Re: [Lazarus] IDE Desktops redesign

[Ondrej Pokorny]

I created a feature request on mantis: 
http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=29742


Ondrej

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[Lazarus] Mouse multi click rewritten

[Ondrej Pokorny]

Today I rewrote multiple click handling of the LCL. The reason for it 
was that every widgetset used its own code and logic and thus they 
behaved differently and also the maintainance was hard. Now the logic is 
in one function for every widget in Controls.pp CheckMouseButtonDownUp.


I updated the following WS to use the unified code: win32, qt, gtk2.
I will also update (or at least try to) update Carbon and Cocoa. For 
now, they use their own code/logic and behave slightly different from 
other WS.


It was quite a big change and nobody is perfect so please if you find 
any regressions regarding the mouse (popup menu not showing, not 
receiving mouse messages or receiving double mouse messages etc.), 
report them.


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Re: [Lazarus] Procedure List dialog regressions

[Ondrej Pokorny]

On 26.02.2016 15:55, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:

Again, sorry for getting the author of the changes wrong.


No problem, just check the things first - it's mostly easy.

Furthermore I wouldn't say it is that bad that Juha introduced some 
regressions during the rewrite - if you want Lazarus to be developed 
further, there will be always regressions in the trunk. That's a part of 
the game. I am quite sure he'll be able to tidy things up. If he doesn't 
fix them quickly enough for you, you can still try to do it yourself. I 
even sometimes experience that it takes more time to fill an issue 
report than to actually fix a bug :)


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Re: [Lazarus] Procedure List dialog regressions

[Graeme Geldenhuys]

On 2016-02-26 20:58, Juha Manninen wrote:
> On the other hand the behavior felt
> partly broken already earlier.

"Felt broken" and "is broken" are very different things. :) I use
Procedure List daily - it's 90% of how I navigate the code I work on. So
it works pretty well for me, and doesn't require mouse usage, and is
optimised for keyboard usage. The only local mod I made (before
yesterday's svn update) was to save/restore column widths to a INI file.
I didn't know the preferred method for the whole of Lazarus IDE.

Anyway, I'll say again, the Procedure List in Trunk is unusable now. I
reverted your patch to make it usable here. My suggestion is to revert
your patch now and push to Trunk. At least then it will be usable again
for everybody else using trunk. Then, at your own convenience, you can
rework your patch until it is ready.

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Re: [Lazarus] Official/recommended citations for scientific papers

[Juha Manninen]

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Žilvinas Ledas  wrote:
> @book{Person13,
>   Title= {Getting Started with the Lazarus IDE},
>   Author   = {R. Person},
>   Publisher= {Packt Publishing Ltd},
>   Year = {2013},
>   Address  = {United Kingdom}
> }

That contains errors. Not a good reference.

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Re: [Lazarus] Procedure List dialog regressions

[Juha Manninen]

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys
 wrote:
> Ondrej, I think you last worked on this? Not sure if you are still busy
> with this, otherwise I'll raise bug reports in Mantis for it.

Actually I am the guilty one. I made it a modeless IDE window and used
ListViewFilter component for the filter.
Yes, some things broke more. On the other hand the behavior felt
partly broken already earlier.
Earlier you mentioned other things that broke already before my edits,
like missing icons. I don't know what caused them. There is another
mail thread about it.

Don't report yet. I will look at this within coming 2 weeks.

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Re: [Lazarus] Official/recommended citations for scientific papers

[Vincent Snijders]

2016-02-26 18:39 GMT+01:00 Žilvinas Ledas :

> Hello all,
>
> this is a cross-post to FPC-Pascal and Lazarus mailing lists.
>
> I'm finishing my PhD thesis and because I was implementing some partial
> differential equation solvers and visualization/image processing tools
> using FPC and Lazarus, I need to add some references. I was wandering are
> there any published official/recommended/written-by-core-developers
> articles or books about Free Pascal and/or Lazarus I could use as
> references in my thesis (English preferably)?
>

See http://wiki.freepascal.org/Pascal_and_Lazarus_Books_and_Magazines
Espcially:

   - Michaël van Canneyt: Free Pascal 2
   
,
   CUL 2012, Paperback, ISBN 978-3-936546-72-9
    - The
   official Free Pascal book in German.
   - Lazarus - The Complete Guide
    by
   M. van Canneyt, M. Gärtner, S. Heinig, F. Monteiro de Cavalho, I.
   Ouedraogo: Blaise Pascal Magazine 2011, Paperback, ISBN 978-94-90968-02-1
    - The
   official Lazarus Book in English.


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[Lazarus] Official/recommended citations for scientific papers

[Žilvinas Ledas]

Hello all,

this is a cross-post to FPC-Pascal and Lazarus mailing lists.

I'm finishing my PhD thesis and because I was implementing some partial 
differential equation solvers and visualization/image processing tools 
using FPC and Lazarus, I need to add some references. I was wandering 
are there any published official/recommended/written-by-core-developers 
articles or books about Free Pascal and/or Lazarus I could use as 
references in my thesis (English preferably)?



Currently I'm referencing these:

@Book{Leestma93,
  Title= {Pascal Programming and Problem Solving},
  Author   = {S. Leestma and L. Nyhoff},
  Publisher= {Prentice Hall},
  Year = {1993},
  Address  = {New York},
  Edition  = {Fourth}
}

@book{Person13,
  Title= {Getting Started with the Lazarus IDE},
  Author   = {R. Person},
  Publisher= {Packt Publishing Ltd},
  Year = {2013},
  Address  = {United Kingdom}
}

@book{Ellison15,
  Author   = {M. Abiola-Ellison},
  Title= {Getting Started with Lazarus and Free 
Pascal: Learning by Doing},

  Publisher= {Mka Publishing Ltd},
  Year = {2015},
  Address  = {United Kingdom}
}

Any other suggestions?


Best regards,
Žilvinas

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[Lazarus] A good DB tree view

[Aradeonas]

Hi,

For my project I need a good tree view and the best free one was and is
VirtualTree but it has not DB component and the only version I can found
that could compile with Lazarus is this TVirtualDBTreeEx version[1]. It
need a simple change and it will compile but it has a uncompleted demo
that I cant compile and I dont have clue how it works and some test
shows weird behavior so I want to ask : What is the best choice to have
a good DB tree view? is there any component available or should I write
code for every DB situation in my projects? Also a good ability of
VirtualTree is that t can be used as a grid and the best grid I know is
KGrid but it aslo have a not beautiful/weird DB behave and ic compare of
VirtualTree abilities and speed will seems not a good choice.

So all questions in one : Is there any good DB TreeView/Grid in
Lazarus world?

Regards, Ara


Links:

  1. https://github.com/adem0x/virtualdbtreeex

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Re: [Lazarus] Question about modal forms behaviour under windows

[Denis Kozlov]

@zeljko

I've just tested your fixes in latest TRUNK on Windows 7 and it's looking
good!

Have you considered changing the behaviour where the modal form is getting
squashed into a corner when application gets minimized?

Instead of squashing every modal form into a corner of the desktop (as
demonstrated on the screenshot below), it would be better to minimize them
as non-modal forms, i.e. minimize into the taskbar with the main form. Do
you think its feasible?

[image: Inline images 1]


On 8 February 2016 at 10:25, zeljko  wrote:

> On 02/08/2016 11:00 AM, Denis Kozlov wrote:
>
>>
>> There is a long standing bug report about this particular topic:
>> 0026463: Application minimize not working with modal forms
>> http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=26463
>>
>> *Issue 1*: Application.Minimize should always minimize the entire
>> application, including modal forms. Currently, the modal form will get
>> squashed into a corner while other disabled windows will keeping hanging
>> on the desktop.
>>
>> *Issue 2*: Minimizing a modal form, provided that it has the minimize
>> button enabled, should call Application.Minimize with the effect as
>> described in Issue 1.
>>
>>
> Your opinion is correct. Thanks for the info, I'll assign that issue to my
> self and fix it soon.
>
> zeljko
>
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Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus on my ancient computer?

[Bart]

On 2/26/16, Donald Ziesig  wrote:

> Congrats on getting the old-timer to work.

;-)


> Also congrats on getting rid of the crti.o message.  I have been
> ignoring those messages for years because they don't seem to do anything
> bad, but I sure would like to get rid of them.  How did you do it?

Find the crti.o file on your system:
find -name crti.o

It seems to default to /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/

Open /etc/fpc.cfg
Find the line that sets the path for library files, (-Fl)
Add the found path to it (separate with semiconon)

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Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus on my ancient computer?

[Donald Ziesig]

On 02/26/2016 09:26 AM, Bart wrote:

Hi,

On 2/14/16, Bart  wrote:


This is a bit off-topic.

I have an ancient computer: Intel Celeron 700Mhz, 512MB RAM, 20GB IDE HD.
(http://flyingsheep.nl/computer_nostalgie.htm#celeron700)
(Hardware upgrades are not in the picture.)


Thanks to all for the give advice.
In the end I have installed Debian 8.3.0 XFCE on my geriatric system.
(I tested some other systems, but their installers just froze.)

It's up and running.
It feels rather slower than Suse 10.0 though.

I managed to install fpc 3.0 (from install script, did not install from .deb)
I managed to build Lazarus from svn.
That took some 30 minutes, and at one time I thought the system had
frozen, but it was just the linker taking ages (and probably being
very memory hungry).
I dealt with the infamous "crti.o not found" message.

As we speak I'm typing this in Iceweasel!

Bye for now.

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Hi Bart,

Congrats on getting the old-timer to work.

Also congrats on getting rid of the crti.o message.  I have been 
ignoring those messages for years because they don't seem to do anything 
bad, but I sure would like to get rid of them.  How did you do it?


Thanks,

Don Ziesig

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Re: [Lazarus] Procedure List in Lazarus IDE

[Graeme Geldenhuys]

On 2015-12-18 19:58, Juha Manninen wrote:
> I turned ProcedureList into a proper IDE window in r50908.

Juha, please revert that patch - it broke Procedure List completely! It
is now in an unusable state. See my message thread "Procedure List
dialog regressions" for details.

I reverted it locally, and now it works as normal again.

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Re: [Lazarus] Procedure List dialog regressions

[Graeme Geldenhuys]

On 2016-02-26 14:38, Ondrej Pokorny wrote:
> Come on. Recently I have been bombed by so many people that 
> think/guess/believe something without actually checking it.

Appologies - I meant no harm.

As for checking the SVN log, SubVersion doesn't accurately reflect the
author of a patch (unlike Git), instead it only shows the person that
applied the patch. Commit message also doesn't always reveal this
information either.

Either way, I now looked at the history and see Juha applied a patch
(r50908) in December, from Alexey Torgashin. I suspect that is the patch
that massively broke procedure list. I'll revert it locally and see if
it resolves the problems.

Again, sorry for getting the author of the changes wrong.

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Re: [Lazarus] Procedure List dialog regressions

[Ondrej Pokorny]

On 26.02.2016 14:50, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:

Ondrej, I think you last worked on this?


Come on. Recently I have been bombed by so many people that 
think/guess/believe something without actually checking it. I 
unfortunately got already somehow allergic to this attitude.
You are welcome to open SVN and see the log for the file 
ide/procedurelist.pas.


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Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus on my ancient computer?

[Bart]

Hi,

On 2/14/16, Bart  wrote:

> This is a bit off-topic.
>
> I have an ancient computer: Intel Celeron 700Mhz, 512MB RAM, 20GB IDE HD.
> (http://flyingsheep.nl/computer_nostalgie.htm#celeron700)
> (Hardware upgrades are not in the picture.)
>

Thanks to all for the give advice.
In the end I have installed Debian 8.3.0 XFCE on my geriatric system.
(I tested some other systems, but their installers just froze.)

It's up and running.
It feels rather slower than Suse 10.0 though.

I managed to install fpc 3.0 (from install script, did not install from .deb)
I managed to build Lazarus from svn.
That took some 30 minutes, and at one time I thought the system had
frozen, but it was just the linker taking ages (and probably being
very memory hungry).
I dealt with the infamous "crti.o not found" message.

As we speak I'm typing this in Iceweasel!

Bye for now.

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Re: [Lazarus] Procedure List dialog regressions

[Graeme Geldenhuys]

On 2016-02-26 13:50, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> *  There used to be an option to match text on the left only, or
>anywhere. This option is now gone.

And yet another bug

*  The Objects dropdown has a "" option. This then displays
   all procedures or functions - things not in a Class, Record or
   Object. Selecting that options does nothing. In fact the dropdown
   doesn't seem to function at all any more.


Could we not rather revert all latest modifications??? The dialog is now
completely fd.


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Re: [Lazarus] Procedure List dialog regressions

[Graeme Geldenhuys]

On 2016-02-26 13:50, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> *  There used to be an option to match text on the left only, or
>anywhere. This option is now gone.


Another bug.

*  In now remembers the last searched text between Procedure List
   usages. So now searching for something new, I first have to select
   and delete the previous search text, then I can type my new search.
   I want to start typing immediately, like I use to do.


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[Lazarus] Procedure List dialog regressions

[Graeme Geldenhuys]

Hi,

Ondrej, I think you last worked on this? Not sure if you are still busy
with this, otherwise I'll raise bug reports in Mantis for it.

*  The edit box is too small. eg: on my screen, default view, brand new
   lazarus profile... the edit box is about 2cm wide, where as the
   class combobox dropdown is 13cm.

*  The class combobox has tons of duplicates. It didn't before, thus
making it pretty useless.

*  There used to be an option to match text on the left only, or
   anywhere. This option is now gone.


I'm using the latest Lazarus trunc (updated yesterday).


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Re: [Lazarus] Is there any alternative to PPL (Parallel Programming Library) on FPC?

[silvioprog]

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Kostas Michalopoulos <
badsectorac...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Check the MTProcs unit in the multithreadprocs package (part of Lazarus,
> but you need to manually install it from the Install/Uninstall Packages
> box). This wiki page describes how to use it:
>
> http://wiki.freepascal.org/Parallel_procedures
>

Awesome!

I didn't know that this package existed. I'll test it tonight.

Thanks a lot for share this link! :-)

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[Lazarus] Lazarus / FPC Donations

[JuuS]

I had the same question about Laz/fpc donations last december

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Subject:Re: [Lazarus] Its Xmas!
Date:   Tue, 15 Dec 2015 22:48:44 +0100
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On 12/15/2015 09:38 PM, Vincent Snijders wrote:
> 
> 
> 2015-12-15 20:00 GMT+01:00 JuuS >:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is the Lazarus fund still on the PayPal account Felipe M de C (as stated
> at http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/How_to_donate_to_Lazarus)?
> 
> 
> Yes.

Thank you. Happy Solstice.




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Re: [Lazarus] Easy to use memory dataset and TMemDataset problems

[Aradeonas]

> Why not ? It should perfectly work without file.
It seems I got a problem with changing properties in design time and
then opening it. if I make everything in code it works good. But problem
with memdatset and memds units still exist.

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Re: [Lazarus] Easy to use memory dataset and TMemDataset problems

[Michael Van Canneyt]

On Fri, 26 Feb 2016, Aradeonas wrote:


Hi,

I want a memory dataset like VirtualTable [1]and really I cant
understand what are these bufdataset and memdataset and wiki[2] page as
I cant make bufdataset works without a file.


Why not ? It should perfectly work without file.

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[Lazarus] Easy to use memory dataset and TMemDataset problems

[Aradeonas]

Hi,

I want a memory dataset like VirtualTable [1]and really I cant
understand what are these bufdataset and memdataset and wiki[2] page as
I cant make bufdataset works without a file. I want an easy to sue
memory dataset without any file usage.

Yes there is a way to use TMemDataset like this as @Thaddy said:
> program memdbtest; {$apptype console}{$mode objfpc} uses  db,memds;
> var   MemDb:TMemDataset; begin MemDb:=TMemDataset.Create(nil); try
> MemDb.FieldDefs.Add('NAME',ftString,20);   MemDb.CreateTable;
> MemDb.Open;   MemDb.Append;   MemDb.FieldByName('NAME').Value:='Free';
> MemDb.Post;   MemDb.Append;
> MemDb.FieldByName('NAME').Value:='Pascal';   MemDb.Post;
> MemDb.SaveToFile('MemDb.txt');  // as long you do not close, you don't
> have to save finally   MemDb.Close;   MemDb.Free; end; end.
But as you can see it use memds unit that CodeTools has problem with
memds unit and also it will replace it with MemDataSet unit that has a
different TMemDataset without CreateTable option.

Also Wiki [3]says that BufDataset is a better choice but is it really?
and is it a choice for using as a memory dataset?how?

Regards, Ara



Links:

  1. https://www.devart.com/vtable/
  2. 
http://wiki.freepascal.org/How_to_write_in-memory_database_applications_in_Lazarus/FPC
  3. 
http://wiki.freepascal.org/How_to_write_in-memory_database_applications_in_Lazarus/FPC#Introduction

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Re: [Lazarus] Feature Request: hide button text in windows with toolbars

[Bo Berglund]

On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:20:42 +0100 (CET), Michael Van Canneyt
 wrote:

>2. Where are the supporting donations for a new/bigger mantis server disc ?
>
>Currently, I basically pay 100 EUR/month out of my own pocket for hosting
>the main FPC server (which is also the mantis server) in a reliable data 
>center.
>
>Bigger discs (accomodating more images) means more money needs to be put on 
>the table.

How do I donate for FreePascal/Lazarus?

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Re: [Lazarus] Feature Request: hide button text in windows with toolbars

[Graeme Geldenhuys]

On 2016-02-26 08:52, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
> 
> It all depends on what service(s) you require.

If you don't mind me asking what [all] service are running off that
specific hosted environment? eg: wiki, mailing list etc. Just trying to
see if I could help in any way.


> As for donations: A foundation has been legally established, 
> I should really do some pushing to make it active.
> 
> Where is my time machine ? :/

:)

Either way, I am more than willing to give monthly or annual donations.
FPC has give me so much already.


> I didn't mean to complain, I just wanted to point out that sometimes simple
> wishes have unexpected consequences that need to be taken into account.

I fully understand. I was maybe too open with my statement. I'm
conservative with screenshot size and usage (just like HTML vs TXT
emails) - but others aren't.



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Re: [Lazarus] Feature Request: hide button text in windows with toolbars

[Michael Van Canneyt]

On Fri, 26 Feb 2016, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:


On 2016-02-26 07:20, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:


2. Where are the supporting donations for a new/bigger mantis server disc ?


Clearly I should have mentioned "attachments with moderation", and only
when really needed. See my reply to Bo.



Currently, I basically pay 100 EUR/month out of my own pocket for hosting
the main FPC server (which is also the mantis server) in a reliable data center.


Wow, that is seriously expensive - does the Free Pascal project accept
donations towards this? I'm assuming that includes an actual server
(hardware) with full control to it? If not, I better up my hosting
prices. I just charged a client £50 hosting fee for a whole year. :-/


It all depends on what service(s) you require.

I know I can get much cheaper than that (kimsufi at OVH for example), 
but then I have less bandwidth, no backups, less diskspace, RAM, CPU etc.


As for donations: A foundation has been legally established, 
I should really do some pushing to make it active.


Where is my time machine ? :/

I didn't mean to complain, I just wanted to point out that sometimes simple
wishes have unexpected consequences that need to be taken into account.

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Re: [Lazarus] IDE Desktops redesign

[Ondrej Pokorny]

On 26.02.2016 8:48, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
IMO nothing. Just remove the check "auto save active desktop" in 
Manage desktops dialog and you always start with the same desktop.


But that is not what I want ?
I want to start with the desktop as it was where I left off.

I don't use desktops now.
So I need to use desktops, and check "auto save active desktop" to 
achieve

what I want, after your rework ?


Yes sorry. I misinterpreted your question.

Yes, you have to check "auto save active desktop" to start with the 
window layout where you left off. It is checked by default, so you don't 
have to do anything.


Btw. nothing will change here, it works like this already now. You can 
try to uncheck auto-save then move windows, restart IDE and you'll see 
it. The "Restore window geometry" is useless if you uncheck auto-save in 
Desktops.



(not pushing any change in direction, just trying to understand what 
will happen)


No problem, I am not overly sensitive, please write any 
thoughs/ideas/critics freely.


Ondrej

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Re: [Lazarus] Feature Request: hide button text in windows with toolbars

[Graeme Geldenhuys]

On 2016-02-26 07:20, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
> 
> 2. Where are the supporting donations for a new/bigger mantis server disc ?

Clearly I should have mentioned "attachments with moderation", and only
when really needed. See my reply to Bo.


> Currently, I basically pay 100 EUR/month out of my own pocket for hosting
> the main FPC server (which is also the mantis server) in a reliable data 
> center.

Wow, that is seriously expensive - does the Free Pascal project accept
donations towards this? I'm assuming that includes an actual server
(hardware) with full control to it? If not, I better up my hosting
prices. I just charged a client £50 hosting fee for a whole year. :-/


Regards,
  - Graeme -

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