Re: RAS hits the news

2005-09-21 Thread M. Warner Losh
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Steve Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: In my understanding the GPS system
: itself handles leap seconds pretty well, almost optimally.

One could say that GPS handles them perfectly, in that they do not
exist at all in the GPS time scale.  However, GPS' propigation of the
GPS UTC offset leaves much to be desired.  That data is sent in the
alminac, which takes at least 20 minutes to down when a reciever is
started "cold"[*].

Although you know the GPS time to within a few tens of nanos as soon
as you have 4 satellites, you have to wait another 20 minutes after
that to know UTC time if you are coming up cold.

One can debate the meaning of 'almost optimally' til the cows come
home, but my views lean away from such a characterization...

Warner

[*] The definition of cold varies from receiver to receiver, but all
of them necessarily have a cold state (turn it off for a year, and it
is guaranteed to be cold in that it can't possibly know the leap
second values).


RAS hits the news

2005-09-21 Thread Steve Allen
The UK Royal Astronomical Society just made a splash with the first
profesional press release in this entire process.
http://www.ras.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=830&Itemid=2

The wireservices have all picked up the story, but most are just
excerpting from the RAS release.

This one has the most attempt to analyze the underlying problems, but
the analysis does not seem right.  In my understanding the GPS system
itself handles leap seconds pretty well, almost optimally.
It's some receivers which have difficulties.
http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=1975362005

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