Re: [LU] West Brom addendum

[david.keddie via Leedslist]

On the wearing of masks I thought it was well observed inside the ground and 
the stewards offered reminders by showing a mask if required. Much better 
respected than it looked like at the Cup Final which was a complete joke 
judging by the pictures on the telly.Sent from my Galaxy
 Original message From: nattan--- via Leedslist 
 Date: 24/05/2021  15:13  (GMT+00:00) To: leeds list 
 Subject: [LU] West Brom addendum A few have asked off 
list what it was like covid restriction- wise , so here goesFirstly an apology 
to Liam Cooper, although it was a daft an unnecessary pass, Kalvin was the one 
mainly at fault. We were sat  ( stood ) first  row from the front right by the 
corner flag so not the greatest view of action down the other end) All my STs 
have been in upper tiers- lowfields seats, then top of south stand, then upper 
east and now N10 at the back of the Kop ( where I used to stand when I first 
started going in the mid 70s) so it really gave a new perspective on the game - 
the camber on the grass is amazing, it looks flat from above but at pitch level 
but is almost a very shallow dome. You also realise quite how fast they are , 
one bit when Ayling was not even in my peripheral vision and a second later was 
keeping the ball in play was incredible,  also a trick from Raphinha was 
outstanding so close up. It also showed how much the lad was acting / 
exaggerating in the first minute when Coops " smacked him in the face"As for 
the day itself it was weird enough having to wear a mask both on the train 
itself and inside both Victoria and Leeds stations,  coming back only window 
seats were in use and after each stop the announcer said the police would be 
giving fixed penalty notices to anyone not wearing a mask correctly without a 
medical exemption We were booked in the West Ridings fron 12noon to 3.15 and 
because there was 7 of us we had to have 2 separate tables (6 being the allowed 
maximum) . My lad and myself were outside queueing up at 11,45 and were first 
through the doors. We had to give our names to the doorman  then fill in a form 
with name and phone number.. It was waitress service , worked well except the 
landlord told me one of the girls having been on furlough for 15 months on 70% 
pay had failed to show up. Masks were supposed to be worn when moving through 
the pub  ( eg going to toilets or outside fir a cig) but not everyone complied 
and we even  moved our tables closer together At the ground itself there was a 
massive air of expectation, excitement and relief.  There were barriers 
surrounding the Revie Stand and everyone had to show their ticket, the email 
sent from the club confirming you had completed the medical questionnaire and 
some photo ID. A group of 3 lads were being denied entry and were arguing the 
toss with stewards over a lack of ID ( clearly asked for when we got match 
instructions) I  dont know how / if it was resolved.You entered as normal using 
ticket machine but once inside all the drinks and food outlets were shut 
including the Fanzone bar outside the Kop. Toilets were open as usual ( good 
job given the 7 pints I had in the Ridings)Masks were compulsory inside the 
ground for fans and stewards etc and I did  not see / notice anyone failing to 
comply or having issues ( i was front row so it's possible there were issues 
behind me ??)It was odd only having 8,000 in the stadium although i have been 
in such low crowds before- the difference yesterday was that all stands had 
fans in, there were empty seats surrounding everyone and the mood was buoyant,  
usually for such a poor turnout ( eg first round of league cup) some stands are 
empty, fans are sat in groups,  and most are thinking " why did i bother "The 
kneeling brought some small applause but no booing ( thankfully- the press 
would have had a field day) but seemed so much quicker in real life than on TV 
and was over and done with as soon as it  began.  Not sure it would even give 
fans pause for thought let alone actually affect behaviour Overall it was quite 
emotional especially the double substitution ( although they went off one at a 
time) of the two 'retirees' and then the lap of honour at the endSo whilst I 
enjoyed it and was immensely grateful to have been lucky in the ballot,  I hope 
to never experience the like again- here's to full houses and no restrictions 
and no masks next 
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Re: [LU] West Brom addendum

[Ted]

Can't argue with any of that Dave - that's exactly how it was for us too,
sat in the NE Upper.  To us, as people were more spread out, there seemed
more than 8000 there!

Robert - no recognition of Alioski on the lap of honour.  I don't think
he's actually signed the contract for Galascum has he?

Shame Kalvin's injury kept him away from the lap of honour as well.

Ted H


On Mon, 24 May 2021 at 15:39, Robert Heath  wrote:

> Thanks Dave. Very interesting.
>
> Was there any recognition for Alioski on the lap of honour?
>
> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 3:13 PM nattan--- via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
> > A few have asked off list what it was like covid restriction- wise , so
> > here goes
> > Firstly an apology to Liam Cooper, although it was a daft an unnecessary
> > pass, Kalvin was the one mainly at fault. We were sat  ( stood ) first
> row
> > from the front right by the corner flag so not the greatest view of
> action
> > down the other end) All my STs have been in upper tiers- lowfields seats,
> > then top of south stand, then upper east and now N10 at the back of the
> Kop
> > ( where I used to stand when I first started going in the mid 70s) so it
> > really gave a new perspective on the game - the camber on the grass is
> > amazing, it looks flat from above but at pitch level but is almost a very
> > shallow dome. You also realise quite how fast they are , one bit when
> > Ayling was not even in my peripheral vision and a second later was
> keeping
> > the ball in play was incredible,  also a trick from Raphinha was
> > outstanding so close up. It also showed how much the lad was acting /
> > exaggerating in the first minute when Coops " smacked him in the face"
> > As for the day itself it was weird enough having to wear a mask both on
> > the train itself and inside both Victoria and Leeds stations,  coming
> back
> > only window seats were in use and after each stop the announcer said the
> > police would be giving fixed penalty notices to anyone not wearing a mask
> > correctly without a medical exemption
> > We were booked in the West Ridings fron 12noon to 3.15 and because there
> > was 7 of us we had to have 2 separate tables (6 being the allowed
> maximum)
> > . My lad and myself were outside queueing up at 11,45 and were first
> > through the doors. We had to give our names to the doorman  then fill in
> a
> > form with name and phone number.. It was waitress service , worked well
> > except the landlord told me one of the girls having been on furlough for
> 15
> > months on 70% pay had failed to show up. Masks were supposed to be worn
> > when moving through the pub  ( eg going to toilets or outside fir a cig)
> > but not everyone complied and we even  moved our tables closer together
> > At the ground itself there was a massive air of expectation, excitement
> > and relief.  There were barriers surrounding the Revie Stand and everyone
> > had to show their ticket, the email sent from the club confirming you had
> > completed the medical questionnaire and some photo ID. A group of 3 lads
> > were being denied entry and were arguing the toss with stewards over a
> lack
> > of ID ( clearly asked for when we got match instructions) I  dont know
> how
> > / if it was resolved.
> > You entered as normal using ticket machine but once inside all the drinks
> > and food outlets were shut including the Fanzone bar outside the Kop.
> > Toilets were open as usual ( good job given the 7 pints I had in the
> > Ridings)
> > Masks were compulsory inside the ground for fans and stewards etc and I
> > did  not see / notice anyone failing to comply or having issues ( i was
> > front row so it's possible there were issues behind me ??)
> > It was odd only having 8,000 in the stadium although i have been in such
> > low crowds before- the difference yesterday was that all stands had fans
> > in, there were empty seats surrounding everyone and the mood was buoyant,
> > usually for such a poor turnout ( eg first round of league cup) some
> stands
> > are empty, fans are sat in groups,  and most are thinking " why did i
> > bother "
> > The kneeling brought some small applause but no booing ( thankfully- the
> > press would have had a field day) but seemed so much quicker in real life
> > than on TV and was over and done with as soon as it  began.  Not sure it
> > would even give fans pause for thought let alone actually affect
> behaviour
> > Overall it was quite emotional especially the double substitution (
> > although they went off one at a time) of the two 'retirees' and then the
> > lap of honour at the end
> > So whilst I enjoyed it and was immensely grateful to have been lucky in
> > the ballot,  I hope to never experience the like again- here's to full
> > houses and no restrictions and no masks next season
> > Dave
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Re: [LU] West Brom addendum

[Robert Heath]

Thanks Dave. Very interesting.

Was there any recognition for Alioski on the lap of honour?

On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 3:13 PM nattan--- via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

> A few have asked off list what it was like covid restriction- wise , so
> here goes
> Firstly an apology to Liam Cooper, although it was a daft an unnecessary
> pass, Kalvin was the one mainly at fault. We were sat  ( stood ) first  row
> from the front right by the corner flag so not the greatest view of action
> down the other end) All my STs have been in upper tiers- lowfields seats,
> then top of south stand, then upper east and now N10 at the back of the Kop
> ( where I used to stand when I first started going in the mid 70s) so it
> really gave a new perspective on the game - the camber on the grass is
> amazing, it looks flat from above but at pitch level but is almost a very
> shallow dome. You also realise quite how fast they are , one bit when
> Ayling was not even in my peripheral vision and a second later was keeping
> the ball in play was incredible,  also a trick from Raphinha was
> outstanding so close up. It also showed how much the lad was acting /
> exaggerating in the first minute when Coops " smacked him in the face"
> As for the day itself it was weird enough having to wear a mask both on
> the train itself and inside both Victoria and Leeds stations,  coming back
> only window seats were in use and after each stop the announcer said the
> police would be giving fixed penalty notices to anyone not wearing a mask
> correctly without a medical exemption
> We were booked in the West Ridings fron 12noon to 3.15 and because there
> was 7 of us we had to have 2 separate tables (6 being the allowed maximum)
> . My lad and myself were outside queueing up at 11,45 and were first
> through the doors. We had to give our names to the doorman  then fill in a
> form with name and phone number.. It was waitress service , worked well
> except the landlord told me one of the girls having been on furlough for 15
> months on 70% pay had failed to show up. Masks were supposed to be worn
> when moving through the pub  ( eg going to toilets or outside fir a cig)
> but not everyone complied and we even  moved our tables closer together
> At the ground itself there was a massive air of expectation, excitement
> and relief.  There were barriers surrounding the Revie Stand and everyone
> had to show their ticket, the email sent from the club confirming you had
> completed the medical questionnaire and some photo ID. A group of 3 lads
> were being denied entry and were arguing the toss with stewards over a lack
> of ID ( clearly asked for when we got match instructions) I  dont know how
> / if it was resolved.
> You entered as normal using ticket machine but once inside all the drinks
> and food outlets were shut including the Fanzone bar outside the Kop.
> Toilets were open as usual ( good job given the 7 pints I had in the
> Ridings)
> Masks were compulsory inside the ground for fans and stewards etc and I
> did  not see / notice anyone failing to comply or having issues ( i was
> front row so it's possible there were issues behind me ??)
> It was odd only having 8,000 in the stadium although i have been in such
> low crowds before- the difference yesterday was that all stands had fans
> in, there were empty seats surrounding everyone and the mood was buoyant,
> usually for such a poor turnout ( eg first round of league cup) some stands
> are empty, fans are sat in groups,  and most are thinking " why did i
> bother "
> The kneeling brought some small applause but no booing ( thankfully- the
> press would have had a field day) but seemed so much quicker in real life
> than on TV and was over and done with as soon as it  began.  Not sure it
> would even give fans pause for thought let alone actually affect behaviour
> Overall it was quite emotional especially the double substitution (
> although they went off one at a time) of the two 'retirees' and then the
> lap of honour at the end
> So whilst I enjoyed it and was immensely grateful to have been lucky in
> the ballot,  I hope to never experience the like again- here's to full
> houses and no restrictions and no masks next season
> Dave
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[LU] West Brom addendum

[nattan--- via Leedslist]

A few have asked off list what it was like covid restriction- wise , so here 
goes
Firstly an apology to Liam Cooper, although it was a daft an unnecessary pass, 
Kalvin was the one mainly at fault. We were sat  ( stood ) first  row from the 
front right by the corner flag so not the greatest view of action down the 
other end) All my STs have been in upper tiers- lowfields seats, then top of 
south stand, then upper east and now N10 at the back of the Kop ( where I used 
to stand when I first started going in the mid 70s) so it really gave a new 
perspective on the game - the camber on the grass is amazing, it looks flat 
from above but at pitch level but is almost a very shallow dome. You also 
realise quite how fast they are , one bit when Ayling was not even in my 
peripheral vision and a second later was keeping the ball in play was 
incredible,  also a trick from Raphinha was outstanding so close up. It also 
showed how much the lad was acting / exaggerating in the first minute when 
Coops " smacked him in the face"
As for the day itself it was weird enough having to wear a mask both on the 
train itself and inside both Victoria and Leeds stations,  coming back only 
window seats were in use and after each stop the announcer said the police 
would be giving fixed penalty notices to anyone not wearing a mask correctly 
without a medical exemption 
We were booked in the West Ridings fron 12noon to 3.15 and because there was 7 
of us we had to have 2 separate tables (6 being the allowed maximum) . My lad 
and myself were outside queueing up at 11,45 and were first through the doors. 
We had to give our names to the doorman  then fill in a form with name and 
phone number.. It was waitress service , worked well except the landlord told 
me one of the girls having been on furlough for 15 months on 70% pay had failed 
to show up. Masks were supposed to be worn when moving through the pub  ( eg 
going to toilets or outside fir a cig) but not everyone complied and we even  
moved our tables closer together 
At the ground itself there was a massive air of expectation, excitement and 
relief.  There were barriers surrounding the Revie Stand and everyone had to 
show their ticket, the email sent from the club confirming you had completed 
the medical questionnaire and some photo ID. A group of 3 lads were being 
denied entry and were arguing the toss with stewards over a lack of ID ( 
clearly asked for when we got match instructions) I  dont know how / if it was 
resolved.
You entered as normal using ticket machine but once inside all the drinks and 
food outlets were shut including the Fanzone bar outside the Kop. Toilets were 
open as usual ( good job given the 7 pints I had in the Ridings)
Masks were compulsory inside the ground for fans and stewards etc and I did  
not see / notice anyone failing to comply or having issues ( i was front row so 
it's possible there were issues behind me ??)
It was odd only having 8,000 in the stadium although i have been in such low 
crowds before- the difference yesterday was that all stands had fans in, there 
were empty seats surrounding everyone and the mood was buoyant,  usually for 
such a poor turnout ( eg first round of league cup) some stands are empty, fans 
are sat in groups,  and most are thinking " why did i bother "
The kneeling brought some small applause but no booing ( thankfully- the press 
would have had a field day) but seemed so much quicker in real life than on TV 
and was over and done with as soon as it  began.  Not sure it would even give 
fans pause for thought let alone actually affect behaviour 
Overall it was quite emotional especially the double substitution ( although 
they went off one at a time) of the two 'retirees' and then the lap of honour 
at the end
So whilst I enjoyed it and was immensely grateful to have been lucky in the 
ballot,  I hope to never experience the like again- here's to full houses and 
no restrictions and no masks next season
Dave
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Re: [LU] Berra

[Michael Benjamin]

Really nice

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From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard Naef 

Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 3:49:54 PM
To: nat...@sky.com 
Cc: leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org) 
Subject: Re: [LU] Berra

You've taught you lad well Dave (or maybe it was partly due to that mysterious 
stranger you shared an away season ticket with back in the day) , excellent 
piece, get him to resend it to them!

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of nattan--- via 
Leedslist
Sent: 22 May 2021 15:51
To: leeds list 
Subject: [LU] Berra


With Berardi leaving lufc after the game tomorrow it seems a good time to  copy 
and paste an article my son sent to the Square Ball ( they did not print it) - 
sums up Berras contribution to the Leeds cause

Cometh the hour, cometh the man. That’s always been true of Leeds United.


A glance through our history shows that even in a team game, we’ve always had 
players that distil what our club stands for at a moment in time. The yardstick 
by which we measure everyone else who pulls on the white shirt.

Billy Bremner’s “Side Before Self” mantra isn’t just a slogan. It epitomises 
the grit, effort and togetherness of Revie’s family. The words are immortal, 
like Bremner is immortal, like that whole, dwindling team will be forever 
immortal.

For Wilkinson’s driven professionalism, read Gordon Strachan. Simon Grayson’s 
all out attack with no thought to defence sounds a lot like Jermaine Beckford. 
Then there’s Colin’s hoofball distilled into the dour, dire Michael Brown, and 
Cellino’s entire half-arsed, egotistical era taking the form of Guissepe 
fucking Bellusci — a man convinced he knew better than a whole fanbase pointing 
out his painfully glaring mistakes.

And then there’s Gaetano Berardi.

No recent player has taken it upon himself to embody Leeds United as the team, 
the club, re-invents itself time and time again quite like Berardi.

Thrust him into the chaos of Hockaday, Milanic and Redfearn, and he’s a chaotic 
element. Violent, untrustworthy, borderline insane, yet still someone the fans 
are desperate to love.

Fast forward to Garry Monk, and Berra embodies The Group™. “Pontus Janson, Kyle 
Bartley. Luke Ayling and Berardi.” A player so intrinsically part of a greater 
collective that his first name is written out of the chants from the Kop. Under 
the Snake, Leeds came close, but were never ever going to be quite good enough. 
Not that anyone at Elland Road would admit that. Except for the one man who 
came out and demanded that the team replace him with a better left back.

We didn’t need a better left back. We needed a better manager.

We got one.

While Bielsa provided the brains, Kalvin the heart, and Pablo the wizardry that 
we needed to finally end sixteen long, tedious, terrible years, Berardi was the 
soul of the team. Committed. Driven. Uncompromising.

Want someone to train like a demon even when he’s not being picked? Berardi. 
Need someone to fill in at centre half? Berardi. Need someone to find a 
Centenary kit to raise funds and refurbish a hospital? Berardi.

Looking for a neat summation of just how much we lost the plot that night 
against Derby? Well. Look no further.

Marcelo Bielsa took League One Liam, the only academy midfielder we couldn’t 
cash in on, the world’s most unloved nomadic striker, and a rag-tag collection 
of also-rans and never-weres and moulded them into Champions. A team defined by 
unwavering commitment and professionalism. The willingness to go the extra 
yard, both when it mattered and when it didn’t.

It’s fitting that what could be Berardi’s last game in a Leeds shirt didn’t 
matter. We were up. We were Champions. We were a combination of half pissed and 
fully hungover. And he still gave it his all, paying the price to the tune of 
one career-threatening knee injury. Bielsa’s approach demands nothing less.

For the Premier League, Leeds will need another man to step up and take the 
mantle. To embody a club with ambitions — replacing delusions for the first 
time in 16 years — of grandeur. To stand toe to toe with the best and beat them.

But for one night, battered and bruised on the top of a bus, Gaetano Berardi 
was all of us for one last time. Sixteen years of suffering released in two 
simple, triumphant words.

How does it feel, Gaetano?

“FUCKING GREAT!”

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Re: [LU] Berra

[Richard Naef]

 You've taught you lad well Dave (or maybe it was partly due to that mysterious 
stranger you shared an away season ticket with back in the day) , excellent 
piece, get him to resend it to them!

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of nattan--- via 
Leedslist
Sent: 22 May 2021 15:51
To: leeds list 
Subject: [LU] Berra


With Berardi leaving lufc after the game tomorrow it seems a good time to  copy 
and paste an article my son sent to the Square Ball ( they did not print it) - 
sums up Berras contribution to the Leeds cause

Cometh the hour, cometh the man. That’s always been true of Leeds United.


A glance through our history shows that even in a team game, we’ve always had 
players that distil what our club stands for at a moment in time. The yardstick 
by which we measure everyone else who pulls on the white shirt.

Billy Bremner’s “Side Before Self” mantra isn’t just a slogan. It epitomises 
the grit, effort and togetherness of Revie’s family. The words are immortal, 
like Bremner is immortal, like that whole, dwindling team will be forever 
immortal.

For Wilkinson’s driven professionalism, read Gordon Strachan. Simon Grayson’s 
all out attack with no thought to defence sounds a lot like Jermaine Beckford. 
Then there’s Colin’s hoofball distilled into the dour, dire Michael Brown, and 
Cellino’s entire half-arsed, egotistical era taking the form of Guissepe 
fucking Bellusci — a man convinced he knew better than a whole fanbase pointing 
out his painfully glaring mistakes.

And then there’s Gaetano Berardi.

No recent player has taken it upon himself to embody Leeds United as the team, 
the club, re-invents itself time and time again quite like Berardi.

Thrust him into the chaos of Hockaday, Milanic and Redfearn, and he’s a chaotic 
element. Violent, untrustworthy, borderline insane, yet still someone the fans 
are desperate to love.

Fast forward to Garry Monk, and Berra embodies The Group™. “Pontus Janson, Kyle 
Bartley. Luke Ayling and Berardi.” A player so intrinsically part of a greater 
collective that his first name is written out of the chants from the Kop. Under 
the Snake, Leeds came close, but were never ever going to be quite good enough. 
Not that anyone at Elland Road would admit that. Except for the one man who 
came out and demanded that the team replace him with a better left back.

We didn’t need a better left back. We needed a better manager.

We got one.

While Bielsa provided the brains, Kalvin the heart, and Pablo the wizardry that 
we needed to finally end sixteen long, tedious, terrible years, Berardi was the 
soul of the team. Committed. Driven. Uncompromising.

Want someone to train like a demon even when he’s not being picked? Berardi. 
Need someone to fill in at centre half? Berardi. Need someone to find a 
Centenary kit to raise funds and refurbish a hospital? Berardi.

Looking for a neat summation of just how much we lost the plot that night 
against Derby? Well. Look no further.

Marcelo Bielsa took League One Liam, the only academy midfielder we couldn’t 
cash in on, the world’s most unloved nomadic striker, and a rag-tag collection 
of also-rans and never-weres and moulded them into Champions. A team defined by 
unwavering commitment and professionalism. The willingness to go the extra 
yard, both when it mattered and when it didn’t.

It’s fitting that what could be Berardi’s last game in a Leeds shirt didn’t 
matter. We were up. We were Champions. We were a combination of half pissed and 
fully hungover. And he still gave it his all, paying the price to the tune of 
one career-threatening knee injury. Bielsa’s approach demands nothing less.

For the Premier League, Leeds will need another man to step up and take the 
mantle. To embody a club with ambitions — replacing delusions for the first 
time in 16 years — of grandeur. To stand toe to toe with the best and beat them.

But for one night, battered and bruised on the top of a bus, Gaetano Berardi 
was all of us for one last time. Sixteen years of suffering released in two 
simple, triumphant words.

How does it feel, Gaetano?

“FUCKING GREAT!”

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