Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
> Looks nice ! So your client does recognize the quoting scheme. Hence > it should be able to create it when sending. Unfortunately it seems not. Regards, Ara -- http://www.fastmail.com - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
On 11/20/2015 05:59 PM, Aradeonas wrote: For example in previous email you quote my sentence and it shows you quoted from me and I like how it look. Looks nice ! So your client does recognize the quoting scheme. Hence it should be able to create it when sending. -Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
For example in previous email you quote my sentence and it shows you quoted from me and I like how it look. Regards, Ara -- http://www.fastmail.com - A fast, anti-spam email service. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
On 11/20/2015 05:35 PM, Aradeonas wrote: So it seems mines is not decent or I dont know how to work with it. Thunderbird shows decently marked quotes by nicely colored vertical lines at the left and right side of the text: single line for a quote, dual line for a quote in a quote, etc. -Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
On 11/20/2015 05:49 PM, Aradeonas wrote: OK I will look at it but mostly I want an online one because Im moving and it can be better. The sender does not create these lines. It only uses a decent scheme (with correctly placed ASCII characters). Thunderbird just does the presentation to it's user. -Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
> Thunderbird shows decently marked quotes by nicely colored vertical lines at the left and right side of the text: single line for a quote, dual line for a quote in a quote, etc. OK I will look at it but mostly I want an online one because Im moving and it can be better. Thanks. Ara -- http://www.fastmail.com - A fast, anti-spam email service. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
> A decent mail client automatically marks a quote with a standard quote marking scheme (see many other mails here). So it seems mines is not decent or I dont know how to work with it. In the end I want to apologize to all for my trouble. Regards, Ara -- http://www.fastmail.com - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
On 11/20/2015 05:27 PM, Aradeonas wrote: Like this? A decent mail client automatically marks a quote with a standard quote marking scheme (see many other mails here). -Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
> Please don't place a quote below your answer to same. This makes a thread unreadable Like this? Without quote. Regards, Ara -- http://www.fastmail.com - Same, same, but different... -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
On 11/20/2015 05:03 PM, Aradeonas wrote: I try with quoting write now. Please don't place a quote below your answer to same. This makes a thread unreadable Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
> Also even on client software which handles threading properly, if somebody has a discussion group etc. sorted by date (to see messages as they arrive, without having to scroll back) threading is not immediately visible: /all/ you have is context. Here everything is immediately in FastMail and I don't have problem,Problem will happen for others just in Mail List. As I said,its on me to solve it and I try with quoting write now. Regards, Ara On Fri, Nov 20, 2015, at 04:54 AM, Lukasz Sokol wrote: > On 20/11/15 11:21, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > >> Also even on client software which handles threading properly, if >> somebody has a discussion group etc. sorted by date (to see messages >> as they arrive, without having to scroll back) threading is not >> immediately visible: /all/ you have is context. >> > > On Thunderbird at least, I can, and I have, both thread AND date > sort... seems to mostly sort threads by most recent message. > > el es > > > -- > _ > Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- http://www.fastmail.com - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
On 20/11/15 11:21, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > Also even on client software which handles threading properly, if > somebody has a discussion group etc. sorted by date (to see messages > as they arrive, without having to scroll back) threading is not > immediately visible: /all/ you have is context. > On Thunderbird at least, I can, and I have, both thread AND date sort... seems to mostly sort threads by most recent message. el es -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
Henry Vermaak wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 09:56:19AM +0100, Michael Schnell wrote: On 11/19/2015 05:05 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Indeed, it is terrible. ;-) No problem here. (with Thunderbird) The mails are decently threaded. This is not about threading but about context, as Michael vC said. I.e. which part of the message is he replying to. Also even on client software which handles threading properly, if somebody has a discussion group etc. sorted by date (to see messages as they arrive, without having to scroll back) threading is not immediately visible: /all/ you have is context. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 09:56:19AM +0100, Michael Schnell wrote: > On 11/19/2015 05:05 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > >Indeed, it is terrible. ;-) > No problem here. (with Thunderbird) The mails are decently threaded. This is not about threading but about context, as Michael vC said. I.e. which part of the message is he replying to. Henry -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
> No problem here. (with Thunderbird) The mails are decently threaded. Thanks. My mail provider make everything threaded very good so there is no need to quote everything but for others it is pain so I should do something for it so from know I will quote previous email. Regards, Ara On Fri, Nov 20, 2015, at 12:56 AM, Michael Schnell wrote: > On 11/19/2015 05:05 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: >> Indeed, it is terrible. ;-) > No problem here. (with Thunderbird) The mails are decently threaded. > > -Michael > > -- > _ > Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- http://www.fastmail.com - Send your email first class -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
On 11/19/2015 05:05 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Indeed, it is terrible. ;-) No problem here. (with Thunderbird) The mails are decently threaded. -Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
On 2015-11-19 16:20, Aradeonas wrote: > Wow Graeme, You made this too? Are you a person or a company full of > minions? :D Without quoted context, I'm assuming your are referring to XanaNews? ;-) I didn't create it, but am maintaining it for now. The original SVN repository disappeared a year or so ago. I luckily had a full Git clone of it, so I made it public on Github. I then applied some of my own bug fixes, merged in some contributions, and made a few releases to date. XanaNews is a great news reader, and very configurable, but unfortunately I don't really have time for new XanaNews development - only minor fixes here and there. My hope is that somebody would at some point step up and take over any new development work - maybe even port it to LCL (or fpGUI - a man can dream) to make it truly cross-platform. I works very will via WINE under FreeBSD though. At least having the XanaNews code in Git (and on Github) means the code will not be lost again. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ My public PGP key: http://tinyurl.com/graeme-pgp -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
Wow Graeme, You made this too? Are you a person or a company full of minions? :D Regards, Ara On Thu, Nov 19, 2015, at 08:19 AM, Aradeonas wrote: >> Indeed, it is terrible. ;-) > Ye I know,we talked about this :D I change settings, now it get > better,what you think? Also I will check what you said,Thanks. > > Regards, Ara > > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015, at 08:05 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: >> On 2015-11-19 15:48, Aradeonas wrote: >>> but it is not good for mail list. >> >> Indeed, it is terrible. ;-) >> >> You can also use a NNTP news client (XanaNews is pretty good [ >> https://github.com/graemeg/xananews/releases]) and post messages via >> that. Gmane supports that. >> >> You can access the mailing list just as if it was a newsgroup through >> gmane. However, the list is private, so you can freely read it, but >> you may only post to it using gmane if you subscribe to the list. >> >> To configure your newsreader to read Lazarus mail list you must: 1 - >> Subscribe to the mailing list using your e-mail 2 - Set the news >> server to: news.gmane.org 3 - Set the e-mail for use on this server >> to the one you used to subscribe on the list 4 - Look for >> gmane.comp.ide.lazarus.general using your news reader >> >> >> Regards, - Graeme - >> >> -- >> fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal >> http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ >> >> My public PGP key: http://tinyurl.com/graeme-pgp >> >> -- >> _ >> Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org >> http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus > > -- http://www.fastmail.com - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own > -- > _ > Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- http://www.fastmail.com - IMAP accessible web-mail -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
> Indeed, it is terrible. ;-) Ye I know,we talked about this :D I change settings, now it get better,what you think? Also I will check what you said,Thanks. Regards, Ara On Thu, Nov 19, 2015, at 08:05 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > On 2015-11-19 15:48, Aradeonas wrote: >> but it is not good for mail list. > > Indeed, it is terrible. ;-) > > You can also use a NNTP news client (XanaNews is pretty good [ > https://github.com/graemeg/xananews/releases]) and post messages via > that. Gmane supports that. > > You can access the mailing list just as if it was a newsgroup through > gmane. However, the list is private, so you can freely read it, but > you may only post to it using gmane if you subscribe to the list. > > To configure your newsreader to read Lazarus mail list you must: 1 - > Subscribe to the mailing list using your e-mail 2 - Set the news > server to: news.gmane.org 3 - Set the e-mail for use on this server to > the one you used to subscribe on the list 4 - Look for > gmane.comp.ide.lazarus.general using your news reader > > > Regards, - Graeme - > > -- > fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal > http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ > > My public PGP key: http://tinyurl.com/graeme-pgp > > -- > _ > Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- http://www.fastmail.com - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
On 2015-11-19 15:48, Aradeonas wrote: > but it is not > good for mail list. Indeed, it is terrible. ;-) You can also use a NNTP news client (XanaNews is pretty good [https://github.com/graemeg/xananews/releases]) and post messages via that. Gmane supports that. You can access the mailing list just as if it was a newsgroup through gmane. However, the list is private, so you can freely read it, but you may only post to it using gmane if you subscribe to the list. To configure your newsreader to read Lazarus mail list you must: 1 - Subscribe to the mailing list using your e-mail 2 - Set the news server to: news.gmane.org 3 - Set the e-mail for use on this server to the one you used to subscribe on the list 4 - Look for gmane.comp.ide.lazarus.general using your news reader Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ My public PGP key: http://tinyurl.com/graeme-pgp -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
> Can you please, Please, PLEASE provide context in your mails ? It is impossible to know what you are answering to without any quoted text whatsoever. That is very annoying. Please ? Michael. > So SO sorry. It is because of my mail provider.It is fast and easy to use and I like it so much more than Gmail or what ever but it is not good for mail list. As you an see I should copy and past what you said and quote that, and it is again not clean. Although I try to quote when I talk to ore than one and in this case I answered just after Ondrej. Excuse me for annoying, Ara -- http://www.fastmail.com - Does exactly what it says on the tin -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
Can you please, Please, PLEASE provide context in your mails ? It is impossible to know what you are answering to without any quoted text whatsoever. That is very annoying. Please ? Michael. On Thu, 19 Nov 2015, Aradeonas wrote: I dont know,I thought maybe it is a way for me load a file faster in multiple use. Regards, Ara -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
I dont know,I thought maybe it is a way for me load a file faster in multiple use. Regards, Ara -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
On 19.11.2015 16:18, Aradeonas wrote: using OS cache system Why OS cache system when you then talk about file is large so I cant copy it to memory. ? This thread might help you: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/buffered-filestream-td5709980.html Ondrej -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
On Thu, 19 Nov 2015, Aradeonas wrote: Hi, For a task I need fast file reading using OS cache system (Im using Windows) so if I read a file repeatedly it get less memory but my problem is file is large so I cant copy it to memory. Is there a way for it that be multi platform or at least works on Windows? You can try memory mapping: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366556%28VS.85%29.aspx The same exists on Unices, using mmap(). Michael. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Fast file reading using file cache
Hi, For a task I need fast file reading using OS cache system (Im using Windows) so if I read a file repeatedly it get less memory but my problem is file is large so I cant copy it to memory. Is there a way for it that be multi platform or at least works on Windows? Regards, Ara -- http://www.fastmail.com - A fast, anti-spam email service. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus