[lace-chat] Re: driving through Wales

2005-05-08 Thread Tamara P Duvall
On May 6, 2005, at 2:15, Jacqui Butler wrote:
Two tourists were driving through Wales.
At Llanfairpwllgwyngllgogerychwryndrobwllyantsllyogogogoch, they 
stopped  for
lunch at Burger King and one tourist asked the waitress, "Before we 
order,
could you  please settle an argument for us?  Would you please 
pronounce where
we are... very slowly?"

The  blonde waitress leaned over and  said,
"Burrr-gurrr-Kinngg..."
OK. I thought it was very funny, and forwarded it to all and sundry 
non-chat members on my "clean jester" list. Got an immediate response 
from DS:

 http://www.comfychair.org/~duvall/llandad4.wav
No idea if it'll work for you, but worth a shot.
The "shot" proved to be a long string of gobbledy-gook, which just 
*might* be the way to say "Burger King" in Welsh 

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Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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Re: [lace-chat] Re: school dinners

2005-05-08 Thread Carol Adkinson
Hi All,

Yes - it does depend very much on the school, the local authority, and also
on whether the schools kitchens have been decommisioned!My grandson - a
veggie - occasionally has school dinners, which cost about £1.60 per day -
but if they have any *special* days (Christmas, St. Valentine, Hallow E'en
etc) he is always asked what he would like, and given a choice of two or
three dishes.   But - he is fortunate.   His school has kitchens, so they
cook and source their own foods, so nothing needs be brought in - they are
not allowed fizzy drinks in the lunchpacks, or chocolate, and the children
are supposed to have fresh fruit etc. in the lunchpacks, which is always
provided by the school cooks.

So - some children are lucky, and some are less so.  But all credit to Jamie
Oliver for the campaign - it seems to be having an effect generally.

Carol - in Suffolk UK

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[lace-chat] Re: Southern States Professional Engineering Exam

2005-05-08 Thread Louise Hume
If your uncle builds a still 
This is a true story.  My brother is a chemical engineer.  His first job 
right out of university was with a chemical plant located in the mountains 
of a southern state. He was in the development Lab and needed distilled 
water in a process, so decided to make the apparatus.  He had the burner, 
flasks, etc. but needed a condenser.  So he located a copper pipe, but 
couldn't figure out how to bend it in a spiral without crimping it.   One of 
the local men suggested filling the pipe with sugar and then wrapping it 
around a sapling.  DB asked if sand would work as well as sugar.  His helper 
said the it might, but they always used sugar .

For information of city folk - corn whiskey (moonshine)  is made with mash 
of corn and sugar, cooked down in a copper pot, and allowed to ferment 
before distilling out the alcohol.

Louise in Central Virginia
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[lace-chat] School dinners

2005-05-08 Thread Jean Nathan
Don't know if it's changed since I left teaching in 1997. School dinners 
were only free to children of parents on Social Security. All others had to 
pay, but the meals were subsidised at one time. I don't know if that's still 
the case. The school I taught at had its own kitchens - a lot didn't. 
Kitchens were often turned into classrooms because they needed the space, 
and meals were then shipped in from other schools which did have kitchens. 
We were fortunate and our kitchens only supplied our school's meals.

The cooks used to be employed by the local authority and that meant the 
meals had to be produced for very little money, but then everything started 
to be privatised and we had catering firms tender for the contract to supply 
the meals. That meant that they had to be able to sell the meals for a price 
laid down by the local authority (because they were still paying for those 
entitled to free meals) and still make a profit. One of the criteria was 
that the meals had to be healthy. The first company failed in the first 
term, but the one that took over did quite well. It offered pasta, salads, 
curries as well as traditional meals such as steak pie, and home-made 
sausages and burgers. The menus were strict so, for example, a child 
couldn't have steak pie with chips - they had to have two green vegetables 
instead (by green I mean no potatoes, but carrots, cabbage, peas, runner 
beans etc). Chips were only on the menu once a week, and they were coated 
with a light spice and baked, not fried. They could choose yoghurt, fruit or 
something else that was in a similar vein - chocolate and crisps were not 
allowed on the premises, let alone in the lunches.

Because the school was a disaster centre, the kitchens couldn't be closed 
down.

Don't know what the situation there is now because I don't live in the area 
any more.

Jean in Poole 

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[lace-chat] Re: school dinners

2005-05-08 Thread Anne Nicholas
Hi Liz,
At the primary school that I work in the children are only entitled to a 
free school dinner if their parents are on income support otherwise it costs 
£1.60 a day.

The Jamie Oliver programme has had a brilliant effect at our school and 
because of it last week our canteen stopped selling crisps and chocolate 
bars at lunch time and have adopted a 'Healthy Meals' programme.

As far as our staff were concerned this should of happened a long time ago 
and it is a shame that this doesn't stop the children who bring their own 
packed lunch from bringing crisps (they are not allowed chocolate in their 
packed lunch anyway)

Hope this answers your question but it does vary from borough to borough and 
so not all schools will be the same.

Best wishes,
Anne Nicholas
Hanworth
Middx.
England


We have been watching the Jamie Oliver TV series on the School dinners, and
his effort to get decent food into the schools.
Do the kids have to pay for these dinners, and if so, how much?
I have a feeling they are free, but not sure.
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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Jamie's School Dinners

2005-05-08 Thread Thelacebee
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The big issue here is that the schools won't pay more than about 40 - 60  
pence for the meal at cost, but the kids' parents are paying 60 - 80 pence  
minimum - this is why there is so much anger about the meals.  The Head  
Teachers 
moan that if they go over their cost margin then it comes out of the  library 
funds etc - when in fact it comes out of the profits from the  food.
 
However, in most inner city schools have a school population that is  
considered below the poverty line and they get free school dinners (means  
tested) 
which means then it comes out of their school budget if they go over 
 
But quite frankly the whole thing is frightening.  This is simply a  problem 
because they gave the making (and profits) from school dinners to  private 
companies and allowed the money to be removed from the schools - so to  make a 
profit they sell chips and beefburgers - which the kids flock to  buy.
 
It raises all the other problems - like school tuck shops selling crisps  and 
fizzy drinks to make money for school funds - it just shouldn't be  allowed.
 
If these foods aren't available then the kids can't eat them.
 
Or am I being stupid?

 
Regards

Liz in London

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