Re: [lace-chat] coffee and tea preference

2005-09-25 Thread romdom
 Jenny is right, the water makes a difference.


absolutely right . i use mineral water for both coffee and tea and it does
make a difference .

i love coffee and drink too much of it but definitely not instant . i must
say instant coffee to me is not coffee; it's  nescafé ,  drinkable but
definitely not tasting like coffee. ... lol ..
just like Mousline (a brand of instant mashed potatoes) which is ok but
doesn't taste like proper mashed potatoes  and is now a dish in its own
right over here . 
 the worst of all is when you've made your own puree with the wrong brand of
potatoes and get told  your  mousline is delicious . arghhh! ...

i usually buy ground coffee either from Kenya or New guinea  but the choice
of coffee depends on  what coffee maker i use . Colombia suits my french
press.  With my italian moka coffee maker (the one  you put on the stove
with the water going up through the coffee)  i use Segafredo Moka . with the
electric coffe maker i have at the office I use L'OR absolu (absolute gold
and it comes with a golden pack ... luxury ...) .
i was told Nescafe doesn't taste the same in different countries . they
adapt it to local tastes.
and of course i like strong coffee , french or italian . drinking english or
american coffee is torture (though i know you can find italian style coffee
now in both countries) . .. lol .. that's why i stick to tea when i go to
Britain ... 

i also drink tea  (and have a cat) but not as much as coffee . it's usually
my five o'clock drink . either strong english tea with milk or flavoured
tea. there's a wonderful shop here called Mariage freres where you can find
all kinds of teas from the world over and lots of flavours .784
çiii (oops . that was the cat walking across my
table) 

AND  i drink my coffe or tea without sugar (had to since i was told i had
diabetes) .  i found it was torturear first because i do  have a sweet tooth
but well i got used to it  . the big problem is :  you can't drink bad
coffee without sugar  there's nothing to hide the taste ! .

dominique from Paris
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Re: [lace-chat] Katrina devastaion

2005-09-25 Thread romdom
le 23/09/05 17:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

   I wonder also whether people will want to
 return to live somewhere where they have experienced such devastation - I
 think I would be one who would get to the highest ground, and furthest from
 the Gulf states, just in case ...

i read in a paper that's the old french quarter didn't get flooded because
it had been built higher than the flood level . the ancients did have
good ideas sometimes..  but then they didn't think they could override
nature's laws ... 

dominique from Paris 

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Re: [lace-chat] RE:tea and coffee preferences

2005-09-25 Thread Carol Adkinson
Hello Spiders All,

I am a coffee person through and through!   I will drink tea at Lace Days,
and that's the extent of my tea drinking, and that is mainly because I never
drink the 'Instant' type of coffee.I love the strong coffees, but whilst
on holiday found - in Tesco's!!! - a canned Capuccino drink, which is
supposed to be drunk ice-cold.   We put that in the picnic boxes, with the
ice-packs to keep it cool, and I loved it, so much that I think I must have
boosted by a lot the shares of whichever company makes it, over the five
weeks!Now we're back, its back to the two-cup cafetiere for breakfast,
the filter coffee maker for 'elevenses' and lunch, the two-cup catetiere in
the afternoon, and the Italian silver-metal thingy in the evening.  That
makes a really strong cup of coffee ...   And yes - I am sure I would get
shakey and flaky if I had to do without my coffee ...

Carol - in Suffolk UK - now going to make a cup of coffee, as the willpower
is ebbing away.



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[lace-chat] Re: [lace] Tonder book/abebooks

2005-09-25 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 9/25/2005 8:36:14 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
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 I've ordered through Abebooks several times. The only problem I've had is
 that once or twice after I've placed my order, I got an email back saying,
 Sorry, the book is no longer available.


Hi All --

I've had success dealing with ABE before, too -- but the thing  I found out 
is that the honest and successful handling of any book order through AbeBooks 
or AddAll is totally dependent on the actual ultimate bookseller. These are not 
book companies, but only web-listing services. I also discovered, after the 
fact, that ABE does not have any phone numbers listed on its contact page 
(although a bookseller gave me a phone number) and its headquarters are located 
in 
Canada. I don't know what kind of recourse someone would have, if they miss 
ABE's 30-day cancellation policy, dealing with international law, etc.

After talking with a bookseller about this, I found out ABE and AddAll do not 
require any kind of assurances from the booksellers they list, or conduct any 
kind of quality checking. As she said, real booksellers are very upset about 
it, because these web services will post listing for anyone or his dog, if 
they are willing to pay the listing fee. 

As I discovered, IF there is a problem, AddAll is NOT a real company at all, 
and there is NO assistance from them. ABEBooks is a little better, but not 
much. 

I went through three cycles of complaints, at all three levels (AddAll, 
ABEBooks and the third seller in NM). Nothing was really resolved until I was 
forced to cancel the credit card charge. After that, the bookseller lied, 
telling 
ABEBooks that s/he had tried to contact me numerous times, which was totally 
false, and I could prove it. 

Midway through my ordeal, which lasted 3 months, I asked my ex-FIL who lives 
in NM to try calling that third bookseller for me. He found out there is no 
listing for them in the phone book, and they also did not respond to his voice 
mail messages, as they had not to mine, also.

Apparently, this is not a real bookseller, but someone who orders books from 
someone else when s/he feels like getting around to filling an order.

This is a real risk for people dealing with companies listed on ABE or 
AddAll -- tge bookseller may or may not be a real bookseller, at all.

That's why people are better off contacting the listed bookseller directly, 
and make sure there is actually someone there, who will respond to your order 
in an honest fashion.

Regards,
Ricki
Utah

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[lace-chat] Humour

2005-09-25 Thread David Collyer

Subject: Duh!!
Donald Rumsfeld is giving the President his daily briefing, and
concludes by saying:
Yesterday, 3 Brazilian soldiers were killed in an accident
Oh No, the President exclaims. That's terrible.
His staff sit there, stunned at this display of emotion, nervously
watching as the President slumps, head in hands. Finally the President
looks up and asks...
How many is a Brazillion?

David in Ballarat


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[lace-chat] ebay plans for craft projector

2005-09-25 Thread susan
 here is a craft project to make that enlarges or projects an
object onto paper to draw or copy.  this would be a great find if i
could use it to copy my bobbin lace patterns.  i just recently had to
print mine on white paper because the printer wouldn't take contact
paper.  i'm sure there is colored paper the same size as typing paper,
but i didn't have any at the time i  needed it.  this little gadget
would come in handy for those non-computer/printer days.

ebay item.  called  Plans Instructions.build an Opaque Projector


Item number: 8220443749

from susan in tennessee,u.s.a.

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[lace-chat] Re: Katrina devastaion

2005-09-25 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On Sep 24, 2005, at 22:58, susan wrote:

every 2 or 3 months it will cost the government about 800 million 
dollars to rebuild


Not the government, which is a very unclear concept quite often.. 
You, and me, and he and she will be paying. Same as we're paying for 
scores of other bright ideas, whether we agree with them or not. So, 
it would make sense to rebuild *right* - a real city, with real people 
- than to replicate, including all the previous mistakes. At least... 
*I* would rather pay $3 towards rebuilding something that *works* (for 
New Orleans and the rest of the Gulf area), than $2 towards another 
fiasco which profits only the few cronies up top, or no one at all. 
And given that I'm already paying (through increased gas prices) to 
the benefit of the few...


I won't respond to the rest of your message... Not because I can't 
muster an argument but because - obviously - we're so far removed in 
our perceptions of what is real, that it's pointless to continue 
arguing.


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Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Katrina devastaion

2005-09-25 Thread RicTorr8
Hi All --

Some people might be interested in this article on rebuilding New Orleans -- 
at least, I thought it was interestingBut then again, I'm easily amused! 
(Even if it's really not funny)


http://www.realestatejournal.com/regionalnews/20050922-corkery.html?rejcontent=mail

Regards,
Ricki
Utah 

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[lace-chat] Re: Katrina devastaion

2005-09-25 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On Sep 25, 2005, at 4:18, romdom (Dominique) wrote:

i read in a paper that's the old french quarter didn't get flooded 
because
it had been built higher than the flood level . the ancients did 
have

good ideas sometimes..


And more options?

If you study the history of the development of the older cities - 
anywhere - the same pattern emerges *almost* universally (there's a 
city in Poland, fairly old, which was *not* built on a river. What's 
really suprising is that it never became part of the national stock of 
idiot jokes g). People built close to a source of sweet water - 
preferably *running* water, ie a river - in the first wave of 
settlement. Paris has Seine, London has Thames, Warsaw has Vistula, 
etc; sweet water (as opposed to salty, sea water) is a sine qua 
non, an essential for survival.


As a 5yr old, I was taught that, should I ever get lost in a forest 
(mushroom and berry-hunting trips were oftern organised for city 
dwellers and my parents always took me with them), I should first find 
a stream, observe in which direction it moved, and follow. Sooner or 
later, it would join another, and I was to follow the bigger stream. 
Sooner or later, there'd be a house, built close to the stream, and the 
helpful adults in it would get me reconnected with my family. It does 
sound a bit crude and idealistic 50yrs down the road, but the basic 
perception - where there's sweet water, there's a settlement - had been 
true for years.


As cities grew, *and as technology improved*, we had fewer options 
about where we'd settle but, at the same time, we were less dependent 
on the river (and the river got more polluted, but that's a different 
chapter of the story g). At the same time, the properties closest to 
the - sweet - water were the most likely to appreciate in value, 
excluding the poor from ownership (the hoopla about owning *seaside* 
property and getting rich overnight is a much younger cousin of the 
story).


So, when cities developed - inevitably, if they were to survive, they 
had to grow, develop industry and service to the industry -  they 
spread.  With the rich closest to the central sweet nut and the poor 
ones a distance away, of course... What made that possible (though not 
always easy) is that developing technology kept pace; you lived 20 
miles from the original centre, but your drinking water still reached 
you there, via a pipe. That meant it was possible for *both* the rich 
and the poor to move away from the centre. Only, by then, the rich 
could afford living 20miles away but in a higher elevation (expensive), 
while the poor couldn't, so they lived 20 miles *away from safety*. 
Hence the Katrina fiasco, when the technology (and money for it) didn't 
quite catch up with reality.


Yon French settlers who'd settled old New Orleans exhibited no more 
than common sense/old-time wisdom that *I* received, 250 yrs later - 
look for a safe place with drinking water aplenty. Over the 300yrs 
since the settlement, the realities have changed - we no longer depend 
as much on Mama Nature, but we depend more on the government to get us 
over her bitchy... er... periods? That includes people settling lower 
than sensible (unless forbidden to) and hoping to survive. That 
includes people counting on the government (on all levels) to bail 
them out of a tight corner, when unimaginable knocks on their doors. 
That includes... Lots and lots of things.


Had New Orleans *stayed* within the original settlement area, Katrina 
disaster would not have happened. Whether New Orleans would have been 
alive to receive the disaster is another story... 25% of US refineries 
are located in the Gulf (*not* the Middle East one, despite our 
fighting there g), and they're not dependent on tourist trade in any 
way; for all I know, they support it.


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[lace-chat] Re: Katrina devastaion

2005-09-25 Thread Martha Krieg
Perhaps the fact that Rita has also caused flooding in New Orleans 
will wake up even those who feel that a 100-year-event is 
guaranteed to come only every 100 years...


I love you, Jane, but your comment that because the river hasn't 
flooded your area in 250 years and you're in a 100-year zone means 
you should cancel your insurance is exactly the sort of thinking that 
causes problems. That 100-year flood comes *on average* every 100 
years, but it may in fact skip a few hundred years, then come twice 
in the same year, given the right conditions. And the reason the 
insurance is at the appraised value rather than the remaining value 
on the mortgage is to enable the insured to rebuild at today's costs. 
Neither you nor the bank could rebuild your home for the amount 
remaining on the mortgage. It's not purely to rip you off.

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