[lace-chat] onions

2003-07-26 Thread Lynne Cumming
As a youngster my Saturday job involved preparing vegetables in the Uni
Halls of residence kitchens. Good pay, hard work but I got fed as well! As
we catered for 200+ students and covered two days of meals each Sat , onoins
meant by the the sackful! I wore hard contact lenses at the time and could
happily peel and chop a sackful of onions with no ill effects unless they
were the big Spanish ones. Then I was teased unmercifully about boyfriend
trouble as the tears streamed down my face!!! I still find the tear ratio
depends on the variety!
Lynne.
Lynne Cumming
Baldock, North Herts, Uk
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the
pig.
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[lace-chat] Day of disasters

2003-07-26 Thread Jean Nathan
Dominique wrote:

because you have to relax every two hours or so if you don't want to end up
looking like a crooked 100 years old !!! ... VBG ... and that's when we
send our mails 

Exactly what I do. Half to one hour on the computer four times a day, an
hour of chores and the rest crafts of some sort or other. I tend to do
'other crafts' in the mornings and lace from about 2.30 pm onwards.

Jean in Poole
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[lace-chat] Holidaymakers' complaints :-)

2003-07-26 Thread Scotlace
There is a piece in today's paper about bizarre complaints made by 
tourists.

An airtours spokesman said genuine complaints are always taken seriously but 
some were 'slightly strange'.  He said 'We provide hilodaymakers with as much 
information as possible about their trip, yet it seems that sometimes these 
details are taken far too literally by customers'.  A company insider said ' 
People are much more aware of their rights nowadays and much more tempted to 
blame someone if something goes wrong.  We have noticed a surge in wierd 
complaints over the last few years.  Their instinct is to lash out and blame someone, 
and because it's such a litigious culture , people always think the travel 
company must be to blame.' 

The article goes on to say that a couple recently insisted on cancelling a 
two week holiday in Majorca,demanding a refund, because of the risk of 
contracting the SARS virus   dsepite being told there was no risk.  Tey were charged 
a cancellation fee and are now suing for compensation.

The moans 

No one told us there would be fish in the sea.  The children were startled.

We had to queue outside with no air conditioning.

It is your duty as a tour operator to advise us of noisy or unruly guests be
fore we travel.

I was bitten by a mosquito - no one told me they could bite.

We booked an excursion to a water park but no one told us we had to bring 
our swimming costumes and towels.

The brochure stated:' No hairdressers at the accommodation.'  We're trainee 
hairdressers, will we be OK staying here?  (Blondes, perhaps)

It took us nine hours to fly to Jamaica from England - it only took the 
Americans three hours.

We found the sand was not like the sand in the brochure.  Your brochure 
shows the sand as yellow but it was white.

I compared the size of our one-bedroome apartment to our friends' three 
bedroom apartment and ours was significantly smaller. 

My fiance and I booked a twin bedded room and we were placed in a 
double-bedded room.  We now hold you responsible for the fact I find myself pregnant.  
This would not have happened if you had put us in the rooms we had booked.

'...And finally, from a holidaymaker in Spain
   There were too many Spanish people.  The receptoinist 
spoke Spanish.  The food is spanish.  Too many foreigners.

Patricia in Wales
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[lace-chat] book on ebay

2003-07-26 Thread Barron
there is an interesting book on ebay, my lace group has a complete copy and
I used one of the edgings to trim my spider heart from Pauline.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2336613163category=193
19

jenny barron
Scotland
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Re: [lace-chat] Weapons of mass destruction ban in the UK :-)

2003-07-26 Thread Toni Hawryluk
 As from midnight last night certain weapons of mass destruction were banned
in the UK (and, I think, other European countries).

Whoa !! Then the it in our White House is no
longer allowed entry to the UK or some of
the other European countries ? ...

 The stupid thing is that  the product.. will be repackaged (not
necessarily with a modified recipe), and will be able to be sold again.
 Jean in Poole

Yes. It is stupid. But unlike 'beauty',
'stupid' goes clear to the bone. So,
many voters may fall for *that*, too . . . sigh . . .
including people in the 'UK and some
of the other European countries'.

Toni in Seattle
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Re: [lace-chat] RE: Onions

2003-07-26 Thread Toni Hawryluk
 Reminds me of a story that's at least twenty years older than I am.
 (So don't ask for provenance!)

 After the Great War (WWI), when there was a lot of war surplus
 lying around, one little boy got his hands on a real, working gas mask
 -- and for miles around, no housewife had to grate her own horseradish.
 Joy

Aha !! a *real* entrepreneur - and a
real 'niche' market !

Toni in Seattle
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[lace-chat] RE: Mugwumps

2003-07-26 Thread Ian Chelle Long
Gidday Tamara and all,

Recently, a new word appeared on my horizon: mugwump

Within the lyrics of Creeque Alley by The Mamas  The Papas, circa 19??, are
the lines.

When Denny met Cass he gave her love bumps
Called John and Zol and that was the Mugwumps

AND

Mugwumps, high jumps, low slumps, big bumps
Don't you work as hard as you play

I never had any idea what it meant, but as soon as you mentioned the word,
it popped into my head.

Michelle
an Aussie living in Richards Bay, South Africa


Ian  Chelle Long
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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Mugwump to Adam and Eve

2003-07-26 Thread Toni Hawryluk
(snip)
 It all Started with Adam and Eve (human history),
 Tamara P Duvall

I pulled up the Seattle Library System
screens on my PC, only to discover that
*they* apparently do not *have* that
title by Armour, Richard whatever-his-
middle-initial was . . . sigh . . . so I'm
waiting now to see how to get an
Interlibrary Loan screen at home . . .

Toni in Seattle
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Re: [lace-chat] re: Mugwump and more

2003-07-26 Thread Toni Hawryluk
 http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/96feb/wordimp/wordimp.htm

 for an article that mentions mugwump etymology and a few other
 interesting words.
Tamara

The bottom line ? (for that article)

The Man (usually capitalized) soon personified the System, especially as
conceived in neo-Marxist doctrine.

I'm not sure I *want* women to have
'equal rights' as to being equally to blame
for *that* the System . . . g

Toni in Seattle
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[lace-chat] For a laugh

2003-07-26 Thread Pene Piip
Martha Stewart may soon have a new captive audience

http://www.ucomics.com/nonsequitur/

Pene Piip
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Now residing in Groton, MA, USA.
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[lace-chat] Onions

2003-07-26 Thread Lynn Carpenter
All right, I finally can't resist.

alice howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Has anyone ever tried wearing goggles while chopping?

I haven't, but I find I can chop onions tearlessly while wearing my
(rigid, gas-permeable) contact lenses.  They make me cry when I wear just
glasses.

Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA
alwen at i2k dot com
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[lace-chat] Re Summer Reading

2003-07-26 Thread Karen Butler
Laura Ingalls Wilder's books include occasional lace references, including
knitting lace.  These Happy Golden Years refers to a triangular fichu, of
white silk lace, a pattern of lovely flowers and leaves, given to her as a
wedding present by a friend.  Her works include:

The Little House books:

Little House in the Big Woods
Little House on the Prairie
On the Banks of Plum Creek
By the Shores of Silver Lake
The Long Winter
Little Town on the Prairie
These Happy Golden Years

The First Four Years, about her early married life.

Farmer Boy, about her husband's childhood

On the Way Home, The Diary or a Trip from South Dakota to Mansfield Missouri
in 1894

West From Home, Letters written from San Francisco in 1915, when she went to
visit her daughter.

A Little House Reader, a collection of writings.

A Little House Sampler, a collection of writings by Laura and her daughter
Rose Wilder Lane.

These later two include items written for newpapers

There are also other books about her life and the cookbook, including A
Little House Sampler, which has many photos of the family.

Karen, in Coventry, England
Where it continues to rain.
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[lace-chat] Re Summer Reading

2003-07-26 Thread Karen Butler
Apologies,
the later reference to Little House Sample should have read Laura's Album -
containing the history and photos of the Ingalls and Wilder Families.

Karen, In Coventry
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Re: [lace-chat] For a laugh

2003-07-26 Thread Toni Hawryluk
 Martha Stewart may soon have a new captive audience
 http://www.ucomics.com/nonsequitur/
 Pene

Correction ?
 . . . soon *be* a captive - - - audience ?

Thanks for the update, Pene, 'that girl'
upset me so much after I've been cheering
her on for being a 'real (business) role
model' - -  that I stopped reading about her.
(on the advice of a Jewish doctor - you
know the the one who says 'if it hurts,
don't do it !').

Business is one thing, 'monkey business' is
another whole thing with me.

Toni in Seattle
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[lace-chat] Blaine/Cleveland

2003-07-26 Thread Bev Walker
Hi all

For the record, Cleveland won in the 1884 reference to 'mugwumps.'

-- 
bye for now
Bev in summery Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada)
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[lace-chat] Re: Literary reference to tatting

2003-07-26 Thread Joy Beeson
At 10:58 AM 7/26/03 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Presumably/possible Mary Norton was a needle tatter.

I'm pretty sure I read The Borrowers before the advent of needle tatting.  

More likely, she was vaguely aware that both netting and tatting involved
knots.  

It seems curious for a Borrower-sized person to attempt to use a needle when
netting horsehair; it's nearly as stiff as a needle by itself.  I'll have to
find _The Borrowers Afield_ and read the passage.  I'm pretty sure I've read
that one, because I recall Pod expressing satisfaction that it was a
gentleman's boot, and therefore had been kept well oiled.

-- 
Joy Beeson
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where, according to a guy I overheard on the scanner, it's hot and muggy.  
(I've been inside sewing.)
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[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Case of the pregnant lady

2003-07-26 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
I have a *very vague* memory of seing this one before, but it must have 
been a while...

From: L.C.
 COURT DOCKET 12659 - CASE OF THE PREGNANT LADY

A lady about eight months pregnant got on a bus. She noticed the man 
opposite her was smiling at her. She immediately moved to another seat. 
 This time the smile turned into a grin, so she moved again. The man 
seemed more amused. When on the fourth move the man burst out laughing, 
she complained to the driver and he had the man arrested.

The case came up in court. The judge asked the man (about 20 yrs old) 
what he had to say for himself.

The man replied, Well your Honor, it was like this: When the lady got 
on the bus, I couldn't help but notice her condition. She sat under a 
sign that said, The Double Mint Twins Are Coming and I grinned. Then 
she moved and sat under a sign that said, Sloan's Liniment will Reduce 
The Swelling and I had to smile. Then she placed herself under a sign 
that said, William's Big Stick Did the Trick and I could hardly 
contain myself. BUT your Honor, when she moved the fourth time and sat 
under a sign that said, Goodyear Rubber Could Have Prevented This 
Accident...  I just lost it.

 CASE DISMISSED

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Tamara P Duvall
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Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
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Re: [lace-chat] Re Summer Reading

2003-07-26 Thread Martha Krieg
And if you are ever in Springfield, Missouri, you can visit the house 
she and her husband built, in which she spent the last decades of her 
life. There's also a museum with many of the objects referred to in 
the books: Pa's fiddle, and the little carved wall shelf. I can't 
remember if the lace fichu was there, but I think I recall some of 
the beadwork Mary made at the school for the blind.

Laura Ingalls Wilder's books include occasional lace references, including
knitting lace.  These Happy Golden Years refers to a triangular fichu, of
white silk lace, a pattern of lovely flowers and leaves, given to her as a
wedding present by a friend.  Her works include:
The Little House books:

Little House in the Big Woods
Little House on the Prairie
On the Banks of Plum Creek
By the Shores of Silver Lake
The Long Winter
Little Town on the Prairie
These Happy Golden Years
The First Four Years, about her early married life.

Farmer Boy, about her husband's childhood

On the Way Home, The Diary or a Trip from South Dakota to Mansfield Missouri
in 1894
West From Home, Letters written from San Francisco in 1915, when she went to
visit her daughter.
A Little House Reader, a collection of writings.

A Little House Sampler, a collection of writings by Laura and her daughter
Rose Wilder Lane.
These later two include items written for newpapers

There are also other books about her life and the cookbook, including A
Little House Sampler, which has many photos of the family.
Karen, in Coventry, England
Where it continues to rain.
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[lace-chat] Summer reading (v long)

2003-07-26 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
Gentle Spiders,

I'm getting quite good about this faith thing; *I* haven't seen a 
single message of my own posted to either list since previous Thursday 
(10th day today), but they all seem to reach y'all, so I'm less 
fashed about the fog now...  :)

My routine at the library is fairly rigid (I like *patterns* g), 
irrespective of the season: I drop off the books I had, and head for 
the new books, fiction shelves. I look for mysteries first. If I come 
accross one I had not read previously and it sounds interesting, and it 
says it's xyz'th in a series, I head for the main shelves. I used to 
head for the 'puter catalogue but, ever since they'd updated their 
puters -- some 6 months ago -- and changed everything around..  sigh... 
shelves are safer :), to see if the previous ones are available.  Plan 
B is to check with the reference desk and get *them* to tackle the 
beast.

Once I have a load of mysteries, I look in general fiction to see 
what else is new. Keep an eye open for historical romances, but there 
are fewer and fewer of those -- my favourite writers have either died 
off, or quit writing, or switched genres... So then I look for 
others...

That's a real lottery; the spine has to catch my attention first, the 
blurb and the one-line reccommendations on back need to blow the spark 
of interest into a flame... And then, if I don't know the 
reccommenders (or didn't pay attention to who it was), I can still be 
fooled, and the book can still prove to be a bummer (IMPO). That's 
especially true with a first book (and, by that, I mean a first book 
*in the genre*; someone may have a Nobel for poetry, but it's no 
guarantee they'll be any good at fiction). Doubly true about ethnic 
books (the kind where the writers have non-Anglo names in short; makes 
no diff where they *live*, or which generation they are g); the 
PC-goodwill tends to overpraise some which don't deserve it (again, 
IMPO).

Until fairly recently, I've been avoiding the ethnic ones like a 
plague, because most were awful. But, with some guidance, I read a few 
which were excellent, developed an appetite for more, and try to pick 
at least one at every library trip. It being summer and everyone bored 
enough to read, new mysteries are in short supply (thanks for 
references to older ones; some sounded right up my alley g), so the 
last trip netted 3 ethnics:
1) Monique Truong (Vietnamese American)  -- The Book of Salt
2) Samrat Upadhyay (Nepalese American) -- The Guru of Love
3) Julie Otsuka (Japanese American) -- When the Emperor Was Divine

Haven't yet read #3 (will report if it's good).

Am about 7/8th through #2.  Can't reccomend it.  It's not bad enough to 
quit after the first 20-30 pages, but adult males who screw around on 
their wives, feel bad about it but continue to screw around, somehow 
fail to engage my sympathy, even if it all happens in Nepal... :) The 
can't help myself; I'm but a tossed leaf on the river of life excuse 
never cuts much ice with me, either... The only reason I'm still 
reading the book is that the details of life in Nepal are interesting, 
especially as I compare words and customs to those I gleaned from 
reading books about India.

But #1... Oh, it's a *keeper*; a must-read book... Monique Truong; The 
Book of Salt

I don't *like* poetry (either modern or old), but I've had to read a 
fair bit of it (at the U, because that's what DH loves best, because 
I've helped in translating some). And I do love language and anyone who 
uses it with skill and subtlety *in prose*... Which Monique Truong 
does, *most definitely*.

In 1929, in Paris, Gertrude Stein and Alice B.Toklas placed an 
advertisement in a newspaper, looking for a cook... What they got, was 
a Vietnamese, male, gay -- a refugee from French Indochina. He is the 
narrator of the tale (the story starts in 1934, and backtracks, in *no 
chronological order*, through about 20 yrs).

The entire book is like modern poetry of the best kind... The rhythm to 
the sentences is unbelievably precise -- it reads like music, with a 
slightly foreign lilt, to spice it up. One never knows, for 
certain-sure, what's true and what's not; you parse and you parse, and 
you *still* have doubts as to what did the author *mean*? Summarise in 
200 words... The truths, semi-truths and outright lies are piled on 
top of one another, and shift their meaning depending on the angle 
you're asked to look at -- at the moment. It's like a cut diamond, with 
many facets -- the search for acceptance and the betrayals of love 
misplaced are the sharp edges of it, and the only things which do not 
change...

Absolutely *brilliant* (pun intended g)

-
Tamara P Duvall
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Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
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[lace-chat] Re: Mudwump

2003-07-26 Thread Louise Hume
Tamara  asked:
1) Are you familiar with the word (and how/from whom did you learn it)?
2) What does it mean to *you*?
3) Where are you in the US (or, where did your source come from)?

Have been familiar with the term since High School (Over 55 yrs ago) Amer.
History Course, with it's  political meaning . Have always thought it held a
connotation of indecision, but mainly the mudwumps disapproved of Blain's
dishonest politics, and bolted the Republican party to vote for the
Democratic candidate, Grover Cleveland.  As always, when a party splits, the
other party wins, although in 1884 the electorial votes were very close.

I heard the fence definition (sitting on a fence; the mug (face) being
on one side of it, and the wump
(rump) on the other.) when I was very young, from my older brother who is a
great punster.  I do not think it is confined to the South


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