Re: Automatically Credit an Account
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca wrote: On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 4:23 AM, Jostein Berntsen jber...@broadpark.no wrote: This sounds like a great feature. Can you give an example on how it works? Sure. I attached an example input file (input.beancount). Run it like this: bean-query input.beancount print This says: parse input.beancount and produce the 'print' report. You should see output like print.beancount (also in attachment). I'm still improving it; for transactions with non-trivial balances, I want to spit out comments next to each posting that explicitly state which amounts are used in the balance calculation. Also, price entries that are currently implicitly derived from positions with prices (e.g., @ ...) will be generated instead as explicit price entries being inserted in the flow of entries, by a stage that runs after parsing. I manually edited the output to give you an idea of what that will look like (attachment: print-future.beancount, diff it with print.beancount). Both improvements are now implemented. Printing entries shows you the amount that is used for balancing the entry, and the price directives that used to be implicitly derived from postings with prices are now generated explicitly in a first step, so they appear in the printed list. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Automatically Credit an Account
On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 7:32:22 AM UTC+2, Martin Blais wrote: On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:55 PM, Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca javascript: wrote: Why don't you build a tool for printing out the result of these rule-based modifications? Do you think that would be useful? Is it possible? I see a lot of questions like: Why doesn't my rule such and such work? I see unexpected results in the register. If Ledger had a command to expand everything, and print the expanded results, all of these questions would be easily answered by inspecting what it's doing, no? Is that easy to implement? Just an idea. I'm building something exactly like that for Beancount, to help in debugging plugins, which are essentially functions that transform a list of entries in arbitrary ways, into a new, modified list of entries. One should be able to diff the files and round-trip between data-structure to text and back. Actually, I just completed support for round-trips tonight (I had been writing comparison code lately in order to make it easier to write tests by writing a list of expected transactions in the input syntax itself, so it was a-propos). This means that Beancount can now read a complete ledger file, spit it back out in text, and re-reading that output generates the same data structures in memory. Writing that re-read structure out again to a second file also shows no file diff against the first output to text, it's identical. I tested this on my gigantic personal ledger of 8 years, and it passes clean. I'll add a new report type called print shortly, which will just spit out the data structure it read in memory back to text, after running all the transformations (e.g. automatically setting the amounts on postings, processing the tag directives, adding price entries for postings at a price, and whatever else the plugins do). This should be a nice debugging tool in the future, as it reflects what it does, e.g., what was automatically generated by the syntax shortcuts. This sounds like a great feature. Can you give an example on how it works? Jostein -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Automatically Credit an Account
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 4:23 AM, Jostein Berntsen jber...@broadpark.no wrote: On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 7:32:22 AM UTC+2, Martin Blais wrote: On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:55 PM, Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca wrote: Why don't you build a tool for printing out the result of these rule-based modifications? Do you think that would be useful? Is it possible? I see a lot of questions like: Why doesn't my rule such and such work? I see unexpected results in the register. If Ledger had a command to expand everything, and print the expanded results, all of these questions would be easily answered by inspecting what it's doing, no? Is that easy to implement? Just an idea. I'm building something exactly like that for Beancount, to help in debugging plugins, which are essentially functions that transform a list of entries in arbitrary ways, into a new, modified list of entries. One should be able to diff the files and round-trip between data-structure to text and back. Actually, I just completed support for round-trips tonight (I had been writing comparison code lately in order to make it easier to write tests by writing a list of expected transactions in the input syntax itself, so it was a-propos). This means that Beancount can now read a complete ledger file, spit it back out in text, and re-reading that output generates the same data structures in memory. Writing that re-read structure out again to a second file also shows no file diff against the first output to text, it's identical. I tested this on my gigantic personal ledger of 8 years, and it passes clean. I'll add a new report type called print shortly, which will just spit out the data structure it read in memory back to text, after running all the transformations (e.g. automatically setting the amounts on postings, processing the tag directives, adding price entries for postings at a price, and whatever else the plugins do). This should be a nice debugging tool in the future, as it reflects what it does, e.g., what was automatically generated by the syntax shortcuts. This sounds like a great feature. Can you give an example on how it works? Sure. I attached an example input file (input.beancount). Run it like this: bean-query input.beancount print This says: parse input.beancount and produce the 'print' report. You should see output like print.beancount (also in attachment). I'm still improving it; for transactions with non-trivial balances, I want to spit out comments next to each posting that explicitly state which amounts are used in the balance calculation. Also, price entries that are currently implicitly derived from positions with prices (e.g., @ ...) will be generated instead as explicit price entries being inserted in the flow of entries, by a stage that runs after parsing. I manually edited the output to give you an idea of what that will look like (attachment: print-future.beancount, diff it with print.beancount). Much of the Beancount operations can be expressed as transformations that accept 3 arguments: (a list of entries/directives records, a list of errors, and a map of options), and output the same tuple, but with entries and errors modified (you can generates new entries or modify existing ones). It's a functional approach, using mostly immutable data, which makes it very easy to understand. As I'm teasing more and more of the complexity out of it, I'm discovering that I can even do much of the processing using these stages: https://hg.furius.ca/public/beancount/file/ece44b933ec8/src/python/beancount/loader.py#l62 I'm basically 1) parsing, 2) running transformations, and 3) checking some invariants. Reports are generated from the resulting list of directives. Filtering (e.g. year=2014) is simply another stage that lets through a subset of the entries - all the reports work on a filtered list of entries too. User plugins are simply functions that accept the three inputs and output a modified version of those (you can do anything you want, as long as some basic invariants are maintained). So basically, the print report just spits out the list of entries after the transformations and validation. If you're working on some idea for a transformation, say, adding support for forecasting entries: https://hg.furius.ca/public/beancount/file/ece44b933ec8/src/python/beancount/plugins/forecast.py#l32 you can now write a simple input file and use bean-query input.beancount print to see what your transformation actually does, great for debugging. Comparison routines that compare two lists of entries are available from the testing support libraries, and because of the round-trip capability, you can now just inspect the output, and if it's right, cut-n-paste the input and output text into a unit test to specify a list of expected entries from a transformation (!). Makes writing unit tests a breeze (which was my goal when I started down that path recently). I did not set out for the printer to have this
Re: Automatically Credit an Account
On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 12:42:50 AM UTC+2, b0ef wrote: Jostein Berntsen jbe...@broadpark.no javascript: writes: This seems to work for me: = /Assets:1500/ Assets:Total 1 Income:3010 -1 2014-06-02 foo Assets:1500:foo:101011337 Assets:Total 2014-06-03 foo Assets:1500:foo:201015100 Assets:Total That's because you're doing something totally different. If you look at my example, I only have one line in each transaction. I don't want to write, ie Assets:Total 15 brazillion times. Then you can do something like this: bucket Income:3010 2014-06-02 foo Assets:1500:foo:101011337 2014-06-03 foo Assets:1500:foo:201015100 ledger -f ~/Documents/Finans/testing/test.dat bal 6437 Assets:1500:foo 133710101 510020101 -6437 Income:3010 0 Jostein -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Automatically Credit an Account
Jostein Berntsen jber...@broadpark.no writes: Then you can do something like this: bucket Income:3010 Now that's what I'm talking about;) Hehe, that's excellent. I just placed the bucket statement in the top of my file and it's working Found it in the manual also. Really great; thanks. I should probably put these income files in a different file, so as to not auto balance any other transaction. -- Esben Stien is b0ef@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Automatically Credit an Account
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:55 PM, Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca wrote: Why don't you build a tool for printing out the result of these rule-based modifications? Do you think that would be useful? Is it possible? I see a lot of questions like: Why doesn't my rule such and such work? I see unexpected results in the register. If Ledger had a command to expand everything, and print the expanded results, all of these questions would be easily answered by inspecting what it's doing, no? Is that easy to implement? Just an idea. I'm building something exactly like that for Beancount, to help in debugging plugins, which are essentially functions that transform a list of entries in arbitrary ways, into a new, modified list of entries. One should be able to diff the files and round-trip between data-structure to text and back. Actually, I just completed support for round-trips tonight (I had been writing comparison code lately in order to make it easier to write tests by writing a list of expected transactions in the input syntax itself, so it was a-propos). This means that Beancount can now read a complete ledger file, spit it back out in text, and re-reading that output generates the same data structures in memory. Writing that re-read structure out again to a second file also shows no file diff against the first output to text, it's identical. I tested this on my gigantic personal ledger of 8 years, and it passes clean. I'll add a new report type called print shortly, which will just spit out the data structure it read in memory back to text, after running all the transformations (e.g. automatically setting the amounts on postings, processing the tag directives, adding price entries for postings at a price, and whatever else the plugins do). This should be a nice debugging tool in the future, as it reflects what it does, e.g., what was automatically generated by the syntax shortcuts. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Automatically Credit an Account
Jostein Berntsen jber...@broadpark.no writes: Could you check my example and see if that works for you? I created a file foo.ledger: = /Assets:1500/ Income:Transaction(1 * amount) Income:3010 (-1 * amount) 2014-06-02 foo Assets:1500:foo:101011337 ..then I run ledger -f foo.ledger and I get: Ledger 3.0.2-20140507, the command-line accounting tool While parsing file foo.ledger, line 6: While balancing transaction from foo.ledger, lines 5-6: 2014-06-02 foo Assets:1500:foo:101011337 Unbalanced remainder is: 1337 Amount to balance against: 1337 Error: Transaction does not balance -- Esben Stien is b0ef@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Automatically Credit an Account
At Sun, 01 Jun 2014 23:11:39 +0200, Esben Stien wrote: I'm trying to do an automated transaction on this: [...] ..with $account 1 and the Income:3010 -1, but none of them seem to work Any pointers as to how I can do this? Hi Esben, I'm pretty sure I encountered the same issue when fooling around with trying to get a budget together. I think the transaction must be balanced before any automatic transaction is applied, and I doubt this is going to change. best, Erik -- Sent from my free software system http://fsf.org/. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Automatically Credit an Account
Jostein Berntsen jber...@broadpark.no writes: This seems to work for me: = /Assets:1500/ Assets:Total 1 Income:3010 -1 2014-06-02 foo Assets:1500:foo:101011337 Assets:Total 2014-06-03 foo Assets:1500:foo:201015100 Assets:Total That's because you're doing something totally different. If you look at my example, I only have one line in each transaction. I don't want to write, ie Assets:Total 15 brazillion times. -- Esben Stien is b0ef@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Automatically Credit an Account
Why don't you build a tool for printing out the result of these rule-based modifications? Do you think that would be useful? Is it possible? I see a lot of questions like: Why doesn't my rule such and such work? I see unexpected results in the register. If Ledger had a command to expand everything, and print the expanded results, all of these questions would be easily answered by inspecting what it's doing, no? Is that easy to implement? Just an idea. I'm building something exactly like that for Beancount, to help in debugging plugins, which are essentially functions that transform a list of entries in arbitrary ways, into a new, modified list of entries. One should be able to diff the files and round-trip between data-structure to text and back. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Esben Stien b...@esben-stien.name wrote: Jostein Berntsen jber...@broadpark.no writes: This seems to work for me: = /Assets:1500/ Assets:Total 1 Income:3010 -1 2014-06-02 foo Assets:1500:foo:101011337 Assets:Total 2014-06-03 foo Assets:1500:foo:201015100 Assets:Total That's because you're doing something totally different. If you look at my example, I only have one line in each transaction. I don't want to write, ie Assets:Total 15 brazillion times. -- Esben Stien is b0ef@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Automatically Credit an Account
On 01.06.14,23:11, Esben Stien wrote: I'm trying to do an automated transaction on this: 2014-06-01 foo ;[[id:e235bd4a-ec6f-4975-ab26-7da247b3bb77][1337453 foo]] Assets:1500:foo:1337453 1337 The actual transaction without automation would be: 2014-06-01 foo ;[[id:e235bd4a-ec6f-4975-ab26-7da247b3bb77][1337453 foo]] Assets:1500:foo:1337453 1337 Income:3010 So, this amount is supposed to be credited from the Income:3010 account, so I've tried many possible variations of this: = Assets:1500 Income:3010 ..with $account 1 and the Income:3010 -1, but none of them seem to work Any pointers as to how I can do this? Have you tried something like this? = /Assets:1500/ Income:Transaction(1 * amount) Income:3010 (-1 * amount) Jostein -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ledger group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
