Re: [lace-chat] Re: MORE Childhood Rhymes & Chants

2007-08-09 Thread David in Ballarat

Dear Jane,
I wrote a letter to my love
And on the way I dropped it
Somebody must have picked it up
And put it in their pocket
Thief, thief, drop it,
Thief, thief, drop it...


Thanks for that - exactly the same in Australia in the 50s.

Anyone remember a skipping rope chant which went:-
Andy Pandy sugary candy
French almond raisin rock.

I can even remember how to do that one

Another favourite was:-

Wash the dishes, dry the dishes, turn the dishes over
- bit like oranges and lemons game
David in Ballarat

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[lace-chat] Re: MORE Childhood Rhymes & Chants

2007-08-09 Thread Jane Partridge
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
David in Ballarat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>I found this fascinating, for the game you describe is virtually the 
>same as what we knew as "Drop the hanky" and I'm sure we had a chant 
>for that too, but it wasn't yours and I can't for the life of me 
>remember it now.

We used

I wrote a letter to my love
And on the way I dropped it
Somebody must have picked it up
And put it in their pocket
Thief, thief, drop it,
Thief, thief, drop it...

at which point the hankie was dropped behind the new "it" and the rhyme
was sung again.

Oranges and Lemons, and In and Out the Scottish Bluebells are two I
remember from Brownies (many years ago!).

Skipping at junior school used to be

Matthew, Mark, Luke John
Next one in, follow on.
-- 
Jane Partridge

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: MORE Childhood Rhymes & Chants

2007-08-09 Thread David in Ballarat

Tamara,

Taffy was a welsh man,

I took the piece of beef,
And threw it at his head.

That would most probably be a chant for a ball game I reckon.


Why do you reckon so?


Mainly because we did have numerous rhymes for ball games where the 
ball was thrown AT someone on the last word of the ditty.




I shall gift the emroidered handkerchief to *you*!

It was a "select the next it" game, with everyone standing around in 
a circle singing the chant, while the thrower walked inside the 
circle, stopping for the next "it", when the song was over. And then 
the routine started over again. The trick was to time your walking 
speed so as to end in front of someone you liked -- and were willing 
to kiss, after dropping the hankie at his/her feet :)


I found this fascinating, for the game you describe is virtually the 
same as what we knew as "Drop the hanky" and I'm sure we had a chant 
for that too, but it wasn't yours and I can't for the life of me 
remember it now.


I don't know whether Candida's rhyme was ever supposed to *mean* 
anything -- most of those things seemed to care mostly about rhyme 
and rhythm and only superficially about making sense -- but I'd bet 
it was written by an Englishman, not a Welshman... There's nothing 
more uplifting than a bit of neighbourly "love" :)


I'd say you're pretty spot-on there.
David in Ballarat

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[lace-chat] More rhymes

2007-08-09 Thread Margery Allcock
While we're on the subject of rhymes, has anyone else heard of this one?  My
mum used to say it with me when I was very small, but lately she had
Alzheimer's disease, and died, so I couldn't ask her 8-(

Naughty little Nicodemus
Never thought to raise his hat,
Only nodded like a ninny;
Nobody was pleased at that.

And then there was something about noblemen and nursemaids ... it sounds
Victorian, or Edwardian, to me now.

So what came next?

Margery.
 
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Re: [lace-chat] Childhood Rhymes & Chants

2007-08-09 Thread Margery Allcock
As well as Eeny, meeny, miney, mo, and One potato,two potato (the counter's
fist being tapped on top of the countees' fists), we had:

Each, peach, pear, plum
Out goes Tom Thumb;
Tom Thumb's not here -
Out goes YOU!

Also, to choose between two people (say team leaders, to decide which one
gets to pick first), we did Tick Tack:  the two of you stand facing each
other, an arbitrary distance apart.  You go "Tick" while placing one foot
close in front of the other.  The he goes "Tack" and puts his foot close in
front of the other ... each heel goes down touching the toe of the previous
foot.  The winner (determined by foot lengths and initial distance) is the
one who finishes with his toes on top of the other's toes.  More fair and
less predictable .

Margery.
 

 
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Re: [lace-chat] Re: MORE Childhood Rhymes & Chants

2007-08-09 Thread Alice Howell
> >> Taffy was a welsh man,
> >> Taffy was a thief.
> >> Taffy came to my house,
> >> And stole a piece of beef.
> >>
> >> I went to Taffy's house.
> >> Taffy was in bed.
> >> I took the piece of beef,
> >> And threw it at his head.

I learned the last two lines as:

I took a marrow bone
And hit him on the head.

As a young child, I used to read the Tall Book of
Mother Goose over, and over, and over..until my
mother bought a new copy for the city library and let
me keep the old one at home.

Alice in Oregon .. cloudy and warm, but not hot --
just right for lace demo in the park this weekend.

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[lace-chat] Childhood rhymes and chants - Taffy was a Welshman

2007-08-09 Thread Jean Nathan
I haven't yet read through the rest of the rhymes that have been posted, but 
my friends and I use to chant "Taffy was a Welshman" while bouncing and 
catching two tennis balls against a wall (two-ball juggling against a wall), 
matching the rhythm of the chant to the bounce of the balls. We had 
competitions to see how many times we could chant all the way though the 
rhyme before dropping one of the balls.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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