Re: [Lazarus] alternative to web programming?

2019-02-15 Thread Kostas Michalopoulos via lazarus
The idea is interesting, but the implementation not so. All demos are
unusably slow and unless this spawns a VM for each instance, i
wouldn't trust any sort of "FS virtualization" they have to not be
broken - Win32 desktop APIs were not designed for applications to be
isolated from each other. This could make it only usable for
intranets, but even then the performance is so abysmal as to severely
impact any sort of productivity. And honestly, would you want to be
the poor clerk who'd have this sort of crappy responsiveness imposed
on them 8h/day?

There might be some very few uses for this, but i'm certain that there
are also better solutions for those few uses too (and some would be
solved with something like noVNC).

On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 9:56 AM Michael Schnell via lazarus
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Re: [Lazarus] alternative to web programming?

2019-02-14 Thread Michael Schnell via lazarus
There are application that require a „stylish“ GUI for optimum user 
satisfaction, …. And there are applications that do their thing more or less on 
their own, requiring human attention only for configuration and service.

-Michael

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Re: [Lazarus] alternative to web programming?

2019-02-13 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus



On Wed, 13 Feb 2019, duilio foschi via lazarus wrote:


https://www.cybelesoft.com/thinfinity/virtualui/

has somebody tried the product above?

Can it be a real alternative to web programming?


Not really. It's basically a remote desktop session in a browser. 
Some kind of terminal server solution.

How they can claim this is super scalable is beyond me.

I tried once something similar (https://www.awingu.com/), 
but had to give up. The application was too complex and the setup was too

demanding.

And you're still running a desktop app, so no responsiveness, no CSS tricks.
With today's variety in devices, it's a dead end IMO.

Michael.
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Re: [Lazarus] alternative to web programming?

2019-02-13 Thread Anthony Walter via lazarus
IMO the best things about creating and using html + css for web
applications is the power of the design. That is, you can easily style the
look of a web application to be practically anything, including dead simple
animations and transforms. So then using a framework where you have to
design the interface by using a non html + css  tool, you end up with
difficult to stylize user interfaces.

That type of toolchain seems very counter productive to me. I've even say
it wastes a lot of time for developers and graphic designers  since adding
elements and changing styles can be tweaked by anyone on your team purely
through built in browser developer tools (F12 on Windows and Linux with
most all browsers). If you're going to be dropping in html or css changes,
your workflow is going to be more difficult if you're fighting fight with
some non html + css layout tools.
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Re: [Lazarus] alternative to web programming?

2019-02-13 Thread Fabio Luis Girardi via lazarus
Maybe it's something similar to gtk3 Broadway?

Em Qua, 13 de fev de 2019 16:41, duilio foschi via lazarus <
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> https://www.cybelesoft.com/thinfinity/virtualui/
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> has somebody tried the product above?
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> Can it be a real alternative to web programming?
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> Thank you
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[Lazarus] alternative to web programming?

2019-02-13 Thread duilio foschi via lazarus
https://www.cybelesoft.com/thinfinity/virtualui/

has somebody tried the product above?

Can it be a real alternative to web programming?

Thank you

Peppe Polpo
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