Re: [leaf-user] gkrellm

2010-02-10 Thread Joep L. Blom
Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
 On 2/9/2010 2:20 AM, Joep L. Blom wrote:

 While gkrellm does have a server and client component, it seems mainly
 geared towards desktop type systems with both the client and server
 running on the same machine.
 
 For remote monitoring of something like a LEAF firewall, I would suggest
 SNMP (on the firewall), with the monitoring application of your choice
 running elsewhere to gather statistics.  Typical options would be things
 like MRTG, Cacti, OpenNMS in the open source world:
 
 http://oss.oetiker.ch/mrtg/
 http://www.cacti.net/
 http://www.opennms.org/
 
 ...although there are *MANY* other free and proprietary options
 available as well.
 
 In addition to monitoring your firewall, an SNMP based monitoring
 solution can also gather data from your switches and various other
 network infrastructure components if they have SNMP support (which is
 becoming more and more common, even on lower-end hardware).
 

Charles,
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. However, gkrellm gives the possibility 
to gather datat from remote systems by running there the daemon, whicg 
gathers the data presented by lmsensors.
If one used SNMP then a daemon process must run that presents the data 
using th SNMP protocol, just as the gkrellm daemon presents the data in 
its own protocol (Idon't know what they use).
Maybe it is easy to write a simple daemon process with uclib but that is 
beyond my capabilities.
Joep

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Re: [leaf-user] gkrellm

2010-02-10 Thread Paolo Scarabelli
Hi Joep,

There is a snmp plugin for gkrell, you can install the snmp daemon on the 
firewall as suggested by Charles  and monitor it with the gkrell client.

Have a nice day,

Paolo

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From: Joep L. Blom jlb...@neuroweave.nl
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:21:16 
To: Charles Steinkuehlerchar...@steinkuehler.net
Cc: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [leaf-user] gkrellm

Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
 On 2/9/2010 2:20 AM, Joep L. Blom wrote:

 While gkrellm does have a server and client component, it seems mainly
 geared towards desktop type systems with both the client and server
 running on the same machine.
 
 For remote monitoring of something like a LEAF firewall, I would suggest
 SNMP (on the firewall), with the monitoring application of your choice
 running elsewhere to gather statistics.  Typical options would be things
 like MRTG, Cacti, OpenNMS in the open source world:
 
 http://oss.oetiker.ch/mrtg/
 http://www.cacti.net/
 http://www.opennms.org/
 
 ...although there are *MANY* other free and proprietary options
 available as well.
 
 In addition to monitoring your firewall, an SNMP based monitoring
 solution can also gather data from your switches and various other
 network infrastructure components if they have SNMP support (which is
 becoming more and more common, even on lower-end hardware).
 

Charles,
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. However, gkrellm gives the possibility 
to gather datat from remote systems by running there the daemon, whicg 
gathers the data presented by lmsensors.
If one used SNMP then a daemon process must run that presents the data 
using th SNMP protocol, just as the gkrellm daemon presents the data in 
its own protocol (Idon't know what they use).
Maybe it is easy to write a simple daemon process with uclib but that is 
beyond my capabilities.
Joep

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Re: [leaf-user] gkrellm

2010-02-10 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
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On 2/10/2010 5:21 AM, Joep L. Blom wrote:
 If one used SNMP then a daemon process must run that presents the data 
 using th SNMP protocol, just as the gkrellm daemon presents the data in 
 its own protocol (Idon't know what they use).
 Maybe it is easy to write a simple daemon process with uclib but that is 
 beyond my capabilities.

Netsnmpd is already packaged for pretty much all the LEAF versions,
including Bering uClibc 2.x and 3.x.  There is no need to write your own
daemon.

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Re: [leaf-user] gkrellm

2010-02-10 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 11:55 +, Paolo Scarabelli wrote:
 Hi Joep,
 There is a snmp plugin for gkrell, you can install the snmp daemon on
 the firewall as suggested by Charles  and monitor it with the gkrell
 client.

Joep,
Palo is correct. See

gkrellm-snmp
http://packages.debian.org/lenny/gkrellm-snmp

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Re: [leaf-user] gkrellm

2010-02-10 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 12:21 +0100, Joep L. Blom wrote:
 Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
  On 2/9/2010 2:20 AM, Joep L. Blom wrote:
 
  While gkrellm does have a server and client component, it seems mainly
  geared towards desktop type systems with both the client and server
  running on the same machine.
  
  For remote monitoring of something like a LEAF firewall, I would suggest
  SNMP (on the firewall), with the monitoring application of your choice
  running elsewhere to gather statistics.  Typical options would be things
  like MRTG, Cacti, OpenNMS in the open source world:
  
  http://oss.oetiker.ch/mrtg/
  http://www.cacti.net/
  http://www.opennms.org/
  
  ...although there are *MANY* other free and proprietary options
  available as well.
  
  In addition to monitoring your firewall, an SNMP based monitoring
  solution can also gather data from your switches and various other
  network infrastructure components if they have SNMP support (which is
  becoming more and more common, even on lower-end hardware).
  
 
 Charles,
 Thanks for your thoughtful reply. However, gkrellm gives the possibility 
 to gather datat from remote systems by running there the daemon, whicg 
 gathers the data presented by lmsensors.
 If one used SNMP then a daemon process must run that presents the data 
 using th SNMP protocol, just as the gkrellm daemon presents the data in 
 its own protocol (Idon't know what they use).
 Maybe it is easy to write a simple daemon process with uclib but that is 
 beyond my capabilities.
 Joep

Joep,
Maybe that's not necessary. See

GKrellm SNMP Monitor 
http://freshmeat.net/projects/gkrellmsnmp/

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Re: [leaf-user] gkrellm

2010-02-10 Thread Joep L. Blom
Paolo Scarabelli wrote:
 Hi Joep,
 
 There is a snmp plugin for gkrell, you can install the snmp daemon on the 
 firewall as suggested by Charles  and monitor it with the gkrell client.
 
 Have a nice day,
 
 Paolo
 
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 From: Joep L. Blom jlb...@neuroweave.nl
 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:21:16 
 To: Charles Steinkuehlerchar...@steinkuehler.net
 Cc: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [leaf-user] gkrellm
 
 Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
 On 2/9/2010 2:20 AM, Joep L. Blom wrote:
 
 While gkrellm does have a server and client component, it seems mainly
 geared towards desktop type systems with both the client and server
 running on the same machine.

 For remote monitoring of something like a LEAF firewall, I would suggest
 SNMP (on the firewall), with the monitoring application of your choice
 running elsewhere to gather statistics.  Typical options would be things
 like MRTG, Cacti, OpenNMS in the open source world:

 http://oss.oetiker.ch/mrtg/
 http://www.cacti.net/
 http://www.opennms.org/

 ...although there are *MANY* other free and proprietary options
 available as well.

 In addition to monitoring your firewall, an SNMP based monitoring
 solution can also gather data from your switches and various other
 network infrastructure components if they have SNMP support (which is
 becoming more and more common, even on lower-end hardware).

 
 Charles,
 Thanks for your thoughtful reply. However, gkrellm gives the possibility 
 to gather datat from remote systems by running there the daemon, whicg 
 gathers the data presented by lmsensors.
 If one used SNMP then a daemon process must run that presents the data 
 using th SNMP protocol, just as the gkrellm daemon presents the data in 
 its own protocol (Idon't know what they use).
 Maybe it is easy to write a simple daemon process with uclib but that is 
 beyond my capabilities.
 Joep
 
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Paolo and charles thanks! I will surely install it and let you know the 
results.
Joep
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Re: [leaf-user] gkrellm

2010-02-09 Thread Joep L. Blom
Bodo Meissner wrote:
 Joep L. Blom wrote:
 KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
 have you looked into sensors.lrp? 
 And if so, whats the difference to gkrellm?

 It is simply that gkrellmd (the server variant) 
 collects the data from sensors.lrp (I have that running) and it can be 
 read by my workstation.
 
 That means you would only need the daemon part on the leaf box, not the GUI.
 Even this seems to be a bit difficult, because gkrellmd uses glib and maybe 
 also GTK library.
 
 
 Bodo

Bodo,
Thanks for your reply.
 From that I realize that it maybe needs to transfer the glib library to 
   the uclib environment. I don't have any idea how difficult that is. 
However it may be worthwhile as firewalls shrink (physically!) and are 
stored at less accessible places (cupboards, etc.) and mostly controlled 
remotely (at least mine is). It would be nice if you could control the 
health of that system remotely.
Joep

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Re: [leaf-user] gkrellm

2010-02-09 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
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On 2/9/2010 2:20 AM, Joep L. Blom wrote:
 Bodo Meissner wrote:
 Joep L. Blom wrote:
 KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
 have you looked into sensors.lrp? 
 And if so, whats the difference to gkrellm?

 It is simply that gkrellmd (the server variant) 
 collects the data from sensors.lrp (I have that running) and it can be 
 read by my workstation.

 That means you would only need the daemon part on the leaf box, not the GUI.
 Even this seems to be a bit difficult, because gkrellmd uses glib and maybe 
 also GTK library.


 Bodo
 
 Bodo,
 Thanks for your reply.
  From that I realize that it maybe needs to transfer the glib library to 
the uclib environment. I don't have any idea how difficult that is. 
 However it may be worthwhile as firewalls shrink (physically!) and are 
 stored at less accessible places (cupboards, etc.) and mostly controlled 
 remotely (at least mine is). It would be nice if you could control the 
 health of that system remotely.

While gkrellm does have a server and client component, it seems mainly
geared towards desktop type systems with both the client and server
running on the same machine.

For remote monitoring of something like a LEAF firewall, I would suggest
SNMP (on the firewall), with the monitoring application of your choice
running elsewhere to gather statistics.  Typical options would be things
like MRTG, Cacti, OpenNMS in the open source world:

http://oss.oetiker.ch/mrtg/
http://www.cacti.net/
http://www.opennms.org/

...although there are *MANY* other free and proprietary options
available as well.

In addition to monitoring your firewall, an SNMP based monitoring
solution can also gather data from your switches and various other
network infrastructure components if they have SNMP support (which is
becoming more and more common, even on lower-end hardware).

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Re: [leaf-user] gkrellm

2010-02-08 Thread Bodo Meissner
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Joep L. Blom wrote:
 KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:

 have you looked into sensors.lrp? 
 And if so, whats the difference to gkrellm?

 It is simply that gkrellmd (the server variant) 
 collects the data from sensors.lrp (I have that running) and it can be 
 read by my workstation.

That means you would only need the daemon part on the leaf box, not the GUI.
Even this seems to be a bit difficult, because gkrellmd uses glib and maybe 
also GTK library.


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[leaf-user] gkrellm

2010-01-31 Thread Joep L. Blom
Hi,
It's a long time since I called upon this list as Leaf is the most quiet 
system it runs on a stand system in my network and is so quiet you tend 
to forget it is there (until you look in the log!).
As it is so unobtrusive, it is easy to forget, even when something 
threatens to go wrong (e.g. a fan that stops).
I therefore wonder if anybody has taken the effort to port gkrellmd to 
the leaf package so you can monitor it from another station on 
temperature, fans, etc.
If anybody knows something about it I would very much like to hear.
Thanks in advance,
Joep

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Re: [leaf-user] gkrellm

2010-01-31 Thread Joep L. Blom
KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
 Am Sonntag, 31. Januar 2010 16:01:44 schrieb Joep L. Blom:
 Hi,
 It's a long time since I called upon this list as Leaf is the most quiet
 system it runs on a stand system in my network and is so quiet you tend
 to forget it is there (until you look in the log!).
 As it is so unobtrusive, it is easy to forget, even when something
 threatens to go wrong (e.g. a fan that stops).
 I therefore wonder if anybody has taken the effort to port gkrellmd to
 the leaf package so you can monitor it from another station on
 temperature, fans, etc.
 If anybody knows something about it I would very much like to hear.
 
 Joep;
 
 have you looked into sensors.lrp? 
 And if so, whats the difference to gkrellm?
 
 kp
 
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kp,
Thanks for your reply. It is simply that gkrellmd (the server variant) 
collects the data from sensors.lrp (I have that running) and it can be 
read by my workstation. Sensors.lrp displays it only locally (of course 
you can ssh int the Leaf-server and read the sensors). I need it on my 
central console (I monitor several systems that way).
Joep


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[leaf-user] gkrellm

2004-04-01 Thread Joep Blom
I recently discoverd this little gem, gKrellm. It is a graphical tool to
monitor your system essentials but uses not much resources.
Ther is a server version gkrellmd which runs on a system an can sent
system information to another system to ber monitored.
As I use Behring already since 2 years, recently switched to the uclib
version and like to monitor this remote system, I would like to install
this little program.
However, it isn't compiled using uclib therefore it wont run.
At this moment I don;t have the time to compile it myself, due to
obligations to other tasks. I wonder if anybody has the same needs and
has the time to recompile the source. It can be found at 
http://web.wt.net/~billw/gkrellm/gkrellm.html
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