Re: [Lazarus] Why we chose Object Pascal instead
waldo kitty ha scritto: Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: I can't agree more... We have had this exact same issue in our company (before I arrived). They hired cheap (inexperienced) developers that caused havoc in the code. They make the GUI seem fine for a while, but underneath the design (if there actually was a design) is totally rubbish and unable to cope with new requirements. Hence the reason I was commissioned to do a total rewrite. That's why neither Cobol nor VB will ever die: they make secure long-term jobs that's also why real coders do not comment their source code ;) We had a guy who'd found an even more clever way. He did comment the code, but his comments reported what the code didn't do, instead of what the code was doing. Sort of an embedded and disguised TODO list, which could easily lead to believe that a feature was implemented, when actually it wasn't! -- Giuliano Colla Whenever people agree with me, I always feel I must be wrong (O. Wilde) ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Why we chose Object Pascal instead
Giuliano Colla wrote: waldo kitty ha scritto: Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: I can't agree more... We have had this exact same issue in our company (before I arrived). They hired cheap (inexperienced) developers that caused havoc in the code. They make the GUI seem fine for a while, but underneath the design (if there actually was a design) is totally rubbish and unable to cope with new requirements. Hence the reason I was commissioned to do a total rewrite. That's why neither Cobol nor VB will ever die: they make secure long-term jobs that's also why real coders do not comment their source code ;) We had a guy who'd found an even more clever way. He did comment the code, but his comments reported what the code didn't do, instead of what the code was doing. Sort of an embedded and disguised TODO list, which could easily lead to believe that a feature was implemented, when actually it wasn't! he, he.. !! very funny (ho riso di cuore!) :-D ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Why we chose Object Pascal instead
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: And here is the best comment about it: I can't agree more... We have had this exact same issue in our company (before I arrived). They hired cheap (inexperienced) developers that caused havoc in the code. They make the GUI seem fine for a while, but underneath the design (if there actually was a design) is totally rubbish and unable to cope with new requirements. Hence the reason I was commissioned to do a total rewrite. Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Why we chose Object Pascal instead
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: I can't agree more... We have had this exact same issue in our company (before I arrived). They hired cheap (inexperienced) developers that caused havoc in the code. They make the GUI seem fine for a while, but underneath the design (if there actually was a design) is totally rubbish and unable to cope with new requirements. Hence the reason I was commissioned to do a total rewrite. That's why neither Cobol nor VB will ever die: they make secure long-term jobs DoDi ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Why we chose Object Pascal instead
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Hans-Peter Diettrich drdiettri...@aol.com wrote: That's why neither Cobol nor VB will ever die: they make secure long-term jobs In some twisted way that is probably true. :-) Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Why we chose Object Pascal instead
Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: I can't agree more... We have had this exact same issue in our company (before I arrived). They hired cheap (inexperienced) developers that caused havoc in the code. They make the GUI seem fine for a while, but underneath the design (if there actually was a design) is totally rubbish and unable to cope with new requirements. Hence the reason I was commissioned to do a total rewrite. That's why neither Cobol nor VB will ever die: they make secure long-term jobs that's also why real coders do not comment their source code ;) -- NOTE: NEW EMAIL ADDRESS!! _\/ (@@) Waldo Kitty, Waldo's Place USA __ooO_( )_Ooo_ telnet://bbs.wpusa.dynip.com _|_|_|_|_|_|_ http://www.wpusa.dynip.com |_|_|_|_|_| ftp://ftp.wpusa.dynip.com _|_Eat_SPAM_to_email_me!_YUM!__|_ wkitty42 -at- windstream.net ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Why we chose Object Pascal instead
And here is the best comment about it: Capt. Kirk: As a customer your choices are: 1. Hire an experienced competent developer who understands the library functions, knows how to write properly structured code with appropriate variable scope and data types, or 2. Hire someone who will produce what appears to be exactly the same output. As a customer who doesn't happen to be a developer himself, the above two options translate as: 1. Hire an expensive expensive expensive who expensive the expensive expensive, knows how to write expensive expensive code with expensive expensive expensive and expensive expensive, or 2. Save a bunch of money and get exactly the same thing. -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Why we chose Object Pascal instead
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho ha scritto: And here is the best comment about it: Capt. Kirk: As a customer your choices are: 1. Hire an experienced competent developer who understands the library functions, knows how to write properly structured code with appropriate variable scope and data types, or 2. Hire someone who will produce what appears to be exactly the same output. As a customer who doesn't happen to be a developer himself, the above two options translate as: 1. Hire an expensive expensive expensive who expensive the expensive expensive, knows how to write expensive expensive code with expensive expensive expensive and expensive expensive, or 2. Save a bunch of money and get exactly the same thing. The funny thing is that whoever buys a car, a drill, a mobile phone, whatever, knows very well that what is visible doesn't tell what's inside, how reliable it is, and so on, and looks for expert advice. A lot of publishers make money printing magazines which provide a better insight on cars, cameras, phones etc. etc. Nonetheless, although everybody stumbles every day in the pitfalls of badly written software, it appears that very few apply to buying software the same kind of approach. :-( Giuliano -- Giuliano Colla Whenever people agree with me, I always feel I must be wrong (O. Wilde) ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Why we chose Object Pascal instead
And here is the best comment about it: The funniest comment about it: VB is the garbage collector: you type in your code and... there you have it, the garbage! -- -Bee- has Bee.ography at: http://beeography.wordpress.com ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Why we chose Object Pascal instead
http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Spaced-Out.aspx This is why we don't hire VB programmers!!! :-) Well, to me it seems the problem is with the programmer. I have seen a Java and also a Delphi programmer write similar code as the article mentioned. Though such kind of programmer is more common in VB world. :D -- -Bee- has Bee.ography at: http://beeography.wordpress.com ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
