Re: [Lazarus] Package dialog ?
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Juha Manninen wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org wrote: What is the rationale for duplicating the 'Add' button in the package dialog? It solved this and many other complaints about usability : http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=24337 Ehm, 'many other complaints' ? that is just your opinion :-) The buttons as they are now are highly confusing. I preferred the old system where there was only 1 button. That was clear and intuitive. The old system was also far from intuitive. You needed at least 7 clicks to add one existing file. I don't mind 7 clicks, as long as I know where to click. What more, there was a filter which prevented adding some files, but didn't give any feedback. Hm. Strange argument. If that is a problem, just give the ability to switch filters. Not a reason to completely change the way of working ? The filter is still there in the Add Files feature. Then d'n'd was implemented and added files without using that filter. I added the button which opens a standard file open dialog and is consistent with d'n'd and shares some code with it. No problem with all this, but the main issue I am having is that the icons are VERY unclear. If you really want to add a button (I will not argue that point, clearly someone thought it was necessary), then please give them a very distinctive look. [...] True, it is not perfect. My plan is to remove the Add files in Directory feature, or to move it to the More menu. It is needed extremely seldom. The standard file open dialog lets you select many files in one directory. If you have many directories then you must repeat it which is not a problem typically. How to make it truly intuitive? I am NOT happy with the current situation either. IMHO: 0. Remove the new add (with 2 plusses) button (see below) 1. The Add stuff must be destroyed entirely (well, split into multiple dialogs). 2. Add a 'New item' button, with an icon which resembles 'new file'. It invokes the 'File|new..' dialog, but adds to the package instead of the project. 3. Duplicate the 'New item' functionality in context menu. Context menu and button bar should be in sync, IMHO. 4. Duplicate 'Add file(s)' (single plus sign) button functionality in treeview context menu. 5. Add Directory can be moved to 'more' and added to context menu. 6. Add editor file' can be moved to 'more' and added to context menu. (Personally, I've never used this functionality, but practices may differ). 7. Add a new 'Manage dependencies' button (something with a package-like icon). 8. Context menu should also have 'Manage dependencies' 9. Rework dependencies management to something more sane. Multi-select etc. The clean up dependencies should IMHO be removed, but that is a separate topic entirely. Anyway, just my proposal... Michael. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Ways of making new style design
I think about that in first place but Im worry about speed and maybe it need making control from base U think. I want to be sure before doing. Regards, Ara -- http://www.fastmail.com - mmm... Fastmail... -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Ways of making new style design
On 2015-03-24 12:52, zeljko wrote: There's no free lunch around, you have to try it. :) +1 That is why I also suggested Ara create some mockup screen using the various options available. Then decide for himself what would be the best fit in the long term. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] HEADS UP: FPC 3.0.1 stable branched off.
zeljko wrote: On 01/10/2015 02:39 PM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 12:49:04 + Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk wrote: Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Lazarus trunk at about 47318 is OK with FPC 2.7.1 29398 on SPARC using Debian Lenny, Same combination on a PPC Mac raises an exception as below when the IDE is told to Tools - Options. TApplication.HandleException Error reading ComponentsListView.Items.LazData: Stream read error Stack trace: $10118410 TREADER__READPROPERTY, line 1279 of /usr/local/src/fpc/fpc-trunk/rtl/objpas/classes/reader.inc Apart from that and the blank toolbar issue it appears OK. Does anybody want me to get a backtrace and raise a bug? TListItems.ReadLazData reads a TLazItemInfo, which is a record: TLazItemInfo = record // packing is not needed and not wanted ImageIndex: Integer; StateIndex: Integer; OverlayIndex: Integer; SubItemCount: Integer; end; Without packed the layout depends on the platform. But the stream should be streamed the same on all platforms. So it needs packed. OTOH someone added a comment that it is not wanted. Has someone an idea why packed is is not needed and not wanted? Annotate that unit and see who wrote that ? Now on Mantis as 27719. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Ways of making new style design
On 03/24/2015 01:47 PM, aradeonas wrote: I think about that in first place but Im worry about speed and maybe it need making control from base U think. I want to be sure before doing. Speed could be better than with ordinary handles, but also can be worse. There's no free lunch around, you have to try it. :) z. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Ways of making new style design
Graeme I'm working with fpGUI and also I wants to remind you for ant new screen shots. Regards, Ara -- http://www.fastmail.com - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Package dialog ?
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 13:12:49 +0200 Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com wrote: [...] The features Add Editor Files and New Requirement in Project Inspector, and New File, New Component and New Requirement in Package Editor should have buttons right next to the (new) Add button. The old Add Files tab can be moved somewhere. Then it makes sense to split the buttons into 2 rows and maybe use TCoolBar. Then the icons must be distinctive indeed. What do you think? I doubt you will find good icons. Each function needs a caption with a few words to explain what it does. Maybe use a dropdown menu like the Use button? Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Package dialog ?
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 13:12:49 +0200 Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com wrote: [...] The features Add Editor Files and New Requirement in Project Inspector, and New File, New Component and New Requirement in Package Editor should have buttons right next to the (new) Add button. The old Add Files tab can be moved somewhere. Then it makes sense to split the buttons into 2 rows and maybe use TCoolBar. Then the icons must be distinctive indeed. What do you think? I doubt you will find good icons. Each function needs a caption with a few words to explain what it does. Maybe use a dropdown menu like the Use button? The function of the button is confused. So the icon is confused :) Start by making a clear distinction in functions. (see my proposal) Michael. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Ways of making new style design
On 03/24/2015 10:56 AM, aradeonas wrote: zeljko these are like a theme for system default controls,How I can made new controls that their not like standards,like my first example link? Use BGRAControls. If you like hardcore sex then you can do whatever with eg. Qt. You can create widget or even QGraphicsItem, or just do as it is done in customdrawn widgetset. Provide only canvas and one handle (usually form). zeljko -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Package Dialog - File properties
Hi, Is there a global option to permanently hide the File Properties panel in *all* Package Dialogs? I can currently use the Splitter and drag it to the bottom, but not hide it completely. Then when I open that package dialog again, the Splitter is restored to the original position and I have to hide it manually again. :-/ Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Ways of making new style design
On 03/24/2015 09:20 AM, vfclists . wrote: On 24 March 2015 at 07:23, zeljko zel...@holobit.net mailto:zel...@holobit.net wrote: On 03/23/2015 09:35 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 2015-03-23 20:19, aradeonas wrote: I know its possible with other languages specialty web programing but how in Lazarus? The LCL (GTK2, QT, Carbon, Win32) are not designed to be customise with themes. The design goal of LCL is to look native. So install a OS wide theme - that's it. QtLCL apps can be customized out of current system theme via stylesheets. You can provide --stylesheet yourstylesheet.blah to any qtlcl application and it'll work. zeljko I need to know more about this. Are any examples available? http://doc.qt.io/qt-4.8//stylesheet-examples.html http://doc.qt.io/qt-4.8/stylesheet.html zeljko -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Ways of making new style design
zeljko these are like a theme for system default controls,How I can made new controls that their not like standards,like my first example link? Regards, Ara -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] IDE main form height not saving and loading
fpc lazarus svn on osx qt-x64 Main IDE form height, and Object inspector's top properties not saving or not reading on start IDE. Always setting default values. On 14.03.2015 16:51, FreeMan wrote: I hide component palette from main form. and move toolbar to up. decrease IDE main form height, then restart IDE, toolbars position saved, but IDE main form height not saved, view default size. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Package dialog ?
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org wrote: What is the rationale for duplicating the 'Add' button in the package dialog? It solved this and many other complaints about usability : http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=24337 The buttons as they are now are highly confusing. I preferred the old system where there was only 1 button. That was clear and intuitive. The old system was also far from intuitive. You needed at least 7 clicks to add one existing file. What more, there was a filter which prevented adding some files, but didn't give any feedback. The filter is still there in the Add Files feature. Then d'n'd was implemented and added files without using that filter. I added the button which opens a standard file open dialog and is consistent with d'n'd and shares some code with it. If you really want to add a button (I will not argue that point, clearly someone thought it was necessary), then please give them a very distinctive look. [...] True, it is not perfect. My plan is to remove the Add files in Directory feature, or to move it to the More menu. It is needed extremely seldom. The standard file open dialog lets you select many files in one directory. If you have many directories then you must repeat it which is not a problem typically. How to make it truly intuitive? I am NOT happy with the current situation either. The features Add Editor Files and New Requirement in Project Inspector, and New File, New Component and New Requirement in Package Editor should have buttons right next to the (new) Add button. The old Add Files tab can be moved somewhere. Then it makes sense to split the buttons into 2 rows and maybe use TCoolBar. Then the icons must be distinctive indeed. What do you think? On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:04 AM, zeljko zel...@holobit.net wrote: It is very unpleasant solution. Besides that with that All you can add only directory with all files and then you must delete all except that one file. With All you are adding only one file. Very confusing. Don't know why anyone changed that. That should be simple, only one dialog where Add units/files should have two buttons: Add file(s) and Add dir(all files). I guess you mean Add and Add ... buttons. The standard file open dialog has multi-select enabled. It is not only for a single file. What if you ignore the Add Files tab in the other items dialog? Pretend it does not exist. It is a little better already, right? Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Ways of making new style design
I need to know more about this. Are any examples available? And me. Ara -- http://www.fastmail.com - IMAP accessible web-mail -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] always visible cursor editor option?
What does that option actually mean and do? Unfortunately there is no help on the topic in the wiki http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/IDE_Window:_Editor_Options Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Package dialog ?
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 19:35:49 +0100 (CET) Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org wrote: On Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 17:13:10 +0100 (CET) Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org wrote: [...] If you remove the dependency A-B, then there is probably a reason for that. For example A no longer works with B. Yes, but A still depends on C. And if not? If you read the explanation carefully, you'll see that that was a given. Maybe I misunderstand you completely. You said the clean up function should be removed. That means it has no use to anyone. Right? Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Ways of making new style design
On 2015-03-24 13:10, aradeonas wrote: Graeme I'm working with fpGUI and also I wants to remind you for ant new screen shots. Here are some basic ones. As I mentioned, fpGUI includes 7 themes as standard and any fpGUI application can use them or even switch them at runtime via the --style command line parameter. The first 5 images uses standard Canvas drawing and fpGUI's Style class. I'll upload this as a new demo in fpGUI. I've also seen end-users create themes with mouse hover effects and animation too. Plus, these don't even touch the AggPas capabilities, which will make theming magnitudes better. Obviously you can also implement your own widgets or OnPaint handler, and then the sky is the limit. The last image is from a product called SnapDraw, which is 100% implemented using AggPas (rebranded as CrossGL). The installer has really funky mouse hover animations on buttons etc. Something to experience. :-) http://geldenhuys.co.uk/~graemeg/themes/ So recreating your sample screenshot as a desktop application wouldn't be a problem. It will just take some time to design and paint - just like you would have to do for the web app. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial: Animating with easings
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Re: [Lazarus] Package dialog ?
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 16:39:09 +0100 (CET) Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org wrote: [...] Why? It is a very useful feature. I don't see how. Some IDE functions added dependencies automatically, creating redundant dependencies. The clean up function allows to remedy this. IMHO it is even wrong, because I want to see explicitly all dependencies added to a package/project. Removing the clean up function will not help here. Maybe the project inspector can be extended to show indirectly used packages, so you can see all dependencies. Package A (unitA) depends on Package B (UnitA uses unitB) and Package C (UnitA uses unitC). Package B depends on Package C (unitB uses unitC). Invoking the dialog in A will propose to remove the C from the dependencies of A (transitivity). That is IMHO not wanted. If I remove the depencency on B (no longer use UnitB) then the dependency on C is lost. Hence, C must remain in the dependencies of A. If you remove the dependency A-B, then there is probably a reason for that. For example A no longer works with B. Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Package dialog ?
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 16:39:09 +0100 (CET) Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org wrote: [...] Why? It is a very useful feature. I don't see how. Some IDE functions added dependencies automatically, creating redundant dependencies. The clean up function allows to remedy this. IMHO it is even wrong, because I want to see explicitly all dependencies added to a package/project. Removing the clean up function will not help here. Maybe the project inspector can be extended to show indirectly used packages, so you can see all dependencies. See below. Package A (unitA) depends on Package B (UnitA uses unitB) and Package C (UnitA uses unitC). Package B depends on Package C (unitB uses unitC). Invoking the dialog in A will propose to remove the C from the dependencies of A (transitivity). That is IMHO not wanted. If I remove the depencency on B (no longer use UnitB) then the dependency on C is lost. Hence, C must remain in the dependencies of A. If you remove the dependency A-B, then there is probably a reason for that. For example A no longer works with B. Yes, but A still depends on C. If the only link from A to C is through B, then removing B will result in a missing dependency. Michael. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Package dialog ?
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org wrote: Ehm, 'many other complaints' ? that is just your opinion :-) I opened the report partly because of other complaints and questions. It was not only my opinion. What more, there was a filter which prevented adding some files, but didn't give any feedback. Hm. Strange argument. If that is a problem, just give the ability to switch filters. Not a reason to completely change the way of working ? No, the user selectable filter is another thing. There are hard-coded rules that prevent some files being added because they are not valid for the project/package. For some reason the rules are not needed when files are added by d'n'd or file open dlg. The code is inconsistent, I was planning to consult Mattias later about it. Now I see there is another inconsistency : http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=27720 The code needs refactoring so that logic for accepting / rejecting a file is in one place. Project and package have lots of common features and similar code. I have already created a common base class and an interface for them. I hope it can be extended to share code for these dialogs. Your plan looks good. You are clever! 3. Duplicate the 'New item' functionality in context menu. Context menu and button bar should be in sync, IMHO. What should be in sync? The Enabled state maybe? 9. Rework dependencies management to something more sane. Multi-select etc. It could use the Open Loaded Package dialog after some modifications. The clean up dependencies should IMHO be removed, but that is a separate topic entirely. Why? It is a very useful feature. Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] always visible cursor editor option?
On 24/03/2015 11:50, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: What does that option actually mean and do? Unfortunately there is no help on the topic in the wiki http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/IDE_Window:_Editor_Options The header General is a link: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/IDE_Window:_Editor_Options_General#Always_visible_cursor When you scroll, and the caret would leave the visible screen, then the caret will move to stay visible. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Package Dialog - File properties
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys mailingli...@geldenhuys.co.uk wrote: Is there a global option to permanently hide the File Properties panel in *all* Package Dialogs? I can currently use the Splitter and drag it to the bottom, but not hide it completely. Then when I open that package dialog again, the Splitter is restored to the original position and I have to hide it manually again. :-/ There is no option for it yet, but there should be. The package dialog requires many changes, this will be one of them. Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] always visible cursor editor option?
On 2015-03-24 14:32, Martin Frb wrote: When you scroll, and the caret would leave the visible screen, then the caret will move to stay visible. Many thanks. Regards, - Graeme - -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Ways of making new style design
On 2015-03-24 13:10, aradeonas wrote: Graeme I'm working with fpGUI If you have any further fpGUI questions, don't hesitate to drop a message in the fpgui.support newsgroup. Details connecting to the news server (or via the web interface) can be found here: http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/support.shtml Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Package dialog ?
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Juha Manninen wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org wrote: Ehm, 'many other complaints' ? that is just your opinion :-) I opened the report partly because of other complaints and questions. It was not only my opinion. OK, that was not clear :) What more, there was a filter which prevented adding some files, but didn't give any feedback. Hm. Strange argument. If that is a problem, just give the ability to switch filters. Not a reason to completely change the way of working ? No, the user selectable filter is another thing. There are hard-coded rules that prevent some files being added because they are not valid for the project/package. For some reason the rules are not needed when files are added by d'n'd or file open dlg. The code is inconsistent, I was planning to consult Mattias later about it. Now I see there is another inconsistency : http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=27720 The code needs refactoring so that logic for accepting / rejecting a file is in one place. Project and package have lots of common features and similar code. I have already created a common base class and an interface for them. I hope it can be extended to share code for these dialogs. That makes sense :) Your plan looks good. You are clever! Not clever, I simply like a simple dialog ;) Like I wrote to Mattias: too many things are hidden behind 1 button. By separating out functionality, things become more clear. 3. Duplicate the 'New item' functionality in context menu. Context menu and button bar should be in sync, IMHO. What should be in sync? The Enabled state maybe? I meant that IMHO items that appear in the button bar should also appear in the context menu. 9. Rework dependencies management to something more sane. Multi-select etc. It could use the Open Loaded Package dialog after some modifications. If you add an option to select a package that is not loaded, yes. Use case: When doing e.g. a checkout or download, you may end up with a new package that is not yet loaded in the IDE. You need to be able to add that to depencencies. Not all packages are installed in the IDE. The clean up dependencies should IMHO be removed, but that is a separate topic entirely. Why? It is a very useful feature. I don't see how. IMHO it is even wrong, because I want to see explicitly all dependencies added to a package/project. Package A (unitA) depends on Package B (UnitA uses unitB) and Package C (UnitA uses unitC). Package B depends on Package C (unitB uses unitC). Invoking the dialog in A will propose to remove the C from the dependencies of A (transitivity). That is IMHO not wanted. If I remove the depencency on B (no longer use UnitB) then the dependency on C is lost. Hence, C must remain in the dependencies of A. Maybe there are other uses of this dialog that I am unaware of. But as I said: that is another discussion entirely :) Michael. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Errors in win32winapi.inc and elsewhere spotted by compiler
Hi I fixed lots of uninitialized variables based on compiler warnings in r48476 - r484782. I also added some ToDo items for things I could not fix. I would need help for the ToDo items especially in LCL-Win32 code. I know there are people here who know that code. In win32winapi.inc there are 3 ToDos : In function TWin32WidgetSet.Frame3D there is : // ToDo: Fix Result and the loop. I is not used for anything. for I := 0 to FrameWidth - 1 do Result := Boolean(DrawEdge(DC, ARect, Edge[Style], BF_RECT or BF_ADJUST)); In function TWin32WidgetSet.StretchMaskBlt there is : // check if the Src has an alpha channel Bmp := Windows.GetCurrentObject(SrcDC, OBJ_BITMAP); // get info // ToDo: WinBmp is not initialized at all. Should it be initialized from Bmp? HasAlpha := (Windows.GetObject(bmp, SizeOf(WinBmp), @WinBmp) 0) and (WinBmp.bmBitsPixel = 32) and CreatePremultipliedBitmap(WinBmp, Bmp, AlphaBmp); and later: // ToDo: Initialize AlphaDC, AlphaObj and Blend. Other fixes are welcome, too. Regards, Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Package dialog ?
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 17:13:10 +0100 (CET) Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org wrote: [...] If you remove the dependency A-B, then there is probably a reason for that. For example A no longer works with B. Yes, but A still depends on C. And if not? If you read the explanation carefully, you'll see that that was a given. If the only link from A to C is through B, then removing B will result in a missing dependency. The clean up function does not remove the A-B. Euh ? I didn't say that ? I was trying to explain why I think that removing the explicit C dependency (which the dialog proposes to do) is potentially harmful at a later stage. The clean up function transforms one valid state into another valid state. And it shows what it will do and the programmer decides if this is good or not. There is no force or automatism. I didn't say that either :) There is nothing wrong with your policy to list all dependencies. Don't force your policy on others. ? I don't want to. From what I've seen till now, this dialog seems useless (and potentially harmful) to me. But like I already stated, there may be uses that I am unaware of, which could justify the existence of this dialog even for me. (for instance, it could start comparing actual used units) Anyway, the discussion was about the package dialog. The dependencies is another matter entirely. Michael. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Anyone using IME input on SynEdit/IDE (Japanese, Chinese, Arabic, ...)
Please have a look at: http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,27838.msg172530.html This may interest you, or you may want to add your feedback. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Hide mouse cursor while typing
On 24/03/2015 16:30, Jürgen Hestermann wrote: Am 2015-03-24 um 12:53 schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: Is there an option to hide the mouse cursor while I'm typing? Even better would be to only show the mouse cursor when the mouse is moving (and a small delay time after stopping). Of what use is a mouse cursor when not using the mouse? I programmed it this way in one of my program and it is a boon! 1) It is more complex. Currently: Hide on typing excludes modifier keys (shift/ctrl) if pressed alone. Reason: depending on config, they can be used with the mouse (e.g shift: extend selection; ctrl: click codetool link) 2) That said: I am open to the idea. Patch welcome. (With configurable time) -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Hide mouse cursor while typing
Am 2015-03-24 um 12:53 schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: Is there an option to hide the mouse cursor while I'm typing? Even better would be to only show the mouse cursor when the mouse is moving (and a small delay time after stopping). Of what use is a mouse cursor when not using the mouse? I programmed it this way in one of my program and it is a boon! -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Errors in win32winapi.inc and elsewhere spotted by compiler
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Dmitry Boyarintsev skalogryz.li...@gmail.com wrote: HasAlpha := (Windows.GetObject(bmp, SizeOf(WinBmp), @WinBmp) 0) According to the specs, there's no need for initialization. Right, I missed that one. Now it is clear when I look at it. I got plenty or warning with fpc -Oodfa. Some of them were false positives but many of them were real errors. I removed the ToDo item in r48485. Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Ways of making new style design
On Monday 23 March 2015 21:47:25 Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys mailingli...@geldenhuys.co.uk wrote: For full customisation and theme support, use a GUI toolkit that was designed for that purpose. fpGUI Toolkit (see the URL below) Please don't use our mailling list for propaganda of unrelated software, fpgui has its own communication channels, use them to talk about fpgui. Do you remember the times when you helped Delphi people in the Borland news-groups to find the Lazarus alternative? ;-) Competition is a good thing, don't you think? fpGUI and MSEgui both are opensource and have the same licence as Lazarus, all use Free Pascal and a broader spectrum of toolkits is a plus for the Free Pascal community. Most Free Pascal users don't know alternatives because of the historical overwhelming visibility of Lazarus, a post with the words fpGUI, MSEide+MSEgui and the names of other Free Pascal non Lazarus projects in the Lazarus channels is no harm for the Free Pascal community IMO, as you did it for Lazarus in the Delphi channels when Lazarus wasn't so well-known. Martin -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Ways of making new style design
On Monday 23 March 2015 21:43:00 aradeonas wrote: Graeme I check fpGUI in past two years but if I want to be honest even its screenshot's doesn't impressed me enough because I think with my self I cant do such the example link that I sent with fpGUI,Is it possible to make something look like that?Was I terribly wrong? About MSEgui I didnt know it,I will check it.Thank you. XelPlayer has been made with MSEide+MSEgui: http://almin-soft.ru/index.php?multimedia-programmy/xelplayer/xelplayer15-screenshots As Graeme writes, MSEgui has a radical other approach for style themes. Please ask questions about MSEide+MSEgui on the mailing list: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk Mail archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mseide-msegui-talk%40lists.sourceforge.net/maillist.html Martin -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Does a Lazarus build include the revision of the FPC used to compile it?
Is including the FPC revision part of the Lazarus build nope does FPC have a way of telling its revision number, if it is checked out from a Git mirror, ie using `git archive` without the metadata? nope, only version (fpc -iV), and that's what building revision.inc in the Lazarus build process does -- View this message in context: http://free-pascal-lazarus.989080.n3.nabble.com/Lazarus-Does-a-Lazarus-build-include-the-revision-of-the-FPC-used-to-compile-it-tp4041424p4041427.html Sent from the Free Pascal - Lazarus mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Hide mouse cursor while typing
On 24/03/2015 11:53, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Hi, I'm using Centos 6.6 and Lazarus IDE compiled with GTK2. Is there an option to hide the mouse cursor while I'm typing? I've seen this option in other editors and is quite handle. use case: Click with the mouse to place the edit cursor. Mouse cursor obscures the edit cursor, so sometimes i'm not 100% sure the edit cursor is in the correct position/location. Options Editor Mouse: Hide mouse when typing -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Hide mouse cursor while typing
On 2015-03-24 14:34, Martin Frb wrote: Options Editor Mouse: Hide mouse when typing Ah brilliant - how did I miss that! @#$? Many thanks. Regards, - Graeme - -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Errors in win32winapi.inc and elsewhere spotted by compiler
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com wrote: // ToDo: Fix Result and the loop. I is not used for anything. for I := 0 to FrameWidth - 1 do Result := Boolean(DrawEdge(DC, ARect, Edge[Style], BF_RECT or BF_ADJUST)); false positive. https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd162477%28v=vs.85%29.aspx BF_ADJUST causes ARect to be different on every call. Side-effect function :) hmm... of is DrawEdge declaration wrong having ARect be passed as const rather than var? thanks, Dmitry -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Errors in win32winapi.inc and elsewhere spotted by compiler
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Dmitry Boyarintsev skalogryz.li...@gmail.com wrote: of is DrawEdge or is DrawEdge -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Errors in win32winapi.inc and elsewhere spotted by compiler
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Dmitry Boyarintsev skalogryz.li...@gmail.com wrote: hmm... or is DrawEdge declaration wrong having ARect be passed as const rather than var? it's var! function DrawEdge(hdc: HDC; var qrc: TRect; edge: UINT; grfFlags: UINT): BOOL; external 'user32' name 'DrawEdge'; Imho, the compiler should be adjusted for these cases not to give a note. Since number of iterations is important in this case, not the iterator value. thanks, Dmitry -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Does a Lazarus build include the revision of the FPC used to compile it?
On 24 March 2015 at 06:42, leledumbo leledumbo_c...@yahoo.co.id wrote: Is including the FPC revision part of the Lazarus build nope does FPC have a way of telling its revision number, if it is checked out from a Git mirror, ie using `git archive` without the metadata? nope, only version (fpc -iV), and that's what building revision.inc in the Lazarus build process does So the revision.inc is for Lazarus only, not FPC? I need to compile Lazarus and FPC from a source only archive without the metadata, and I am creating the revision.inc for Lazarus from the commit messages. If it is not necessary for FPC then that should be fine, otherwise I will have to clone the corresponding commits for the compilation. -- Frank Church === http://devblog.brahmancreations.com -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Package dialog ?
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 17:13:10 +0100 (CET) Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org wrote: [...] If you remove the dependency A-B, then there is probably a reason for that. For example A no longer works with B. Yes, but A still depends on C. And if not? If the only link from A to C is through B, then removing B will result in a missing dependency. The clean up function does not remove the A-B. The clean up function transforms one valid state into another valid state. And it shows what it will do and the programmer decides if this is good or not. There is no force or automatism. There is nothing wrong with your policy to list all dependencies. Don't force your policy on others. Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Errors in win32winapi.inc and elsewhere spotted by compiler
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com wrote: I also added some ToDo items for things I could not fix. I would need help for the ToDo items especially in LCL-Win32 code. I know there are people here who know that code. // ToDo: WinBmp is not initialized at all. Should it be initialized from Bmp? HasAlpha := (Windows.GetObject(bmp, SizeOf(WinBmp), @WinBmp) 0) According to the specs, there's no need for initialization. https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd144904%28v=vs.85%29.aspx It's pure out parameter. (for parameters requiring initialization it would be _In_ or _In_Out_) thanks, Dmitry -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Ways of making new style design
Am Tuesday 24 March 2015 14:10:34 schrieb aradeonas: Graeme I'm working with fpGUI and also I wants to remind you for ant new screen shots. Regards, Ara You can take a look at https://github.com/fredvs/uidesigner_ext https://github.com/fredvs/uidesigner_ext/blob/master/INSTALL.txt with a lot of styles for fpgui for example -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Ways of making new style design
On 03/23/2015 09:35 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 2015-03-23 20:19, aradeonas wrote: I know its possible with other languages specialty web programing but how in Lazarus? The LCL (GTK2, QT, Carbon, Win32) are not designed to be customise with themes. The design goal of LCL is to look native. So install a OS wide theme - that's it. QtLCL apps can be customized out of current system theme via stylesheets. You can provide --stylesheet yourstylesheet.blah to any qtlcl application and it'll work. zeljko -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Ways of making new style design
On 24 March 2015 at 07:23, zeljko zel...@holobit.net wrote: On 03/23/2015 09:35 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 2015-03-23 20:19, aradeonas wrote: I know its possible with other languages specialty web programing but how in Lazarus? The LCL (GTK2, QT, Carbon, Win32) are not designed to be customise with themes. The design goal of LCL is to look native. So install a OS wide theme - that's it. QtLCL apps can be customized out of current system theme via stylesheets. You can provide --stylesheet yourstylesheet.blah to any qtlcl application and it'll work. zeljko I need to know more about this. Are any examples available? -- Frank Church === http://devblog.brahmancreations.com -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] How do you guys extract an SVN revision number from a Git commit ref?
I am using this code to obtain the SVN revision of a git commit hash. The example below is for the latest commit hence the git log -n 1. git log -n 1 | head -n 7 | tail -n 1 | cut -d @ -f 2 | cut -d -f 1 It checks for the seventh line, searches for the '@' in trunk@N and extracts it from there. The problem is the position the line with the trunk@N string varies. Is there some way to work it calculate it? My awk, grep and sed skills are not so hot. -- Frank Church === http://devblog.brahmancreations.com -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
