Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files
Hello, thanks. T.E. středa 20. června 2018, 16:24:50, napsal jste: > 20.06.2018 16:30, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus пишет: >> Hello, >> >> I have checked project inspector, and add some files to it. This time, >> all is good, both files are updated as needs. > Good. >> Other question is : is there any possibility to describe RS for >> PoEdit, like if it is caption on some components ? Something like this >> : >> >> resourcestring >> //Text when type of addres is Button >> rsButton = 'Button'; >> //Text in list of types >> rsListButton = 'Button'; > No, but you can use meaningful string identifier names, Poedit shows them. > -- > Best regards, > Maxim Ganetsky mailto:gan...@narod.ru -- S pozdravem, Tomáš Emresz mailto:tomas.emr...@strankysnadno.cz -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files
20.06.2018 16:30, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus пишет: > Hello, > > I have checked project inspector, and add some files to it. This time, > all is good, both files are updated as needs. Good. > Other question is : is there any possibility to describe RS for > PoEdit, like if it is caption on some components ? Something like this > : > > resourcestring > //Text when type of addres is Button > rsButton = 'Button'; > //Text in list of types > rsListButton = 'Button'; No, but you can use meaningful string identifier names, Poedit shows them. -- Best regards, Maxim Ganetsky mailto:gan...@narod.ru -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files
Hello, I have checked project inspector, and add some files to it. This time, all is good, both files are updated as needs. Other question is : is there any possibility to describe RS for PoEdit, like if it is caption on some components ? Something like this : resourcestring //Text when type of addres is Button rsButton = 'Button'; //Text in list of types rsListButton = 'Button'; ? Thanks T.E. středa 20. června 2018, 0:33:42, napsal jste: > 19.06.2018 21:07, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus пишет: >> Hello, >> >> úterý 19. června 2018, 16:14:01, napsal jste: >>> 19.06.2018 16:26, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus пишет: Hello, i was searching for, changing something and I don't understand. When I add force update po on next compile, change showed only in .cs.po (main .po was not changed). >> >>> Therefore only .cs.po was outdated. >> >> Please, what do you exactly mean by this ? (in xxx.po there is no this >> RS. This new RS was added only to xxx.cs.po but xxx.po was not changed >> and is missing this RS) > This is plain impossible. > -- > Best regards, > Maxim Ganetsky mailto:gan...@narod.ru -- S pozdravem, Tomáš Emresz mailto:tomas.emr...@strankysnadno.cz -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files
19.06.2018 21:07, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus пишет: Hello, úterý 19. června 2018, 16:14:01, napsal jste: 19.06.2018 16:26, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus пишет: Hello, i was searching for, changing something and I don't understand. When I add force update po on next compile, change showed only in .cs.po (main .po was not changed). Therefore only .cs.po was outdated. Please, what do you exactly mean by this ? (in xxx.po there is no this RS. This new RS was added only to xxx.cs.po but xxx.po was not changed and is missing this RS) This is plain impossible. -- Best regards, Maxim Ganetsky mailto:gan...@narod.ru -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files
Hello, úterý 19. června 2018, 16:14:01, napsal jste: > 19.06.2018 16:26, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus пишет: >> Hello, >> >> i was searching for, changing something and I don't understand. When I >> add force update po on next compile, change showed only in .cs.po >> (main .po was not changed). > Therefore only .cs.po was outdated. Please, what do you exactly mean by this ? (in xxx.po there is no this RS. This new RS was added only to xxx.cs.po but xxx.po was not changed and is missing this RS) >> When I add some resoucestrings to unit >> (not form), this RS is not somewhere (I also tried force update .po). > Is this unit part of project? Please check in Project Inspector. Will check this, thanks.. >> Antivir is disabled. >> >> tool updatepofiles (in other directory for test) did nothing (and >> needs admin access (drive D, user could write in this directory). > -- > Best regards, > Maxim Ganetsky mailto:gan...@narod.ru -- S pozdravem, Tomáš Emresz mailto:tomas.emr...@strankysnadno.cz -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files
19.06.2018 16:26, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus пишет: > Hello, > > i was searching for, changing something and I don't understand. When I > add force update po on next compile, change showed only in .cs.po > (main .po was not changed). Therefore only .cs.po was outdated. > When I add some resoucestrings to unit > (not form), this RS is not somewhere (I also tried force update .po). Is this unit part of project? Please check in Project Inspector. > Antivir is disabled. > > tool updatepofiles (in other directory for test) did nothing (and > needs admin access (drive D, user could write in this directory). -- Best regards, Maxim Ganetsky mailto:gan...@narod.ru -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files
Hello,
i was searching for, changing something and I don't understand. When I
add force update po on next compile, change showed only in .cs.po
(main .po was not changed). When I add some resoucestrings to unit
(not form), this RS is not somewhere (I also tried force update .po).
Antivir is disabled.
tool updatepofiles (in other directory for test) did nothing (and
needs admin access (drive D, user could write in this directory).
T.E.
úterý 19. června 2018, 14:04:29, napsal jste:
> 19.06.2018 14:55, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus пишет:
>> Hello,
>>
>> lazarus 1.8.5 (fixes)
>> Date : 2018-06-14
>> FPC: 3.0.5
>> SVN: 58067
>> i386-win32-win32/win63
>>
>> Running on Windows 10 CZ Pro.
>>
>> In some unit a have added LCLTranslator, setup i18n in project config
>> with right path, so components and resouceestrings
>> showed in po. When I add new, there is in main xxx.po file.
>>
>> Lang I switching with :
>> SetDefaultLang('','langs\');
>> in lpr on first line after begin.
>>
>> Should I say Lazarus, that there is also xxx.cs.po (next will be
>> xxx.de.po etc) files or it should detect it in this directory ?
> No, Lazarus will find all of them automatically.
> Note that Lazarus will update translations only when main .po file is
> changed (i.e. you made changes to resource strings in code). So in case
> you place to your directory outdated translation when your main .po file
> is already up to date, you should use updatepofiles tool, which will
> update it.
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim Ganetsky mailto:gan...@narod.ru
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Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files
Hello Tomáš, I used this approach several times https://github.com/alrieckert/lazarus/tree/master/examples/translation and it worked. For example here: https://github.com/zbyna/Media-Stub-Kodi-Creator/blob/2373ec4ff24bf124cb244eab07772e3cc81bee47/unit1.pas#L22 https://github.com/zbyna/Media-Stub-Kodi-Creator/blob/master/unit1.pas#L214 Zbyněk 19. 6. 2018 v 14:12, Carlos E. R. via Lazarus : >> On 2018-06-19 13:51, Maxim Ganetsky via Lazarus wrote: >> >> >> 19.06.2018 14:37, Carlos E. R. via Lazarus пишет: On 2018-06-19 13:09, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus wrote: Hello, i have done generating .po files, could translate it through PoEdit, but - when i add some RS or component, Lazarus update only main .po file, not .cs.po etc. So could Lazarus update these files too, or is there any merge tool for this ? Of course, I understand, that I must translate this string after, but this time, I sync this files manually, which is bad. Any idea ? >>> >>> I'll answer as translator, I do not yet know how Lazarus handles this. >>> >>> The programmer should only change the .pot files. >> >> Lazarus handles all this itself. Main .po file is actually is what you >> mean by .pot (historically it has .po extension instead of .pot). > > Well, IMHO that is wrong. > > The .pot file should contain all the messages without any translation, > it is the master file. And the .po files are the translations, one per > language. The .pot file is maintained by the programmers, the .po are > maintained by the translators. > > Anyway, msgmerge can handle that situation, too. > > > -- > Cheers / Saludos, > >Carlos E. R. >(from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) > > -- > ___ > Lazarus mailing list > Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org > https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files
On 2018-06-19 13:51, Maxim Ganetsky via Lazarus wrote: > > > 19.06.2018 14:37, Carlos E. R. via Lazarus пишет: >> On 2018-06-19 13:09, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> i have done generating .po files, could translate it through PoEdit, >>> but - when i add some RS or component, Lazarus update only main .po >>> file, not .cs.po etc. So could Lazarus update these files too, or is >>> there any merge tool for this ? Of course, I understand, that I must >>> translate this string after, but this time, I sync this files >>> manually, which is bad. >>> >>> Any idea ? >> >> I'll answer as translator, I do not yet know how Lazarus handles this. >> >> The programmer should only change the .pot files. > > Lazarus handles all this itself. Main .po file is actually is what you > mean by .pot (historically it has .po extension instead of .pot). Well, IMHO that is wrong. The .pot file should contain all the messages without any translation, it is the master file. And the .po files are the translations, one per language. The .pot file is maintained by the programmers, the .po are maintained by the translators. Anyway, msgmerge can handle that situation, too. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files
19.06.2018 14:55, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus пишет:
> Hello,
>
> lazarus 1.8.5 (fixes)
> Date : 2018-06-14
> FPC: 3.0.5
> SVN: 58067
> i386-win32-win32/win63
>
> Running on Windows 10 CZ Pro.
>
> In some unit a have added LCLTranslator, setup i18n in project config
> with right path, so components and resouceestrings
> showed in po. When I add new, there is in main xxx.po file.
>
> Lang I switching with :
> SetDefaultLang('','langs\');
> in lpr on first line after begin.
>
> Should I say Lazarus, that there is also xxx.cs.po (next will be
> xxx.de.po etc) files or it should detect it in this directory ?
No, Lazarus will find all of them automatically.
Note that Lazarus will update translations only when main .po file is
changed (i.e. you made changes to resource strings in code). So in case
you place to your directory outdated translation when your main .po file
is already up to date, you should use updatepofiles tool, which will
update it.
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Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files
Hello,
lazarus 1.8.5 (fixes)
Date : 2018-06-14
FPC: 3.0.5
SVN: 58067
i386-win32-win32/win63
Running on Windows 10 CZ Pro.
In some unit a have added LCLTranslator, setup i18n in project config
with right path, so components and resouceestrings
showed in po. When I add new, there is in main xxx.po file.
Lang I switching with :
SetDefaultLang('','langs\');
in lpr on first line after begin.
Should I say Lazarus, that there is also xxx.cs.po (next will be
xxx.de.po etc) files or it should detect it in this directory ?
Many thanks
T.E.
úterý 19. června 2018, 13:45:53, napsal jste:
> 19.06.2018 14:09, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus пишет:
>> Hello,
>>
>> i have done generating .po files, could translate it through PoEdit,
>> but - when i add some RS or component, Lazarus update only main .po
>> file, not .cs.po etc. So could Lazarus update these files too, or is
>> there any merge tool for this ? Of course, I understand, that I must
>> translate this string after, but this time, I sync this files
>> manually, which is bad.
>>
>> Any idea ?
> Which Lazarus version, OS?
> Lazarus does update translations together with main .po file. Make sure
> that your antivirus does not block writing to them (look at dates/times
> of translation files, if e.g. the half of them have the same date/time
> after update and the others not, this is antivirus).
> Note that you can sync translations with main .po file manually using
> \tools\updatepofiles tool:
> updatepofiles mainpofile.po
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim Ganetsky mailto:gan...@narod.ru
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Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files
19.06.2018 14:37, Carlos E. R. via Lazarus пишет: > On 2018-06-19 13:09, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus wrote: >> Hello, >> >> i have done generating .po files, could translate it through PoEdit, >> but - when i add some RS or component, Lazarus update only main .po >> file, not .cs.po etc. So could Lazarus update these files too, or is >> there any merge tool for this ? Of course, I understand, that I must >> translate this string after, but this time, I sync this files >> manually, which is bad. >> >> Any idea ? > > I'll answer as translator, I do not yet know how Lazarus handles this. > > The programmer should only change the .pot files. Lazarus handles all this itself. Main .po file is actually is what you mean by .pot (historically it has .po extension instead of .pot). -- Best regards, Maxim Ganetsky mailto:gan...@narod.ru -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files
19.06.2018 14:09, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus пишет: > Hello, > > i have done generating .po files, could translate it through PoEdit, > but - when i add some RS or component, Lazarus update only main .po > file, not .cs.po etc. So could Lazarus update these files too, or is > there any merge tool for this ? Of course, I understand, that I must > translate this string after, but this time, I sync this files > manually, which is bad. > > Any idea ? Which Lazarus version, OS? Lazarus does update translations together with main .po file. Make sure that your antivirus does not block writing to them (look at dates/times of translation files, if e.g. the half of them have the same date/time after update and the others not, this is antivirus). Note that you can sync translations with main .po file manually using \tools\updatepofiles tool: updatepofiles mainpofile.po -- Best regards, Maxim Ganetsky mailto:gan...@narod.ru -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files
Hello,
thanks for long answer, but - Lazarus generate only .po file ( and
.lrs in output directory). There is no .pot file.
T.E.
úterý 19. června 2018, 13:37:14, napsal jste:
> On 2018-06-19 13:09, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> i have done generating .po files, could translate it through PoEdit,
>> but - when i add some RS or component, Lazarus update only main .po
>> file, not .cs.po etc. So could Lazarus update these files too, or is
>> there any merge tool for this ? Of course, I understand, that I must
>> translate this string after, but this time, I sync this files
>> manually, which is bad.
>>
>> Any idea ?
> I'll answer as translator, I do not yet know how Lazarus handles this.
> The programmer should only change the .pot files.
> There are other tools that propagate the changes in the .pot to the
> .po files, which can be used by the programmer (in the Makefile) or
> the translators, using "msgmerge".
> For example, a translator could do:
> msgmerge --previous --no-wrap --force-po \
> -U $POFILE -C ../memory.es.po $POTFILE
> msgfmt --check --stat $POFILE
> rm messages.mo
> The translator has access to previous translations and memory files
> to do fuzzy automatic translations which you probably as programmer can't.
> The programmer could do:
> msgmerge --previous --no-wrap --force-po -U $POFILE $POTFILE
> msgfmt --check --stat $POFILE
> rm messages.mo
> Notice the missing memory file
> (and repeat for each language)
> A sample script as programmer, for all languages:
> #!/bin/bash
> for FILES in `ls *.po` ;
> do
> echo
> echo $FILES
> "-"
> echo
> F=`basename $FILES .po`
> FF=`basename $F .es`
> POFILE=$FF.es.po
> POTFILE=../../00-pot/$FF.pot
> if test -f $POFILE -a -f $POTFILE; then
> echo Applying msgmerge to $POFILE
> msgmerge --previous --no-wrap --force-po -U $POFILE $POTFILE
> msgfmt --check --stat $POFILE
> rm messages.mo
> else
> echo "Not found: " $POFILE or $POTFILE
> fi || { echo "msgmerge --no-wrap --force-po for \"$POTFILE\" failed" ; }
> done
> Of course, you'd have to adapt paths to your situation.
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