[leaf-devel] RE: [Shorewall-users] I quit.
Tom, Your support had been so valuable as the shorewall itself. It has been a pleasure reading your replies on this channel. Shorewall has brought so much credibility to many net admins (and the would be net admins:-))from the Top Management of their organizations. And with shorewall many have made a career in Linux Administration and Networking even if they do not know the ABC of iptables and networking. As an user of the shorewall, My Hats Off to You. If it is possible , we would like to hear from you often in whatever form. Thank You and Hope you enjoy the break. Best Regards Siva -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Eastep Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 8:47 AM To: Shorewall Users; Shorewall Announcements; LEAF; leaf-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Tarry Eastep Subject: [Shorewall-users] I quit. It is with regret that I announce that Shorewall development and support is officially ended. Sean's post has finally driven it home to me that in the long term, trying to support a project like Shorewall is impossible for a person of my personality and age. Sean -- please believe that this isn't about you or your post -- your post was just the proverbial straw on this old camel's back. Unlike the originators of other successful open source projects, I have not been able to attract a core of people who believe in Shorewall and who are willing to make sacrifices to ensure it's success. That is my weakness and I accept it. But is means that I have been left with trying to develop, document, and support Shorewall almost single-handedly. I cannot do it any more. I have apparently been able to create the illusion of more success than has been achieved. Sean believes that he should be able to ignore the notices on the Shorewall 1.3 web site announcing that support for that release has ceased and thinks that the errata page should still have updated Shorewall components for a release that my 60 year old mind can't remember most of the details about. And he is right to expect that. But I can't deliver it. And I just cannot deal with the support and documentation frustration any more -- support, the documentation and the web site consume an order of magnitude more of my time than does Shorewall development. Apparently, I am completely inept at web site design because people just can't find the information that they need; and I have no more energy to try to fix it. Since I began developing Shorewall: a) I have gained over 60 pounds in weight. b) My lawn and landscaping have become an embarrassment in the neighborhood. c) I have begun exhibiting addictive behavior toward Linux and Shorewall. d) I have developed sleep disorders (I use a breathing aid at night) e) I dislike my life. It's time to get myself cleaned up and re-enter the life of the living. I will leave the Shorewall website and server in place until July 4 in case there is any community interest in picking up the pieces. Please email me privately if you are interested in carrying on; I'll do what I can to help. Tonight I am deleting myself from all of the Shorewall and Leaf mailing lists. I will clean up what I have for a 2.3 release and place it on the server as the last Shorewall release -- Shorewall 2.4.0. I would like to express my appreciation for all who have used Shorewall and who have enriched my life through Shorewall. I especially appreciate: - Steve Cowles who helped me so much in the early days - Francesca Smith who picked up the sample configurations when I had had it with them - Mike Noyes who was always willing to help improve the documentation. I regret letting down those of you who depend on Shorewall. But look at it this way -- you have the source for all of the code that you run and it's all written in a very simple programming language. And there was always the possiblilty that I would walk in front of a bus. ... and you have to admit that the price was right :-) Shorewall will always be a part of my life that I look back on with fondness. As always, -Tom -- Tom Eastep\ Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool Shoreline, \ http://shorewall.net Washington USA \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Public Key \ https://lists.shorewall.net/teastep.pgp.key --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt12alloc_id344op=click ___ leaf-devel mailing list leaf-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
[leaf-devel] RE: [Shorewall-users] I quit.
All, I am prepared to host the website/domain, is there a group of people that are willing to be active in the ongoing support/development of shorewall? Regards, T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Eastep Sent: Wednesday, 18 May 2005 1:17 PM To: Shorewall Users; Shorewall Announcements; LEAF; leaf-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Tarry Eastep Subject: [Shorewall-users] I quit. It is with regret that I announce that Shorewall development and support is officially ended. Sean's post has finally driven it home to me that in the long term, trying to support a project like Shorewall is impossible for a person of my personality and age. Sean -- please believe that this isn't about you or your post -- your post was just the proverbial straw on this old camel's back. Unlike the originators of other successful open source projects, I have not been able to attract a core of people who believe in Shorewall and who are willing to make sacrifices to ensure it's success. That is my weakness and I accept it. But is means that I have been left with trying to develop, document, and support Shorewall almost single-handedly. I cannot do it any more. I have apparently been able to create the illusion of more success than has been achieved. Sean believes that he should be able to ignore the notices on the Shorewall 1.3 web site announcing that support for that release has ceased and thinks that the errata page should still have updated Shorewall components for a release that my 60 year old mind can't remember most of the details about. And he is right to expect that. But I can't deliver it. And I just cannot deal with the support and documentation frustration any more -- support, the documentation and the web site consume an order of magnitude more of my time than does Shorewall development. Apparently, I am completely inept at web site design because people just can't find the information that they need; and I have no more energy to try to fix it. Since I began developing Shorewall: a) I have gained over 60 pounds in weight. b) My lawn and landscaping have become an embarrassment in the neighborhood. c) I have begun exhibiting addictive behavior toward Linux and Shorewall. d) I have developed sleep disorders (I use a breathing aid at night) e) I dislike my life. It's time to get myself cleaned up and re-enter the life of the living. I will leave the Shorewall website and server in place until July 4 in case there is any community interest in picking up the pieces. Please email me privately if you are interested in carrying on; I'll do what I can to help. Tonight I am deleting myself from all of the Shorewall and Leaf mailing lists. I will clean up what I have for a 2.3 release and place it on the server as the last Shorewall release -- Shorewall 2.4.0. I would like to express my appreciation for all who have used Shorewall and who have enriched my life through Shorewall. I especially appreciate: - Steve Cowles who helped me so much in the early days - Francesca Smith who picked up the sample configurations when I had had it with them - Mike Noyes who was always willing to help improve the documentation. I regret letting down those of you who depend on Shorewall. But look at it this way -- you have the source for all of the code that you run and it's all written in a very simple programming language. And there was always the possiblilty that I would walk in front of a bus. ... and you have to admit that the price was right :-) Shorewall will always be a part of my life that I look back on with fondness. As always, -Tom -- Tom Eastep\ Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool Shoreline, \ http://shorewall.net Washington USA \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Public Key \ https://lists.shorewall.net/teastep.pgp.key --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7412alloc_id=16344op=click ___ leaf-devel mailing list leaf-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
[leaf-devel] Re: [Shorewall-users] I quit.
Your passion shone through. Thank you. Tom Eastep wrote: It is with regret that I announce that Shorewall development and support is officially ended. Sean's post has finally driven it home to me that in the long term, trying to support a project like Shorewall is impossible for a person of my personality and age. Sean -- please believe that this isn't about you or your post -- your post was just the proverbial straw on this old camel's back. Unlike the originators of other successful open source projects, I have not been able to attract a core of people who believe in Shorewall and who are willing to make sacrifices to ensure it's success. That is my weakness and I accept it. But is means that I have been left with trying to develop, document, and support Shorewall almost single-handedly. I cannot do it any more. I have apparently been able to create the illusion of more success than has been achieved. Sean believes that he should be able to ignore the notices on the Shorewall 1.3 web site announcing that support for that release has ceased and thinks that the errata page should still have updated Shorewall components for a release that my 60 year old mind can't remember most of the details about. And he is right to expect that. But I can't deliver it. And I just cannot deal with the support and documentation frustration any more -- support, the documentation and the web site consume an order of magnitude more of my time than does Shorewall development. Apparently, I am completely inept at web site design because people just can't find the information that they need; and I have no more energy to try to fix it. Since I began developing Shorewall: a) I have gained over 60 pounds in weight. b) My lawn and landscaping have become an embarrassment in the neighborhood. c) I have begun exhibiting addictive behavior toward Linux and Shorewall. d) I have developed sleep disorders (I use a breathing aid at night) e) I dislike my life. It's time to get myself cleaned up and re-enter the life of the living. I will leave the Shorewall website and server in place until July 4 in case there is any community interest in picking up the pieces. Please email me privately if you are interested in carrying on; I'll do what I can to help. Tonight I am deleting myself from all of the Shorewall and Leaf mailing lists. I will clean up what I have for a 2.3 release and place it on the server as the last Shorewall release -- Shorewall 2.4.0. I would like to express my appreciation for all who have used Shorewall and who have enriched my life through Shorewall. I especially appreciate: - Steve Cowles who helped me so much in the early days - Francesca Smith who picked up the sample configurations when I had had it with them - Mike Noyes who was always willing to help improve the documentation. I regret letting down those of you who depend on Shorewall. But look at it this way -- you have the source for all of the code that you run and it's all written in a very simple programming language. And there was always the possiblilty that I would walk in front of a bus. ... and you have to admit that the price was right :-) Shorewall will always be a part of my life that I look back on with fondness. As always, -Tom Subject: Re: [leaf-user] New RFC1918 file needed? From: Sean Covel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 22:02:18 -0400 To: Tom Eastep [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tom Eastep [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: LEAF User leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net Tom, Tom Eastep wrote: Sean Covel wrote: I looked under errata for 1.3.14 and the rfc1918 file that was there was old. I guess that one is more up-to-date. Sean -- There is one up-to-date rfc1918 file for Shorewall versions up to 2.0.1 linked from the top of the errata page. Do you actually think I have enough spare time to prepare separate updated rfc1918 files (which have the same contents) for each of the dozens of Shorewall releases that included Bogon address ranges in that file? Especially Shorewall releases that have not been supported for over two years (Hint: 1.3.14 falls into that category)?? Since I'm not a Shorewall developer, I assumed I should look under the errata for the version of Shorewall I was using. How am I to know that every version of Shorewall from xxx to yyy had exactly the same format for the rfc1918 file? Do you actually believe that the list of "bad" IP addresses is dependent on which verison of Shorewall your are running? Please THINK when you sit down to your computer. Ouch! Having a bad day? Obviously "bad" IP addresses are not Shorewall version dependant, but are rfc1918 files? How should I know? Besides, I
