busschaert

hallo mrs Isabel,

why do you say that?
i m intrigued now because you are the first of a long list sayning this
i must admit that mostly i do not use needles but i use a computerised 
industrial machine

but now and then i do a bit of sampling on the classic way
it is very fast for looking for colour matshing and effects of fantasy 
threads


the reason i was looking for wooden knitting needles is that I have now 
a pear of german ebony

needles and they feel so njammy to work in
it is like you are not carrying those needles
hard to explain in a foreign language
but I feel like a knitting princes altough i am a knitting farmer
i think that after some soulsearshing i can say that it is to put away 
the feel of the industrial side of my activitys

metal and industry  versus wood and nature

so that is way i was looking if there are other wood needles on the market
and apperently there are a lot but .. a lot of differend ones
differend touches, differnd woods and grains
If i look to the metal ones I used to work in:
Like the prym metal needels and other similar ones
i sometimes have the feel that they are to heavy
and not pleasant enough in my hands
they feel cold and clinical death
it is again between the ears ofcourse but.

Bart always looks to those matters in an other way
he says it is a kind of snobisme
i do not agree

but if you have a real reason and not emotional ones like i have.
i am one and all ears
and i forgat to mention that the tik tak noise of the woods are like the 
risling of willows in the wind

and the metal kling klang tsching, well  it bothers me

francis





Isabel Wear schreef:

Of all the purchases I have made for knitting over the years, the best, by
far is the metallic knitting gauge.  It is THE tool for any knitter.  

 




Isabel Wear
Realtor
Sutton Group - West Coast 
7547 Cambie Street

Vancouver, BC V6P 3H6
Mobile: 604-377-3475
E-mail: isabel.w...@shaw.ca


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Subject: [lace] numbers of knitting needles

hallo to all
i need a fast answer
is the knitting needle numbering from USa american   needles the same 
as the numbers we use in europe

here a number 10 is 10mm dimameter
is this the same in the USA or is there quite a difference

many kind regards

francis

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Re: [lace] numbers of knitting needles

2009-02-08 Thread Clive Betty Rice
Dear Francis and others, Many years ago I took a lace knitting class with
Diane Willet at an IOLI Convention.  With diabetic neuropathy bothering
my hands and fingers, I was dropping stitiches easily.  Diane, who is a
wonderful teacher, suggested wooden needles.  I find them warm and
gentle, so...that is the initial reason I started using wooden knitting
needles.  Now with rheumatoid arthritis affecting the joints in my hands,
I already have my wooden knitting needles! I have all sizes, many
lengths, straights, double and single points, and circular.  I love
rosewood and they are quite expensive but sound h so good!  As
risling of willows in the wind. ;nbs
p;nb sp;n bsp; nbsp;
;nbs p;  ;nbs p;nb
sp;n bsp; nbsp; ;nbs
p;nb sp;n bsp; nbsp;
; Happy Knitting,Betty Ann Rice in Roanoke, Virginia USA

Feb 9, 2009 12:30:56 AM, francis.busscha...@telenet.be wrote:

  (snip)
  but if you have a real reason and not emotional ones like i have.
  i am one and all ears and i forgat to mention that the tik tak noise
  of the woods are like the
  risling of willows in the wind
  and the metal kling klang tsching, well  it bothers me

  francis

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[lace] numbers of knitting needles

2009-02-06 Thread Francis Busschaert

hallo to all
i need a fast answer
is the knitting needle numbering from USa american   needles the same 
as the numbers we use in europe

here a number 10 is 10mm dimameter
is this the same in the USA or is there quite a difference

many kind regards

francis

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Re: [lace] numbers of knitting needles

2009-02-06 Thread Clive Betty Rice
A 10 mm is the same as USA 15. Betty Ann in Roanoke, VA USA

Feb 6, 2009 10:08:00 AM, francis.busscha...@telenet.be wrote:

  hallo to all
  i need a fast answer
  is the knitting needle numbering from USa american  needles the
  same
  as the numbers we use in europe
  here a number 10 is 10mm dimameter
  is this the same in the USA or is there quite a difference

  many kind regards

  francis

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Re: [lace] numbers of knitting needles

2009-02-06 Thread ajrd barron

there is a difference, see here for a chart
http://www.yarnforward.com/needleconv.html
jenny


On 6 Feb 2009, at 15:07, Francis Busschaert wrote:


hallo to all
i need a fast answer
is the knitting needle numbering from USa american   needles the  
same as the numbers we use in europe

here a number 10 is 10mm dimameter
is this the same in the USA or is there quite a difference

many kind regards

francis

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RE: [lace] numbers of knitting needles

2009-02-06 Thread Margery Allcock
No, the US numbers don't mean millimetres - see
http://www.yarnstandards.com/hooks.html for a table of equivalents.

It only shows US - mm sizes, not the UK sizes I'm accustomed to, but it's
what you asked about G.

Margery.


margerybu...@o2.co.uk in North Hertfordshire, UK




 

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 Subject: [lace] numbers of knitting needles
 
 hallo to all
 i need a fast answer
 is the knitting needle numbering from USa american   
 needles the same 
 as the numbers we use in europe
 here a number 10 is 10mm dimameter
 is this the same in the USA or is there quite a difference
 
 many kind regards
 
 francis
 
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Re: [lace] numbers of knitting needles

2009-02-06 Thread Beth Marshall
Francis

US knitting needle sizes are different to both European (metric) and UK sizes.

There's a handy conversion table for all three at this site:

 http://www.laughinghens.com/knitting-needle-sizes.asp 

Beth 

in a beautifully sunny, cold Cheshire NW England


On Friday 06 February 2009, Francis Busschaert wrote:
 hallo to all
 i need a fast answer
 is the knitting needle numbering from USa american   needles the same
 as the numbers we use in europe
 here a number 10 is 10mm dimameter
 is this the same in the USA or is there quite a difference

 many kind regards

 francis

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