Re: [Lazarus] Project Options dialog

2013-02-03 Thread leledumbo
I'd rather have those options appear when the target platform combobox
changes



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Re: [Lazarus] Buttons in frames

2013-02-03 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd

Mattias Gaertner wrote:


1. Why should the compiler report a wrong path?
That's not quite what I said. You pointed out that the IDE was 
converting the relative path to an absolute one which is what the 
compiler sees, the compiler reports an absolute path in any error 
message, and by the time it sees that the IDE's forgotten that it's 
already got the file open.


Sorry. You lost me.


Well, I obviously accept that I'm Doing It Wrong, and that having 
symlinked directories in the search path is ill-advised (which to my 
mind is unfortunate). I honestly don't want to bang on about this to the 
extent that I appear boorish, but I'll try once more in the interest of 
highlighting something which I think is a problem.


The project file is /usr/local/src/heavywethers/trunk/heavywethers.lpi 
and the program file is in the same directory. One of the files it's 
referencing is dbconfig2.pas (internal name DbConfigCode2), which is in 
the absolute directory /usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk accessed via a 
symlinked directory and the project's Other unit files setting as 
./inifiles/trunk.


If I force an error into this file and force all files to be saved, when 
I run the compilation I see


[TCompiler.Compile] CmdLine=/usr/local/bin/ppc386-2.6.0  -MObjFPC 
-Scagi -O1 -g -gl -vewnhi -Se3 -Fi/usr/local/share/lazarus-trunk/ide 
-Fl/opt/gnome/lib -Fu/usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk

..
Compiling HeavyWethers.lpr
Compiling /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas

but I now have two tabbed panes in my source editor: DbConfigCode2 and 
DbConfigCode2(2) with the latter focussed. If I fix the error on the 
focussed pane, force save-all, and hit compile I get an immediate 
dialogue Some files have changed on disk: 
/usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas. I can fix that by 
selecting Reload from disk *provided* that I've done manual saves 
after every change, If I don't force the saves then the most recent 
edits might be lost.


The second tabbed pane should not, to my mind, be opened: the file 
already exists on the screen, and the only reason that the IDE thinks 
it's not is that it's not kept track of the fact that it's canonicalised 
the path when it passed it to the compiler. Also the dialogue should not 
pop up: all changes have already been flushed to disk but the IDE hasn't 
adequately realised that.


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Re: [Lazarus] Project Options dialog

2013-02-03 Thread Reinier Olislagers
On 3-2-2013 9:23, leledumbo wrote:
 I'd rather have those options appear when the target platform combobox
 changes
 
I would prefer Howard's idea - having all options visible means you can
set them for any other platform in one go...

But it's all subjective.

... and as far as we're talking about this, having some tooltips/hints
that explain a bit more what the settings do would be nice...




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Re: [Lazarus] Buttons in frames

2013-02-03 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 10:42:33 +
Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:

 Mattias Gaertner wrote:
 
  1. Why should the compiler report a wrong path?
  That's not quite what I said. You pointed out that the IDE was 
  converting the relative path to an absolute one which is what the 
  compiler sees, the compiler reports an absolute path in any error 
  message, and by the time it sees that the IDE's forgotten that it's 
  already got the file open.
  
  Sorry. You lost me.
 
 Well, I obviously accept that I'm Doing It Wrong, and that having 
 symlinked directories in the search path is ill-advised (which to my 
 mind is unfortunate).

Many people use symlinked directories without problems.


 I honestly don't want to bang on about this to the 
 extent that I appear boorish, but I'll try once more in the interest of 
 highlighting something which I think is a problem.
 
 The project file is /usr/local/src/heavywethers/trunk/heavywethers.lpi 
 and the program file is in the same directory. One of the files it's 
 referencing is dbconfig2.pas (internal name DbConfigCode2), which is in 
 the absolute directory /usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk accessed via a 
 symlinked directory and the project's Other unit files setting as 
 ./inifiles/trunk.

I guess you mean ../inifiles/trunk, which resolves
to /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/.

To avoid misunderstanding: When I'm talking about absolute filename I
meant everything that starts with a /. No matter if a part contains a
symlink or mount point.

The project (i.e. IDE and compiler)
uses /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfig2.pas.

 
 If I force an error into this file and force all files to be saved, when 
 I run the compilation I see
 
 [TCompiler.Compile] CmdLine=/usr/local/bin/ppc386-2.6.0  -MObjFPC 
 -Scagi -O1 -g -gl -vewnhi -Se3 -Fi/usr/local/share/lazarus-trunk/ide 
 -Fl/opt/gnome/lib -Fu/usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk
 ..
 Compiling HeavyWethers.lpr
 Compiling /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas

Good.

 
 but I now have two tabbed panes in my source editor: DbConfigCode2 and 
 DbConfigCode2(2) with the latter focussed.

And that's where you loose me. 
Why should /usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas be open in
the editor? From the project's point of view it is an unrelated file.


 If I fix the error on the 
 focussed pane, force save-all, and hit compile I get an immediate 
 dialogue Some files have changed on disk: 
 /usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas. I can fix that by 
 selecting Reload from disk *provided* that I've done manual saves 
 after every change, If I don't force the saves then the most recent 
 edits might be lost.

Well, with some work it is possible to find out if two symlinked files are the 
same under Unix and improve the messages.
It is not possible in general to find duplicates. For example with
network shares or special file systems.

 
 The second tabbed pane should not, to my mind, be opened: the file 
 already exists on the screen, and the only reason that the IDE thinks 
 it's not is that it's not kept track of the fact that it's canonicalised 
 the path when it passed it to the compiler. Also the dialogue should not 
 pop up: all changes have already been flushed to disk but the IDE hasn't 
 adequately realised that.

It must pop up the file given by the compiler. That is the one in the
project and is therefore parsed with the project settings, the other
is not. The two files share only sectors on the disk.

As I wrote:
You can use linked directories, but within a project you can use
only one of them.

Mattias
 

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Re: [Lazarus] AlignControls

2013-02-03 Thread Juha Manninen
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Mattias Gaertner
nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote:
 Well, your AlignControls should move them anyway, so that would be sufficient.

Thanks Mattias, I got it working.


 You can set
 Child.ControlStyle:=Child.ControlStyle+[csDesignFixedBounds];

This had no effect in my tests. The control could still be moved.

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[Lazarus] Control Notification bug?

2013-02-03 Thread Juha Manninen
My new TCoolBar component uses overridden notification:

  procedure Notification(AComponent: TComponent; Operation:
TOperation); override;

When Operation is opInsert, it adds a band and associates the new
control with it.
It works as expected when a control is dropped on a CoolBar.
However, CoolBar is notified also when a control is dropped anywhere
on the same form. I believe it is a bug, it should not happen.

I solved the problem by checking if the control's parent = Self.

Juha

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Re: [Lazarus] Buttons in frames

2013-02-03 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd

Mattias Gaertner wrote:

[TCompiler.Compile] CmdLine=/usr/local/bin/ppc386-2.6.0  -MObjFPC 
-Scagi -O1 -g -gl -vewnhi -Se3 -Fi/usr/local/share/lazarus-trunk/ide 
-Fl/opt/gnome/lib -Fu/usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk

..
Compiling HeavyWethers.lpr
Compiling /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas


Good.

 
but I now have two tabbed panes in my source editor: DbConfigCode2 and 
DbConfigCode2(2) with the latter focussed.


And that's where you loose me. 
Why should /usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas be open in

the editor? From the project's point of view it is an unrelated file.


You tell me! But the IDE opens a new tab/pane, and that's the whole 
point I'm trying to make!



As I wrote:
You can use linked directories, but within a project you can use
only one of them.


I'm trying to, dagnabbit! :-)

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Re: [Lazarus] Control Notification bug?

2013-02-03 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 13:32:09 +0200
Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com wrote:

 My new TCoolBar component uses overridden notification:
 
   procedure Notification(AComponent: TComponent; Operation:
 TOperation); override;
 
 When Operation is opInsert, it adds a band and associates the new
 control with it.
 It works as expected when a control is dropped on a CoolBar.
 However, CoolBar is notified also when a control is dropped anywhere
 on the same form. I believe it is a bug, it should not happen.

No. The Notification is inherited from TComponent. So, it's about
Owner, not about TControl.Parent. Most controls are owned by the form.

 
 I solved the problem by checking if the control's parent = Self.

Good.

Mattias

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Re: [Lazarus] AlignControls

2013-02-03 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 13:17:22 +0200
Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Mattias Gaertner
 nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote:
  Well, your AlignControls should move them anyway, so that would be 
  sufficient.
 
 Thanks Mattias, I got it working.
 
 
  You can set
  Child.ControlStyle:=Child.ControlStyle+[csDesignFixedBounds];
 
 This had no effect in my tests. The control could still be moved.

Fixed.

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Re: [Lazarus] Extract LazFreeType from LazUtils

2013-02-03 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 14:19:14 +1100
Alexander Klenin kle...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have recently applied several patches to LazFreeType.
 Why looking over it, I wonder -- why is it part of LazUtils as opposed
 to a separate package?
 Note that LazUtils is very basic package -- even LCLBase depends on it.
 I propose to move LazFreeType to a separate package.

What units belong to it?

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Re: [Lazarus] Control Notification bug?

2013-02-03 Thread Juha Manninen
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Mattias Gaertner
nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote:
 On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 13:32:09 +0200
 Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com wrote:
 No. The Notification is inherited from TComponent. So, it's about
 Owner, not about TControl.Parent. Most controls are owned by the form.

Ok.

 I solved the problem by checking if the control's parent = Self.

 Good.

In fact the control does not have parent or even name when
Notification is called.
Apparently the control is still under construction. If I set its
properties there, it leads to a crash.
I solved it by using OnIdle handler. Notification sets FNewControl and
registers the handler which looks like this :

procedure TCustomCoolBar.OnIdle(Sender: TObject; var Done: Boolean);
var
  Band: TCoolBand;
begin
  Assert(Assigned(FNewControl) and Assigned(FNewControl.Parent),
'TCoolBar.OnIdle: FNewControl or FNewControl.Parent not assigned');
  DebugLn(['TCoolBar.OnIdle, Control.Name=', FNewControl.Name]);
  if FNewControl.Parent = Self then
  begin
Band := FBands.Add;
Band.Control := FNewControl;
FNewControl := Nil;
  end;
  Application.RemoveOnIdleHandler(@OnIdle);
end;


It seems to work but may not be the cleanest way to do it.
Comments ?

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Re: [Lazarus] Buttons in frames

2013-02-03 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 11:37:03 +
Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:

 Mattias Gaertner wrote:
 
  [TCompiler.Compile] CmdLine=/usr/local/bin/ppc386-2.6.0  -MObjFPC 
  -Scagi -O1 -g -gl -vewnhi -Se3 -Fi/usr/local/share/lazarus-trunk/ide 
  -Fl/opt/gnome/lib -Fu/usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk
  ..
  Compiling HeavyWethers.lpr
  Compiling /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas
  
  Good.
  
   
  but I now have two tabbed panes in my source editor: DbConfigCode2 and 
  DbConfigCode2(2) with the latter focussed.
  
  And that's where you loose me. 
  Why should /usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas be open in
  the editor? From the project's point of view it is an unrelated file.
 
 You tell me! But the IDE opens a new tab/pane, and that's the whole 
 point I'm trying to make!

Sorry. 
The IDE does not resolve symlinks in paths. That means if the IDE
opens a wrong file, then it does so, even if the two directories were
copies instead of symlinks. Your talk about a problem with symlinks
mislead me.

So, let's forget the symlinks and find out why the IDE opens the wrong
file.

Please confirm:
The messages window shows an error on the file
/usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas
but the source editor opens the file
/usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas
Right?

 
  As I wrote:
  You can use linked directories, but within a project you can use
  only one of them.
 
 I'm trying to, dagnabbit! :-)
 

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Re: [Lazarus] Control Notification bug?

2013-02-03 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 13:58:42 +0200
Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com wrote:

[...]
 In fact the control does not have parent or even name when
 Notification is called.
 Apparently the control is still under construction. If I set its
 properties there, it leads to a crash.
 I solved it by using OnIdle handler. Notification sets FNewControl and
 registers the handler which looks like this :
 
 procedure TCustomCoolBar.OnIdle(Sender: TObject; var Done: Boolean);
 var
   Band: TCoolBand;
 begin
   Assert(Assigned(FNewControl) and Assigned(FNewControl.Parent),
 'TCoolBar.OnIdle: FNewControl or FNewControl.Parent not assigned');
   DebugLn(['TCoolBar.OnIdle, Control.Name=', FNewControl.Name]);
   if FNewControl.Parent = Self then
   begin
 Band := FBands.Add;
 Band.Control := FNewControl;
 FNewControl := Nil;
   end;
   Application.RemoveOnIdleHandler(@OnIdle);
 end;
 
 
 It seems to work but may not be the cleanest way to do it.

Not to be the cleanest way lol
It's a dirty hack. Even an QueueAsyncCall would be better.

 Comments ?

Why not override InsertControl and RemoveControl?

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Re: [Lazarus] Extract LazFreeType from LazUtils

2013-02-03 Thread Alexander Klenin
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Mattias Gaertner
nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote:
 On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 14:19:14 +1100
 Alexander Klenin kle...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have recently applied several patches to LazFreeType.
 Why looking over it, I wonder -- why is it part of LazUtils as opposed
 to a separate package?
 Note that LazUtils is very basic package -- even LCLBase depends on it.
 I propose to move LazFreeType to a separate package.

 What units belong to it?


lazfreetype.pas
lazfreetypefontcollection.pas
ttcache.pas
ttcalc.pas
ttcalc1.inc
ttcalc2.inc
ttcalc3.inc
ttcalc4.inc
ttcmap.pas
ttconfig.inc
ttdebug.pas
tterror.pas
ttfile.pas
ttgload.pas
ttinterp.pas
ttload.pas
ttmemory.pas
ttobjs.pas
ttprofile.pas
ttraster.pas
ttraster_sweep.inc
tttables.pas
tttypes.pas

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Re: [Lazarus] Extract LazFreeType from LazUtils

2013-02-03 Thread Alexander Klenin
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Alexander Klenin kle...@gmail.com wrote:
 I propose to move LazFreeType to a separate package.

 What units belong to it?


 lazfreetype.pas
 lazfreetypefontcollection.pas
 ttcache.pas
 ttcalc.pas
 ttcalc1.inc
 ttcalc2.inc
 ttcalc3.inc
 ttcalc4.inc
 ttcmap.pas
 ttconfig.inc
 ttdebug.pas
 tterror.pas
 ttfile.pas
 ttgload.pas
 ttinterp.pas
 ttload.pas
 ttmemory.pas
 ttobjs.pas
 ttprofile.pas
 ttraster.pas
 ttraster_sweep.inc
 tttables.pas
 tttypes.pas

... and I forgot easylazfreetype.pas,
which IMHO is not optimal name for a main unit :)

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Re: [Lazarus] Extract LazFreeType from LazUtils

2013-02-03 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 23:42:08 +1100
Alexander Klenin kle...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Mattias Gaertner
 nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote:
  On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 14:19:14 +1100
  Alexander Klenin kle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I have recently applied several patches to LazFreeType.
  Why looking over it, I wonder -- why is it part of LazUtils as opposed
  to a separate package?
  Note that LazUtils is very basic package -- even LCLBase depends on it.
  I propose to move LazFreeType to a separate package.
 
 lazfreetype.pas
 lazfreetypefontcollection.pas
 ttcache.pas
 ttcalc.pas
 ttcalc1.inc
 ttcalc2.inc
 ttcalc3.inc
 ttcalc4.inc
 ttcmap.pas
 ttconfig.inc
 ttdebug.pas
 tterror.pas
 ttfile.pas
 ttgload.pas
 ttinterp.pas
 ttload.pas
 ttmemory.pas
 ttobjs.pas
 ttprofile.pas
 ttraster.pas
 ttraster_sweep.inc
 tttables.pas
 tttypes.pas

+1

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Re: [Lazarus] Control Notification bug?

2013-02-03 Thread Juha Manninen
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Mattias Gaertner
nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote:
 Why not override InsertControl and RemoveControl?

Because I didn't realize those methods existed. :)
I will try them next ...

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Re: [Lazarus] Buttons in frames

2013-02-03 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd

Mattias Gaertner wrote:

but I now have two tabbed panes in my source editor: DbConfigCode2 and 
DbConfigCode2(2) with the latter focussed.
And that's where you loose me. 
Why should /usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas be open in

the editor? From the project's point of view it is an unrelated file.
You tell me! But the IDE opens a new tab/pane, and that's the whole 
point I'm trying to make!


Sorry. 
The IDE does not resolve symlinks in paths. That means if the IDE

opens a wrong file, then it does so, even if the two directories were
copies instead of symlinks. Your talk about a problem with symlinks
mislead me.


Don't worry, it was some while before I started focusing on what the 
real problem was.


To add context for the error message, the error I've forced in looks like

-8-
typeTDbConfigInit= procedure(confFrame: TDbConfigFrame; init: 
boolean= true);
TDbConfigRead= function(confFrame: TDbConfigFrame; mr: 
TModalResult): boolean;


ty pe   // Line 22

  { TDbConfigFrame }

  TDbConfigFrame = class(TFrame)
-8-


So, let's forget the symlinks and find out why the IDE opens the wrong
file.

Please confirm:
The messages window shows an error on the file
/usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas


/usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas(22,4) 
Fatal: Syntax error, = expected but identifier PE found



but the source editor opens the file
/usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas
Right?


I think so, or at the very least it opens a new tab/pane so that I've 
now got tabs labeled DbConfigCode2 and DbConfigCode2(2). 
Information about the IDE tells me


Project.SomethingModified Session

Project units:
./../inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas SessionModified
Project units:
./../inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode.pas SessionModified

which based on the project directory being 
/usr/local/src/heavywethers/trunk implies 
/usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas (I'm trying to be 
cautious jumping to conclusions here).


Source - Unit Information - General on the new DbConfigCode2(2) tab 
tells me /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas 
[manual transcript] which is what the file should be. ... Unit paths 
refers to /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk which is OK. Source 
paths ditto.


But Source - Unit Information - General on the original DbConfigCode2 
tab tells me it's /usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas which 
is wrong.


I need to be very cautious about jumping to any conclusions over this 
(having already been wrong once), but it looks as though the compiler is 
getting and reporting the right path


Compiling /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas

but the IDE at some earlier stage has resolved it to 
/usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas which it shouldn't. That 
actually fits my experience that given that sort of duplicate tab it's 
safer to close the older one.


If I close the older tab/pane, save-all and terminate then restart, the 
one tab that's displayed relating to that file has the correct name 
/usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas.


I think it's worth noting that since I updated this copy of the IDE etc. 
to trunk (i.e. rather than it being a couple of weeks old) I'm seeing 
additional startup warnings


FindMissingClass DbConfigFrame1:TDbConfigFrame IsInherited=False
TLazSourceFileManager.LoadLFM loading nested class TDbConfigFrame needed 
by /usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode.pas


However I think that's something to do with the non-working OnClick 
which I'll get back to presently, this business with tab/pane 
duplication is at least a few weeks old.


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Re: [Lazarus] Buttons in frames

2013-02-03 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 13:13:21 +
Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:

 Mattias Gaertner wrote:
 
  but I now have two tabbed panes in my source editor: DbConfigCode2 and 
  DbConfigCode2(2) with the latter focussed.
  And that's where you loose me. 
  Why should /usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas be open in
  the editor? From the project's point of view it is an unrelated file.
  You tell me! But the IDE opens a new tab/pane, and that's the whole 
  point I'm trying to make!
  
  Sorry. 
  The IDE does not resolve symlinks in paths. That means if the IDE
  opens a wrong file, then it does so, even if the two directories were
  copies instead of symlinks. Your talk about a problem with symlinks
  mislead me.
 
 Don't worry, it was some while before I started focusing on what the 
 real problem was.
 
 To add context for the error message, the error I've forced in looks like
 
 -8-
 typeTDbConfigInit= procedure(confFrame: TDbConfigFrame; init: 
 boolean= true);
  TDbConfigRead= function(confFrame: TDbConfigFrame; mr: 
 TModalResult): boolean;
 
 ty pe // Line 22
 
{ TDbConfigFrame }
 
TDbConfigFrame = class(TFrame)
 -8-
 
  So, let's forget the symlinks and find out why the IDE opens the wrong
  file.
  
  Please confirm:
  The messages window shows an error on the file
  /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas
 
 /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas(22,4) 
 Fatal: Syntax error, = expected but identifier PE found
 
  but the source editor opens the file
  /usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas
  Right?
 
 I think so, or at the very least it opens a new tab/pane so that I've 
 now got tabs labeled DbConfigCode2 and DbConfigCode2(2). 
 Information about the IDE tells me
 
 Project.SomethingModified Session
 
 Project units:
 ./../inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas SessionModified

Is this ../../ or really ./../ ?

 Project units:
 ./../inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode.pas SessionModified
 
 which based on the project directory being 
 /usr/local/src/heavywethers/trunk implies 
 /usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas (I'm trying to be 
 cautious jumping to conclusions here).

see above.

 
 Source - Unit Information - General on the new DbConfigCode2(2) tab 
 tells me /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas 
 [manual transcript] which is what the file should be.

ok

 ... Unit paths 
 refers to /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk which is OK. Source 
 paths ditto.

ok

 
 But Source - Unit Information - General on the original DbConfigCode2 
 tab tells me it's /usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas which 
 is wrong.

What is this original? When is it opened?
In my former mails I assumed you had opened it yourself.

 
 I need to be very cautious about jumping to any conclusions over this 
 (having already been wrong once), but it looks as though the compiler is 
 getting and reporting the right path
 
 Compiling /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas

yes.

 
 but the IDE at some earlier stage has resolved it to 
 /usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas which it shouldn't. 

What is this some earlier stage?


 That 
 actually fits my experience that given that sort of duplicate tab it's 
 safer to close the older one.
 
 If I close the older tab/pane, save-all and terminate then restart, the 
 one tab that's displayed relating to that file has the correct name 
 /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas.

All tabs are named uniquely. If you open two units with the same name
one will get the (2) appended. The (2) vanishes when the name
becomes unique again.

 
 I think it's worth noting that since I updated this copy of the IDE etc. 
 to trunk (i.e. rather than it being a couple of weeks old) I'm seeing 
 additional startup warnings
 
 FindMissingClass DbConfigFrame1:TDbConfigFrame IsInherited=False
 TLazSourceFileManager.LoadLFM loading nested class TDbConfigFrame needed 
 by /usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode.pas

It simply means: This form is opened and needs some frame of another
unit.

 
 However I think that's something to do with the non-working OnClick 
 which I'll get back to presently, this business with tab/pane 
 duplication is at least a few weeks old.


Mattias
 

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Re: [Lazarus] Buttons in frames

2013-02-03 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd

Mattias Gaertner wrote:

On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 13:13:21 +
Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:


Mattias Gaertner wrote:

but I now have two tabbed panes in my source editor: DbConfigCode2 and 
DbConfigCode2(2) with the latter focussed.
And that's where you loose me. 
Why should /usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas be open in

the editor? From the project's point of view it is an unrelated file.
You tell me! But the IDE opens a new tab/pane, and that's the whole 
point I'm trying to make!
Sorry. 
The IDE does not resolve symlinks in paths. That means if the IDE

opens a wrong file, then it does so, even if the two directories were
copies instead of symlinks. Your talk about a problem with symlinks
mislead me.
Don't worry, it was some while before I started focusing on what the 
real problem was.


To add context for the error message, the error I've forced in looks like

-8-
typeTDbConfigInit= procedure(confFrame: TDbConfigFrame; init: 
boolean= true);
 TDbConfigRead= function(confFrame: TDbConfigFrame; mr: 
TModalResult): boolean;


ty pe   // Line 22

   { TDbConfigFrame }

   TDbConfigFrame = class(TFrame)
-8-


So, let's forget the symlinks and find out why the IDE opens the wrong
file.

Please confirm:
The messages window shows an error on the file
/usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas
/usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas(22,4) 
Fatal: Syntax error, = expected but identifier PE found



but the source editor opens the file
/usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas
Right?
I think so, or at the very least it opens a new tab/pane so that I've 
now got tabs labeled DbConfigCode2 and DbConfigCode2(2). 
Information about the IDE tells me


Project.SomethingModified Session

Project units:
./../inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas SessionModified


Is this ../../ or really ./../ ?


I'm pretty sure that was ../../ but the cut or paste operation was 
trimming it. However I think we've got a Heisenbug here: Information 
about the IDE - Modified is now displaying


SourceEditorManager.SomethingModified

Source Editor:
  /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas 
Component=True


and the IDE now doesn't open a duplicate tab/pane when the compiler 
complains about the error. I think what's happened is that my action of 
restarting the IDE with the file closed has sorted things out. In other 
words this lot is still approximately valid...



Project units:
./../inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode.pas SessionModified

which based on the project directory being 
/usr/local/src/heavywethers/trunk implies 
/usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas (I'm trying to be 
cautious jumping to conclusions here).


see above.

 
Source - Unit Information - General on the new DbConfigCode2(2) tab 
tells me /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas 
[manual transcript] which is what the file should be.


ok

... Unit paths 
refers to /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk which is OK. Source 
paths ditto.


ok

 
But Source - Unit Information - General on the original DbConfigCode2 
tab tells me it's /usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas which 
is wrong.


What is this original? When is it opened?
In my former mails I assumed you had opened it yourself.


dbconfigcode2 is the name on the tab created when the IDE (at startup) 
read the project. I was assuming that dbconfigcode2(2) was the one that 
the IDE created when the compiler reported the error, but looking at the 
file paths I'm not entirely sure.


I need to be very cautious about jumping to any conclusions over this 
(having already been wrong once), but it looks as though the compiler is 
getting and reporting the right path


Compiling /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas


yes.

 
but the IDE at some earlier stage has resolved it to 
/usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas which it shouldn't. 


What is this some earlier stage?


When the IDE was opening the project.

That 
actually fits my experience that given that sort of duplicate tab it's 
safer to close the older one.


If I close the older tab/pane, save-all and terminate then restart, the 
one tab that's displayed relating to that file has the correct name 
/usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas.


..up to this point where I've just done something that makes the 
problem go away.



All tabs are named uniquely. If you open two units with the same name
one will get the (2) appended. The (2) vanishes when the name
becomes unique again.


Yes, but which tab gets the suffix: the one that already exists or the 
newly-created duplicate?


I think it's worth noting that since I updated this copy of the IDE etc. 
to trunk (i.e. rather than it being a couple of weeks old) I'm seeing 
additional startup warnings


FindMissingClass DbConfigFrame1:TDbConfigFrame IsInherited=False
TLazSourceFileManager.LoadLFM 

Re: [Lazarus] Extract LazFreeType from LazUtils

2013-02-03 Thread silvioprog
2013/2/3 Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de

 On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 23:42:08 +1100
 Alexander Klenin kle...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Mattias Gaertner
  nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote:
   On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 14:19:14 +1100
   Alexander Klenin kle...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   I have recently applied several patches to LazFreeType.
   Why looking over it, I wonder -- why is it part of LazUtils as opposed
   to a separate package?
   Note that LazUtils is very basic package -- even LCLBase depends on
 it.
   I propose to move LazFreeType to a separate package.
 
  lazfreetype.pas
  lazfreetypefontcollection.pas
  ttcache.pas
  ttcalc.pas
  ttcalc1.inc
  ttcalc2.inc
  ttcalc3.inc
  ttcalc4.inc
  ttcmap.pas
  ttconfig.inc
  ttdebug.pas
  tterror.pas
  ttfile.pas
  ttgload.pas
  ttinterp.pas
  ttload.pas
  ttmemory.pas
  ttobjs.pas
  ttprofile.pas
  ttraster.pas
  ttraster_sweep.inc
  tttables.pas
  tttypes.pas

 +1

 Mattias


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Re: [Lazarus] Buttons in frames

2013-02-03 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 15:14:45 +
Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:

[...]
 SourceEditorManager.SomethingModified
 
 Source Editor:
/usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas 
 Component=True
 
 and the IDE now doesn't open a duplicate tab/pane when the compiler 
 complains about the error. I think what's happened is that my action of 
 restarting the IDE with the file closed has sorted things out. In other 
 words this lot is still approximately valid...
 
  Project units:
  ./../inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode.pas SessionModified
 
  which based on the project directory being 
  /usr/local/src/heavywethers/trunk implies 
  /usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas (I'm trying to be 
  cautious jumping to conclusions here).
  
  see above.
  
   
  Source - Unit Information - General on the new DbConfigCode2(2) tab 
  tells me /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas 
  [manual transcript] which is what the file should be.
  
  ok
  
  ... Unit paths 
  refers to /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk which is OK. Source 
  paths ditto.
  
  ok
  
   
  But Source - Unit Information - General on the original DbConfigCode2 
  tab tells me it's /usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas which 
  is wrong.
  
  What is this original? When is it opened?
  In my former mails I assumed you had opened it yourself.
 
 dbconfigcode2 is the name on the tab created when the IDE (at startup) 
 read the project. I was assuming that dbconfigcode2(2) was the one that 
 the IDE created when the compiler reported the error, but looking at the 
 file paths I'm not entirely sure.

Reading the project simply restores the files last time open. That does
not count. Question still open: When was the wrong file opened?

 
  I need to be very cautious about jumping to any conclusions over this 
  (having already been wrong once), but it looks as though the compiler is 
  getting and reporting the right path
 
  Compiling /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas
  
  yes.
  
   
  but the IDE at some earlier stage has resolved it to 
  /usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas which it shouldn't. 
  
  What is this some earlier stage?
 
 When the IDE was opening the project.

See above.

 
  That 
  actually fits my experience that given that sort of duplicate tab it's 
  safer to close the older one.
 
  If I close the older tab/pane, save-all and terminate then restart, the 
  one tab that's displayed relating to that file has the correct name 
  /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas.
 
 ..up to this point where I've just done something that makes the 
 problem go away.
 
  All tabs are named uniquely. If you open two units with the same name
  one will get the (2) appended. The (2) vanishes when the name
  becomes unique again.
 
 Yes, but which tab gets the suffix: the one that already exists or the 
 newly-created duplicate?

When a second is opened it gets the (2), the third gets (3), and so
forth. It does not matter which one is the project's one.

 
[...]
  However I think that's something to do with the non-working OnClick 
  which I'll get back to presently, this business with tab/pane 
  duplication is at least a few weeks old.
 
 So it looks as though it's something to do with the saved state of the 
 project, i.e. which files are listed as to be opened when the project is 
 loaded. The file giving the problem had been open (across multiple 
 sessions of the IDE) ever since the unit and associated frame was 
 created and saved, I can't remember exactly how I did the save (i.e. 
 whether it was an explicit save-all or an implicit save when the 
 compiler was run or the IDE shut down).

The does not matter for the session.

 
 If the compilation is run and finds an error where the file isn't 
 already open, the file is opened with the correct path and there are no 
 further problems.

Nice.

 
 Drat- it's just started happening again. The thing that appears to have 
 made the difference was telling the IDE to open the frame associated 
 with the unit, I can now see both forms of the path/name stored in the 
 .lps file:
 
Unit12
  Filename Value=../../inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas/
  IsPartOfProject Value=True/
  ComponentName Value=DbConfigFrame/
 ..
Unit15
  Filename Value=../inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas/
  ComponentName Value=DbConfigFrame/

You can see that the IDE knows that Unit12 belongs to the
project, while Unit15 is simply a file on your disk. 

About the IDE to open the frame associated with the unit.
Which file is the frame and which file is the unit?

Mattias

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Re: [Lazarus] Buttons in frames

2013-02-03 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd

Mattias Gaertner wrote:

Source - Unit Information - General on the new DbConfigCode2(2) tab 
tells me /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas 
[manual transcript] which is what the file should be.

ok

... Unit paths 
refers to /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk which is OK. Source 
paths ditto.

ok

 
But Source - Unit Information - General on the original DbConfigCode2 
tab tells me it's /usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas which 
is wrong.

What is this original? When is it opened?
In my former mails I assumed you had opened it yourself.
dbconfigcode2 is the name on the tab created when the IDE (at startup) 
read the project. I was assuming that dbconfigcode2(2) was the one that 
the IDE created when the compiler reported the error, but looking at the 
file paths I'm not entirely sure.


Reading the project simply restores the files last time open. That does
not count. Question still open: When was the wrong file opened?


It would appear either at the time the unit is first saved, or when a 
frame (possibly form) is opened that crosses an ambiguity.


I need to be very cautious about jumping to any conclusions over this 
(having already been wrong once), but it looks as though the compiler is 
getting and reporting the right path


Compiling /usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas

yes.

 
but the IDE at some earlier stage has resolved it to 
/usr/local/src/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas which it shouldn't. 

What is this some earlier stage?

When the IDE was opening the project.


See above.

 
That 
actually fits my experience that given that sort of duplicate tab it's 
safer to close the older one.


If I close the older tab/pane, save-all and terminate then restart, the 
one tab that's displayed relating to that file has the correct name 
/usr/local/src/heavywethers/inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas.
..up to this point where I've just done something that makes the 
problem go away.



All tabs are named uniquely. If you open two units with the same name
one will get the (2) appended. The (2) vanishes when the name
becomes unique again.
Yes, but which tab gets the suffix: the one that already exists or the 
newly-created duplicate?


When a second is opened it gets the (2), the third gets (3), and so
forth. It does not matter which one is the project's one.


Which fits in with the original tab (DbConfigCode2) being given the 
wrong filename by the IDE, and the new tab (DbConfigCode2(2)) getting 
the right filename from the compiler's error message.



[...]
However I think that's something to do with the non-working OnClick 
which I'll get back to presently, this business with tab/pane 
duplication is at least a few weeks old.
So it looks as though it's something to do with the saved state of the 
project, i.e. which files are listed as to be opened when the project is 
loaded. The file giving the problem had been open (across multiple 
sessions of the IDE) ever since the unit and associated frame was 
created and saved, I can't remember exactly how I did the save (i.e. 
whether it was an explicit save-all or an implicit save when the 
compiler was run or the IDE shut down).


The does not matter for the session.

 
If the compilation is run and finds an error where the file isn't 
already open, the file is opened with the correct path and there are no 
further problems.


Nice.


That's what I thought- for a while at least :-)

Drat- it's just started happening again. The thing that appears to have 
made the difference was telling the IDE to open the frame associated 
with the unit, I can now see both forms of the path/name stored in the 
.lps file:


   Unit12
 Filename Value=../../inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas/
 IsPartOfProject Value=True/
 ComponentName Value=DbConfigFrame/
..
   Unit15
 Filename Value=../inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas/
 ComponentName Value=DbConfigFrame/


You can see that the IDE knows that Unit12 belongs to the
project, while Unit15 is simply a file on your disk. 


About the IDE to open the frame associated with the unit.
Which file is the frame and which file is the unit?


If I delete the .lps file and start the IDE it seems to open 
dbconfig2.pas by default, I find this in .lpi:


  Unit12
Filename Value=..\..\inifiles\trunk\dbconfigcode2.pas/
IsPartOfProject Value=True/
ComponentName Value=DbConfigFrame/
HasResources Value=True/
ResourceBaseClass Value=Frame/
UnitName Value=DbConfigCode2/
  /Unit12

If I run the compilation (knowing there's an error in that file) and 
save-all (even without correcting it), I have DbConfigCode2 and 
DbConfigCode2(2) tabs and the new .lps includes


  Unit12
Filename Value=../../inifiles/trunk/dbconfigcode2.pas/
IsPartOfProject Value=True/
ComponentName Value=DbConfigFrame/
HasResources Value=True/
ResourceBaseClass 

Re: [Lazarus] Compiling IDE issues using FreeBSD 9.1 FPC 2.6.0

2013-02-03 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 02:39:00AM +0100, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
  'bigide' option, or one of the packages that 'bigide' pulls in has a
  compile problem under FreeBSD.
 
 Please create a bug report with the complete output of the make clean 
 bigide output.

And the dates of both fileutil.ppu's.


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Re: [Lazarus] Compiling IDE issues using FreeBSD 9.1 FPC 2.6.0

2013-02-03 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:33:27 +
Graeme Geldenhuys gra...@geldenhuys.co.uk wrote:

 [...]
 On 01/31/13 17:25, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
  
  $ gmake bigide
  ...snip...
  Compiling ctunitgroupgraph.pas
  Assembling ctunitgroupgraph
  Assembling codetools
  117099 lines compiled, 5.6 sec
  /bin/cp -f Makefile.compiled units/x86_64-freebsd/CodeTools.compiled
  gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/data/devel/lazarus/components/codetools'
  gmake -C lcl LCL_PLATFORM=nogui
  gmake[1]: Entering directory `/data/devel/lazarus/lcl'
  /bin/rm -f units/x86_64-freebsd/alllclunits.ppu
  /data/devel/fpc-2.6.0/x86_64-freebsd/bin/ppcx64 -gl
  -Fu../packager/units/x86_64-freebsd
  -Fu../components/lazutils/lib/x86_64-freebsd -Fu. -Funonwin32 -Fuforms
  -Fuwidgetset -Fiinclude -FE. -FUunits/x86_64-freebsd -Cg -dx86_64
  alllclunits.pp
  Free Pascal Compiler version 2.6.0 [2011/12/30] for x86_64
  Copyright (c) 1993-2011 by Florian Klaempfl and others
  Target OS: FreeBSD for x86-64
  Compiling alllclunits.pp
  Compiling barchart.pp
  Compiling lclproc.pas
  Compiling lclstrconsts.pas
  Writing Resource String Table file: lclstrconsts.rst
  Assembling lclstrconsts
  PPU Loading units/x86_64-freebsd/fileutil.ppu
  PPU Source: fileutil.pas not found
  PPU Source: fileutil.inc not found
  Recompiling FileUtil, checksum changed for LCLStrConsts
  fileutil.pas(42,62) Fatal: Can't find unit FileUtil used by LazLogger
  Fatal: Compilation aborted
  gmake[1]: *** [alllclunits.ppu] Error 1
  gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/data/devel/lazarus/lcl'
  gmake: *** [lazbuild] Error 2
  8-8-8-8-8
  
  Yet, if I do the following, it does seem to find the unit in the
  directory hierarchy.
  
  $ find . -name fileutil.* -print
  ./components/lazutils/fileutil.inc
  ./components/lazutils/lib/x86_64-freebsd/fileutil.ppu
  ./components/lazutils/lib/x86_64-freebsd/fileutil.o

This is ok.

  ./components/lazutils/fileutil.pas
  ./docs/xml/lazutils/fileutil.xml
  ./lcl/units/x86_64-freebsd/fileutil.ppu
  ./lcl/units/x86_64-freebsd/fileutil.o

Where is this fileutil.ppu coming from?

Maybe the gmake clean does not work under FreeBSD?

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Re: [Lazarus] Compiling IDE issues using FreeBSD 9.1 FPC 2.6.0

2013-02-03 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 11:22:10PM +0100, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
   $ find . -name fileutil.* -print
   ./components/lazutils/fileutil.inc
   ./components/lazutils/lib/x86_64-freebsd/fileutil.ppu
   ./components/lazutils/lib/x86_64-freebsd/fileutil.o
 
 This is ok.
 
   ./components/lazutils/fileutil.pas
   ./docs/xml/lazutils/fileutil.xml
   ./lcl/units/x86_64-freebsd/fileutil.ppu
   ./lcl/units/x86_64-freebsd/fileutil.o
 
 Where is this fileutil.ppu coming from?
 
 Maybe the gmake clean does not work under FreeBSD?

Are there any custom rules regarding this file, or SED use? 

Makefile operation under FreeBSD is older than fpcmake generated makefiles.

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Re: [Lazarus] Compiling IDE issues using FreeBSD 9.1 FPC 2.6.0

2013-02-03 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 23:28:45 +0100
Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl wrote:

 On Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 11:22:10PM +0100, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
$ find . -name fileutil.* -print
./components/lazutils/fileutil.inc
./components/lazutils/lib/x86_64-freebsd/fileutil.ppu
./components/lazutils/lib/x86_64-freebsd/fileutil.o
  
  This is ok.
  
./components/lazutils/fileutil.pas
./docs/xml/lazutils/fileutil.xml
./lcl/units/x86_64-freebsd/fileutil.ppu
./lcl/units/x86_64-freebsd/fileutil.o
  
  Where is this fileutil.ppu coming from?
  
  Maybe the gmake clean does not work under FreeBSD?
 
 Are there any custom rules regarding this file, or SED use? 
 
 Makefile operation under FreeBSD is older than fpcmake generated makefiles.


[clean]
# clear all .ppu/.o/.rst files in all source and output directories
files=$(wildcard $(COMPILER_UNITTARGETDIR)/*$(OEXT)) \
  $(wildcard $(COMPILER_UNITTARGETDIR)/*$(PPUEXT)) \
  $(wildcard $(COMPILER_UNITTARGETDIR)/*$(RSTEXT)) \
  $(wildcard $(COMPILER_UNITTARGETDIR)/*.lfm) \
  $(wildcard $(COMPILER_UNITTARGETDIR)/*.res) \
  $(wildcard $(COMPILER_UNITTARGETDIR)/*.compiled) \
  $(wildcard ./units/*$(OEXT)) $(wildcard ./units/*$(PPUEXT)) $(wildcard 
./units/*$(RSTEXT)) \
  $(wildcard widgetset/*$(OEXT)) $(wildcard widgetset/*$(PPUEXT)) 
$(wildcard widgetset/*$(RSTEXT))\
  $(wildcard *$(OEXT)) $(wildcard *$(PPUEXT)) $(wildcard *$(RSTEXT))


Mattias

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Re: [Lazarus] Control Notification bug?

2013-02-03 Thread Juha Manninen
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Mattias Gaertner
 nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote:
 Why not override InsertControl and RemoveControl?

 Because I didn't realize those methods existed. :)
 I will try them next ...

Done.

Juha

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