[LU] for ROTL - Is Jones talking rubbish or am I wrong

2013-08-19 Thread nat...@sky.com
“It doesn’t matter if it’s intentional or not. If it is going in the back of 
the net and it hits him, it’s a penalty.


The above is an actual quote from Jones about the 'Pearce handball' on Saturday
Now I accept that if it had been a Wed player who had done it I would be 
screaming for a penalty and claiming we were robbed etc BUT unless my 
understanding of the rules is totally wrong, surely a handball has to be 
deliberate ? 

To me 'deliberate' and 'intentional' mean exactly the same thing


Can any ref on the list or anyone who knows tell me if me or Jones are correct ?

Dave
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Re: [LU] for ROTL - Is Jones talking rubbish or am I wrong

2013-08-19 Thread Ian Murray
I don't know the ins and outs but if you were arguing that the sky is green and 
David F. Jones argued that it is in fact blue, I'd be on your side mate.

In terms of the letter of the law my understanding was it is illegal to touch 
the ball with your arm or hand, and a free kick is awarded (or penalty in the 
box) when you do. Now, if its unavoidable it seems to me to be in the spirit of 
the game that play continues. Jones seems to be inserting a new variable - that 
even if the it is unavoidable, provided a goal would have been scored but for 
the infringement, then a penalty is awarded.

In my view he's talking horse shit. But that's not new for him.



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On 19/08/2013, at 19:10, nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com wrote:

 “It doesn’t matter if it’s intentional or not. If it is going in the back of 
 the net and it hits him, it’s a penalty.
 
 
 The above is an actual quote from Jones about the 'Pearce handball' on 
 Saturday
 Now I accept that if it had been a Wed player who had done it I would be 
 screaming for a penalty and claiming we were robbed etc BUT unless my 
 understanding of the rules is totally wrong, surely a handball has to be 
 deliberate ? 
 
 To me 'deliberate' and 'intentional' mean exactly the same thing
 
 
 Can any ref on the list or anyone who knows tell me if me or Jones are 
 correct ?
 
 Dave
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Re: [LU] apology to fans

2013-08-19 Thread Andy Clayton
Ross was MoM?

At least he was receiving a presentation on the pitch after the game?


On 18 August 2013 17:16, Damian Walsh pussaydam...@gmail.com wrote:

 According to the BBC report he (Austin) was man of the match!

 Perhaps that's just a reflection of the quality of the game?

 Damian



  The post match pub debate was all about Austin and it really was a 50:50
  split between the people who think he's the new David batty and others
 who
  think he's a League One clogger.
 
 
 
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Re: [LU] for ROTL - Is Jones talking rubbish or am I wrong

2013-08-19 Thread tim . whelan
It's not even true to say that a goal was prevented when the goal hit Pearce's 
arm. Pearce blocked the shot with his body and the ball was going straight up 
in the air when it hit his hand.
 
Given that it struck his arm accidentally it was not a penalty anyway.
 
Tim W.



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To: nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com 
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Sent: Monday, 19 August 2013, 12:16
Subject: Re: [LU] for ROTL - Is Jones talking rubbish or am I wrong


I don't know the ins and outs but if you were arguing that the sky is green and 
David F. Jones argued that it is in fact blue, I'd be on your side mate.

In terms of the letter of the law my understanding was it is illegal to touch 
the ball with your arm or hand, and a free kick is awarded (or penalty in the 
box) when you do. Now, if its unavoidable it seems to me to be in the spirit of 
the game that play continues. Jones seems to be inserting a new variable - that 
even if the it is unavoidable, provided a goal would have been scored but for 
the infringement, then a penalty is awarded.

In my view he's talking horse shit. But that's not new for him.



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On 19/08/2013, at 19:10, nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com wrote:

 “It doesn’t matter if it’s intentional or not. If it is going in the back of 
 the net and it hits him, it’s a penalty.
 
 
 The above is an actual quote from Jones about the 'Pearce handball' on 
 Saturday
 Now I accept that if it had been a Wed player who had done it I would be 
 screaming for a penalty and claiming we were robbed etc BUT unless my 
 understanding of the rules is totally wrong, surely a handball has to be 
 deliberate ? 
 
 To me 'deliberate' and 'intentional' mean exactly the same thing
 
 
 Can any ref on the list or anyone who knows tell me if me or Jones are 
 correct ?
 
 Dave
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Re: [LU] for ROTL - Is Jones talking rubbish or am I wrong

2013-08-19 Thread Matt Anderson
Yes, the original shot was legitimately blocked. The ball wasn't going into the 
goal but up in the air. Not sure if that's relevant but Dave jones can f@@@ 
right off the fat c@@@

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On 19 Aug 2013, at 13:17, tim.whe...@talk21.com wrote:

 It's not even true to say that a goal was prevented when the goal hit 
 Pearce's arm. Pearce blocked the shot with his body and the ball was going 
 straight up in the air when it hit his hand.
  
 Given that it struck his arm accidentally it was not a penalty anyway.
  
 Tim W.
 
 
 
 From: Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com
 To: nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com 
 Cc: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Monday, 19 August 2013, 12:16
 Subject: Re: [LU] for ROTL - Is Jones talking rubbish or am I wrong
 
 
 I don't know the ins and outs but if you were arguing that the sky is green 
 and David F. Jones argued that it is in fact blue, I'd be on your side mate.
 
 In terms of the letter of the law my understanding was it is illegal to touch 
 the ball with your arm or hand, and a free kick is awarded (or penalty in the 
 box) when you do. Now, if its unavoidable it seems to me to be in the spirit 
 of the game that play continues. Jones seems to be inserting a new variable - 
 that even if the it is unavoidable, provided a goal would have been scored 
 but for the infringement, then a penalty is awarded.
 
 In my view he's talking horse shit. But that's not new for him.
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 19/08/2013, at 19:10, nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com wrote:
 
 “It doesn’t matter if it’s intentional or not. If it is going in the back of 
 the net and it hits him, it’s a penalty.
 
 
 The above is an actual quote from Jones about the 'Pearce handball' on 
 Saturday
 Now I accept that if it had been a Wed player who had done it I would be 
 screaming for a penalty and claiming we were robbed etc BUT unless my 
 understanding of the rules is totally wrong, surely a handball has to be 
 deliberate ? 
 
 To me 'deliberate' and 'intentional' mean exactly the same thing
 
 
 Can any ref on the list or anyone who knows tell me if me or Jones are 
 correct ?
 
 Dave
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[LU] Russell Crowe

2013-08-19 Thread Matt Anderson
Is apparently a Leeds fan according to his latest twitter announcement.



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Re: [LU] Russell Crowe

2013-08-19 Thread Errand Fivefold
Always has been, according to my knowledge.
What's he said?

Verner 


tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--



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Sent: Monday, 19 August 2013, 13:36
Subject: [LU] Russell Crowe
  

Is apparently a Leeds fan according to his latest twitter announcement.



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Re: [LU] Russell Crowe

2013-08-19 Thread Matt Anderson
Someone asked him which premiership team he supports, said he doesn't and is 
waiting for leeds to rise again.

Must admit I don't follow Russell Crowe or his career. The only thing I know 
about him is from the South Park p1ss take of him

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On 19 Aug 2013, at 13:47, Errand Fivefold errand.fivef...@talk21.com wrote:

 Always has been, according to my knowledge.
 What's he said?
  
 Verner
 
 
 tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--
 
 From: Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.net
 To: Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Monday, 19 August 2013, 13:36
 Subject: [LU] Russell Crowe
 
 Is apparently a Leeds fan according to his latest twitter announcement.
 
 
 
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Re: [LU] for ROTL - Is Jones talking rubbish or am I wrong

2013-08-19 Thread Ian Murray
Well said Matt. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 19/08/2013, at 20:25, Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.net wrote:

 Yes, the original shot was legitimately blocked. The ball wasn't going into 
 the goal but up in the air. Not sure if that's relevant but Dave jones can 
 f@@@ right off the fat c@@@
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 19 Aug 2013, at 13:17, tim.whe...@talk21.com wrote:
 
 It's not even true to say that a goal was prevented when the goal hit 
 Pearce's arm. Pearce blocked the shot with his body and the ball was going 
 straight up in the air when it hit his hand.
 
 Given that it struck his arm accidentally it was not a penalty anyway.
 
 Tim W.
 
 
 
 From: Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com
 To: nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com 
 Cc: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Monday, 19 August 2013, 12:16
 Subject: Re: [LU] for ROTL - Is Jones talking rubbish or am I wrong
 
 
 I don't know the ins and outs but if you were arguing that the sky is green 
 and David F. Jones argued that it is in fact blue, I'd be on your side mate.
 
 In terms of the letter of the law my understanding was it is illegal to 
 touch the ball with your arm or hand, and a free kick is awarded (or penalty 
 in the box) when you do. Now, if its unavoidable it seems to me to be in the 
 spirit of the game that play continues. Jones seems to be inserting a new 
 variable - that even if the it is unavoidable, provided a goal would have 
 been scored but for the infringement, then a penalty is awarded.
 
 In my view he's talking horse shit. But that's not new for him.
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 19/08/2013, at 19:10, nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com wrote:
 
 “It doesn’t matter if it’s intentional or not. If it is going in the back 
 of the net and it hits him, it’s a penalty.
 
 
 The above is an actual quote from Jones about the 'Pearce handball' on 
 Saturday
 Now I accept that if it had been a Wed player who had done it I would be 
 screaming for a penalty and claiming we were robbed etc BUT unless my 
 understanding of the rules is totally wrong, surely a handball has to be 
 deliberate ? 
 
 To me 'deliberate' and 'intentional' mean exactly the same thing
 
 
 Can any ref on the list or anyone who knows tell me if me or Jones are 
 correct ?
 
 Dave
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[LU] Non Lu: Becchio watch

2013-08-19 Thread Richard walker
He did well to make bench in the absence of the injured Gary Hooper. At least 
he picked up 30k for doing nowt. Pinching a living has never been more 
appropriate.

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[LU] Ipswich game on TV

2013-08-19 Thread Guy Bonello
Ipswich - Leeds is the 3pm ko Championship game being screened around the 
world this Saturday , so should be some streams. knocking about 


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Re: [LU] Ipswich game on TV

2013-08-19 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
Sado Masochism.
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 Ipswich - Leeds is the 3pm ko Championship game being screened around the
 world this Saturday , so should be some streams. knocking about
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[LU] Excellent article from the YEP

2013-08-19 Thread MarkBursa
Very optimistic piece on the academy. Really encouraging, and sheds some  
light on how bad things were under Colin.
 
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/
leeds-united-sorry-neil-but-you-were-wrong-about-the-academy-redfearn-1-5962
711
 
 
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Re: [LU] Non Lu: Becchio watch

2013-08-19 Thread MarkBursa
He's on nothing like £30k. I bet top wage at Norwich is less than half  
that. And Becchio won't be anywhere near their top wage. He'll be on £8-10k a  
week tops.
 
M
 
 
In a message dated 19/08/2013 19:16:45 GMT Daylight Time,  
richleed...@yahoo.co.uk writes:

He did  well to make bench in the absence of the injured Gary Hooper. At 
least he  picked up 30k for doing nowt. Pinching a living has never been more  
appropriate.

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