Re: [leaf-user] editing lrp files in windows

2004-09-23 Thread Christian HOSTELET
Hello the list,
Coming back on this topic after some feedback from KP
A simpler approach regarding Tools is to keep 'dropbear.lrp'
instead of loading 'sshd.lrp' and 'sftp.lrp' on the Bering box.
This is a lighter solution as well as more conformant to Bering-uClibc's 
standards.

On the Windows' side, you can still use PuTTY for secured
telnet sessions, but instead of using PSFTP, you have to use
some SCP client because Dropbear doesn't implement SFTP.
Personally I'm using WinSCP3 (http://winscp.sourceforge.net)
from Martin Prikryl (that let's me remember I've to become a donor :-)
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Subject: [leaf-user] editing lrp files in windows


I am running Bering uClibc 2.1.3 and am going to upgrade to 2.2.
Since I am happy with most of my settings in my current 2.1.3 I wanted to
copy and paste a lot of my settings from the old to the new.  I only have
windows OS machines so I was hoping there might be some text editor that
runs in windows xp to copy text from my .lrp files and paste them to the
new release.
If not, then I will write all my settings down by hand and then retype it
in the new release. . What a beating!!!
Thanks,
Andrew
Andrew,
Why not use one of your current Bering machines as the editor tool?
I don't remember if a similar process has already been described, but if
that can help you, here is is how I proceed.
*  Tools:
  - sshd and sftp (recommended over telnet and ftp) on your Bering 
machine.
  - the 'unzippackage' and 'redopackage' scripts I've written for this
purpose (see below)
  - PuTTY and PSFTP on your Windows machine (as sshd and sftp clients)
  - WinRAR on your Windows machine if you don't want to burn a CD with
 the 'Bering-uClibc_2.2_iso_bering-uclibc.iso' file else burn a CD :-)
 WinRAR is really capable in browsing .lrp packages.

*  Steps
1.. Installing tools
   1.a
 Install 'sshd' and 'sftp' on your Bering machine (if not already
done).
 Refer to these packages on Leaf site for help.
You'll need 'sshkey.lrp' for initial installation (keys generation)
   1.b
 Install and configure PuTTY and PSFTP applications on your Windows
 machine.
 (available on http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/)
 Install WinRAR on your Windows machine
 (available as demo on http://www.rarlab.com/)
   1.c
 Install my 'local.lrp' package on your Bering machine:
  - copy local.lrp to a msdos floppy,
  - mount the floppy on the Bering machine
  (mount -tmsdos /dev/fd0 /mnt)
  - install the package: lrpkg -i /mnt/local
  - umount the floppy
2. Getting initial set of Bering 2.2 software
   2.a
 . Create a 'C:\Bering' directory on your Windows machine
   Get 'Bering-uClibc_2.2_iso_bering-uclibc.iso' and
   'Bering-uClibc_2.2_img_bering-uclibc-1680.exe' files
   on leaf.sourceforge.net and put them in this directory.
   2.b
   Create a 'C:\Bering\Image_Floppy' directory; then execute
   'Bering-uClibc_2.2_img_bering-uclibc-1680.exe'
   application selecting File extraction only.
   Designate 'C:\Bering\Image_Floppy' as the destination
   directory.
   After execution the content of the floppy is available in this
   directory
   2.c
   Create a 'C:\Bering\All_Packages`directory and either using WinRAR
   or having burnt a CD, transfer the content of
   'Bering-uClibc_2.2_iso_bering-uclibc.iso' image file in this 
directory.

   2.d
  Get last versions of Bering 2.2 packages (those updated after the
  official release - see Package changelog)
  and update your directories' content accordingly.
   2.e
  Create a 'C:\Bering\Target' to receive (as a reference/backup
   repository) the final .lrp's
   2.f
  I create also a 'C:\Bering\Xfer' directory to receive temporary 
files
  for PSFTP (put and get)

3. Build the new release
   3.1
  Open an SFTP session between your Windows machine and Bering
  Change remote (Bering machine) directory to '/tmp'   ( cd /tmp)
  Change local (Windows machine) directory to 'C:\Bering\Xfer'  (lcd
  command)
  Open a PuTTY session as root, and change your current directory to
  '/tmp'.
   3.2
  First, copy all files/packages which do not need modifications from
  'C:\Bering\Image_Floppy' to 'C:\Bering\Target'.
  I'm thinking of  'readme', 'log.lrp', 'config.lrp', 'syslinux.dpy'
  Same for additional packages from 'C:\Bering\All_Packages'
   3.3
  Now, select the first package which needs modification (e.g.
  'shorwall.lrp') and put a fresh copy in 'C:\Bering\Xfer'
  Using PSFTP, put this package on your Bering machine.
  Then via PuTTY session, issue the commands:
  firewall#   cd /tmp
  firewall#   unzippackage shorwall
  (firewall#  being the current shell prompt).
  This 

[leaf-user] Shorewall rfc1918 list

2004-09-23 Thread Erich Titl
Hi everybody

Networks 83.0.0.0 and 84.0.0.0 have been assigned to RIPE last year. In my version 
(1.4.8) of shorewall these networks are still blocked by the rfc1918 rules. It it 
probably worthwhile to remove these two networks from /etc/shorewall/rfc1918 if they 
should still be there.

cheers
Erich

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Re: [leaf-user] Shorewall rfc1918 list

2004-09-23 Thread M Lu
I believe Tom has updated that file some time ago on his site.

Here is a message on his mailing list:

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From: Tom Eastep [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mailing List for Shorewall Users [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Shorewall-users] Problem accessing shorewall.net (rfc1918
problem?)


 Alex Martin wrote:
  Hello,
 
  For the www.shorewall.net mirror, I updated the version 2.0 shorewall
  with http://shorewall.net/pub/shorewall/errata/1.4.10/rfc1918
 
  I does seem to drop 84.0.0.0/6.
 
  83.0.0.0/8  DROP# Reserved
  84.0.0.0/6  DROP# Reserved
  88.0.0.0/5  DROP# Reserved
 
  I assume this is the updated version?

 No. The updated version:

 71.0.0.0/8 logdrop # Reserved
 72.0.0.0/5 logdrop # Reserved
 89.0.0.0/8 logdrop # Reserved
 90.0.0.0/7 logdrop # Reserved

 -Tom




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Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 3:39 AM
Subject: [leaf-user] Shorewall rfc1918 list


Hi everybody

Networks 83.0.0.0 and 84.0.0.0 have been assigned to RIPE last year. In my
version (1.4.8) of shorewall these networks are still blocked by the rfc1918
rules. It it probably worthwhile to remove these two networks from
/etc/shorewall/rfc1918 if they should still be there.

cheers
Erich

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Re: [leaf-user] Shorewall rfc1918 list

2004-09-23 Thread Erich Titl
Patrick

At 13:34 23.09.2004 +0200, Patrick Benson wrote:
Erich Titl wrote:
 
 Hi everybody
 
 Networks 83.0.0.0 and 84.0.0.0 have been assigned to RIPE last year. In my version 
 (1.4.8) of shorewall these networks are still blocked by the rfc1918 rules. It it 
 probably worthwhile to remove these two networks from /etc/shorewall/rfc1918 if 
 they should still be there.

Erich,

Shorewall 2.0.1 and later uses a file called bogons that lists the IP
ranges reserved by the IANA while the rfc1918 file will only apply to
those three ranges that are reserved by RFC1918 so any up-to-date
modifications that apply to IANA range listings will be found in the
bogons file. 

Another reason to move to Shorewall 2.x, apparently the bogons file has a more recent 
collection of those IP ranges

As I said, I am referring to 1.4.8

Thanks

Erich


http://shorewall.net/pub/shorewall/errata/2.0.8/bogons
http://www.completewhois.com/bogons/


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Re: [leaf-user] Shorewall rfc1918 list

2004-09-23 Thread Tom Eastep
On Thursday 23 September 2004 05:14, Erich Titl wrote:
 Patrick

 At 13:34 23.09.2004 +0200, Patrick Benson wrote:
 Erich Titl wrote:
  Hi everybody
 
  Networks 83.0.0.0 and 84.0.0.0 have been assigned to RIPE last year. In
  my version (1.4.8) of shorewall these networks are still blocked by the
  rfc1918 rules. It it probably worthwhile to remove these two networks
  from /etc/shorewall/rfc1918 if they should still be there.
 
 Erich,
 
 Shorewall 2.0.1 and later uses a file called bogons that lists the IP
 ranges reserved by the IANA while the rfc1918 file will only apply to
 those three ranges that are reserved by RFC1918 so any up-to-date
 modifications that apply to IANA range listings will be found in the
 bogons file.

 Another reason to move to Shorewall 2.x, apparently the bogons file has a
 more recent collection of those IP ranges

 As I said, I am referring to 1.4.8


The 1.4 rfc1918 file and 2.x bogons file are maintained in parallel but users 
still need to download and install the updates.

See the top of http://shorewall.net/errata.htm

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[leaf-user] Re: leaf-user digest, Vol 1 #2427 - 196 msgs

2004-09-23 Thread Paul G Rogers
Today's Topics:

   1. WINSCP dropbear and editing LEAF conf files (Victor McAllister)
   2. RE: WINSCP dropbear and editing LEAF conf files (David Pitts)
   3. Re: editing lrp files in windows (Christian HOSTELET)
...8...
  190. Re: Shorewall rfc1918 list (M Lu)
  191. Re: Shorewall rfc1918 list (Erich Titl)
  192. Re: Shorewall rfc1918 list (M Lu)
  193. Re: Shorewall rfc1918 list (Erich Titl)
  194. Re: Shorewall rfc1918 list (M Lu)
  195. Re: Shorewall rfc1918 list (Erich Titl)
  196. Re: Shorewall rfc1918 list (M Lu)


Fortunately my email client cut the message at 60K.  I hope this was a
one-time aberration.

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[leaf-user] Re: leaf-user digest, Vol 1 #2420 - 7 msgs

2004-09-23 Thread Paul G Rogers
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:47:15 +0100 James Neave
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But simple to start with, a windows or platform independent application
that automates the download, assembly and initial configuration (meaning
the necessary steps from the installation docs) would greatly increase
the accessibility of LEAF for the likes of, well, me.

James.

It's that platform independent part that I anticipated would be
troublesome.  The developers must speak for themselves, but I've gotten
the impression that developers in the Linux community at large would
rather have a root canal than develop software for Windows.  The only
common language between them I can think of might be Java, which in the
Windows environment is sort of stuck in MSIE, for those versions which
provide Java support at all.  ;-)

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[leaf-user] RE: leaf-user digest, Vol 1 #2420 - 7 msgs

2004-09-23 Thread James Neave
 On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:47:15 +0100 James Neave
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 But simple to start with, a windows or platform independent
application
 that automates the download, assembly and initial configuration
(meaning
 the necessary steps from the installation docs) would greatly
increase
 the accessibility of LEAF for the likes of, well, me.
 
 James.
 
 It's that platform independent part that I anticipated would be
 troublesome.  The developers must speak for themselves, but I've
gotten
 the impression that developers in the Linux community at large would
 rather have a root canal than develop software for Windows.  The only
 common language between them I can think of might be Java, which in
the
 Windows environment is sort of stuck in MSIE, for those versions which
 provide Java support at all.  ;-)
 
 Paul Rogers  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

I know, they really hate Windows. *I* really hate windows. But I like
Microsoft's GUI design patterns. If we could just put a decent kernel
behind it...

Well, yes, Java. I believe the *nix dotNET Framework projects are
proceeding nicely, so C# is an option. VS2005 is free and, frankly,
lovely. Whether Project Mono and the like are up to dotNet Framework 2.0
(what exactly was the point of making this wonderful cross platform
standard, giving it to the world and then releasing version 2.0
Microsoft? Did you change your mind?) is another question.

The other option is just to not make a linux configurator, because
people who can use linux don't need a configurator. 

Only thing I think would be a problem, is the decompressing/de-archiving
or the LRPs, updating scripts and the re-archiving/compressing. I
personally don't know of any win32 bzip2 implementations/APIs.

James.


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Re: [leaf-user] RE: leaf-user digest, Vol 1 #2420 - 7 msgs

2004-09-23 Thread K.-P. Kirchdörfer
Am Donnerstag, 23. September 2004 18:00 schrieb James Neave:
 Only thing I think would be a problem, is the
 decompressing/de-archiving or the LRPs, updating scripts and the
 re-archiving/compressing. I personally don't know of any win32
 bzip2 implementations/APIs.

LRP's are tar.gz files not bzip2; 
so you may start programming  - this only problem is solved :)

kp


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[leaf-user] FAQ Periodic Post?

2004-09-23 Thread Mike Noyes
Everyone,
Would someone like to maintain a FAQ for this list? I propose it operate
in a manner similar to a USENET FAQ.

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Re: [leaf-user] editing lrp files in windows

2004-09-23 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
Christian HOSTELET wrote:
On the Windows' side, you can still use PuTTY for secured
telnet sessions, but instead of using PSFTP, you have to use
some SCP client because Dropbear doesn't implement SFTP.
Personally I'm using WinSCP3 (http://winscp.sourceforge.net)
from Martin Prikryl (that let's me remember I've to become a donor :-)
Note that the putty folks also provide pscp (a version of scp), which 
can easily transfer files across an ssh link w/o requiring sftp.

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[leaf-user] I can't backup files in /etc/dnscache/root/servers

2004-09-23 Thread Geoff Nordli
Hello Everyone.

For some reason I can't backup the files that are stored in
/etc/dnscache/root/servers for the dnscache package.  I am not sure why but
the dnscache has an exclusion on that directory.  Even if I remove that
exclusion I still can't backup it up.

Can someone please tell me how to backup those files,

Thanks,



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Re: [leaf-user] I can't backup files in /etc/dnscache/root/servers

2004-09-23 Thread Lynn Avants
On Thursday 23 September 2004 05:27 pm, Geoff Nordli wrote:
 For some reason I can't backup the files that are stored in
 /etc/dnscache/root/servers for the dnscache package.  I am not sure why but
 the dnscache has an exclusion on that directory.  Even if I remove that
 exclusion I still can't backup it up.

 Can someone please tell me how to backup those files,

Try backing up the etc package.
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RE: [leaf-user] I can't backup files in /etc/dnscache/root/servers

2004-09-23 Thread Geoff Nordli
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 On Thursday 23 September 2004 05:27 pm, Geoff Nordli wrote:
 For some reason I can't backup the files that are stored in
 /etc/dnscache/root/servers for the dnscache package.  I am not sure
 why but the dnscache has an exclusion on that directory.  Even if I
 remove that exclusion I still can't backup it up.
 
 Can someone please tell me how to backup those files,
 
 Try backing up the etc package.
 ;)

Thanks Lynn.  I tried backing up the etc package as well and it still didn't
backup it up.

Is that the etc package supposed to backup /etc/dnscache/root/servers
folder.  

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Re: [leaf-user] I can't backup files in /etc/dnscache/root/servers

2004-09-23 Thread Lynn Avants
On Thursday 23 September 2004 08:56 pm, Geoff Nordli wrote:

 Thanks Lynn.  I tried backing up the etc package as well and it still
 didn't backup it up.

 Is that the etc package supposed to backup /etc/dnscache/root/servers
 folder.

Geoff,
The etc package is supposed to catch the files in the /etc folder that don't 
belong (are backed-up) by another package. Sounds like there may be a bug
if the filename exists in the dnscache.exclude list. It's been a while since I 
had to change a server address in dnscache, so there may be another way
of setting the address that I don't remember and you may have missed.
There was a chapter in the Bering Users Manual for setting up dnscache.
I imagine it still exists.
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RE: [leaf-user] I can't backup files in /etc/dnscache/root/servers

2004-09-23 Thread Geoff Nordli
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 On Thursday 23 September 2004 08:56 pm, Geoff Nordli wrote:
 
 Thanks Lynn.  I tried backing up the etc package as well and it
 still didn't backup it up. 
 
 Is that the etc package supposed to backup /etc/dnscache/root/servers
 folder.
 
 Geoff,
 The etc package is supposed to catch the files in the /etc
 folder that don't
 belong (are backed-up) by another package. Sounds like there
 may be a bug
 if the filename exists in the dnscache.exclude list. It's
 been a while since I
 had to change a server address in dnscache, so there may be
 another way
 of setting the address that I don't remember and you may have missed.
 There was a chapter in the Bering Users Manual for setting up
 dnscache. I imagine it still exists.

So are you saying that the etc package backup process parses all the *.list
files in the /var/lib/lrpkg folder to see what files in the etc directory
that it is supposed to backup.

Thanks,

Geoff




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RE: [leaf-user] I can't backup files in /etc/dnscache/root/servers

2004-09-23 Thread Geoff Nordli
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 On Thursday 23 September 2004 08:56 pm, Geoff Nordli wrote:
 
 Thanks Lynn.  I tried backing up the etc package as well and it
 still didn't backup it up. 
 
 Is that the etc package supposed to backup /etc/dnscache/root/servers
 folder.
 
 Geoff,
 The etc package is supposed to catch the files in the /etc
 folder that don't
 belong (are backed-up) by another package. Sounds like there
 may be a bug
 if the filename exists in the dnscache.exclude list. It's
 been a while since I
 had to change a server address in dnscache, so there may be
 another way
 of setting the address that I don't remember and you may have missed.
 There was a chapter in the Bering Users Manual for setting up
 dnscache. I imagine it still exists.

Just to add some more information.  I created an additional file in the same
folder that somehow was successfully backed up, but I have no clue where it
is kept.  I tried doing a tarball listing of the etc, root, dnscache,
tinydns packages and it didn't show up.  So somehow it gets restored when
the machine reboots.

Is it possible that another package will overwrite the entire contents of a
directory during startup?  

Thanks,

Geoff



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Re: [leaf-user] editing lrp files in windows

2004-09-23 Thread Christian HOSTELET

Christian HOSTELET wrote:
On the Windows' side, you can still use PuTTY for secured
telnet sessions, but instead of using PSFTP, you have to use
some SCP client because Dropbear doesn't implement SFTP.
Personally I'm using WinSCP3 (http://winscp.sourceforge.net)
from Martin Prikryl (that let's me remember I've to become a donor :-)
Note that the putty folks also provide pscp (a version of scp), which can 
easily transfer files across an ssh link w/o requiring sftp.

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Charles Steinkuehler
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Yes Charles,
  They are providing a command-line secured cp. But, as here we are
in a Windows context, it seems far less efficient (comfortable ?) than some
gui-enabled tool like WinSCP3. Your miles may vary.
Here again I do not want to start wars between secured server/client 
different
implementations, I was just trying to help Andrew by using my own
experience and describing how I did solve the same problem of not
having a readily available Linux machine but Windows and still being able
to maintain/upgrade my Bering-uClibc box..

Regards
Christian
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