RE: Fw: Language Independence on Serial Output of .
Greg, You're right that I'm using the format to string.vi. In my case I should've used the %.; when formatting. I would've never known there was an issue until our new FSE from Belgium couldn't get the application to work on his laptop. Anyways, the suggestions from Irene, Richard, Michael, Stephen and yourself have helped me solve the problem. Thanks again, Guy -Original Message- From: Greg McKaskle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 7:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fw: Language Independence on Serial Output of . This is great information. I think I will have to use both yours and Richard Mahoney's advice. Your suggestion will work for the mean time but I think the solution is to use Richard's format specifier %.; suggestion. Actually, I think the ultimate solution would be for NI to transparently do this formatting so I don't have to. If I send a . why would I want it to be anything else other than a .? It is hard to tell from your original post, but the decimal substitution shouldn't be happening except when formatting numeric values to string, when displaying elsewhere in the UI like on scales, and when scanning from string. So ideally, you want your numerics displayed in text to match the rest of the OS locale. The problem is when you start communicating with instruments, they don't know about locale and want things to use the period for decimal. So, if you don't care about the UI display of numerics and scales, and you want everything to be periods, set the Option to ignore the locale and use periods. If you do care about the UI, keep the locale setting and remember that when writing to instruments to use the % code to specify the decimal for that format. The % code is in the dialog for string formatting by the way. Greg McKaskle
Re: Language Independence on Serial Output of .
Holland, Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an application that outputs a string with numbers via the serial port. Ex. SG1.23,4.56,7.89. I developed the application in English but when the application was installed onto a Non-English say Holland language, the output string turns into SG1,23,4,56,7,89. The periods are replaced with commas. I believe it might happen with all languages that use commas ($1,00) rather than periods ($1.00). How can I get around this problem so that my application can be language independent? You have a couple of options: 1) Change the International Settings in your Control Panel (will affaect all applications on that computer) 2) Change the LabVIEW global settings (disable Options-Misc-Use localized decimal point) (This will affect all string formatting functions in your application. You can also add the according setting useLocalizedDecimalPoint=False to your application INI file.) 3) Define with each formatting command what format to use by prepending following: %.; use decimal point %,; use decimal comma This is great information. I think I will have to use both yours and Richard Mahoney's advice. Your suggestion will work for the mean time but I think the solution is to use Richard's format specifier %.; suggestion. Actually, I think the ultimate solution would be for NI to transparently do this formatting so I don't have to. If I send a . why would I want it to be anything else other than a .? Not sure what you mean. Mind reading software hasn't been developed yet ;-) Rolf Kalbermatter CIT Engineering Nederland BVtel: +31 (070) 415 9190 Treubstraat 7H fax: +31 (070) 415 9191 2288 EG Rijswijkhttp://www.citengineering.com Netherlands mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Language Independence on Serial Output of .
I have an application that outputs a string with numbers via the serial port. Ex. SG1.23,4.56,7.89. I developed the application in English but when the application was installed onto a Non-English say Holland language, the output string turns into SG1,23,4,56,7,89. The periods are replaced with commas. I believe it might happen with all languages that use commas ($1,00) rather than periods ($1.00). How can I get around this problem so that my application can be language independent? TIA, Guy Holland Intralase Corp.
Re: Fw: Language Independence on Serial Output of .
- Original Message - From: Holland, Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 12:15 PM Subject: Language Independence on Serial Output of . I have an application that outputs a string with numbers via the serial port. Ex. SG1.23,4.56,7.89. I developed the application in English but when the application was installed onto a Non-English say Holland language, the output string turns into SG1,23,4,56,7,89. The periods are replaced with commas. I believe it might happen with all languages that use commas ($1,00) rather than periods ($1.00). How can I get around this problem so that my application can be language independent? TIA, Guy Holland Intralase Corp. You can go to control panel-Regional Options-Numbers tab to change the Decimal Symbol to . instead of '. But that will affect all the decimal numbers on that computer. So may not be the best way to handle it. Unless you can retrieve what the decimal symbol is used in a computer, then you can programmatically change your command string to match that settings or you have to make up a list of all the contries that use , for decimal numbers so that you can set the strings correctly depends on the user input what country they are. I know Germany use ' instead of . too at least. = Irene He [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn Messenger ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hytekautomation.com www.geocities.com/irene_he
RE: Language Independence on Serial Output of .
Guy, If you use a format specifier of %.; to format your code prior to sending it out, you wont have this issue. If you don't use any format, the system default will be used. and different systems will have different defaults. To strictly control this format to be the same everywhere, add the format identifier. Refer to the localization code entry in the Help reference... HTH Rick M. Lockheed Martin Corp. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Holland, Guy Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 12:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Language Independence on Serial Output of . I have an application that outputs a string with numbers via the serial port. Ex. SG1.23,4.56,7.89. I developed the application in English but when the application was installed onto a Non-English say Holland language, the output string turns into SG1,23,4,56,7,89. The periods are replaced with commas. I believe it might happen with all languages that use commas ($1,00) rather than periods ($1.00). How can I get around this problem so that my application can be language independent? TIA, Guy Holland Intralase Corp.
RE: Fw: Language Independence on Serial Output of .
Irene, This is great information. I think I will have to use both yours and Richard Mahoney's advice. Your suggestion will work for the mean time but I think the solution is to use Richard's format specifier %.; suggestion. Actually, I think the ultimate solution would be for NI to transparently do this formatting so I don't have to. If I send a . why would I want it to be anything else other than a .? Thank you, Guy -Original Message- From: Irene He [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Holland, Guy Subject: Re: Fw: Language Independence on Serial Output of . - Original Message - From: Holland, Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 12:15 PM Subject: Language Independence on Serial Output of . I have an application that outputs a string with numbers via the serial port. Ex. SG1.23,4.56,7.89. I developed the application in English but when the application was installed onto a Non-English say Holland language, the output string turns into SG1,23,4,56,7,89. The periods are replaced with commas. I believe it might happen with all languages that use commas ($1,00) rather than periods ($1.00). How can I get around this problem so that my application can be language independent? TIA, Guy Holland Intralase Corp. You can go to control panel-Regional Options-Numbers tab to change the Decimal Symbol to . instead of '. But that will affect all the decimal numbers on that computer. So may not be the best way to handle it. Unless you can retrieve what the decimal symbol is used in a computer, then you can programmatically change your command string to match that settings or you have to make up a list of all the contries that use , for decimal numbers so that you can set the strings correctly depends on the user input what country they are. I know Germany use ' instead of . too at least. = Irene He [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn Messenger ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hytekautomation.com www.geocities.com/irene_he
RE: Fw: Language Independence on Serial Output of .
If I send a . why would I want it to be anything else other than a .? Because the person who wrote it down was working in Language A and the person who read it later was working in Language B. LabVIEW does transparently handle things for you -- it handles the localization issue so that you do not have to detect which language you're working in to correctly display the information. Your original e-mail asked how you could make your application language independent. What you really want is how to make your program language dependent -- as in, it always displays in a particular language's formatting regardless of what machine the code is running on. Pojundery, Stephen R. Mercer -= LabVIEW RD =-
RE: Language Independence on Serial Output of .
Don't change anything in your OS or code. Just add the following in your LabVIEW.ini file: useLocaleDecimalPt=False Add the above to your application (exe) ini as well. I had the same problem for a German install. Thank You Michael Aivaliotis http://forums.lavausergroup.org I have an application that outputs a string with numbers via the serial port. Ex. SG1.23,4.56,7.89. I developed the application in English but when the application was installed onto a Non-English say Holland language, the output string turns into SG1,23,4,56,7,89. The periods are replaced with commas. I believe it might happen with all languages that use commas ($1,00) rather than periods ($1.00). How can I get around this problem so that my application can be language independent?
Re: Fw: Language Independence on Serial Output of .
This is great information. I think I will have to use both yours and Richard Mahoney's advice. Your suggestion will work for the mean time but I think the solution is to use Richard's format specifier %.; suggestion. Actually, I think the ultimate solution would be for NI to transparently do this formatting so I don't have to. If I send a . why would I want it to be anything else other than a .? It is hard to tell from your original post, but the decimal substitution shouldn't be happening except when formatting numeric values to string, when displaying elsewhere in the UI like on scales, and when scanning from string. So ideally, you want your numerics displayed in text to match the rest of the OS locale. The problem is when you start communicating with instruments, they don't know about locale and want things to use the period for decimal. So, if you don't care about the UI display of numerics and scales, and you want everything to be periods, set the Option to ignore the locale and use periods. If you do care about the UI, keep the locale setting and remember that when writing to instruments to use the % code to specify the decimal for that format. The % code is in the dialog for string formatting by the way. Greg McKaskle
