Re: [leaf-user] diskwait continuing
Charles Steinkuehler wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joep Blom wrote: Charles, Thanks for your reply. I haven't looked at the code as I could solved it using diskwait the way it was intended. I think however to use an USB-stick with the packages as the old system I use has an USB (1.1) interface. However it's not that modern that you can boot from it so I have to do something with first installing th USB-drivers and LINUXRC from floppy and then loading the packages from /dev/usb0.When it works like I want I will mention it to the list as another method to install a leaf firewall.. This should be fairly straight-forward...just grab the kernel and initial ramdisk images from the USB Bering release and load them with syslinux on your floppy. The kernel won't care *HOW* it got loaded into memory (ie: via floppy, usb-stick, or alpha-particle radiation :), and once loaded will happily start talking directly to your USB controller (and hence to your attached USB media). - -- Charles Steinkuehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEjd9MLywbqEHdNFwRAkkHAJwIWB4/2dvXPKY7UKCLMyXuLmT7owCgmQIL J6IO+mtq9uCfYvK24nVKDrA= =tToL -END PGP SIGNATURE- leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user Support Request -- http://leaf-project.org/ Charles, Thanks! That's a good idea. I was wondering how I could implement it but is is already been done. I'll try it as soon as I have solved a little problem with my service provider. Joep leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user Support Request -- http://leaf-project.org/
Re: [leaf-user] diskwait continuing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joep Blom wrote: Hi, Eric, I have played somewhat with diskwait and I have some problems with it. First, diskwait=yes works in syslinux.cfg but in leaf.cfg you need to use KMCD_diskwait=yes. Furthermore, I had the idea that diskwait looked first at the original disk and when it didn't find any packages than asked for the second disk and if this was not sufficient it did it again until all packages were loaded. I tested diskwait the following way: On the first disk I have the necessary files + root,lrp and libcrpto.lrp as they are large. This disk is 1.34 MB. On the second disk I have the rest which is 1.45 MB. diskwait in syslinux gave: insert 2nd disk immediately after starting LINUXRC. I then tried diskwait in leaf.cfg but that didn't work. I then set KMCD_diskwait in leaf before the LRP= line(s). That gave the same result as diskwait in syslinux.cfg. Setting KMCD_diskwait after the LRP= line didn't do anything ( and was skipped in the parsing of the leaf.cfg script). I therefore have a problem as I want to load all packages together. Of course I can install packages later and copying them from another system but I think that a solution to load Bering_uclib using multiple floppies with packages would be very welcome. USB could be a solution but old systems (often used for firewalls) do miss then. Hope you can help me out.. . It's been a *LONG* time since I looked at the diskwait code, but IIRC, the functionality you're describing is what it was setup to do (ie: load the kernel and initial ramdisk (AKA: root.lrp) from the first floppy, then load packages from the second disk). I don't think anyone's implemented support for what you seem to want (ie: load some packages off the first disk, then wait for a diskchange and load more packages). It ought to be fairly easy to implement, however, with a fake package name that caused the init scripts to wait for you to swap disks. You'd have to manually insure proper package order in syslinux/leaf.cfg. Make sure you unmount (and re-mount) the floppy before asking the user to swap it, however! - -- Charles Steinkuehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEjXthLywbqEHdNFwRAnByAJ4+6B/hd0fa9CZI6AnCFBO4OHukUQCg3Xfx ceGe9R2u2SBzZpyn/TEbs2k= =u3Qa -END PGP SIGNATURE- leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user Support Request -- http://leaf-project.org/
Re: [leaf-user] diskwait continuing
Charles Steinkuehler wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joep Blom wrote: It's been a *LONG* time since I looked at the diskwait code, but IIRC, the functionality you're describing is what it was setup to do (ie: load the kernel and initial ramdisk (AKA: root.lrp) from the first floppy, then load packages from the second disk). I don't think anyone's implemented support for what you seem to want (ie: load some packages off the first disk, then wait for a diskchange and load more packages). It ought to be fairly easy to implement, however, with a fake package name that caused the init scripts to wait for you to swap disks. You'd have to manually insure proper package order in syslinux/leaf.cfg. Make sure you unmount (and re-mount) the floppy before asking the user to swap it, however! - -- Charles Steinkuehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEjXthLywbqEHdNFwRAnByAJ4+6B/hd0fa9CZI6AnCFBO4OHukUQCg3Xfx ceGe9R2u2SBzZpyn/TEbs2k= =u3Qa -END PGP SIGNATURE- leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user Support Request -- http://leaf-project.org/ Charles, Thanks for your reply. I haven't looked at the code as I could solved it using diskwait the way it was intended. I think however to use an USB-stick with the packages as the old system I use has an USB (1.1) interface. However it's not that modern that you can boot from it so I have to do something with first installing th USB-drivers and LINUXRC from floppy and then loading the packages from /dev/usb0.When it works like I want I will mention it to the list as another method to install a leaf firewall.. Joep. leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user Support Request -- http://leaf-project.org/
Re: [leaf-user] diskwait continuing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joep Blom wrote: Charles, Thanks for your reply. I haven't looked at the code as I could solved it using diskwait the way it was intended. I think however to use an USB-stick with the packages as the old system I use has an USB (1.1) interface. However it's not that modern that you can boot from it so I have to do something with first installing th USB-drivers and LINUXRC from floppy and then loading the packages from /dev/usb0.When it works like I want I will mention it to the list as another method to install a leaf firewall.. This should be fairly straight-forward...just grab the kernel and initial ramdisk images from the USB Bering release and load them with syslinux on your floppy. The kernel won't care *HOW* it got loaded into memory (ie: via floppy, usb-stick, or alpha-particle radiation :), and once loaded will happily start talking directly to your USB controller (and hence to your attached USB media). - -- Charles Steinkuehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEjd9MLywbqEHdNFwRAkkHAJwIWB4/2dvXPKY7UKCLMyXuLmT7owCgmQIL J6IO+mtq9uCfYvK24nVKDrA= =tToL -END PGP SIGNATURE- leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user Support Request -- http://leaf-project.org/
[leaf-user] diskwait continuing
Hi, Eric, I have played somewhat with diskwait and I have some problems with it. First, diskwait=yes works in syslinux.cfg but in leaf.cfg you need to use KMCD_diskwait=yes. Furthermore, I had the idea that diskwait looked first at the original disk and when it didn't find any packages than asked for the second disk and if this was not sufficient it did it again until all packages were loaded. I tested diskwait the following way: On the first disk I have the necessary files + root,lrp and libcrpto.lrp as they are large. This disk is 1.34 MB. On the second disk I have the rest which is 1.45 MB. diskwait in syslinux gave: insert 2nd disk immediately after starting LINUXRC. I then tried diskwait in leaf.cfg but that didn't work. I then set KMCD_diskwait in leaf before the LRP= line(s). That gave the same result as diskwait in syslinux.cfg. Setting KMCD_diskwait after the LRP= line didn't do anything ( and was skipped in the parsing of the leaf.cfg script). I therefore have a problem as I want to load all packages together. Of course I can install packages later and copying them from another system but I think that a solution to load Bering_uclib using multiple floppies with packages would be very welcome. USB could be a solution but old systems (often used for firewalls) do miss then. Hope you can help me out.. . Joep leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user Support Request -- http://leaf-project.org/
Re: [leaf-user] diskwait continuing
Hello Joep, I hardly have any experience with the diskwait command, AFAIK this specific code didn't change since it was introduced in Dachstein years ago. I hope someone on this list which actually uses this feature can tell something more about it. I think it's primary goal was to support a rescue disk, looking at the code it doesn't seem to be possible to get the functionality you are looking after. What is possible is to use a second floppy drive and add both device in the PKGPATH, this way all packages from both floppies are loaded. Eric Hi, Eric, I have played somewhat with diskwait and I have some problems with it. First, diskwait=yes works in syslinux.cfg but in leaf.cfg you need to use KMCD_diskwait=yes. Furthermore, I had the idea that diskwait looked first at the original disk and when it didn't find any packages than asked for the second disk and if this was not sufficient it did it again until all packages were loaded. I tested diskwait the following way: On the first disk I have the necessary files + root,lrp and libcrpto.lrp as they are large. This disk is 1.34 MB. On the second disk I have the rest which is 1.45 MB. diskwait in syslinux gave: insert 2nd disk immediately after starting LINUXRC. I then tried diskwait in leaf.cfg but that didn't work. I then set KMCD_diskwait in leaf before the LRP= line(s). That gave the same result as diskwait in syslinux.cfg. Setting KMCD_diskwait after the LRP= line didn't do anything ( and was skipped in the parsing of the leaf.cfg script). I therefore have a problem as I want to load all packages together. Of course I can install packages later and copying them from another system but I think that a solution to load Bering_uclib using multiple floppies with packages would be very welcome. USB could be a solution but old systems (often used for firewalls) do miss then. Hope you can help me out.. . Joep leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user Support Request -- http://leaf-project.org/ leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user Support Request -- http://leaf-project.org/
Re: [leaf-user] diskwait
On Sat, 2006-06-03 at 07:48, Joep Blom wrote: I want to use the old fashioned floppy but in the single-floppy-multiple-diskway. (actually multiple=2). The system is much too old for more modern things like USB-sticks. Originally we had the command diskwait=yes but is that supported in the current version of Bering-uclib? It had to be set in syslinux.cfg. Something like: default linux initrd=initrd.lrp init=/linuxrc re root=/dev/ram0 LEAFCFG=/dev/fd0u1680 diskwait=yes Joep, These two google strings may provide you with the information you desire: site:leaf.sourceforge.net inurl:doc diskwait site:leaf.sourceforge.net inurl:doc multiple floppies -- Mike Noyes mhnoyes at users.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes/ SF.net Projects: leaf, phpwebsite, phpwebsite-comm, sitedocs leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user Support Request -- http://leaf-project.org/
Re: [leaf-user] diskwait
Op Zo, 4 juni, 2006 12:56 am schreef Joep Blom: Eric Spakman wrote: Hello Joep, Yes, that is still supported. From the linuxrc file: snip Eric, Thanks. I'll follow your example to the letter as it's quite different as it was before. I assume it has to be set in syslinux.cfg. Where can I find a description of the command structure as used in syslinux? Joep Please don't, it was a snippet from the source to show how it is supported. It should be enough to just set diskwait=yes in syslinux.cfg or leaf.cfg. Eric leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user Support Request -- http://leaf-project.org/
Re: [leaf-user] diskwait
Mike Noyes wrote: On Sat, 2006-06-03 at 07:48, Joep Blom wrote: I want to use the old fashioned floppy but in the single-floppy-multiple-diskway. (actually multiple=2). The system is much too old for more modern things like USB-sticks. Originally we had the command diskwait=yes but is that supported in the current version of Bering-uclib? It had to be set in syslinux.cfg. Something like: default linux initrd=initrd.lrp init=/linuxrc re root=/dev/ram0 LEAFCFG=/dev/fd0u1680 diskwait=yes Joep, These two google strings may provide you with the information you desire: site:leaf.sourceforge.net inurl:doc diskwait site:leaf.sourceforge.net inurl:doc multiple floppies Mike thanks. I know it exists but I didn't know it works also in the new setup as the current method with a syslinux.cfg (as old) and a leaf.cfg instead of a lrcfg.cfg maybe didn't support it. I am very cautious when upgrading my Leaf firewall as several times it failed with a 'kernel panic' message and no clue what the reason was (therefore I still work with 2.1!). But now I'll try again but restoring my old settings is a lot of work. Joep leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user Support Request -- http://leaf-project.org/
Re: [leaf-user] diskwait
Eric Spakman wrote: Op Zo, 4 juni, 2006 12:56 am schreef Joep Blom: Eric Spakman wrote: Hello Joep, Yes, that is still supported. From the linuxrc file: snip Eric, Thanks. I'll follow your example to the letter as it's quite different as it was before. I assume it has to be set in syslinux.cfg. Where can I find a description of the command structure as used in syslinux? Joep Please don't, it was a snippet from the source to show how it is supported. It should be enough to just set diskwait=yes in syslinux.cfg or leaf.cfg. Eric Yes, thanks for your advice. After I wrote the e-mail, I realized that it couldn't be part of a configuration file. But it was already late..): Joep leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user Support Request -- http://leaf-project.org/
[leaf-user] diskwait
Hi, I want to use the old fashioned floppy but in the single-floppy-multiple-diskway. (actually multiple=2). The system is much too old for more modern things like USB-sticks. Originally we had the command diskwait=yes but is that supported in the current version of Bering-uclib? It had to be set in syslinux.cfg. Something like: default linux initrd=initrd.lrp init=/linuxrc re root=/dev/ram0 LEAFCFG=/dev/fd0u1680 diskwait=yes Thanks, Joep leaf-user mailing list: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user Support Request -- http://leaf-project.org/
