Re: [lace] progress-was blue film

2013-11-21 Thread Dmt11home
The only advantages I can see to using the sticky film is that  you can 
stick the paper pattern on the card with it, and, arguably, it  might be useful 
to keep the color of the card from transferring to the lace.  Many years 
ago I found myself trying to rehydrate threads by putting a damp  cloth over 
them to make a little vapor tent, and some color from the card  transferred 
to the lace. Also, sometimes a piece may be on a pillow for a long,  long 
time, enduring many humid summers. 
 
But, for the most part when I am at home, and I want to do a  little sample 
or something that I anticipate finishing quickly, I print the  pattern 
directly to a 110 lb weight Hammerhill card stock. I bought a 100 sheets  of 
assorted colors several printers ago and I am nowhere close to running out of  
any of the colors which are unfortunately, pale orange, pale green, gray and 
 buff (not blue). I tend to use the orange and green for white thread, and 
the  buff for colored thread.  Previous printers required me to change the  
setting to print on the card stock, but the current one, an Epson WF7510 
seems  to handle the stock just fine without having to touch the menu.
 
Printing everything on colored card stock would be best (250  sheets for 
$15.79 which is 6.3 cents per sheet/pattern, no plastic or additional  card 
required.). But,  I concede that some teachers who are traveling with  
suitcases may not want to carry card with them. Colored paper would not  
represent 
any more weight. One teacher told me once that she routinely uses  colored 
card, or colored paper at home, but that she traveled with only one copy  of 
each pattern and then reproduced them at the hotel business center. I don't  
know if it is routine to be able to copy onto colored paper  at a  hotel 
business center, so that may be an issue. However, if the convention  
organizers were to arrange to have a package or two of colored paper at the  
hotel... You can buy 500 sheets of blue paper for $9.29, (compared $.7.99  for 
500 
sheets of white paper) .With a $5 roll of Ace Hardware or  Walmart Adhesive, 
or possibly two, you could outfit 500 patterns for less than  $20. or  4 
cents a piece versus the cost to the student of $4.50 for one,  if they have 
to purchase a small piece of blue film for a single pattern. The  student 
would still have to travel with a used file folder or other card.  If there are 
300 participants and each has a pattern that costs $4.50 in blue  film, 
then total pattern costs are $1350 in blue film alone versus total cost of  
$12.00 if we all use blue paper and clear film. That is a cumulative savings of 
 $1338 that could be spent in the vendor's room on interesting thread and 
books,  supporting authors and thread producers, not the producers of contact 
 paper.
 
Devon

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Re: [lace] progress-was blue film

2013-11-21 Thread Karen Thompson
Agree with Kim about the sticky pins from the contact paper. Also, during
one workshop a student had used a pricker with a slight burr, resulting in
a small sticky hard top in each pin prick, catching the silk threads. We
tried smoothing the pricking, but without any luck. There had been no
reason for her to cover the blue cardstock pricking, except she apparently
had been told that one must cover every pricking with blue contact paper.

-Karen

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Re: [lace] progress-was blue film

2013-11-20 Thread Kim Davis
When I first began making lace I experimented with a lot of materials.  I
have a very hard time looking at certain colors without developing a
headache, so tried darker shades of green, blue and even red.  During this
time I decided to try the clear contact paper.  I found that it leaves
residue on the pins and gets them all sticky.  Do others have this
trouble?  I have always wondered if it could have something to do with
climate and humidity.  More importantly, does anyone know a product that
does not do this?  When I teach wire classes I recommend blue film, but I
also carry some for anyone that does not have it.  I am all for moving to
clear if there is a way around the stickiness issue.
Kim


On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Lin Hudren  wrote:

> Walmart also carries the matte clear contact paper for under $5 a roll
> which will last years.
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> Hugs, Lin and the Mali
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Re: [lace] progress-was blue film

2013-11-20 Thread Lin Hudren
Walmart also carries the matte clear contact paper for under $5 a roll
which will last years.



Hugs, Lin and the Mali
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[lace] progress-was blue film

2013-11-20 Thread Dmt11home
Karen, 
 
Your students must be very grateful that they don't have to  carry card, 
"paper scissors" and rare, expensive, imported, blue Contact  paper to class, 
and then spend valuable class time cutting and sticking their  patterns. 
Actually this is a return to the traditional way of doing things. When  I 
started making lace in the 1970s my teacher pricked each pattern, several  at a 
time, on a heavy tan card, inscribing the gimp line with in water  proof ink 
with a fountain pen, and charged the student for the  pricking. Photocopying 
and blue film freed the teacher from this time consuming  process. We 
welcomed progress then.
 
But now...
Imagine if you were trying to interest a young person in  taking up 
lacemaking, and you had to explain that a necessary prerequisite  is to buy an 
extremely rare blue contact paper, imported from  England costing $4.50 for a 
piece 15" x 16" to turn a single piece of  white paper blue and stick it to a 
piece of card, thus simulating  the effect of printing the pattern on a blue 
card. What do you think would  be their reaction? In fact, try explaining 
this to your husband, and see what  his reaction is :-)
 
Since it would appear that Alice in Oregon's group is in the  unenviable 
position of having to obtain a new roll of blue film to divide among  
themselves, now that the good Samaritan in Europe is no longer able to  
facilitate 
that process, perhaps they should lead the way by buying a  package of blue 
paper (or card) at Staples and urging their teachers  to use it for patterns. 
They could also buy a roll of clear matte film at Ace  Hardware, if they 
want to divide it, although in that a roll of this costs about  as much as a 
small piece of blue film, it would hardly seem to be worth the  effort.
 
Devon

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