Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF history

2013-07-21 Thread Mike Noyes
On 07/21/2013 11:21 AM, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> Am 21.07.2013 19:52, schrieb Mike Noyes:
>> On 07/21/2013 10:21 AM, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Am 21.07.2013 17:09, schrieb Andrew:
 Hi all.
 It seems like LEAF history task becomes lost somewhere into mailing list 
 archives... I think that it'll be good for project if it'll be written 
 (at least early stages and main releases with short benefits description).
>>>
>>> Indeed the idea was lost in the archives.
>>> And with the updates for 5.0.1-beta1 I think updating packages has
>>> almost been for the time being, so there should be some time to write a
>>> draft for the history (good time to reflect history after Bering-uClibc
>>> hit the 100.000 downloads milestone last week).
>>> Anyway, my concerns are still, where it should be published.
>>> The current pages are outdated, and maintenance is difficult, if not
>>> impossible (adding packages for v5 does not work etc..)
>>> So moving to a new CMS is IMHO urgent.
>>
>> Everyone,
>> The website is my fault. I can extract the content from the database,
>> and convert it to html. I propose we import it into Mediawiki as a
>> temporary measure. I'll then archive the website, place it in the FRS,
>> and delete it from the shell. I'll then make Mediawiki our project website.
>>
>> Comments?
> 
> There are certainly a few questions we have to decide first:
> 1) what about roles/access
> 2) what about LEAF versions beyond Bering-uClibc (even if they are
> historical)?
> 3) integration with SF Allura
> 4) integration of packages page with links to git repo, where a user can
> download seperate packages.
> 
> To summarize  - I do not like pages that looks like a wiki - and though
> David did a very good job moving our docs from docbook-based webpages to
> wiki, the main entry should be something more appealing than the "wiki
> look".
> That's the reasons, I've liked your idea to use drupal etc..

KP,
Understood.

> But maybe you can provide a proposal of Mediawiki for our project
> website, that will proof me wrong.

This is a temporary measure. We need to get the content out of
phpWebsite; and placing it in the wiki will allow us to organize, prune,
etc. the content before placing it in a new CMS.


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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF history

2013-07-21 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Am 21.07.2013 19:52, schrieb Mike Noyes:
> On 07/21/2013 10:21 AM, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Am 21.07.2013 17:09, schrieb Andrew:
>>> Hi all.
>>> It seems like LEAF history task becomes lost somewhere into mailing list 
>>> archives... I think that it'll be good for project if it'll be written 
>>> (at least early stages and main releases with short benefits description).
>> 
>> Indeed the idea was lost in the archives.
>> And with the updates for 5.0.1-beta1 I think updating packages has
>> almost been for the time being, so there should be some time to write a
>> draft for the history (good time to reflect history after Bering-uClibc
>> hit the 100.000 downloads milestone last week).
>> Anyway, my concerns are still, where it should be published.
>> The current pages are outdated, and maintenance is difficult, if not
>> impossible (adding packages for v5 does not work etc..)
>> So moving to a new CMS is IMHO urgent.
> 
> Everyone,
> The website is my fault. I can extract the content from the database,
> and convert it to html. I propose we import it into Mediawiki as a
> temporary measure. I'll then archive the website, place it in the FRS,
> and delete it from the shell. I'll then make Mediawiki our project website.
> 
> Comments?

There are certainly a few questions we have to decide first:
1) what about roles/access
2) what about LEAF versions beyond Bering-uClibc (even if they are
historical)?
3) integration with SF Allura
4) integration of packages page with links to git repo, where a user can
download seperate packages.

To summarize  - I do not like pages that looks like a wiki - and though
David did a very good job moving our docs from docbook-based webpages to
wiki, the main entry should be something more appealing than the "wiki
look".
That's the reasons, I've liked your idea to use drupal etc..

But maybe you can provide a proposal of Mediawiki for our project
website, that will proof me wrong.

kp

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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF history

2013-07-21 Thread Mike Noyes
On 07/21/2013 10:21 AM, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Am 21.07.2013 17:09, schrieb Andrew:
>> Hi all.
>> It seems like LEAF history task becomes lost somewhere into mailing list 
>> archives... I think that it'll be good for project if it'll be written 
>> (at least early stages and main releases with short benefits description).
> 
> Indeed the idea was lost in the archives.
> And with the updates for 5.0.1-beta1 I think updating packages has
> almost been for the time being, so there should be some time to write a
> draft for the history (good time to reflect history after Bering-uClibc
> hit the 100.000 downloads milestone last week).
> Anyway, my concerns are still, where it should be published.
> The current pages are outdated, and maintenance is difficult, if not
> impossible (adding packages for v5 does not work etc..)
> So moving to a new CMS is IMHO urgent.

Everyone,
The website is my fault. I can extract the content from the database,
and convert it to html. I propose we import it into Mediawiki as a
temporary measure. I'll then archive the website, place it in the FRS,
and delete it from the shell. I'll then make Mediawiki our project website.

Comments?

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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF history

2013-07-21 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Hi,

Am 21.07.2013 17:09, schrieb Andrew:
> Hi all.
> It seems like LEAF history task becomes lost somewhere into mailing list 
> archives... I think that it'll be good for project if it'll be written 
> (at least early stages and main releases with short benefits description).

Indeed the idea was lost in the archives.
And with the updates for 5.0.1-beta1 I think updating packages has
almost been for the time being, so there should be some time to write a
draft for the history (good time to reflect history after Bering-uClibc
hit the 100.000 downloads milestone last week).
Anyway, my concerns are still, where it should be published.
The current pages are outdated, and maintenance is difficult, if not
impossible (adding packages for v5 does not work etc..)
So moving to a new CMS is IMHO urgent.

> P.S. It'll be good also to update news on main page - there is still 
> 4.3.3 release on top

Yes, it does not work at all for the main page, updating Bering-uClibc
pages is painful - that's why the latest annoucements has been done in
the "blog" (http://sourceforge.net/p/leaf/blog/?source=navbar) as a
"workaround".

Mike, any chance we'll have an up-to-date CMS soon? We really need a
replacement for the current CMS. and I think there will be enough
decisions to make to start ASAP.

kp

> 12.09.2012 19:29, Mike Noyes пишет:
>> On 09/11/2012 11:25 AM, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
>> -snip-
>>> But first I'd like to see, if the current webpages are moved to a newer
>>> CMS. What about this task Mike?
>> KP,
>> I'm still waiting on SF Staff to update the software on the project web
>> farm, and implement openid.
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/community-docs/Hosted%20Apps%20Retirement/
>>
>> - Timeline -
>> OpenID authentication to SourceForge accountsIn-progress, target for
>> completion in July
>> Updates to Project web to support apps   Planned for August/September
>>
> 
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Re: [leaf-devel] LEAF history

2013-07-21 Thread Andrew
Hi all.
It seems like LEAF history task becomes lost somewhere into mailing list 
archives... I think that it'll be good for project if it'll be written 
(at least early stages and main releases with short benefits description).

P.S. It'll be good also to update news on main page - there is still 
4.3.3 release on top

12.09.2012 19:29, Mike Noyes пишет:
> On 09/11/2012 11:25 AM, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> -snip-
>> But first I'd like to see, if the current webpages are moved to a newer
>> CMS. What about this task Mike?
> KP,
> I'm still waiting on SF Staff to update the software on the project web
> farm, and implement openid.
>
> http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/community-docs/Hosted%20Apps%20Retirement/
>
> - Timeline -
> OpenID authentication to SourceForge accounts In-progress, target for
> completion in July
> Updates to Project web to support appsPlanned for August/September
>


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