Re: [Ldsoss] New list location
--- Jesse Stay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if I could get the group's opinion on this. I'm going to be switching the location of where the ldsoss list is hosted here in the near future. I was wondering if anyone minded if we used Google groups or Yahoo groups to just host the list? I have server space if not, but hosting it with Google or Yahoo means the burden then falls on Google or Yahoo to ensure our list stays up, and they have a lot more sysadmins than we do. I switched my family mailing lists to Google Groups last year for pretty much exactly that reason. I'd be fine with using either service, with a slight preference for Google. - Gary Thornock ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
[Ldsoss] myldsmail.net POP access?
I had a request recently from a friend whose son is on a mission, to find out if it's possible to download his email from his myldsmail.net account. Apparently his mailbox is almost full, and his parents don't want to have to get everything by copy-and-paste if they can help it. Does anyone know if it's possible to access a myldsmail.net account via POP or IMAP? Thanks! ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Internet Filter
--- Jay Askren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there is a way to use Dan's Guardian to filter the computer it's on so it's not easy to get around the filter, I'd be interested in hearing how to do that. The first thought that came to mind was to use transparent proxy-style firewall rules, but then I wondered, given that the browser and the proxy would be running on the same machine, whether iptables could distinguish between an outbound request from the proxy and an outbound request (on the same port) from a browser. I'm fairly sure I could get pf to do it, but I'm less familiar with iptables. The other option is to configure the browser such that it always uses the proxy and the user can't disable it (probably using a lockPref statement in /usr/lib/firefox/firefox.cfg). ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Ward Website Email Broadcasting
--- Greg Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then there are the wards that abide by Church policy, decommission their seemingly effective, external ward email list, but because of restrictive functionality, never quite make the transition to using the ward website's Email Broadcasts, crippling what was once useful communication. The later is my current ward's situation. That's my ward's situation, too. We used to have a Mailman list set up for a weekly newsletter for parents of the Young Men (and several of the YM themselves were also on the list). The list was set up so that any of the bishopric or the YM presidency could send mail to the list, but it was generally the secretary who was responsible for the newsletter. Now, we don't do any newsletter at all, because we were never able to duplicate the functionality using the web site. ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] MLS and e-mails
--- Thomas Haws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In 2006, it doesn't seem reasonable to automatically strip phone or e-mail at the time of a move. People are increasingly giving us their mobile numbers, and of course e-mail addresses don't usually change at the time of a move. So I'm hoping I can get this changed in MLS. That depends on the email address. Email addresses from, say, Yahoo or Gmail will probably stay the same, but an email address from an ISP will often change because people move out of the service area of that ISP and switch to a different one. ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Open source or free diary/journal software recommendation
--- Dan Hanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 16 Jun 2006, John M wrote: Any suggestions? Apache + PHP + Mediawiki + MySQL (I believe all those should work on Windows), and you can keep your journal in a wiki. Different users/profiles might be a challenge, but I believe it would be possible. I'd have to delve more into the Mediawiki guts to know for sure. I'd have said WordPress instead of MediaWiki, but otherwise my suggestion would be about the same. ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Scout Tracking
--- Thomas Haws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shane, I'd like to follow up on this: On 6/14/06, Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. The installer will put the web app in the Program Files directory and a shortcut will be added to the menu and desktop. The shortcut will both launch the web app and launch the user's browser once the web app has started. It's not hard to do. An icon in the system tray will indicate the web app is running and give the user the opportunity to stop it. That means, though, that you require the user to have a web server installed on his computer (either because your installer put it there, or because he already had one). This brings me back to a comment I made several days ago: sure, I *can* install a LAMP application on my Powerbook, but I don't think it's reasonable to require every user of the system to do so. So when I open my browser and view source for a given page, I will see form action= what? Expanding my mind here, what are the known species of form action scripts, and which are most amenable to Windows deployment? PHP CGI ASP JSP In general, there are: - Web server modules (mod_perl, mod_php, ASP, ISAPI plugins and the like) - naturally very dependent on a specific HTTP server - CGI scripts (can be written in a wide variety of languages, Perl and PHP being common, but Python, Ruby, C, Delphi and many others are also used) - generally portable to multiple HTTP servers, so long as the language will run on your platform of choice. Don't try to do Delphi-based CGI on Unix. - Programs that include their own custom HTTP servers - and whatever Java uses. Java is weird that way :) ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] New Scriptures Beta Test Site
I know it's the same as the previous version, but I like the photographs and maps. Is there any chance of getting larger versions, perhaps linked to from the current images? I would love to be able to download the whole lot for offline use. Or failing that, just some decent html of the standard works, ideally with footnotes and stuff. Especially so for the foreign language versions. That's been my biggest wish regarding the scriptures.lds.org site since it was originally launched. It's great to have the scriptures available online, and I love having the whole site including the maps, the footnotes, the Bible dictionary and such. But I don't use it much, because most of the time, when I'm looking for a scripture, I'm not connected to the internet. So, I end up using the plain-vanilla HTML version that I have on my laptop, with no footnotes, no maps, no Bible dictionary, etc. (but with my custom very-large-font CSS -- I use my laptop for scripture reading precisely because I can get larger text size than the biggest print version, with much less weight to carry around.) ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Scout Tracking
--- Tom Welch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used TroopMaster in the past and it did not require me to purchase a new license each year. However that was about 3 years ago and they may have changed their pricing plan. The biggest problem that I had with TroopMaster was that it is not easy to share with the next scout master that comes into the calling. At the Church we are looking at sponsoring an open source project around scouting. Any interested people that would like to work on such a program? Tom TroopMaster changed their licensing to a subscription model with the new major version release last year. The upgrade price for users of old versions gets a 3 year subscription. I'd be interested in working on an open source troop management program, particularly if it worked on multiple platforms. I've run TroopMaster successfully under Wine on Linux and Virtual PC on OS X, but I'd love to have something native :) - Gary PGP Key ID: 071B173D Fingerprint: ED30 B048 6833 56B4 28C0 CE52 F12B 884A 071B 173D ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Scout Tracking
--- Tom Welch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Hanks wrote: On Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Tom Welch wrote: could also have a plug-in type system for working with the various religious awards as well (Duty to God for LDS) which would then allow other Scouting groups to take advantage of it without tying it to just LDS Scouting. Yes, DTG is on the map to integrate into this program. The thoughts were to create some kind of a web based application so that parents, scout leaders and boys can all work together. Web-based would be great, but with the church's policy on non-official websites, where does that put the local unit that would want to install and use such a web-based app? -- Dan These are issues that are currently being debated. More soon! Tom I have a couple of other concerns with a web-based app. One, of course, is the privacy and security issue. Do we want to create an application where we (in theory, at least) need to have signed permission forms from all of the parents, because we're putting their kids' information online? Password access controls are all fine and good, but the concern doesn't go away. There's also the issue of portability, by which I mean physical portability, not cross-platform portability. Running TroopMaster in Virtual PC is a bit of a pain, but having it on my Powerbook when I go to meetings with the Scoutmaster, the committee or the parents (regardless of the absence of an internet connection in the meeting) is half the value of using it in the first place. Granted, I could easily install a LAMP app on my Powerbook, too, but should that be necessary? - Gary PGP Key ID: 071B173D Fingerprint: ED30 B048 6833 56B4 28C0 CE52 F12B 884A 071B 173D ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: Fwd: [Ldsoss] Mapping on lds.org
--- Richard K Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did I mention this is very beta? =) I'd be curious if it even works for you. So far, it has worked on 2 and failed on 1. It works for me, although the 'pins' aren't exactly in the right spots, and about half of the ward is missing. ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] new members
I followed some of the initial discussion about LDSOSS on the BYU UUG list, but I missed the creation of the separate mailing list and forgot all about it until Bryan Murdock mentioned it on the UUG list again. ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
