Re: [lace] spiders in lace

2015-08-02 Thread Kathleen Harris
I was taught to remove the centre pin of the spider, and carefully tension the 
innermost threads. This removes the hole and leaves a nice flat spider. 

Kathleen, in sunny Berkshire, UK

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> On 1 Aug 2015, at 16:25, d2one...@comcast.net wrote:
> 
> In researching material for a workshop on torchon spiders for our guild, I 
> came across Gertrude Whiting's directions for "Plain Torchon Spiders", for 
> what is elsewhere described as(three-legged or two-legged) spider ground or 
> spider filling. "Pins are used in the center of the spider bodies only. These 
> centers should be raised to give an arched effect. This is done after the 
> first half of the spider body is woven, by holding the pairs nearest the pin 
> up high and tight against it while closing it...and pulling the outer pairs 
> up tight..." : contrary to more modern instructions to remove the pin and 
> smooth the spider center down. Does anyone try for that raised effect in 
> spider ground nowadays? 
> Doris O'Neill Chicago Area. 
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Re: [lace] spiders in lace

2015-08-02 Thread sueat
I was taught that I could take the centre pin out of spiders once all the 
outside legs were done at which time you can push a finger onto the centre 
and it would flatten that little dome.  Sometimes a small adjustment to the 
threads could make the difference between a lovely smooth even spider at the 
end.

Sue T Dorset UK

 Bespokethreadsandyarns  wrote:
Good to know flat spiders preferred. Can anyone remind me how not to have 
pin mark in center? Thanks


I was taught (and not by Tamara) to flatten the spiders, too.  But for me, 
flattening and removing the pinhole are the same operation.  When you remove 
the pin you have room to pull on the central pairs, bringing the threads 
into that center-most area, filling the hole and flattening the body. 
Sometimes the next-outward pairs also need to be tugged a bit.  Just don't 
pull on the outer pairs any more than necessary, or it will bunch up again.


Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
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Re: [lace] spiders in lace

2015-08-01 Thread robinlace
 Bespokethreadsandyarns  wrote: 
Good to know flat spiders preferred. Can anyone remind me how not to have pin 
mark in center? Thanks

I was taught (and not by Tamara) to flatten the spiders, too.  But for me, 
flattening and removing the pinhole are the same operation.  When you remove 
the pin you have room to pull on the central pairs, bringing the threads into 
that center-most area, filling the hole and flattening the body.  Sometimes the 
next-outward pairs also need to be tugged a bit.  Just don't pull on the outer 
pairs any more than necessary, or it will bunch up again.

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
robinl...@socal.rr.com

Parvum leve mentes capiunt
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Re: [lace] spiders in lace

2015-08-01 Thread Bespokethreadsandyarns
Good to know flat spiders preferred. Can anyone remind me how not to have pin 
mark in center? Thanks

Sue M

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> On Aug 1, 2015, at 11:25 AM, d2one...@comcast.net wrote:
> 
> In researching material for a workshop on torchon spiders for our guild, I 
> came across Gertrude Whiting's directions for "Plain Torchon Spiders", for 
> what is elsewhere described as(three-legged or two-legged) spider ground or 
> spider filling. "Pins are used in the center of the spider bodies only. These 
> centers should be raised to give an arched effect. This is done after the 
> first half of the spider body is woven, by holding the pairs nearest the pin 
> up high and tight against it while closing it...and pulling the outer pairs 
> up tight..." : contrary to more modern instructions to remove the pin and 
> smooth the spider center down. Does anyone try for that raised effect in 
> spider ground nowadays? 
> Doris O'Neill Chicago Area. 
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[lace] spiders in lace

2015-08-01 Thread d2oneill
In researching material for a workshop on torchon spiders for our guild, I came 
across Gertrude Whiting's directions for "Plain Torchon Spiders", for what is 
elsewhere described as(three-legged or two-legged) spider ground or spider 
filling. "Pins are used in the center of the spider bodies only. These centers 
should be raised to give an arched effect. This is done after the first half of 
the spider body is woven, by holding the pairs nearest the pin up high and 
tight against it while closing it...and pulling the outer pairs up tight..." : 
contrary to more modern instructions to remove the pin and smooth the spider 
center down. Does anyone try for that raised effect in spider ground nowadays? 
Doris O'Neill Chicago Area. 

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