[Lazarus] OpenSUSE KDE keeps stealing my IDE shortcuts
Hi, I've been forcefully pushed to change Linux Distros (from Ubuntu to OpenSUSE). I've been running the very stable Ubuntu 10.04 LTS for very long. But I recently upgraded to a new system, and 10.04 seems to lack some hardware support. The latest (K)Ubuntu 12.04 is damn unstable (random total system freezes - the mouse doesn't even move), and I absolutely hate the Unity interface. Gnome 3 is no better. Unfortunately switching the desktop to something like JWM doesn't help because of the system freezes - which seems to be a unstable OS (kernel) issue. So I'm trying OpenSUSE 12.1 (64-bit), and so far the OS is stable, but KDE is still something to get used to. Anyway, to get to the point. I have installed (copied) all my old development folders to the new system, and setup FPC as I normally had it. Compiling Lazarus IDE, and my other projects works as expected. What is happening though, is that KDE (I think) is stealing my keyboard shortcuts, so they don't work in Lazarus IDE (compiled with LCL-GTK2) or MSEide for that matter. eg; Ctrl+F4 to close an editor file doesn't work, and I am forced to use the mouse. Anybody know where in KDE do I look for global keyboard shortcuts, so I can disable Ctrl+F4 usage in KDE? I've already looked in System Settings - Shortcuts and Gestures, and searched for Ctrl+F4, but nowhere do I see an existing entry. Where else can I look? Does this happen to other KDE users too? -- Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://fpgui.sourceforge.net -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] OpenSUSE KDE keeps stealing my IDE shortcuts
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Hi, I've been forcefully pushed to change Linux Distros (from Ubuntu to OpenSUSE). I've been running the very stable Ubuntu 10.04 LTS for very long. But I recently upgraded to a new system, and 10.04 seems to lack some hardware support. The latest (K)Ubuntu 12.04 is damn unstable (random total system freezes - the mouse doesn't even move), and I absolutely hate the Unity interface. Gnome 3 is no better. Unfortunately switching the desktop to something like JWM doesn't help because of the system freezes - which seems to be a unstable OS (kernel) issue. So I'm trying OpenSUSE 12.1 (64-bit), and so far the OS is stable, but KDE is still something to get used to. Anyway, to get to the point. I have installed (copied) all my old development folders to the new system, and setup FPC as I normally had it. Compiling Lazarus IDE, and my other projects works as expected. What is happening though, is that KDE (I think) is stealing my keyboard shortcuts, so they don't work in Lazarus IDE (compiled with LCL-GTK2) or MSEide for that matter. eg; Ctrl+F4 to close an editor file doesn't work, and I am forced to use the mouse. Anybody know where in KDE do I look for global keyboard shortcuts, so I can disable Ctrl+F4 usage in KDE? I've already looked in System Settings - Shortcuts and Gestures, and searched for Ctrl+F4, but nowhere do I see an existing entry. Where else can I look? Does this happen to other KDE users too? Here it is 'System settings - Computer Administration - Keyboard Mouse - Standard Keyboard Shortcuts' (or global keyboard shortcuts). Surprised to hear you have problems with Kubuntu 12.04. I run it myself, didn't experience any problems, my laptop is up and running since months. Maybe a problem with the X drivers ? I never use the 'recommended' nvidia drivers, always a previous version. Michael. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] OpenSUSE KDE keeps stealing my IDE shortcuts
On Monday 30 July 2012 15:20:53 Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: So I'm trying OpenSUSE 12.1 (64-bit), and so far the OS is stable, but KDE is still something to get used to. BTW, KDE 3.5 for OpenSUSE 12.1 is here: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE3 Highly recommended. :-) Martin -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] OpenSUSE KDE keeps stealing my IDE shortcuts
On 30 July 2012 14:27, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: Here it is 'System settings - Computer Administration - Keyboard Mouse - Standard Keyboard Shortcuts' (or global keyboard shortcuts). Are you running OpenSuse as well? or some other KDE distro like Kubuntu? The reason I ask, is because my OpenSuse doesn't have that menu navigation structure you list. But I did find the Standard Keyboard Shurtcuts option, but I triple checked, and nowhere is there any mention of Ctrl+F4 as a keybinding. :-( Damn, this is frustrating - and a waist of my time! I hate change. I'll give OpenSuse a bit longer, but if I get more such issues, maybe I should try Ubuntu 10.04 again, but compile my own stock Linux kernel 3.2.x or something. some time later Another hour of fighting with a Desktop Environment has gone by, so I decided to compile and install JWM (Joe's Window Manager), copied over my .jwmrc file from my old PC, and now I have a 100% working desktop with no key shortcut stealing occurring. A desktop I can work with What bliss! :-D Surprised to hear you have problems with Kubuntu 12.04. I run it myself, didn't experience any problems, my laptop is up and running since months. I'm running a system with very new hardware, based on Ivy Bridge (Intel 3770K 3.5Ghz CPU on a Asus P8Z77-V motherboard). Some googleing revealed that I am not the only person with total system freeze-ups under Ubuntu 12.04. Maybe a problem with the X drivers ? I never use the 'recommended' nvidia drivers, always a previous version. I don't have a nvidia card, but a AMD (ATI) one. I already though of a driver issue, and tried the 'vesa', 'fbdev', 'radeon and 'fglrx' drivers. I still had the system freeze issue. I have no idea what Canonical did with the kernel, but they botched it! -- Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://fpgui.sourceforge.net -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] OpenSUSE KDE keeps stealing my IDE shortcuts
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 30 July 2012 14:27, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: Here it is 'System settings - Computer Administration - Keyboard Mouse - Standard Keyboard Shortcuts' (or global keyboard shortcuts). Are you running OpenSuse as well? or some other KDE distro like Kubuntu? The reason I ask, is because my OpenSuse doesn't have that menu navigation structure you list. But I did find the Standard Keyboard Shurtcuts option, but I triple checked, and nowhere is there any mention of Ctrl+F4 as a keybinding. :-( Damn, this is frustrating - and a waist of my time! I hate change. I run Kubuntu since several years. I dropped Asus as hardware, though. Never managed to get it working decently with linux. :/ But as usual, YMMV. Michael. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] OpenSUSE KDE keeps stealing my IDE shortcuts
Hi, On 30 July 2012 16:23, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: I run Kubuntu since several years. OK, that explains your different navigation structure then. I dropped Asus as hardware, though. Never managed to get it working decently with linux. :/ OpenSUSE is supporting my hardware perfectly (surprisingly) - in fact everything is working perfectly. USB3, Firewire, bluetooth, WiFi, and even the wireless printing works. It seems OpenSUSE just needed a new desktop environment - JWM. ;-) -- Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://fpgui.sourceforge.net -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] OpenSUSE KDE keeps stealing my IDE shortcuts
Hi, On 30 July 2012 17:57, Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com wrote: Ctrl+F1..Ctrl+F4 are normally used to switch desktops by KDE, see attachment (KDE 3.5). I had to switch off Ctrl+F4 too. :-) As I said, I couldn't find that option anywhere some more time later OK, I FINALLY found it. In OpenSUSE 12.1 under Global Keyboard Shortcuts, you must look carefully, there is a KDE Component combobox. Change the default from KDE Daemon to KWin, then you get a whole different list of global keyboard shortcuts. Then finally down the list is Switch to Desktop x options. Damn, but they really don't make things obvious!! Gnome has too little customization options, and KDE has too many (hidden away)! I'll stick to my JWM setup, as it works perfectly, and I don't need to fight it every step of the way. Thanks to Michael and Martin for helping. Development work can finally continue... -- Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://fpgui.sourceforge.net -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
