Re: [leaf-user] Congrats

2011-03-27 Thread davidMbrooke
On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 23:25 +0100, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
 Am Samstag, 26. März 2011, um 19:18:56 schrieb Martin Hejl:
  
  Just one question - I need tun.ko for my OpenVPN setup. Is this one of
  the cases where one still needs to add an entry to /etc/modules? It
  didn't get loaded by default, and after I added an entry to
  /etc/modules, things started working, but I'm not sure if there's a
  better way.
  
  Keep up the good work
  
  Martin
 
 Thx Martin!
 
 Yes AFAIK tun.ko is one of the cases where /etc/modules is still needed.
 As you wrote the autodetection is for harwdare modules - and tun.ko isn't a 
 hardware module. At least I do not know a better way, than the one you 
 choosed. (But don't count on me - after eight years using LEAF, I don't 
 change 
 my habits adding modules etc easily, so I may be behind the actual 
 development. The good thing is, that the old habits still works as well :))
 
 Maybe the module autodetection can be improved in the future to add modules 
 needed by packages (that discussion was started some time ago without any 
 results so far) - but then I think there are other, more important, issues 
 yet, like Erichs question what is the canonical way to get rid of the 
 unnecessary modules in initrd? or how to improve architecture-based initrd 
 and moddb building... 
 
 kp

Yes, thanks Martin. All feedback is good, and good feedback is very
good :-)

Andrew gets all the credit for the auto-detection and loading.
kp has it right for tun.ko at the moment. We have some Trac tickets
which would improve matters:

   o http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/leaf/ticket/13 would install
the .ko file for any entry in /etc/modules during auto-detection so
avoiding the need to extract and copy the file manually.

   o http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/leaf/ticket/2 would let us define
and then auto-load Modules required by specific Packages. There is an
outline design in the Trac comments but other enhancements seem more
important right now - like PXE booting and the ones kp mentioned.

dMb


--
Enable your software for Intel(R) Active Management Technology to meet the
growing manageability and security demands of your customers. Businesses
are taking advantage of Intel(R) vPro (TM) technology - will your software 
be a part of the solution? Download the Intel(R) Manageability Checker 
today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmar

leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Support Request -- http://leaf-project.org/


[leaf-user] Congrats

2011-03-26 Thread Martin Hejl
Hi everybody,

since my old Wrap box was starting to die on me, I replaced it with an 
Alix box, and in the process, gave Bering uClibc 4.0 Beta 3 a try.

I have to say, the installation was very smooth. The Find  load 
modules for hardware is _very_ nice, and took away the usual hassle of 
finding out which modules (and dependencies) are needed for getting wlan 
to work (I use an atheros based card, and was a little worried about the 
switch from madwifi to ath5k). But everything worked beautifully, once I 
got rid of the inevitable typos that I'd put into the config.

My setup isn't terribly complicated - cable connection to the internet, 
one internal wired network, one internal wlan net, and an OpenVPN 
connection.

Thanks to all the developers who put this together, and special thanks 
to all those who worked on the docs in the wiki - even if it's not 
complete yet, I think it's the best documentation leaf has ever had.

Just one question - I need tun.ko for my OpenVPN setup. Is this one of 
the cases where one still needs to add an entry to /etc/modules? It 
didn't get loaded by default, and after I added an entry to 
/etc/modules, things started working, but I'm not sure if there's a 
better way.

Keep up the good work

Martin

-- 
I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my phone;
my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my phone
-- Bjarne Stroustrup

--
Enable your software for Intel(R) Active Management Technology to meet the
growing manageability and security demands of your customers. Businesses
are taking advantage of Intel(R) vPro (TM) technology - will your software 
be a part of the solution? Download the Intel(R) Manageability Checker 
today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmar

leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Support Request -- http://leaf-project.org/


Re: [leaf-user] Congrats

2011-03-26 Thread Mike Noyes
On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 19:18 +0100, Martin Hejl wrote:
-snip-
 Thanks to all the developers who put this together,

Andrew, KP, David, etc.
http://leaf.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=leaf/leaf;a=summary

 and special thanks 
 to all those who worked on the docs in the wiki - even if it's not 
 complete yet, I think it's the best documentation leaf has ever had.

Agreed. Andrew, KP, and David did an outstanding job with the wiki.

http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/leaf/

-- 
Mike Noyes 
http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes
http://www.google.com/profiles/mhnoyes


--
Enable your software for Intel(R) Active Management Technology to meet the
growing manageability and security demands of your customers. Businesses
are taking advantage of Intel(R) vPro (TM) technology - will your software 
be a part of the solution? Download the Intel(R) Manageability Checker 
today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmar

leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Support Request -- http://leaf-project.org/


Re: [leaf-user] Congrats

2011-03-26 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Am Samstag, 26. März 2011, um 19:18:56 schrieb Martin Hejl:
 Hi everybody,
 
 since my old Wrap box was starting to die on me, I replaced it with an
 Alix box, and in the process, gave Bering uClibc 4.0 Beta 3 a try.
 
 I have to say, the installation was very smooth. The Find  load
 modules for hardware is _very_ nice, and took away the usual hassle of
 finding out which modules (and dependencies) are needed for getting wlan
 to work (I use an atheros based card, and was a little worried about the
 switch from madwifi to ath5k). But everything worked beautifully, once I
 got rid of the inevitable typos that I'd put into the config.
 
 My setup isn't terribly complicated - cable connection to the internet,
 one internal wired network, one internal wlan net, and an OpenVPN
 connection.
 
 Thanks to all the developers who put this together, and special thanks
 to all those who worked on the docs in the wiki - even if it's not
 complete yet, I think it's the best documentation leaf has ever had.
 
 Just one question - I need tun.ko for my OpenVPN setup. Is this one of
 the cases where one still needs to add an entry to /etc/modules? It
 didn't get loaded by default, and after I added an entry to
 /etc/modules, things started working, but I'm not sure if there's a
 better way.
 
 Keep up the good work
 
 Martin

Thx Martin!

Yes AFAIK tun.ko is one of the cases where /etc/modules is still needed.
As you wrote the autodetection is for harwdare modules - and tun.ko isn't a 
hardware module. At least I do not know a better way, than the one you 
choosed. (But don't count on me - after eight years using LEAF, I don't change 
my habits adding modules etc easily, so I may be behind the actual 
development. The good thing is, that the old habits still works as well :))

Maybe the module autodetection can be improved in the future to add modules 
needed by packages (that discussion was started some time ago without any 
results so far) - but then I think there are other, more important, issues 
yet, like Erichs question what is the canonical way to get rid of the 
unnecessary modules in initrd? or how to improve architecture-based initrd 
and moddb building... 

kp

--
Enable your software for Intel(R) Active Management Technology to meet the
growing manageability and security demands of your customers. Businesses
are taking advantage of Intel(R) vPro (TM) technology - will your software 
be a part of the solution? Download the Intel(R) Manageability Checker 
today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmar

leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Support Request -- http://leaf-project.org/