Re: [Langcom] Approval for Santali Wikipedia

[Satdeep Gill]

I am trying to look for some expert. I emailed some of them but no one
replied yet.

Best
Satdeep


On Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 10:53 AM MF-Warburg  wrote:

> Yes agreed, it seems to me that activity and page quantity are sufficient.
>
> Does anyone know an expert?
>
> 2018-04-25 13:52 GMT+02:00 Satdeep Gill :
>
>> Thats solves one of the problems. I believe the only thing left is to get
>> the content reviewed by some Santali linguist.
>>
>> Best
>> Satdeep
>>
>>
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>>
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>> 
>> Co-founder, Punjabi Wikimedians
>> 
>> Member, Affiliations Committee
>> 
>> Member, Language Committee
>> 
>>
>> On 25 April 2018 at 17:17, Amir E. Aharoni 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Noto Sans Ol Chiki is definitely available, and its license is
>>> compatible to what we require. I've fixed the link to it at
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Multilingual_support#Ol_Chiki .
>>>
>>>
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>>> 2018-04-23 19:55 GMT+03:00 Steven White :
>>>
 It seems that the only objection that has surfaced so far is from
 Michael: that there might not be a font available for this purpose—at least
 available consistent with the license requirements that we have.  So
 Satdeep, I guess there are two tasks for you now:



- Can you determine whether there are any suitable fonts available?
You can start here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Multilingual_support#Ol_Chiki,
but a couple of the links are dead, and at least one is surely a 
 commercial
font.
- Since this is the first project up for approval in the language,
can we get an expert in to evaluate the project?


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Re: [Langcom] Approval for Santali Wikipedia

[MF-Warburg]

Yes agreed, it seems to me that activity and page quantity are sufficient.

Does anyone know an expert?

2018-04-25 13:52 GMT+02:00 Satdeep Gill :

> Thats solves one of the problems. I believe the only thing left is to get
> the content reviewed by some Santali linguist.
>
> Best
> Satdeep
>
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> Regards
> Satdeep Gill
>
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> 
> Co-founder, Punjabi Wikimedians
> 
> Member, Affiliations Committee
> 
> Member, Language Committee
> 
>
> On 25 April 2018 at 17:17, Amir E. Aharoni 
> wrote:
>
>> Noto Sans Ol Chiki is definitely available, and its license is compatible
>> to what we require. I've fixed the link to it at
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Multilingual_support#Ol_Chiki .
>>
>>
>> --
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>> http://aharoni.wordpress.com
>> ‪“We're living in pieces,
>> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
>>
>> 2018-04-23 19:55 GMT+03:00 Steven White :
>>
>>> It seems that the only objection that has surfaced so far is from
>>> Michael: that there might not be a font available for this purpose—at least
>>> available consistent with the license requirements that we have.  So
>>> Satdeep, I guess there are two tasks for you now:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>- Can you determine whether there are any suitable fonts available?
>>>You can start here:  https://en.wikipedia.or
>>>g/wiki/Help:Multilingual_support#Ol_Chiki
>>>,
>>>but a couple of the links are dead, and at least one is surely a 
>>> commercial
>>>font.
>>>- Since this is the first project up for approval in the language,
>>>can we get an expert in to evaluate the project?
>>>
>>>
>>> Steven
>>>
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Re: [Langcom] Approval for Santali Wikipedia

[Satdeep Gill]

Thats solves one of the problems. I believe the only thing left is to get
the content reviewed by some Santali linguist.

Best
Satdeep


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Co-founder, Punjabi Wikimedians

Member, Affiliations Committee

Member, Language Committee


On 25 April 2018 at 17:17, Amir E. Aharoni 
wrote:

> Noto Sans Ol Chiki is definitely available, and its license is compatible
> to what we require. I've fixed the link to it at
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Multilingual_support#Ol_Chiki .
>
>
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> ‪“We're living in pieces,
> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
>
> 2018-04-23 19:55 GMT+03:00 Steven White :
>
>> It seems that the only objection that has surfaced so far is from
>> Michael: that there might not be a font available for this purpose—at least
>> available consistent with the license requirements that we have.  So
>> Satdeep, I guess there are two tasks for you now:
>>
>>
>>
>>- Can you determine whether there are any suitable fonts available?
>>You can start here:  https://en.wikipedia.or
>>g/wiki/Help:Multilingual_support#Ol_Chiki
>>,
>>but a couple of the links are dead, and at least one is surely a 
>> commercial
>>font.
>>- Since this is the first project up for approval in the language,
>>can we get an expert in to evaluate the project?
>>
>>
>> Steven
>>
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Re: [Langcom] Approval for Santali Wikipedia

[Amir E. Aharoni]

Noto Sans Ol Chiki is definitely available, and its license is compatible
to what we require. I've fixed the link to it at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Multilingual_support#Ol_Chiki .


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2018-04-23 19:55 GMT+03:00 Steven White :

> It seems that the only objection that has surfaced so far is from Michael:
> that there might not be a font available for this purpose—at least
> available consistent with the license requirements that we have.  So
> Satdeep, I guess there are two tasks for you now:
>
>
>
>- Can you determine whether there are any suitable fonts available?
>You can start here:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Multilingual_
>support#Ol_Chiki, but a couple of the links are dead, and at least one
>is surely a commercial font.
>- Since this is the first project up for approval in the language, can
>we get an expert in to evaluate the project?
>
>
> Steven
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Re: [Langcom] Approval for Santali Wikipedia

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
MediaWiki supports fonts .. It can use fonts by default.. Please contact
the language team for inclusion.. It relies on the font being freely
licensed.
Thanks,
 GerardM

On 24 April 2018 at 04:56, rhmn  wrote:

> There are fonts developed by C-Dac. One font was developed through
> Subhashish at CIS-A2K.
>
> I can share olchiki font developed by C-Dac.
>
>
> On April 23, 2018, at 10:31 PM, Satdeep Gill 
> wrote:
>
>
> I have tried with sending emails to topic language experts. I will
> continue that.
>
> I will find out about the font as well.
>
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 6:55 PM Steven White  wrote:
>
>> It seems that the only objection that has surfaced so far is from
>> Michael: that there might not be a font available for this purpose—at least
>> available consistent with the license requirements that we have.  So
>> Satdeep, I guess there are two tasks for you now:
>>
>>
>>
>>- Can you determine whether there are any suitable fonts available?
>>You can start here:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Multilingual_
>>support#Ol_Chiki, but a couple of the links are dead, and at least
>>one is surely a commercial font.
>>- Since this is the first project up for approval in the language,
>>can we get an expert in to evaluate the project?
>>
>>
>> Steven
>>
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Re: [Langcom] Approval for Santali Wikipedia

[rhmn]

There are fonts developed by C-Dac. One font was developed through Subhashish 
at CIS-A2K.

I can share olchiki font developed by C-Dac.

On April 23, 2018, at 10:31 PM, Satdeep Gill  wrote:

I have tried with sending emails to topic language experts. I will continue 
that.


I will find out about the font as well.


On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 6:55 PM Steven White  wrote:

It seems that the only objection that has surfaced so far is from Michael: that 
there might not be a font available for this purpose—at least available 
consistent with the license requirements that we have.  So Satdeep, I guess 
there are two tasks for you now:


Can you determine whether there are any suitable fonts available? You can start 
here:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Multilingual_support#Ol_Chiki, but a 
couple of the links are dead, and at least one is surely a commercial 
font.Since this is the first project up for approval in the language, can we 
get an expert in to evaluate the project?  


Steven


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Re: [Langcom] Approval for Santali Wikipedia

[Satdeep Gill]

I have tried with sending emails to topic language experts. I will continue
that.

I will find out about the font as well.

On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 6:55 PM Steven White  wrote:

> It seems that the only objection that has surfaced so far is from Michael:
> that there might not be a font available for this purpose—at least
> available consistent with the license requirements that we have.  So
> Satdeep, I guess there are two tasks for you now:
>
>
>
>- Can you determine whether there are any suitable fonts available?
>You can start here:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Multilingual_support#Ol_Chiki, but
>a couple of the links are dead, and at least one is surely a commercial
>font.
>- Since this is the first project up for approval in the language, can
>we get an expert in to evaluate the project?
>
>
> Steven
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Re: [Langcom] Approval for Santali Wikipedia

[Steven White]

It seems that the only objection that has surfaced so far is from Michael: that 
there might not be a font available for this purpose—at least available 
consistent with the license requirements that we have.  So Satdeep, I guess 
there are two tasks for you now:


  *   Can you determine whether there are any suitable fonts available? You can 
start here:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Multilingual_support#Ol_Chiki, 
but a couple of the links are dead, and at least one is surely a commercial 
font.
  *   Since this is the first project up for approval in the language, can we 
get an expert in to evaluate the project?


Steven



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Re: [Langcom] Approval for Santali Wikipedia

[Steven White]

Michael, I have been asked by User:Liuxinyu970226 to bring the following page 
to your attention: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Multilingual_support#Ol_Chiki


Steven


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Several updates (MarcoAurelio)
   2. Re: Approval for Santali Wikipedia (Michael Everson)
   3. Open Wikipedia requests dating to 2011 (fifth and final   set)
  (Steven White)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 22:28:39 +0200
From: MarcoAurelio <strig...@gmail.com>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
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Subject: Re: [Langcom] Several updates
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Hi,

>
> Rejecting request to close Malagasy Wikibooks—comment by only one LangCom
member is not sufficient to constitute consensus to close a project that
has no violatons of fundamental rules
>

Sorry but I find this rather innapropriate and contrary to LangCom voting
rules as stated at: <
https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FLanguage_committee%2FVoting_policy=02%7C01%7C%7C57857d893a0048091e6808d59edabbba%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636589584646177925=jjM1Wdz7W1Jj5KjF%2BXSD%2BbmWbwtbyX5czOknGsv1GQs%3D=0>
 and the
closure of projects policy decision policy <
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There has to be a proposal comming from a LangCom member, announced on this
list and to the community, and thereafter a voting has to take place, with
the Board holding ultimate vetoing power.

None of such steps have been taken.

The decision should be reversed as being done against policy.

Thanks, M.
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Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 23:17:27 +0100
From: Michael Everson <ever...@evertype.com>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
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Subject: Re: [Langcom] Approval for Santali Wikipedia
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It lacks an Ol Chiki font.

> On 9 Apr 2018, at 18:15, Satdeep Gill <satdeepg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Santali is a language from the Indian subcontinent with around 6.3 billion 
> speakers. The request for the Wikipedi in Santali has been there for long and 
> it was a part of CIS-A2K's 2014-15 Work Plan as well.
>
> The volunteer community has been working actively since September 2017 and 
> all the translations have been completed as well.
>
> In a campaign of supporting Indian language Wikipedia program coordinated by 
> Wikimedia Foundation , Google, Centre for Internet and Society (CIS), 
> Wikimedia India chapter (WMIN), two of their editors, Ramjit Tudu and Fagu 
> Baskey have received laptops for their consistent effort for Santali 
> Wikipedia 
> (https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSupporting_Indian_Language_Wikipedias_Program%2FSupport%2FLaptops=02%7C01%7C%7C

Re: [Langcom] Approval for Santali Wikipedia

[Michael Everson]

It lacks an Ol Chiki font. 

> On 9 Apr 2018, at 18:15, Satdeep Gill  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Santali is a language from the Indian subcontinent with around 6.3 billion 
> speakers. The request for the Wikipedi in Santali has been there for long and 
> it was a part of CIS-A2K's 2014-15 Work Plan as well. 
> 
> The volunteer community has been working actively since September 2017 and 
> all the translations have been completed as well.
> 
> In a campaign of supporting Indian language Wikipedia program coordinated by 
> Wikimedia Foundation , Google, Centre for Internet and Society (CIS), 
> Wikimedia India chapter (WMIN), two of their editors, Ramjit Tudu and Fagu 
> Baskey have received laptops for their consistent effort for Santali 
> Wikipedia 
> (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Supporting_Indian_Language_Wikipedias_Program/Support/Laptops).
>  
> 
> I even got some sample articles from a volunteer:
> 
> 1. Leonardo da Vinci
> 2. Thomas Edison
> 3. Abdul Kalam
> 
> I strongly suggest the approval of this Wikipedia as soon as possible.
> 
> Regards
> Satdeep Gill
> 
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> Co-founder, Punjabi Wikimedians
> Treasurer, Affiliations Committee
> Member, Language Committee
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Re: [Langcom] Approval for Santali Wikipedia

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Subject: Re: [Langcom] Approval for Santali Wikipedia
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Re: [Langcom] Approval for Santali Wikipedia

[Asaf Bartov]

(millions, not billions, of course.)

  A.

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 10:16 AM Satdeep Gill  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Santali is a language from the Indian subcontinent with around 6.3 billion
> speakers. The request
> 
> for the Wikipedi in Santali has been there for long and it was a part of 
> CIS-A2K's
> 2014-15 Work Plan
> 
> as well.
>
> The volunteer community has been working actively
> 
> since September 2017 and all the translations
> have been
> completed as well.
>
> In a campaign of supporting Indian language Wikipedia program coordinated
> by Wikimedia Foundation , Google, Centre for Internet and Society (CIS),
> Wikimedia India chapter (WMIN), two of their editors, Ramjit Tudu
>  and Fagu Baskey
>  have received laptops
> for their consistent effort for Santali Wikipedia (
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Supporting_Indian_Language_Wikipedias_Program/Support/Laptops).
>
>
> I even got some sample articles from a volunteer:
>
> 1. Leonardo da Vinci
> 
> 2. Thomas Edison
> 
> 3. Abdul Kalam
> 
>
> I strongly suggest the approval of this Wikipedia as soon as possible.
>
> Regards
> Satdeep Gill
>
> Community Outreach Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation
> 
> Co-founder, Punjabi Wikimedians
> 
> Treasurer, Affiliations Committee
> 
> Member, Language Committee
> 
>
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