Re: [lace-chat] Re: Gossamer threads/evolution

2005-09-08 Thread RicTorr8
In a message dated 9/8/2005 9:48:51 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 We refer to the random-change theory as the theory, rather than a 
 theory, because all other theories have dropped out of serious 
 consideration; so 
 far all our epicycle analogs have fit right in, without becoming un-needed 
 complication, so the random-change theory of evolution hasn't needed 
 replacing 
 the way the perfect-circle theory of planetary movement did.  
 


Well, I don't want to get into a big argument about all this. It's a 
minefield. Suffice it to say, there are analogues to epicycle add-ons under 
modern 
evolutionary theory, due to the lack of fossil records documenting hypothetical 
transitional links and intermediate forms. 

See, e.g.,  http://emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/evid1.htm

It has been a surprise to me to learn this, having been thoroughly educated 
through some 20+ years of school in the theory of evoltuion (albeit at a 
primarily nontechnical level - I'm not a biologist). While I was in college, I 
attended a science lecture on the holes in the theory that were emerging, 
requiring 
revisions (epicycle analogues) due to the lack of evidence of interediate 
forms. This was my first inkling that the theory is not as water-tight as is 
commonly supposed by the educated class. 

You may have heard that some of the supposed intermediate forms were recently 
exposed as frauds. See e.g. http://www.darwinism-watch.com/new_page.php

The fact is, the theory of evolution remains a theory, not a proven fact. 
(Like it or not!)

That said, I respect people's right to believe it, the same as I respect 
people's right not to believe it. We're all in the dark, here.

Regards,
Ricki
Utah

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Gossamer threads/evolution

2005-09-02 Thread RicTorr8
Tamara wrote, in part: 

Spider silk *is* the strongest fibre (per diameter) known, and very 
light for its bulk. There are attempts to reproduce it but, so far as I 
know, commercial production is not yet viable. I would suspect, if 
enough of them were plied together, they'd do more than stop a mortar 
shelll... They'd bounce it right back, like a rubber band g
Interesting! Wouldn't that be something, if we could figure out how to spin 
spider webs into thread? That sounds like another suitable task for Arachne! 
:)) Geez, just think -- I could collect all those spider webs from around the 
hills here and spin them into gold! :))) I'll work on it, and report back if 
I make any progress! (It rmust require a VERY delicate touch and a VERY VERY 
lightweight spindle!!)

Regards,
Ricki
Utah

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Gossamer threads/evolution

2005-09-02 Thread Ruth
Ricki, it was Rumplestiltskin who did the spinning into gold but it was 
straw, not spider webs LOL. If you figure out how to do it, however, 
let us all know ROTFLMAO as I'm sure there would be more than a few 
folks interested.

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Tamara wrote, in part: 

  

Interesting! Wouldn't that be something, if we could figure out how to spin 
spider webs into thread? That sounds like another suitable task for Arachne! 
:)) Geez, just think -- I could collect all those spider webs from around the 
hills here and spin them into gold! :))) I'll work on it, and report back if 
I make any progress! (It rmust require a VERY delicate touch and a VERY VERY 
lightweight spindle!!)

Regards,
Ricki
Utah

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Ruth
Omnia vincit Amor; 
et nos cedamus Amori. ~ Virgil

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