[LU] Sheff Utd
Day started early for me in 'Spoons and there seemed to be a lot of optimism around. Conditions were terrible but we started exactly the same way as we did against West Brom. Great football and they didn't really have a kick in the first 30 mins. We missed chance after chance as shots were fired by Bamford and Allioski into the top of the South Stand. Harrison missed from 3 yards out and Roberts headed wide unmarked. I firmly believe if we had converted one of our chances in that initial half an hour we would have buried them. They are a well organised team with a good defence and a couple of lively strikers in McGouldrick and Sharpe but overall I just think they're an ordinary, hard working team. I've seen them half a dozen times this season and I don't think they are as good as we are. The problem with us is that having not got our goal after 30 mins the intensity dropped 10-20% and the game became very even. They didn't really threaten us but the game was more even in terms of possession. Second half we upped to tempo again but never to the same intensity. Roberts fired against the bar but apart from that we created very little in the 2nd half and then got done on the break when Cooper seemed to lose possession to sharp who layed it on a plate for their big no 6 Basham who finished well. Where was our left back ? We pushed forward and had two great chances. First Roberts fired against the bar and then an injured Jansson who was playing up front put it wide from 3 yards. I would have taken that. They did us on the break again and sharp was taken out by Kiko. Straight red. Hope BFP has been keeping himself fit. Wilder said it was a smash and grab. He was right. I don't think this is over by a long shot and I don't think they have the quality they think they have. Their keeper reacted like they'd won the league on the final whistle - probably due to the abuse he had received throughout the match due to his Scum connections. Milwall next. Casilla - 6. I don't like the distance he comes off his line. Ayling - 6. Thought he did ok first half pushing forward but I do think he's a weak link now. Allioski - 7. Generally did ok and his cross to Roberts in the first half was great but he didn't have his shooting boots on today. Cooper - 5. One mistake cost us and we used to say this regularly about Cooper but not so much this season if at all so I think he deserves not to be hammered for this. Jansson - 7. Spent most of the match on his back. There were some bad challenges going in but for a big bloke he is a bit of a pansy. Should have scored at the end but he was struggling to walk / run. How bad is his injury ? Hernandez - 8. I thought he was lively throughout and our best player. Philips - 7. Didn't do anything wrong and battled hard. His shooting is awful. Harrison - 5. Thought he was pretty poor Roberts - 8. I was impressed again. Needs a goal but he's playing with a lot of confidence. Bamford - 6. Should have scored. I think he's got 7 this season so far. He really should have double that. Klich - 6. Good start but faded in the conditions. Looked leggy 2nd half till subbed. Subs: Clarke - didn't look at it. Dallas - can't remember him doing anything Douglas - all I remember him is trailing back after Basham before their goal. 12:30 kick offs are shite. Everyone was pissed off back in the pub until Rotherham equalised but even that was short lived as Norwich took the lead a few mins later. A very disappointing day out in the rain. Can't remember getting home. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE
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I’m regretting not getting the half season ticket myself, but I miss the craic more than the football. If any ST holders or Gold Members (heh) wants to get me a ticket for any games I’d be really grateful. Only seen us play twice this season. On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 at 17:33, Richard Walker wrote: > its no laughing matter - I've shelled out £60 this year on Silver an Gold > memberships just for the right to buy tickets. Yeah I should have got a > season ticket but with games being played at ridiculous days and times I > feel I need to the right to tell them to fuck off if I want. > > Good news is I've got Blades tickets. > > On Monday, 25 February 2019, 16:44:35 GMT, Simon McNally < > simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote: > > > Made me laugh out loud! > Post of the year! > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 25 Feb 2019, at 08:12, Jim Moran wrote: > > > > Gold member? Is this some kind of joke from when Mini Me was a Leeds fan? > > > > On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 at 06:21, Richard Walker via Leedslist < > > leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote: > > > >> up early and waiting for tickets to come online. I'm not missing out on > >> this one. Had to watch Bolton on the internet because I messed up with > >> tickets. Wiggy got me tickets for Friday night (WBA) and Ive now > upgraded > >> to Gold membership. I wonder how may Gold members they are now ? > >>On Sunday, 24 February 2019, 21:37:22 GMT, Richard Walker via > >> Leedslist wrote: > >> > >> cheers MIck. > >>On Sunday, 24 February 2019, 19:55:53 GMT, Robinson, Mick < > >> mick.robin...@miq.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > https://www.leedsunited.com/news/ticket-news/24576/tickets-sheffield-united-h > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Leedslist On Behalf Of Richard > >> Walker via Leedslist > >> Sent: 24 February 2019 19:36 > >> To: Leeds List > >> Subject: [LU] SHeff Utd > >> > >> [EXTERNAL] > >> > >> > >> Does anyone know if Sheff Utd tickets go on sale tomorrow ? > >> No mention on the website but given match is only 2 and half weeks away > I > >> thought it would be tomorrow ? > >> ___ > >> Leedslist mailing list > >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > >> > >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > >> > >> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > >> > >> > >> > >> *** This is an external email. Be careful when responding. *** > > >> > >> ___ > >> Leedslist mailing list > >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > >> > >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > >> > >> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > >> > >> ___ > >> Leedslist mailing list > >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > >> > >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > >> > >> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > >> > > ___ > > Leedslist mailing list > > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > > > RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE
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its no laughing matter - I've shelled out £60 this year on Silver an Gold memberships just for the right to buy tickets. Yeah I should have got a season ticket but with games being played at ridiculous days and times I feel I need to the right to tell them to fuck off if I want. Good news is I've got Blades tickets. On Monday, 25 February 2019, 16:44:35 GMT, Simon McNally wrote: Made me laugh out loud! Post of the year! Sent from my iPhone > On 25 Feb 2019, at 08:12, Jim Moran wrote: > > Gold member? Is this some kind of joke from when Mini Me was a Leeds fan? > > On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 at 06:21, Richard Walker via Leedslist < > leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote: > >> up early and waiting for tickets to come online. I'm not missing out on >> this one. Had to watch Bolton on the internet because I messed up with >> tickets. Wiggy got me tickets for Friday night (WBA) and Ive now upgraded >> to Gold membership. I wonder how may Gold members they are now ? >> On Sunday, 24 February 2019, 21:37:22 GMT, Richard Walker via >> Leedslist wrote: >> >> cheers MIck. >> On Sunday, 24 February 2019, 19:55:53 GMT, Robinson, Mick < >> mick.robin...@miq.com> wrote: >> >> >> https://www.leedsunited.com/news/ticket-news/24576/tickets-sheffield-united-h >> >> >> >> From: Leedslist On Behalf Of Richard >> Walker via Leedslist >> Sent: 24 February 2019 19:36 >> To: Leeds List >> Subject: [LU] SHeff Utd >> >> [EXTERNAL] >> >> >> Does anyone know if Sheff Utd tickets go on sale tomorrow ? >> No mention on the website but given match is only 2 and half weeks away I >> thought it would be tomorrow ? >> ___ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE >> >> >> >> *** This is an external email. Be careful when responding. *** >> >> ___ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE >> >> ___ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE >> > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > RIP Jimmy WAC-COE ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE
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Made me laugh out loud! Post of the year! Sent from my iPhone > On 25 Feb 2019, at 08:12, Jim Moran wrote: > > Gold member? Is this some kind of joke from when Mini Me was a Leeds fan? > > On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 at 06:21, Richard Walker via Leedslist < > leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote: > >> up early and waiting for tickets to come online. I'm not missing out on >> this one. Had to watch Bolton on the internet because I messed up with >> tickets. Wiggy got me tickets for Friday night (WBA) and Ive now upgraded >> to Gold membership. I wonder how may Gold members they are now ? >>On Sunday, 24 February 2019, 21:37:22 GMT, Richard Walker via >> Leedslist wrote: >> >> cheers MIck. >>On Sunday, 24 February 2019, 19:55:53 GMT, Robinson, Mick < >> mick.robin...@miq.com> wrote: >> >> >> https://www.leedsunited.com/news/ticket-news/24576/tickets-sheffield-united-h >> >> >> >> From: Leedslist On Behalf Of Richard >> Walker via Leedslist >> Sent: 24 February 2019 19:36 >> To: Leeds List >> Subject: [LU] SHeff Utd >> >> [EXTERNAL] >> >> >> Does anyone know if Sheff Utd tickets go on sale tomorrow ? >> No mention on the website but given match is only 2 and half weeks away I >> thought it would be tomorrow ? >> ___ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE >> >> >> >> *** This is an external email. Be careful when responding. *** >> >> ___ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE >> >> ___ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE >> > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > RIP Jimmy WAC-COE ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE
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Gold member? Is this some kind of joke from when Mini Me was a Leeds fan? On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 at 06:21, Richard Walker via Leedslist < leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote: > up early and waiting for tickets to come online. I'm not missing out on > this one. Had to watch Bolton on the internet because I messed up with > tickets. Wiggy got me tickets for Friday night (WBA) and Ive now upgraded > to Gold membership. I wonder how may Gold members they are now ? > On Sunday, 24 February 2019, 21:37:22 GMT, Richard Walker via > Leedslist wrote: > > cheers MIck. > On Sunday, 24 February 2019, 19:55:53 GMT, Robinson, Mick < > mick.robin...@miq.com> wrote: > > > https://www.leedsunited.com/news/ticket-news/24576/tickets-sheffield-united-h > > > > From: Leedslist On Behalf Of Richard > Walker via Leedslist > Sent: 24 February 2019 19:36 > To: Leeds List > Subject: [LU] SHeff Utd > > [EXTERNAL] > > > Does anyone know if Sheff Utd tickets go on sale tomorrow ? > No mention on the website but given match is only 2 and half weeks away I > thought it would be tomorrow ? > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > > > > *** This is an external email. Be careful when responding. *** > > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE
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up early and waiting for tickets to come online. I'm not missing out on this one. Had to watch Bolton on the internet because I messed up with tickets. Wiggy got me tickets for Friday night (WBA) and Ive now upgraded to Gold membership. I wonder how may Gold members they are now ? On Sunday, 24 February 2019, 21:37:22 GMT, Richard Walker via Leedslist wrote: cheers MIck. On Sunday, 24 February 2019, 19:55:53 GMT, Robinson, Mick wrote: https://www.leedsunited.com/news/ticket-news/24576/tickets-sheffield-united-h From: Leedslist On Behalf Of Richard Walker via Leedslist Sent: 24 February 2019 19:36 To: Leeds List Subject: [LU] SHeff Utd [EXTERNAL] Does anyone know if Sheff Utd tickets go on sale tomorrow ? No mention on the website but given match is only 2 and half weeks away I thought it would be tomorrow ? ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE *** This is an external email. Be careful when responding. *** ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE
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cheers MIck. On Sunday, 24 February 2019, 19:55:53 GMT, Robinson, Mick wrote: https://www.leedsunited.com/news/ticket-news/24576/tickets-sheffield-united-h From: Leedslist On Behalf Of Richard Walker via Leedslist Sent: 24 February 2019 19:36 To: Leeds List Subject: [LU] SHeff Utd [EXTERNAL] Does anyone know if Sheff Utd tickets go on sale tomorrow ? No mention on the website but given match is only 2 and half weeks away I thought it would be tomorrow ? ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE *** This is an external email. Be careful when responding. *** ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE
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https://www.leedsunited.com/news/ticket-news/24576/tickets-sheffield-united-h From: Leedslist On Behalf Of Richard Walker via Leedslist Sent: 24 February 2019 19:36 To: Leeds List Subject: [LU] SHeff Utd [EXTERNAL] Does anyone know if Sheff Utd tickets go on sale tomorrow ? No mention on the website but given match is only 2 and half weeks away I thought it would be tomorrow ? ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE *** This is an external email. Be careful when responding. *** ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE
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I read an article last Thursday on the Official site saying they go on sale tomorrow? It didn't say a time though. Strange if the article has gone, it was in the "News" section? Ted. On Sun, 24 Feb 2019, 19:35 Richard Walker via Leedslist, < leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote: > Does anyone know if Sheff Utd tickets go on sale tomorrow ? > No mention on the website but given match is only 2 and half weeks away I > thought it would be tomorrow ? > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE
[LU] SHeff Utd
Does anyone know if Sheff Utd tickets go on sale tomorrow ? No mention on the website but given match is only 2 and half weeks away I thought it would be tomorrow ? ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE
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Have to agree. We were 1 down when there was supposed to be some sort of applause on 4 minutes. Guy behind me shouts 'Fuck Toby, we're one-nil down' - made me laugh anyway. From: Michael Benjamin To: "nat...@sky.com" ; {broken-address} ; "richleed...@yahoo.co.uk" ; "leedslist@gn.apc.org" Sent: Saturday, 28 October 2017, 17:40 Subject: RE: [LU] Sheff Utd I am sorry about your niece. I think the club should be involved in the community -- and should take a high profile. This feels very different though. If you are going to give, do it anonymously; that is true charity. This reeked of PR management and exploitation of a tragedy. Sure if the kid wanted to go out on the pitch then do it-- but why tell the world who he is and what he has? The club is rich enough to donate, and so are the players.And there are enough executive boxes to put the bight on. If the parents want to set up a charity fine, then do so. Nevertheless, this all had a touchy-feely PR spin; I really did not like it. And I am not saying don't help the kid. I am saying it gave me a bad taste. Head long into another banning? -Original Message- From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of nat...@sky.com Sent: 28 October 2017 19:27 To: {broken-address} ; richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd That first paragraph is spot on - good to see the club playing part in the community etc but what happens on the pitch has got to be the first and main priority - all the rest is just trimmings I feel for the lad and his parents (I lost my 6 year old neice a year ago after a long and painful illness) and it is good that the club and players are helping them BUT not when it may be to the detriment of what happens where it counts as far as LUFC goes DavePS great to see the u17s join the u20s as WORLD CHAMPIONS - lets hope the Premier League teams do not ruin these lads careers by insisting on buying foreign players rather than giving the youngsters a chance. Great comeback from 2 down. Who knows, maybe , just maybe we will have a first team in Qatar or wherever that can genuinely compete From: {broken-address} To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Saturday, 28 October 2017, 16:41 Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd A couple of thoughts: Christiansen has complained that the players' heads were still in the dressing room when the first goal went in. Has it crossed his mind at all that making the entire build up to kick-off about Toby, this terribly ill kid, complete with your central defender/captain carrying that kid out of the tunnel prior to kick off possibly distracted the players (and Cooper in particular) from getting their heads right for a really aggressive, tough Yorkshire derby? I am all for the club getting involved with local charities, and I like the Russell Crowe "All Leeds Aren't We?" Twitter video for Toby, but I thought the pre-match stuff perhaps went a bit too far, and was a clear distraction to the players. Our players have a hard time being aggressive at the best of times. That build up virtually guaranteed they wouldn't be focused at kick-off. As far as the rest of the game, well, I've been saying it since very early in the season: we are not aggressive enough, particularly in midfield. Even in the games we were winning in August and September, our midfielders in particular were being muscled off the ball too easily. Pass and move football is very difficult to play in the Championship if your players lack the physical strength and attitude to hold off a challenger prior to releasing the ball. We are crying out for a Roy Keane/Patrick Vieira type of midfield general (or if you prefer, a Billy Bremner/Johnny Giles/David Batty/Olivier Dacourt type). Someone who can receive a pass, hold off a challenger and then play a good, accurate pass to the feet of a teammate, while also being able to put in a few crunching, intimidating tackles early in the game to make the opposition players scared to be on the ball. I do not think we have any players remotely like that in our squad. Ronaldo Vieira is the closest. Buying someone to fill that role should be our January transfer priority. In the meantime, we also have a distinct lack of height in midfield, which means that when the opposition press our defence, forcing Lonergan to kick it long, we stand almost no chance of winning the resulting aerial duels, I think it's worth thinking about a 3-2-4-1 formation that would at least mitigate some of these factors. I would plump for Lonergan in goal (Wiedwald appears to be a physical coward whose reluctance to put his body on the line for the team has directly led to at least two goals.) As a defensive three I'd go with Cooper, Jansson (we desperately need him back to his imperious best) and
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Dropping Hernandez begin Alioski as an impact sun is quite a big call. I think despite the pesimists we have the strongest squad for years, just maybe waiting to get the best combination and TC needs more time to his ideas properly over in training. Sent from my Mobile Original Message Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd From: {broken-address} To: einar.karlm...@gmail.com CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org,seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org I see what you mean. I should have said the final two out of Saiz, Hernandez, Phillips, Roofe, Alioski (and Cibicki, who I forgot was even in our squad). For the record, I'd take Saiz and Phillips or Roofe to play behind Lasogga, with Alioski available as an impact sub if necessary. Also for the record, unless the team gets more aggressive, I'm pretty sure we could play 13 or 14 against the 11 of Sheffield United last night and still lose. Cheers! Sean -Original Message- From: Einar S. To: seanscribe Cc: {broken-address} ; leedslist Sent: Sat, Oct 28, 2017 2:41 pm Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd Actually - it seems to me you have choosen 14 players. If we cant beat them with quality, we will take them with our numbers! The fact that you call it 3-2-4-1 will probably not be enough to convice the match officials….. Lonergan Cooper - Jansson - Pennington Ayling - Dallas Viera - Shaughnessy Saiz - Henrnadez - Phillips - Roofe - Alioski Lasogga e. On 28. Oct 2017, at 19:29, seanscr...@aol.com wrote: Huh? Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. I said 3-2-4-1 That's 10 outfield players. Including a keeper, that's 11. -Original Message- From: Einar Solheim To: {broken-address} Cc: leedslist Sent: Sat, Oct 28, 2017 12:51 pm Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd I am sure we would be able to win some matches with 13 players on the field! Sent in great haste from my iPhone > 28. okt. 2017 kl. 17:40 skrev {broken-address} > : > > I think it's worth thinking about a 3-2-4-1 formation that would at least mitigate some of these factors. I would plump for Lonergan in goal (Wiedwald appears to be a physical coward whose reluctance to put his body on the line for the team has directly led to at least two goals.) As a defensive three I'd go with Cooper, Jansson (we desperately need him back to his imperious best) and Pennington. At right wing-back I'd go for Ayling, who actually looks quite useful coming forward. Left-wing back is a bit harder, but I'd go for Dallas to inject a bit of British aggression. defensive central midfielders I'd go with Vieira and Shaughnessy. > > The four more advanced midfielders are tough choices. Saiz is a must. Against > teams where we might expect to see more of the ball, I'd probably go with > Hernandez, Phillips, Roofe and Alioski. If we're under the cosh, perhaps I'd > put Klich in. Up front I suppose I'd go with Lasogga, ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org FLAME WARS 'R US ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org FLAME WARS 'R US
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I see what you mean. I should have said the final two out of Saiz, Hernandez, Phillips, Roofe, Alioski (and Cibicki, who I forgot was even in our squad). For the record, I'd take Saiz and Phillips or Roofe to play behind Lasogga, with Alioski available as an impact sub if necessary. Also for the record, unless the team gets more aggressive, I'm pretty sure we could play 13 or 14 against the 11 of Sheffield United last night and still lose. Cheers! Sean -Original Message- From: Einar S. To: seanscribe Cc: {broken-address} ; leedslist Sent: Sat, Oct 28, 2017 2:41 pm Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd Actually - it seems to me you have choosen 14 players. If we cant beat them with quality, we will take them with our numbers! The fact that you call it 3-2-4-1 will probably not be enough to convice the match officials….. Lonergan Cooper - Jansson - Pennington Ayling - Dallas Viera - Shaughnessy Saiz - Henrnadez - Phillips - Roofe - Alioski Lasogga e. On 28. Oct 2017, at 19:29, seanscr...@aol.com wrote: Huh? Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. I said 3-2-4-1 That's 10 outfield players. Including a keeper, that's 11. -Original Message- From: Einar Solheim To: {broken-address} Cc: leedslist Sent: Sat, Oct 28, 2017 12:51 pm Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd I am sure we would be able to win some matches with 13 players on the field! Sent in great haste from my iPhone > 28. okt. 2017 kl. 17:40 skrev {broken-address} > : > > I think it's worth thinking about a 3-2-4-1 formation that would at least mitigate some of these factors. I would plump for Lonergan in goal (Wiedwald appears to be a physical coward whose reluctance to put his body on the line for the team has directly led to at least two goals.) As a defensive three I'd go with Cooper, Jansson (we desperately need him back to his imperious best) and Pennington. At right wing-back I'd go for Ayling, who actually looks quite useful coming forward. Left-wing back is a bit harder, but I'd go for Dallas to inject a bit of British aggression. defensive central midfielders I'd go with Vieira and Shaughnessy. > > The four more advanced midfielders are tough choices. Saiz is a must. Against > teams where we might expect to see more of the ball, I'd probably go with > Hernandez, Phillips, Roofe and Alioski. If we're under the cosh, perhaps I'd > put Klich in. Up front I suppose I'd go with Lasogga, ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org FLAME WARS 'R US
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Actually - it seems to me you have choosen 14 players. If we cant beat them with quality, we will take them with our numbers! The fact that you call it 3-2-4-1 will probably not be enough to convice the match officials….. Lonergan Cooper - Jansson - Pennington Ayling - Dallas Viera - Shaughnessy Saiz - Henrnadez - Phillips - Roofe - Alioski Lasogga e. > On 28. Oct 2017, at 19:29, seanscr...@aol.com wrote: > > Huh? Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. I said 3-2-4-1 That's 10 outfield > players. Including a keeper, that's 11. > > > -Original Message- > From: Einar Solheim > To: {broken-address} > Cc: leedslist > Sent: Sat, Oct 28, 2017 12:51 pm > Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd > > I am sure we would be able to win some matches with 13 players on the field! > > Sent in great haste from my iPhone > > > 28. okt. 2017 kl. 17:40 skrev {broken-address} > <mailto:seanscr...@aol.com>-is-broken.gn.apc.org>: > > > > > I think it's worth thinking about a 3-2-4-1 formation that would at least > mitigate some of these factors. I would plump for Lonergan in goal (Wiedwald > appears to be a physical coward whose reluctance to put his body on the line > for the team has directly led to at least two goals.) As a defensive three > I'd go with Cooper, Jansson (we desperately need him back to his imperious > best) and Pennington. At right wing-back I'd go for Ayling, who actually > looks quite useful coming forward. Left-wing back is a bit harder, but I'd go > for Dallas to inject a bit of British aggression. defensive central > midfielders I'd go with Vieira and Shaughnessy. > > > > The four more advanced midfielders are tough choices. Saiz is a must. > > Against teams where we might expect to see more of the ball, I'd probably > > go with Hernandez, Phillips, Roofe and Alioski. If we're under the cosh, > > perhaps I'd put Klich in. Up front I suppose I'd go with Lasogga, ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org FLAME WARS 'R US
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Huh? Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. I said 3-2-4-1 That's 10 outfield players. Including a keeper, that's 11. -Original Message- From: Einar Solheim To: {broken-address} Cc: leedslist Sent: Sat, Oct 28, 2017 12:51 pm Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd I am sure we would be able to win some matches with 13 players on the field! Sent in great haste from my iPhone > 28. okt. 2017 kl. 17:40 skrev {broken-address} > : > > A couple of thoughts: > > > Christiansen has complained that the players' heads were still in the > dressing room when the first goal went in. Has it crossed his mind at all > that making the entire build up to kick-off about Toby, this terribly ill > kid, complete with your central defender/captain carrying that kid out of the > tunnel prior to kick off possibly distracted the players (and Cooper in > particular) from getting their heads right for a really aggressive, tough > Yorkshire derby? I am all for the club getting involved with local > charities, and I like the Russell Crowe "All Leeds Aren't We?" Twitter video > for Toby, but I thought the pre-match stuff perhaps went a bit too far, and > was a clear distraction to the players. Our players have a hard time being > aggressive at the best of times. That build up virtually guaranteed they > wouldn't be focused at kick-off. > > > As far as the rest of the game, well, I've been saying it since very early in > the season: we are not aggressive enough, particularly in midfield. Even in > the games we were winning in August and September, our midfielders in > particular were being muscled off the ball too easily. Pass and move football > is very difficult to play in the Championship if your players lack the > physical strength and attitude to hold off a challenger prior to releasing > the ball. We are crying out for a Roy Keane/Patrick Vieira type of midfield > general (or if you prefer, a Billy Bremner/Johnny Giles/David Batty/Olivier > Dacourt type). Someone who can receive a pass, hold off a challenger and then > play a good, accurate pass to the feet of a teammate, while also being able > to put in a few crunching, intimidating tackles early in the game to make the > opposition players scared to be on the ball. I do not think we have any > players remotely like that in our squad. Ronaldo Vieira is the closest. > Buying someo ne to fi ll > that role should be our January transfer priority. > > > In the meantime, we also have a distinct lack of height in midfield, which > means that when the opposition press our defence, forcing Lonergan to kick it > long, we stand almost no chance of winning the resulting aerial duels, I > think it's worth thinking about a 3-2-4-1 formation that would at least > mitigate some of these factors. I would plump for Lonergan in goal (Wiedwald > appears to be a physical coward whose reluctance to put his body on the line > for the team has directly led to at least two goals.) As a defensive three > I'd go with Cooper, Jansson (we desperately need him back to his imperious > best) and Pennington. At right wing-back I'd go for Ayling, who actually > looks quite useful coming forward. Left-wing back is a bit harder, but I'd go > for Dallas to inject a bit of British aggression. I'm willing to listen to > arguments for Berardi, I'm just not sure of his qualities going forward. > Anita doesn't impress me at all. Too lightweight. As the two defensive > central midfield ers I'd go > with Vieira and Shaughnessy. The latter was a midfielder at Reading, is a > decent passer of the ball and, crucially, is 6'3" tall. It would be his job > to win every high ball pumped into the middle of the park. > > > The four more advanced midfielders are tough choices. Saiz is a must. He has > the right attitude and almost got us a point on his own yesterday. The other > options - Phillips, Alioski, Klich, Hernandez, Roofe - all have their > weaknesses. Against teams where we might expect to see more of the ball, I'd > probably go with Hernandez, Phillips, Roofe and Alioski. If we're under the > cosh, perhaps I'd put Klich in. Up front I suppose I'd go with Lasogga, only > because there are no other options. A couple of games ago when Grot came on > as a sub the commentator said something about him being a very versatile > player, and I immediately thought, "Yes, he can play in a number of positions > and not score in any of them." > > > This team would feature six tall outfield players, so I would be playing for > every single set-piece possible, then getting Hernandez to swing the ball > into the area for those guys
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I am sure we would be able to win some matches with 13 players on the field! Sent in great haste from my iPhone > 28. okt. 2017 kl. 17:40 skrev {broken-address} > : > > A couple of thoughts: > > > Christiansen has complained that the players' heads were still in the > dressing room when the first goal went in. Has it crossed his mind at all > that making the entire build up to kick-off about Toby, this terribly ill > kid, complete with your central defender/captain carrying that kid out of the > tunnel prior to kick off possibly distracted the players (and Cooper in > particular) from getting their heads right for a really aggressive, tough > Yorkshire derby? I am all for the club getting involved with local > charities, and I like the Russell Crowe "All Leeds Aren't We?" Twitter video > for Toby, but I thought the pre-match stuff perhaps went a bit too far, and > was a clear distraction to the players. Our players have a hard time being > aggressive at the best of times. That build up virtually guaranteed they > wouldn't be focused at kick-off. > > > As far as the rest of the game, well, I've been saying it since very early in > the season: we are not aggressive enough, particularly in midfield. Even in > the games we were winning in August and September, our midfielders in > particular were being muscled off the ball too easily. Pass and move football > is very difficult to play in the Championship if your players lack the > physical strength and attitude to hold off a challenger prior to releasing > the ball. We are crying out for a Roy Keane/Patrick Vieira type of midfield > general (or if you prefer, a Billy Bremner/Johnny Giles/David Batty/Olivier > Dacourt type). Someone who can receive a pass, hold off a challenger and then > play a good, accurate pass to the feet of a teammate, while also being able > to put in a few crunching, intimidating tackles early in the game to make the > opposition players scared to be on the ball. I do not think we have any > players remotely like that in our squad. Ronaldo Vieira is the closest. > Buying someone to fi ll > that role should be our January transfer priority. > > > In the meantime, we also have a distinct lack of height in midfield, which > means that when the opposition press our defence, forcing Lonergan to kick it > long, we stand almost no chance of winning the resulting aerial duels, I > think it's worth thinking about a 3-2-4-1 formation that would at least > mitigate some of these factors. I would plump for Lonergan in goal (Wiedwald > appears to be a physical coward whose reluctance to put his body on the line > for the team has directly led to at least two goals.) As a defensive three > I'd go with Cooper, Jansson (we desperately need him back to his imperious > best) and Pennington. At right wing-back I'd go for Ayling, who actually > looks quite useful coming forward. Left-wing back is a bit harder, but I'd go > for Dallas to inject a bit of British aggression. I'm willing to listen to > arguments for Berardi, I'm just not sure of his qualities going forward. > Anita doesn't impress me at all. Too lightweight. As the two defensive > central midfielders I'd go > with Vieira and Shaughnessy. The latter was a midfielder at Reading, is a > decent passer of the ball and, crucially, is 6'3" tall. It would be his job > to win every high ball pumped into the middle of the park. > > > The four more advanced midfielders are tough choices. Saiz is a must. He has > the right attitude and almost got us a point on his own yesterday. The other > options - Phillips, Alioski, Klich, Hernandez, Roofe - all have their > weaknesses. Against teams where we might expect to see more of the ball, I'd > probably go with Hernandez, Phillips, Roofe and Alioski. If we're under the > cosh, perhaps I'd put Klich in. Up front I suppose I'd go with Lasogga, only > because there are no other options. A couple of games ago when Grot came on > as a sub the commentator said something about him being a very versatile > player, and I immediately thought, "Yes, he can play in a number of positions > and not score in any of them." > > > This team would feature six tall outfield players, so I would be playing for > every single set-piece possible, then getting Hernandez to swing the ball > into the area for those guys to get their heads on it. If we need a goal in > the last ten, pull one of the shorties off and put Grot on. That way we'd > have seven 6-foot-plus players jockeying for space in the opposition's > penalty area. > > > I also wonder if the club has
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Russell Crowe could have stumped up the lot surely. On Saturday, October 28, 2017, 12:41:12 PM EDT, Michael Benjamin wrote: I am sorry about your niece. I think the club should be involved in the community -- and should take a high profile. This feels very different though. If you are going to give, do it anonymously; that is true charity. This reeked of PR management and exploitation of a tragedy. Sure if the kid wanted to go out on the pitch then do it-- but why tell the world who he is and what he has? The club is rich enough to donate, and so are the players.And there are enough executive boxes to put the bight on. If the parents want to set up a charity fine, then do so. Nevertheless, this all had a touchy-feely PR spin; I really did not like it. And I am not saying don't help the kid. I am saying it gave me a bad taste. Head long into another banning? -Original Message- From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of nat...@sky.com Sent: 28 October 2017 19:27 To: {broken-address} ; richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd That first paragraph is spot on - good to see the club playing part in the community etc but what happens on the pitch has got to be the first and main priority - all the rest is just trimmings I feel for the lad and his parents (I lost my 6 year old neice a year ago after a long and painful illness) and it is good that the club and players are helping them BUT not when it may be to the detriment of what happens where it counts as far as LUFC goes DavePS great to see the u17s join the u20s as WORLD CHAMPIONS - lets hope the Premier League teams do not ruin these lads careers by insisting on buying foreign players rather than giving the youngsters a chance. Great comeback from 2 down. Who knows, maybe , just maybe we will have a first team in Qatar or wherever that can genuinely compete From: {broken-address} To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Saturday, 28 October 2017, 16:41 Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd A couple of thoughts: Christiansen has complained that the players' heads were still in the dressing room when the first goal went in. Has it crossed his mind at all that making the entire build up to kick-off about Toby, this terribly ill kid, complete with your central defender/captain carrying that kid out of the tunnel prior to kick off possibly distracted the players (and Cooper in particular) from getting their heads right for a really aggressive, tough Yorkshire derby? I am all for the club getting involved with local charities, and I like the Russell Crowe "All Leeds Aren't We?" Twitter video for Toby, but I thought the pre-match stuff perhaps went a bit too far, and was a clear distraction to the players. Our players have a hard time being aggressive at the best of times. That build up virtually guaranteed they wouldn't be focused at kick-off. As far as the rest of the game, well, I've been saying it since very early in the season: we are not aggressive enough, particularly in midfield. Even in the games we were winning in August and September, our midfielders in particular were being muscled off the ball too easily. Pass and move football is very difficult to play in the Championship if your players lack the physical strength and attitude to hold off a challenger prior to releasing the ball. We are crying out for a Roy Keane/Patrick Vieira type of midfield general (or if you prefer, a Billy Bremner/Johnny Giles/David Batty/Olivier Dacourt type). Someone who can receive a pass, hold off a challenger and then play a good, accurate pass to the feet of a teammate, while also being able to put in a few crunching, intimidating tackles early in the game to make the opposition players scared to be on the ball. I do not think we have any players remotely like that in our squad. Ronaldo Vieira is the closest. Buying someone to fill that role should be our January transfer priority. In the meantime, we also have a distinct lack of height in midfield, which means that when the opposition press our defence, forcing Lonergan to kick it long, we stand almost no chance of winning the resulting aerial duels, I think it's worth thinking about a 3-2-4-1 formation that would at least mitigate some of these factors. I would plump for Lonergan in goal (Wiedwald appears to be a physical coward whose reluctance to put his body on the line for the team has directly led to at least two goals.) As a defensive three I'd go with Cooper, Jansson (we desperately need him back to his imperious best) and Pennington. At right wing-back I'd go for Ayling, who actually looks quite useful coming forward. Left-wing back is a bit harder, but I'd go for Dallas to inject a bit of British aggression. I'm willing to listen to arguments for Berardi, I'm just not sure of
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Yeah the U17s were really good all tournament. Beat Spain and Brazil. On Saturday, October 28, 2017, 12:27:16 PM EDT, nat...@sky.com wrote: That first paragraph is spot on - good to see the club playing part in the community etc but what happens on the pitch has got to be the first and main priority - all the rest is just trimmings I feel for the lad and his parents (I lost my 6 year old neice a year ago after a long and painful illness) and it is good that the club and players are helping them BUT not when it may be to the detriment of what happens where it counts as far as LUFC goes DavePS great to see the u17s join the u20s as WORLD CHAMPIONS - lets hope the Premier League teams do not ruin these lads careers by insisting on buying foreign players rather than giving the youngsters a chance. Great comeback from 2 down. Who knows, maybe , just maybe we will have a first team in Qatar or wherever that can genuinely compete From: {broken-address} To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Saturday, 28 October 2017, 16:41 Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd A couple of thoughts: Christiansen has complained that the players' heads were still in the dressing room when the first goal went in. Has it crossed his mind at all that making the entire build up to kick-off about Toby, this terribly ill kid, complete with your central defender/captain carrying that kid out of the tunnel prior to kick off possibly distracted the players (and Cooper in particular) from getting their heads right for a really aggressive, tough Yorkshire derby? I am all for the club getting involved with local charities, and I like the Russell Crowe "All Leeds Aren't We?" Twitter video for Toby, but I thought the pre-match stuff perhaps went a bit too far, and was a clear distraction to the players. Our players have a hard time being aggressive at the best of times. That build up virtually guaranteed they wouldn't be focused at kick-off. As far as the rest of the game, well, I've been saying it since very early in the season: we are not aggressive enough, particularly in midfield. Even in the games we were winning in August and September, our midfielders in particular were being muscled off the ball too easily. Pass and move football is very difficult to play in the Championship if your players lack the physical strength and attitude to hold off a challenger prior to releasing the ball. We are crying out for a Roy Keane/Patrick Vieira type of midfield general (or if you prefer, a Billy Bremner/Johnny Giles/David Batty/Olivier Dacourt type). Someone who can receive a pass, hold off a challenger and then play a good, accurate pass to the feet of a teammate, while also being able to put in a few crunching, intimidating tackles early in the game to make the opposition players scared to be on the ball. I do not think we have any players remotely like that in our squad. Ronaldo Vieira is the closest. Buying someone to fill that role should be our January transfer priority. In the meantime, we also have a distinct lack of height in midfield, which means that when the opposition press our defence, forcing Lonergan to kick it long, we stand almost no chance of winning the resulting aerial duels, I think it's worth thinking about a 3-2-4-1 formation that would at least mitigate some of these factors. I would plump for Lonergan in goal (Wiedwald appears to be a physical coward whose reluctance to put his body on the line for the team has directly led to at least two goals.) As a defensive three I'd go with Cooper, Jansson (we desperately need him back to his imperious best) and Pennington. At right wing-back I'd go for Ayling, who actually looks quite useful coming forward. Left-wing back is a bit harder, but I'd go for Dallas to inject a bit of British aggression. I'm willing to listen to arguments for Berardi, I'm just not sure of his qualities going forward. Anita doesn't impress me at all. Too lightweight. As the two defensive central midfielders I'd go with Vieira and Shaughnessy. The latter was a midfielder at Reading, is a decent passer of the ball and, crucially, is 6'3" tall. It would be his job to win every high ball pumped into the middle of the park. The four more advanced midfielders are tough choices. Saiz is a must. He has the right attitude and almost got us a point on his own yesterday. The other options - Phillips, Alioski, Klich, Hernandez, Roofe - all have their weaknesses. Against teams where we might expect to see more of the ball, I'd probably go with Hernandez, Phillips, Roofe and Alioski. If we're under the cosh, perhaps I'd put Klich in. Up front I suppose I'd go with Lasogga, only because there are no other options. A couple of games ago when Grot came on as a sub the commentator said something about him being a very versatile
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I am sorry about your niece. I think the club should be involved in the community -- and should take a high profile. This feels very different though. If you are going to give, do it anonymously; that is true charity. This reeked of PR management and exploitation of a tragedy. Sure if the kid wanted to go out on the pitch then do it-- but why tell the world who he is and what he has? The club is rich enough to donate, and so are the players.And there are enough executive boxes to put the bight on. If the parents want to set up a charity fine, then do so. Nevertheless, this all had a touchy-feely PR spin; I really did not like it. And I am not saying don't help the kid. I am saying it gave me a bad taste. Head long into another banning? -Original Message- From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of nat...@sky.com Sent: 28 October 2017 19:27 To: {broken-address} ; richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd That first paragraph is spot on - good to see the club playing part in the community etc but what happens on the pitch has got to be the first and main priority - all the rest is just trimmings I feel for the lad and his parents (I lost my 6 year old neice a year ago after a long and painful illness) and it is good that the club and players are helping them BUT not when it may be to the detriment of what happens where it counts as far as LUFC goes DavePS great to see the u17s join the u20s as WORLD CHAMPIONS - lets hope the Premier League teams do not ruin these lads careers by insisting on buying foreign players rather than giving the youngsters a chance. Great comeback from 2 down. Who knows, maybe , just maybe we will have a first team in Qatar or wherever that can genuinely compete From: {broken-address} To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Saturday, 28 October 2017, 16:41 Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd A couple of thoughts: Christiansen has complained that the players' heads were still in the dressing room when the first goal went in. Has it crossed his mind at all that making the entire build up to kick-off about Toby, this terribly ill kid, complete with your central defender/captain carrying that kid out of the tunnel prior to kick off possibly distracted the players (and Cooper in particular) from getting their heads right for a really aggressive, tough Yorkshire derby? I am all for the club getting involved with local charities, and I like the Russell Crowe "All Leeds Aren't We?" Twitter video for Toby, but I thought the pre-match stuff perhaps went a bit too far, and was a clear distraction to the players. Our players have a hard time being aggressive at the best of times. That build up virtually guaranteed they wouldn't be focused at kick-off. As far as the rest of the game, well, I've been saying it since very early in the season: we are not aggressive enough, particularly in midfield. Even in the games we were winning in August and September, our midfielders in particular were being muscled off the ball too easily. Pass and move football is very difficult to play in the Championship if your players lack the physical strength and attitude to hold off a challenger prior to releasing the ball. We are crying out for a Roy Keane/Patrick Vieira type of midfield general (or if you prefer, a Billy Bremner/Johnny Giles/David Batty/Olivier Dacourt type). Someone who can receive a pass, hold off a challenger and then play a good, accurate pass to the feet of a teammate, while also being able to put in a few crunching, intimidating tackles early in the game to make the opposition players scared to be on the ball. I do not think we have any players remotely like that in our squad. Ronaldo Vieira is the closest. Buying someone to fill that role should be our January transfer priority. In the meantime, we also have a distinct lack of height in midfield, which means that when the opposition press our defence, forcing Lonergan to kick it long, we stand almost no chance of winning the resulting aerial duels, I think it's worth thinking about a 3-2-4-1 formation that would at least mitigate some of these factors. I would plump for Lonergan in goal (Wiedwald appears to be a physical coward whose reluctance to put his body on the line for the team has directly led to at least two goals.) As a defensive three I'd go with Cooper, Jansson (we desperately need him back to his imperious best) and Pennington. At right wing-back I'd go for Ayling, who actually looks quite useful coming forward. Left-wing back is a bit harder, but I'd go for Dallas to inject a bit of British aggression. I'm willing to listen to arguments for Berardi, I'm just not sure of his qualities going forward. Anita doesn't impress me at all. Too lightweight. As the two defensive central midfielders I'd go
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That first paragraph is spot on - good to see the club playing part in the community etc but what happens on the pitch has got to be the first and main priority - all the rest is just trimmings I feel for the lad and his parents (I lost my 6 year old neice a year ago after a long and painful illness) and it is good that the club and players are helping them BUT not when it may be to the detriment of what happens where it counts as far as LUFC goes DavePS great to see the u17s join the u20s as WORLD CHAMPIONS - lets hope the Premier League teams do not ruin these lads careers by insisting on buying foreign players rather than giving the youngsters a chance. Great comeback from 2 down. Who knows, maybe , just maybe we will have a first team in Qatar or wherever that can genuinely compete From: {broken-address} To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Saturday, 28 October 2017, 16:41 Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd A couple of thoughts: Christiansen has complained that the players' heads were still in the dressing room when the first goal went in. Has it crossed his mind at all that making the entire build up to kick-off about Toby, this terribly ill kid, complete with your central defender/captain carrying that kid out of the tunnel prior to kick off possibly distracted the players (and Cooper in particular) from getting their heads right for a really aggressive, tough Yorkshire derby? I am all for the club getting involved with local charities, and I like the Russell Crowe "All Leeds Aren't We?" Twitter video for Toby, but I thought the pre-match stuff perhaps went a bit too far, and was a clear distraction to the players. Our players have a hard time being aggressive at the best of times. That build up virtually guaranteed they wouldn't be focused at kick-off. As far as the rest of the game, well, I've been saying it since very early in the season: we are not aggressive enough, particularly in midfield. Even in the games we were winning in August and September, our midfielders in particular were being muscled off the ball too easily. Pass and move football is very difficult to play in the Championship if your players lack the physical strength and attitude to hold off a challenger prior to releasing the ball. We are crying out for a Roy Keane/Patrick Vieira type of midfield general (or if you prefer, a Billy Bremner/Johnny Giles/David Batty/Olivier Dacourt type). Someone who can receive a pass, hold off a challenger and then play a good, accurate pass to the feet of a teammate, while also being able to put in a few crunching, intimidating tackles early in the game to make the opposition players scared to be on the ball. I do not think we have any players remotely like that in our squad. Ronaldo Vieira is the closest. Buying someone to fill that role should be our January transfer priority. In the meantime, we also have a distinct lack of height in midfield, which means that when the opposition press our defence, forcing Lonergan to kick it long, we stand almost no chance of winning the resulting aerial duels, I think it's worth thinking about a 3-2-4-1 formation that would at least mitigate some of these factors. I would plump for Lonergan in goal (Wiedwald appears to be a physical coward whose reluctance to put his body on the line for the team has directly led to at least two goals.) As a defensive three I'd go with Cooper, Jansson (we desperately need him back to his imperious best) and Pennington. At right wing-back I'd go for Ayling, who actually looks quite useful coming forward. Left-wing back is a bit harder, but I'd go for Dallas to inject a bit of British aggression. I'm willing to listen to arguments for Berardi, I'm just not sure of his qualities going forward. Anita doesn't impress me at all. Too lightweight. As the two defensive central midfielders I'd go with Vieira and Shaughnessy. The latter was a midfielder at Reading, is a decent passer of the ball and, crucially, is 6'3" tall. It would be his job to win every high ball pumped into the middle of the park. The four more advanced midfielders are tough choices. Saiz is a must. He has the right attitude and almost got us a point on his own yesterday. The other options - Phillips, Alioski, Klich, Hernandez, Roofe - all have their weaknesses. Against teams where we might expect to see more of the ball, I'd probably go with Hernandez, Phillips, Roofe and Alioski. If we're under the cosh, perhaps I'd put Klich in. Up front I suppose I'd go with Lasogga, only because there are no other options. A couple of games ago when Grot came on as a sub the commentator said something about him being a very versatile player, and I immediately thought, "Yes, he can play in a number of positions and not score in any of them." This team would feature si
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A couple of thoughts: Christiansen has complained that the players' heads were still in the dressing room when the first goal went in. Has it crossed his mind at all that making the entire build up to kick-off about Toby, this terribly ill kid, complete with your central defender/captain carrying that kid out of the tunnel prior to kick off possibly distracted the players (and Cooper in particular) from getting their heads right for a really aggressive, tough Yorkshire derby? I am all for the club getting involved with local charities, and I like the Russell Crowe "All Leeds Aren't We?" Twitter video for Toby, but I thought the pre-match stuff perhaps went a bit too far, and was a clear distraction to the players. Our players have a hard time being aggressive at the best of times. That build up virtually guaranteed they wouldn't be focused at kick-off. As far as the rest of the game, well, I've been saying it since very early in the season: we are not aggressive enough, particularly in midfield. Even in the games we were winning in August and September, our midfielders in particular were being muscled off the ball too easily. Pass and move football is very difficult to play in the Championship if your players lack the physical strength and attitude to hold off a challenger prior to releasing the ball. We are crying out for a Roy Keane/Patrick Vieira type of midfield general (or if you prefer, a Billy Bremner/Johnny Giles/David Batty/Olivier Dacourt type). Someone who can receive a pass, hold off a challenger and then play a good, accurate pass to the feet of a teammate, while also being able to put in a few crunching, intimidating tackles early in the game to make the opposition players scared to be on the ball. I do not think we have any players remotely like that in our squad. Ronaldo Vieira is the closest. Buying someone to fill that role should be our January transfer priority. In the meantime, we also have a distinct lack of height in midfield, which means that when the opposition press our defence, forcing Lonergan to kick it long, we stand almost no chance of winning the resulting aerial duels, I think it's worth thinking about a 3-2-4-1 formation that would at least mitigate some of these factors. I would plump for Lonergan in goal (Wiedwald appears to be a physical coward whose reluctance to put his body on the line for the team has directly led to at least two goals.) As a defensive three I'd go with Cooper, Jansson (we desperately need him back to his imperious best) and Pennington. At right wing-back I'd go for Ayling, who actually looks quite useful coming forward. Left-wing back is a bit harder, but I'd go for Dallas to inject a bit of British aggression. I'm willing to listen to arguments for Berardi, I'm just not sure of his qualities going forward. Anita doesn't impress me at all. Too lightweight. As the two defensive central midfielders I'd go with Vieira and Shaughnessy. The latter was a midfielder at Reading, is a decent passer of the ball and, crucially, is 6'3" tall. It would be his job to win every high ball pumped into the middle of the park. The four more advanced midfielders are tough choices. Saiz is a must. He has the right attitude and almost got us a point on his own yesterday. The other options - Phillips, Alioski, Klich, Hernandez, Roofe - all have their weaknesses. Against teams where we might expect to see more of the ball, I'd probably go with Hernandez, Phillips, Roofe and Alioski. If we're under the cosh, perhaps I'd put Klich in. Up front I suppose I'd go with Lasogga, only because there are no other options. A couple of games ago when Grot came on as a sub the commentator said something about him being a very versatile player, and I immediately thought, "Yes, he can play in a number of positions and not score in any of them." This team would feature six tall outfield players, so I would be playing for every single set-piece possible, then getting Hernandez to swing the ball into the area for those guys to get their heads on it. If we need a goal in the last ten, pull one of the shorties off and put Grot on. That way we'd have seven 6-foot-plus players jockeying for space in the opposition's penalty area. I also wonder if the club has a sports psychologist. We do not play with enough aggression. Somehow, that must change if we are to achieve anything this season. MOT Sean -Original Message- From: {broken-address} Richard Walker To: leedslist Sent: Sat, Oct 28, 2017 5:03 am Subject: [LU] Sheff Utd a few thoughts I was very impressed with the way Sheff Utd started. They played some of the best football I've seen for a while and all their players seemed to know where each other were and in Duffy they had the man of the match and the most intelligent footbal
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Lasogga - a big man who plays like a fairy ;-) Absolutely spot on. Given how frustrated he must have been you’d think he’d try and knack a defender or two, but he falls over way too easily and APPEARS to not give a sh*t. I’m a big fan of playing your best players in their best positions - build the team around Saiz and stop f*cking around, get 2 up front, and get on the phone to George Graham for some advice. This manager may well have something, but if he doesn’t learn quickly, he’ll be gone. Really pissed me off last night. Sent from my iPad > On 28 Oct 2017, at 10:53, {broken-address} Richard Walker > wrote: > > It's definitely Garry Monk tactics - one up front. Just don't understand it ? > > From: Jim Moran > To: Richard Walker ; "leedslist@gn.apc.org" > > Sent: Saturday, 28 October 2017, 10:27 > Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd > > Cooper went off with a dead leg. Looked like he started with one to me. > I think we lost because we played one up front against 3 centre halves. That > allowed two of them to easily manage Lasogga and gave them an extra man in > midfield. Every loose ball in the middle was picked up by them. > I can see them going up. I can see us top half, but need a lot of new players > next season and another coach for the defence. > Boro supporting mate of mine went and said it looked like a Garry Monk side! > > On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 at 10:03, {broken-address} Richard Walker > wrote: > > a few thoughts > I was very impressed with the way Sheff Utd started. They played some of the > best football I've seen for a while and all their players seemed to know > where each other were and in Duffy they had the man of the match and the most > intelligent footballer I've seen for a while. I'd get a bid in for him in > January. If only our midfielders had the awareness and poise of Duffy. He > found time on the ball and used it effectively however that applied to just > about everyone in their team. Billy Sharpe, who I always thought was lively > but never convincing at Leeds, looked like a totally different player and if > it wasn't for Lonergan he could have / should have had a hatful in the first > half. > The Blades played with 2 effective wingers and full backs who also came > forward and contributed. It was actually good to watch and I rarely say that > about the opposition. Their style is similar to what we are trying to achieve > but I don't think we have the players to do it at the moment. > Their goal was a result of great link up play and good movement from Sharpe > in the box but it looked like he wasn't marked ? Need to see it again but if > a little bloke like Sharp gets a free header from 4 yards you have to ask > questions of our 6 ft central defenders. > I thought our defence crumbled under the attacks. Cooper and Pennington as > first choice is as bad a decision as selling Rob Green and I'm losing faith > in our attacker manager who doesn't seem to know who are the best defenders.. > Cooper for me is 4th in line at the moment yet if he is fit he plays and to > top it all he is captain. Bad decision after bad decision. > I also think we have to look a bit further than the central two who were not > helped by Ayling who I thought had a poor game defensively. Anita also > struggled against lively attackers. I like Anita but I don't think he's a > left back. > In midfield, we started with Philips playing as the 'no 10' and Saiz on the > left wing. Another bad decision, Philips hardly touching the ball and I > didn't know Saiz was on the pitch in the first 30 minutes. As for Lasogga, > big questions have to be asked. Can he really play as a lone striker in this > league when he's constantly outbattled and out muscled off the ball so easily > ? He looks powder puff to me. > Allioski saw a lot of the ball on the right but he failed to deliver on every > occasion. > Any positives ? > Well, yes. I thought we responded really well to going 1 down and unlike some > performances we didn't crumble. TC made a good decision in moving Saiz into > the 'no 10' position however this meant Philips was asked to play as a left > winger which rendered him even more useless than he had been previous to > that. > At one point after we equalised I thought we had them on the ropes and their > slick football stopped and we did take control but a mixture of an inability > to pass and keep the ball (Lasogga, Allioski, Ayling) let them back into it > and normally service was resumed when their 10 year old sub came on and > showed Lasogga how to play as a centre forward. Very, very frustrating. > Saiz tried as a one man show
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Think Saiz let the crosser go? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 28, 2017, at 5:13 AM, Simon McNally wrote: > > First goal I thought was Anita and Viera letting their man go - he drifted > off the back of them and had acres of time and space to pick his cross. Not > sure you can blame the marking in the middle - one cb had to shift to cover > the bloke who crossed leaving the other with two to mark. Someone with > Sharp’s experience was always going to find space there > > S > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 28 Oct 2017, at 10:03, {broken-address} Richard Walker >> wrote: >> >> a few thoughts >> I was very impressed with the way Sheff Utd started. They played some of the >> best football I've seen for a while and all their players seemed to know >> where each other were and in Duffy they had the man of the match and the >> most intelligent footballer I've seen for a while. I'd get a bid in for him >> in January. If only our midfielders had the awareness and poise of Duffy. He >> found time on the ball and used it effectively however that applied to just >> about everyone in their team. Billy Sharpe, who I always thought was lively >> but never convincing at Leeds, looked like a totally different player and if >> it wasn't for Lonergan he could have / should have had a hatful in the first >> half. >> The Blades played with 2 effective wingers and full backs who also came >> forward and contributed. It was actually good to watch and I rarely say that >> about the opposition. Their style is similar to what we are trying to >> achieve but I don't think we have the players to do it at the moment. >> Their goal was a result of great link up play and good movement from Sharpe >> in the box but it looked like he wasn't marked ? Need to see it again but if >> a little bloke like Sharp gets a free header from 4 yards you have to ask >> questions of our 6 ft central defenders. >> I thought our defence crumbled under the attacks. Cooper and Pennington as >> first choice is as bad a decision as selling Rob Green and I'm losing faith >> in our attacker manager who doesn't seem to know who are the best >> defenders.. Cooper for me is 4th in line at the moment yet if he is fit he >> plays and to top it all he is captain. Bad decision after bad decision. >> I also think we have to look a bit further than the central two who were not >> helped by Ayling who I thought had a poor game defensively. Anita also >> struggled against lively attackers. I like Anita but I don't think he's a >> left back. >> In midfield, we started with Philips playing as the 'no 10' and Saiz on the >> left wing. Another bad decision, Philips hardly touching the ball and I >> didn't know Saiz was on the pitch in the first 30 minutes. As for Lasogga, >> big questions have to be asked. Can he really play as a lone striker in this >> league when he's constantly outbattled and out muscled off the ball so >> easily ? He looks powder puff to me. >> Allioski saw a lot of the ball on the right but he failed to deliver on >> every occasion. >> Any positives ? >> Well, yes. I thought we responded really well to going 1 down and unlike >> some performances we didn't crumble. TC made a good decision in moving Saiz >> into the 'no 10' position however this meant Philips was asked to play as a >> left winger which rendered him even more useless than he had been previous >> to that. >> At one point after we equalised I thought we had them on the ropes and their >> slick football stopped and we did take control but a mixture of an inability >> to pass and keep the ball (Lasogga, Allioski, Ayling) let them back into it >> and normally service was resumed when their 10 year old sub came on and >> showed Lasogga how to play as a centre forward. Very, very frustrating. >> Saiz tried as a one man show to win the game and he really had them worried >> but he can't do it on his own and we can't expect him week in week out to be >> the midfield and the attack. >> Overall, I'd say it was a fair result. I thought we battled well to get back >> in the game but ultimately key players let us down today. >> Lonergan - 8. Kept us in it first half. >> Ayling - 4. I thought it was his worst game for Leeds - he has always >> struggled IMO on the back foot against pacey opposition. Not a premier >> league defender as some think. >> Anita - 5. Struggled >> Pennington - 6. I thought first 20 minutes he was all over the place but I >> wouldn't completely blame him. I thought he improved massively in the second >> half and I thought he defended pretty well overall. I'd settle for him and >> Jansson to be given a run in the team. Stopped fucking about with the >> pairings TC. >> Cooper - 3. I've never been convinced by him and against tricky and speedy >> opponents and lik Pennington he started really shakily but he didn't improve >> until he got injured. Is he playing with an injury ? He's very inconsistent >> and the de
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Very fair I would say. Except I still rate okane more than you. Phillips we agree on. I really want Alioski to come good probably cos of living in Switzerland and having some weird affinity for FC Lugano. But tbh he is really disappointing lately. Thought he started the season well. I am giving Lasogga more time as he was pretty class the first few games. And the scum effin won. What a weekend! Nick Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 28, 2017, at 5:03 AM, {broken-address} Richard Walker > wrote: > > a few thoughts > I was very impressed with the way Sheff Utd started. They played some of the > best football I've seen for a while and all their players seemed to know > where each other were and in Duffy they had the man of the match and the most > intelligent footballer I've seen for a while. I'd get a bid in for him in > January. If only our midfielders had the awareness and poise of Duffy. He > found time on the ball and used it effectively however that applied to just > about everyone in their team. Billy Sharpe, who I always thought was lively > but never convincing at Leeds, looked like a totally different player and if > it wasn't for Lonergan he could have / should have had a hatful in the first > half. > The Blades played with 2 effective wingers and full backs who also came > forward and contributed. It was actually good to watch and I rarely say that > about the opposition. Their style is similar to what we are trying to achieve > but I don't think we have the players to do it at the moment. > Their goal was a result of great link up play and good movement from Sharpe > in the box but it looked like he wasn't marked ? Need to see it again but if > a little bloke like Sharp gets a free header from 4 yards you have to ask > questions of our 6 ft central defenders. > I thought our defence crumbled under the attacks. Cooper and Pennington as > first choice is as bad a decision as selling Rob Green and I'm losing faith > in our attacker manager who doesn't seem to know who are the best defenders.. > Cooper for me is 4th in line at the moment yet if he is fit he plays and to > top it all he is captain. Bad decision after bad decision. > I also think we have to look a bit further than the central two who were not > helped by Ayling who I thought had a poor game defensively. Anita also > struggled against lively attackers. I like Anita but I don't think he's a > left back. > In midfield, we started with Philips playing as the 'no 10' and Saiz on the > left wing. Another bad decision, Philips hardly touching the ball and I > didn't know Saiz was on the pitch in the first 30 minutes. As for Lasogga, > big questions have to be asked. Can he really play as a lone striker in this > league when he's constantly outbattled and out muscled off the ball so easily > ? He looks powder puff to me. > Allioski saw a lot of the ball on the right but he failed to deliver on every > occasion. > Any positives ? > Well, yes. I thought we responded really well to going 1 down and unlike some > performances we didn't crumble. TC made a good decision in moving Saiz into > the 'no 10' position however this meant Philips was asked to play as a left > winger which rendered him even more useless than he had been previous to > that. > At one point after we equalised I thought we had them on the ropes and their > slick football stopped and we did take control but a mixture of an inability > to pass and keep the ball (Lasogga, Allioski, Ayling) let them back into it > and normally service was resumed when their 10 year old sub came on and > showed Lasogga how to play as a centre forward. Very, very frustrating. > Saiz tried as a one man show to win the game and he really had them worried > but he can't do it on his own and we can't expect him week in week out to be > the midfield and the attack. > Overall, I'd say it was a fair result. I thought we battled well to get back > in the game but ultimately key players let us down today. > Lonergan - 8. Kept us in it first half. > Ayling - 4. I thought it was his worst game for Leeds - he has always > struggled IMO on the back foot against pacey opposition. Not a premier league > defender as some think. > Anita - 5. Struggled > Pennington - 6. I thought first 20 minutes he was all over the place but I > wouldn't completely blame him. I thought he improved massively in the second > half and I thought he defended pretty well overall. I'd settle for him and > Jansson to be given a run in the team. Stopped fucking about with the > pairings TC. > Cooper - 3. I've never been convinced by him and against tricky and speedy > opponents and lik Pennington he started really shakily but he didn't improve > until he got injured. Is he playing with an injury ? He's very inconsistent > and the decision to make him captain is a really bad one. > Philips - 3. Another good goal masking a performance that contributed > nothing. Everyone will
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Interestingly it seems Duffy is a bit of a journeyman and in his early 30s if I heard the commentary right. Strange how some players who look really good just don’t make it sometimes. Nick Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 28, 2017, at 5:03 AM, {broken-address} Richard Walker > wrote: > > a few thoughts > I was very impressed with the way Sheff Utd started. They played some of the > best football I've seen for a while and all their players seemed to know > where each other were and in Duffy they had the man of the match and the most > intelligent footballer I've seen for a while. I'd get a bid in for him in > January. If only our midfielders had the awareness and poise of Duffy. He > found time on the ball and used it effectively however that applied to just > about everyone in their team. Billy Sharpe, who I always thought was lively > but never convincing at Leeds, looked like a totally different player and if > it wasn't for Lonergan he could have / should have had a hatful in the first > half. > The Blades played with 2 effective wingers and full backs who also came > forward and contributed. It was actually good to watch and I rarely say that > about the opposition. Their style is similar to what we are trying to achieve > but I don't think we have the players to do it at the moment. > Their goal was a result of great link up play and good movement from Sharpe > in the box but it looked like he wasn't marked ? Need to see it again but if > a little bloke like Sharp gets a free header from 4 yards you have to ask > questions of our 6 ft central defenders. > I thought our defence crumbled under the attacks. Cooper and Pennington as > first choice is as bad a decision as selling Rob Green and I'm losing faith > in our attacker manager who doesn't seem to know who are the best defenders.. > Cooper for me is 4th in line at the moment yet if he is fit he plays and to > top it all he is captain. Bad decision after bad decision. > I also think we have to look a bit further than the central two who were not > helped by Ayling who I thought had a poor game defensively. Anita also > struggled against lively attackers. I like Anita but I don't think he's a > left back. > In midfield, we started with Philips playing as the 'no 10' and Saiz on the > left wing. Another bad decision, Philips hardly touching the ball and I > didn't know Saiz was on the pitch in the first 30 minutes. As for Lasogga, > big questions have to be asked. Can he really play as a lone striker in this > league when he's constantly outbattled and out muscled off the ball so easily > ? He looks powder puff to me. > Allioski saw a lot of the ball on the right but he failed to deliver on every > occasion. > Any positives ? > Well, yes. I thought we responded really well to going 1 down and unlike some > performances we didn't crumble. TC made a good decision in moving Saiz into > the 'no 10' position however this meant Philips was asked to play as a left > winger which rendered him even more useless than he had been previous to > that. > At one point after we equalised I thought we had them on the ropes and their > slick football stopped and we did take control but a mixture of an inability > to pass and keep the ball (Lasogga, Allioski, Ayling) let them back into it > and normally service was resumed when their 10 year old sub came on and > showed Lasogga how to play as a centre forward. Very, very frustrating. > Saiz tried as a one man show to win the game and he really had them worried > but he can't do it on his own and we can't expect him week in week out to be > the midfield and the attack. > Overall, I'd say it was a fair result. I thought we battled well to get back > in the game but ultimately key players let us down today. > Lonergan - 8. Kept us in it first half. > Ayling - 4. I thought it was his worst game for Leeds - he has always > struggled IMO on the back foot against pacey opposition. Not a premier league > defender as some think. > Anita - 5. Struggled > Pennington - 6. I thought first 20 minutes he was all over the place but I > wouldn't completely blame him. I thought he improved massively in the second > half and I thought he defended pretty well overall. I'd settle for him and > Jansson to be given a run in the team. Stopped fucking about with the > pairings TC. > Cooper - 3. I've never been convinced by him and against tricky and speedy > opponents and lik Pennington he started really shakily but he didn't improve > until he got injured. Is he playing with an injury ? He's very inconsistent > and the decision to make him captain is a really bad one. > Philips - 3. Another good goal masking a performance that contributed > nothing. Everyone will remember the goal and say that justifies why he is > one of the first names on the teamsheet. I say no ! His general play is not > good enough and putting in the odd hospital tackle doesn't represent a good > perfo
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I’d play 3 at the back like they did. Gives you 3/5 in midfield and 2 up front. We’re also suffering for not buying a left back Sent from my iPhone > On 28 Oct 2017, at 10:53, {broken-address} Richard Walker > wrote: > > It's definitely Garry Monk tactics - one up front. Just don't understand it ? > > From: Jim Moran > To: Richard Walker ; "leedslist@gn.apc.org" > > Sent: Saturday, 28 October 2017, 10:27 > Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd > > Cooper went off with a dead leg. Looked like he started with one to me. > I think we lost because we played one up front against 3 centre halves. That > allowed two of them to easily manage Lasogga and gave them an extra man in > midfield. Every loose ball in the middle was picked up by them. > I can see them going up. I can see us top half, but need a lot of new players > next season and another coach for the defence. > Boro supporting mate of mine went and said it looked like a Garry Monk side! > > On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 at 10:03, {broken-address} Richard Walker > wrote: > > a few thoughts > I was very impressed with the way Sheff Utd started. They played some of the > best football I've seen for a while and all their players seemed to know > where each other were and in Duffy they had the man of the match and the most > intelligent footballer I've seen for a while. I'd get a bid in for him in > January. If only our midfielders had the awareness and poise of Duffy. He > found time on the ball and used it effectively however that applied to just > about everyone in their team. Billy Sharpe, who I always thought was lively > but never convincing at Leeds, looked like a totally different player and if > it wasn't for Lonergan he could have / should have had a hatful in the first > half. > The Blades played with 2 effective wingers and full backs who also came > forward and contributed. It was actually good to watch and I rarely say that > about the opposition. Their style is similar to what we are trying to achieve > but I don't think we have the players to do it at the moment. > Their goal was a result of great link up play and good movement from Sharpe > in the box but it looked like he wasn't marked ? Need to see it again but if > a little bloke like Sharp gets a free header from 4 yards you have to ask > questions of our 6 ft central defenders. > I thought our defence crumbled under the attacks. Cooper and Pennington as > first choice is as bad a decision as selling Rob Green and I'm losing faith > in our attacker manager who doesn't seem to know who are the best defenders.. > Cooper for me is 4th in line at the moment yet if he is fit he plays and to > top it all he is captain. Bad decision after bad decision. > I also think we have to look a bit further than the central two who were not > helped by Ayling who I thought had a poor game defensively. Anita also > struggled against lively attackers. I like Anita but I don't think he's a > left back. > In midfield, we started with Philips playing as the 'no 10' and Saiz on the > left wing. Another bad decision, Philips hardly touching the ball and I > didn't know Saiz was on the pitch in the first 30 minutes. As for Lasogga, > big questions have to be asked. Can he really play as a lone striker in this > league when he's constantly outbattled and out muscled off the ball so easily > ? He looks powder puff to me. > Allioski saw a lot of the ball on the right but he failed to deliver on every > occasion. > Any positives ? > Well, yes. I thought we responded really well to going 1 down and unlike some > performances we didn't crumble. TC made a good decision in moving Saiz into > the 'no 10' position however this meant Philips was asked to play as a left > winger which rendered him even more useless than he had been previous to > that. > At one point after we equalised I thought we had them on the ropes and their > slick football stopped and we did take control but a mixture of an inability > to pass and keep the ball (Lasogga, Allioski, Ayling) let them back into it > and normally service was resumed when their 10 year old sub came on and > showed Lasogga how to play as a centre forward. Very, very frustrating. > Saiz tried as a one man show to win the game and he really had them worried > but he can't do it on his own and we can't expect him week in week out to be > the midfield and the attack. > Overall, I'd say it was a fair result. I thought we battled well to get back > in the game but ultimately key players let us down today. > Lonergan - 8. Kept us in it first half. > Ayling - 4. I thought it was his wo
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It's definitely Garry Monk tactics - one up front. Just don't understand it ? From: Jim Moran To: Richard Walker ; "leedslist@gn.apc.org" Sent: Saturday, 28 October 2017, 10:27 Subject: Re: [LU] Sheff Utd Cooper went off with a dead leg. Looked like he started with one to me. I think we lost because we played one up front against 3 centre halves. That allowed two of them to easily manage Lasogga and gave them an extra man in midfield. Every loose ball in the middle was picked up by them. I can see them going up. I can see us top half, but need a lot of new players next season and another coach for the defence. Boro supporting mate of mine went and said it looked like a Garry Monk side! On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 at 10:03, {broken-address} Richard Walker wrote: a few thoughts I was very impressed with the way Sheff Utd started. They played some of the best football I've seen for a while and all their players seemed to know where each other were and in Duffy they had the man of the match and the most intelligent footballer I've seen for a while. I'd get a bid in for him in January. If only our midfielders had the awareness and poise of Duffy. He found time on the ball and used it effectively however that applied to just about everyone in their team. Billy Sharpe, who I always thought was lively but never convincing at Leeds, looked like a totally different player and if it wasn't for Lonergan he could have / should have had a hatful in the first half. The Blades played with 2 effective wingers and full backs who also came forward and contributed. It was actually good to watch and I rarely say that about the opposition. Their style is similar to what we are trying to achieve but I don't think we have the players to do it at the moment. Their goal was a result of great link up play and good movement from Sharpe in the box but it looked like he wasn't marked ? Need to see it again but if a little bloke like Sharp gets a free header from 4 yards you have to ask questions of our 6 ft central defenders. I thought our defence crumbled under the attacks. Cooper and Pennington as first choice is as bad a decision as selling Rob Green and I'm losing faith in our attacker manager who doesn't seem to know who are the best defenders. Cooper for me is 4th in line at the moment yet if he is fit he plays and to top it all he is captain. Bad decision after bad decision. I also think we have to look a bit further than the central two who were not helped by Ayling who I thought had a poor game defensively. Anita also struggled against lively attackers. I like Anita but I don't think he's a left back. In midfield, we started with Philips playing as the 'no 10' and Saiz on the left wing. Another bad decision, Philips hardly touching the ball and I didn't know Saiz was on the pitch in the first 30 minutes. As for Lasogga, big questions have to be asked. Can he really play as a lone striker in this league when he's constantly outbattled and out muscled off the ball so easily ? He looks powder puff to me. Allioski saw a lot of the ball on the right but he failed to deliver on every occasion. Any positives ? Well, yes. I thought we responded really well to going 1 down and unlike some performances we didn't crumble. TC made a good decision in moving Saiz into the 'no 10' position however this meant Philips was asked to play as a left winger which rendered him even more useless than he had been previous to that. At one point after we equalised I thought we had them on the ropes and their slick football stopped and we did take control but a mixture of an inability to pass and keep the ball (Lasogga, Allioski, Ayling) let them back into it and normally service was resumed when their 10 year old sub came on and showed Lasogga how to play as a centre forward. Very, very frustrating. Saiz tried as a one man show to win the game and he really had them worried but he can't do it on his own and we can't expect him week in week out to be the midfield and the attack. Overall, I'd say it was a fair result. I thought we battled well to get back in the game but ultimately key players let us down today. Lonergan - 8. Kept us in it first half. Ayling - 4. I thought it was his worst game for Leeds - he has always struggled IMO on the back foot against pacey opposition. Not a premier league defender as some think. Anita - 5. Struggled Pennington - 6. I thought first 20 minutes he was all over the place but I wouldn't completely blame him. I thought he improved massively in the second half and I thought he defended pretty well overall. I'd settle for him and Jansson to be given a run in the team. Stopped fucking about with the pairings TC. Cooper - 3. I've never been convinced by him and against tricky and speedy opponents and lik Penningto
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Cooper went off with a dead leg. Looked like he started with one to me. I think we lost because we played one up front against 3 centre halves. That allowed two of them to easily manage Lasogga and gave them an extra man in midfield. Every loose ball in the middle was picked up by them. I can see them going up. I can see us top half, but need a lot of new players next season and another coach for the defence. Boro supporting mate of mine went and said it looked like a Garry Monk side! On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 at 10:03, {broken-address} Richard Walker < richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote: > a few thoughts > I was very impressed with the way Sheff Utd started. They played some of > the best football I've seen for a while and all their players seemed to > know where each other were and in Duffy they had the man of the match and > the most intelligent footballer I've seen for a while. I'd get a bid in for > him in January. If only our midfielders had the awareness and poise of > Duffy. He found time on the ball and used it effectively however that > applied to just about everyone in their team. Billy Sharpe, who I always > thought was lively but never convincing at Leeds, looked like a totally > different player and if it wasn't for Lonergan he could have / should have > had a hatful in the first half. > The Blades played with 2 effective wingers and full backs who also came > forward and contributed. It was actually good to watch and I rarely say > that about the opposition. Their style is similar to what we are trying to > achieve but I don't think we have the players to do it at the moment. > Their goal was a result of great link up play and good movement from > Sharpe in the box but it looked like he wasn't marked ? Need to see it > again but if a little bloke like Sharp gets a free header from 4 yards you > have to ask questions of our 6 ft central defenders. > I thought our defence crumbled under the attacks. Cooper and Pennington as > first choice is as bad a decision as selling Rob Green and I'm losing faith > in our attacker manager who doesn't seem to know who are the best > defenders. Cooper for me is 4th in line at the moment yet if he is fit he > plays and to top it all he is captain. Bad decision after bad decision. > I also think we have to look a bit further than the central two who were > not helped by Ayling who I thought had a poor game defensively. Anita also > struggled against lively attackers. I like Anita but I don't think he's a > left back. > In midfield, we started with Philips playing as the 'no 10' and Saiz on > the left wing. Another bad decision, Philips hardly touching the ball and I > didn't know Saiz was on the pitch in the first 30 minutes. As for Lasogga, > big questions have to be asked. Can he really play as a lone striker in > this league when he's constantly outbattled and out muscled off the ball so > easily ? He looks powder puff to me. > Allioski saw a lot of the ball on the right but he failed to deliver on > every occasion. > Any positives ? > Well, yes. I thought we responded really well to going 1 down and unlike > some performances we didn't crumble. TC made a good decision in moving Saiz > into the 'no 10' position however this meant Philips was asked to play as a > left winger which rendered him even more useless than he had been previous > to that. > At one point after we equalised I thought we had them on the ropes and > their slick football stopped and we did take control but a mixture of an > inability to pass and keep the ball (Lasogga, Allioski, Ayling) let them > back into it and normally service was resumed when their 10 year old sub > came on and showed Lasogga how to play as a centre forward. Very, very > frustrating. > Saiz tried as a one man show to win the game and he really had them > worried but he can't do it on his own and we can't expect him week in week > out to be the midfield and the attack. > Overall, I'd say it was a fair result. I thought we battled well to get > back in the game but ultimately key players let us down today. > Lonergan - 8. Kept us in it first half. > Ayling - 4. I thought it was his worst game for Leeds - he has always > struggled IMO on the back foot against pacey opposition. Not a premier > league defender as some think. > Anita - 5. Struggled > Pennington - 6. I thought first 20 minutes he was all over the place but I > wouldn't completely blame him. I thought he improved massively in the > second half and I thought he defended pretty well overall. I'd settle for > him and Jansson to be given a run in the team. Stopped fucking about with > the pairings TC. > Cooper - 3. I've never been convinced by him and against tricky and speedy > opponents and lik Pennington he started really shakily but he didn't > improve until he got injured. Is he playing with an injury ? He's very > inconsistent and the decision to make him captain is a really bad one. > Philips - 3. Another good goal masking a performance
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First goal I thought was Anita and Viera letting their man go - he drifted off the back of them and had acres of time and space to pick his cross. Not sure you can blame the marking in the middle - one cb had to shift to cover the bloke who crossed leaving the other with two to mark. Someone with Sharp’s experience was always going to find space there S Sent from my iPhone > On 28 Oct 2017, at 10:03, {broken-address} Richard Walker > wrote: > > a few thoughts > I was very impressed with the way Sheff Utd started. They played some of the > best football I've seen for a while and all their players seemed to know > where each other were and in Duffy they had the man of the match and the most > intelligent footballer I've seen for a while. I'd get a bid in for him in > January. If only our midfielders had the awareness and poise of Duffy. He > found time on the ball and used it effectively however that applied to just > about everyone in their team. Billy Sharpe, who I always thought was lively > but never convincing at Leeds, looked like a totally different player and if > it wasn't for Lonergan he could have / should have had a hatful in the first > half. > The Blades played with 2 effective wingers and full backs who also came > forward and contributed. It was actually good to watch and I rarely say that > about the opposition. Their style is similar to what we are trying to achieve > but I don't think we have the players to do it at the moment. > Their goal was a result of great link up play and good movement from Sharpe > in the box but it looked like he wasn't marked ? Need to see it again but if > a little bloke like Sharp gets a free header from 4 yards you have to ask > questions of our 6 ft central defenders. > I thought our defence crumbled under the attacks. Cooper and Pennington as > first choice is as bad a decision as selling Rob Green and I'm losing faith > in our attacker manager who doesn't seem to know who are the best defenders.. > Cooper for me is 4th in line at the moment yet if he is fit he plays and to > top it all he is captain. Bad decision after bad decision. > I also think we have to look a bit further than the central two who were not > helped by Ayling who I thought had a poor game defensively. Anita also > struggled against lively attackers. I like Anita but I don't think he's a > left back. > In midfield, we started with Philips playing as the 'no 10' and Saiz on the > left wing. Another bad decision, Philips hardly touching the ball and I > didn't know Saiz was on the pitch in the first 30 minutes. As for Lasogga, > big questions have to be asked. Can he really play as a lone striker in this > league when he's constantly outbattled and out muscled off the ball so easily > ? He looks powder puff to me. > Allioski saw a lot of the ball on the right but he failed to deliver on every > occasion. > Any positives ? > Well, yes. I thought we responded really well to going 1 down and unlike some > performances we didn't crumble. TC made a good decision in moving Saiz into > the 'no 10' position however this meant Philips was asked to play as a left > winger which rendered him even more useless than he had been previous to > that. > At one point after we equalised I thought we had them on the ropes and their > slick football stopped and we did take control but a mixture of an inability > to pass and keep the ball (Lasogga, Allioski, Ayling) let them back into it > and normally service was resumed when their 10 year old sub came on and > showed Lasogga how to play as a centre forward. Very, very frustrating. > Saiz tried as a one man show to win the game and he really had them worried > but he can't do it on his own and we can't expect him week in week out to be > the midfield and the attack. > Overall, I'd say it was a fair result. I thought we battled well to get back > in the game but ultimately key players let us down today. > Lonergan - 8. Kept us in it first half. > Ayling - 4. I thought it was his worst game for Leeds - he has always > struggled IMO on the back foot against pacey opposition. Not a premier league > defender as some think. > Anita - 5. Struggled > Pennington - 6. I thought first 20 minutes he was all over the place but I > wouldn't completely blame him. I thought he improved massively in the second > half and I thought he defended pretty well overall. I'd settle for him and > Jansson to be given a run in the team. Stopped fucking about with the > pairings TC. > Cooper - 3. I've never been convinced by him and against tricky and speedy > opponents and lik Pennington he started really shakily but he didn't improve > until he got injured. Is he playing with an injury ? He's very inconsistent > and the decision to make him captain is a really bad one. > Philips - 3. Another good goal masking a performance that contributed > nothing. Everyone will remember the goal and say that justifies why he is
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a few thoughts I was very impressed with the way Sheff Utd started. They played some of the best football I've seen for a while and all their players seemed to know where each other were and in Duffy they had the man of the match and the most intelligent footballer I've seen for a while. I'd get a bid in for him in January. If only our midfielders had the awareness and poise of Duffy. He found time on the ball and used it effectively however that applied to just about everyone in their team. Billy Sharpe, who I always thought was lively but never convincing at Leeds, looked like a totally different player and if it wasn't for Lonergan he could have / should have had a hatful in the first half. The Blades played with 2 effective wingers and full backs who also came forward and contributed. It was actually good to watch and I rarely say that about the opposition. Their style is similar to what we are trying to achieve but I don't think we have the players to do it at the moment. Their goal was a result of great link up play and good movement from Sharpe in the box but it looked like he wasn't marked ? Need to see it again but if a little bloke like Sharp gets a free header from 4 yards you have to ask questions of our 6 ft central defenders. I thought our defence crumbled under the attacks. Cooper and Pennington as first choice is as bad a decision as selling Rob Green and I'm losing faith in our attacker manager who doesn't seem to know who are the best defenders. Cooper for me is 4th in line at the moment yet if he is fit he plays and to top it all he is captain. Bad decision after bad decision. I also think we have to look a bit further than the central two who were not helped by Ayling who I thought had a poor game defensively. Anita also struggled against lively attackers. I like Anita but I don't think he's a left back. In midfield, we started with Philips playing as the 'no 10' and Saiz on the left wing. Another bad decision, Philips hardly touching the ball and I didn't know Saiz was on the pitch in the first 30 minutes. As for Lasogga, big questions have to be asked. Can he really play as a lone striker in this league when he's constantly outbattled and out muscled off the ball so easily ? He looks powder puff to me. Allioski saw a lot of the ball on the right but he failed to deliver on every occasion. Any positives ? Well, yes. I thought we responded really well to going 1 down and unlike some performances we didn't crumble. TC made a good decision in moving Saiz into the 'no 10' position however this meant Philips was asked to play as a left winger which rendered him even more useless than he had been previous to that. At one point after we equalised I thought we had them on the ropes and their slick football stopped and we did take control but a mixture of an inability to pass and keep the ball (Lasogga, Allioski, Ayling) let them back into it and normally service was resumed when their 10 year old sub came on and showed Lasogga how to play as a centre forward. Very, very frustrating. Saiz tried as a one man show to win the game and he really had them worried but he can't do it on his own and we can't expect him week in week out to be the midfield and the attack. Overall, I'd say it was a fair result. I thought we battled well to get back in the game but ultimately key players let us down today. Lonergan - 8. Kept us in it first half. Ayling - 4. I thought it was his worst game for Leeds - he has always struggled IMO on the back foot against pacey opposition. Not a premier league defender as some think. Anita - 5. Struggled Pennington - 6. I thought first 20 minutes he was all over the place but I wouldn't completely blame him. I thought he improved massively in the second half and I thought he defended pretty well overall. I'd settle for him and Jansson to be given a run in the team. Stopped fucking about with the pairings TC. Cooper - 3. I've never been convinced by him and against tricky and speedy opponents and lik Pennington he started really shakily but he didn't improve until he got injured. Is he playing with an injury ? He's very inconsistent and the decision to make him captain is a really bad one. Philips - 3. Another good goal masking a performance that contributed nothing. Everyone will remember the goal and say that justifies why he is one of the first names on the teamsheet. I say no ! His general play is not good enough and putting in the odd hospital tackle doesn't represent a good performance in my book. Take away the goal and I'd say he was our second weakest player. Definitely not a 'No 10'. Saiz - 7. Didn't touch the ball much in the first half as he was dumped on the left wing in preference to playing Philips at no 10. Another bad decision. Second half he scared them to death and was unlucky not to have put us in the lead with a great shot which hot the post. Would we have won if that had gone in ? Not s
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Likewise, how many Leeds players do we think Norwich/QPR will be targeting in the summer? On 3 May 2011 09:05, McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill) < brendan.mcwilli...@vodafone.com> wrote: > So how many Sheff Utd players could/should we pick up? Wasn't Montgomery a > target last summer? > > -Original Message- > From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] > On Behalf Of Matt Anderson > Sent: sábado, 30 de abril de 2011 22:34 > To: leedslist@gn.apc.org > Subject: [LU] Sheff Utd > > Sad to see Sheff Utd go down! > > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: > http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) > ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
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So how many Sheff Utd players could/should we pick up? Wasn't Montgomery a target last summer? -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Matt Anderson Sent: sábado, 30 de abril de 2011 22:34 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: [LU] Sheff Utd Sad to see Sheff Utd go down! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
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Sad to see Sheff Utd go down! I notice Collins was left on the bench today but Doyle and Lowry played and Cresswell was also used as a sub. If you include Montgomery as a Leeds youth player and Micky Adams as the boss and Trevor Birch as CEO there's a right Leeds influence there! This was interesting on their website though and there's a fair bit of truth in this "We have relied too heavily on attempting short term solutions and, if anything, indulging managers with too many quick fixes and short term signings. "In hindsight, it is a factor that has contributed to the demise of United - the over reliance and use of the loan market has had a debilitating rather than strengthening effect on the first team. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Sheff Utd match
Totally agree re Kilkenny. I was thinking during the Donkeys match what a superb player he is, how he really ought to be playing at a higher level, and how lucky we are to have him. (Was it the Donkey manager who said that every time Kilkenny gets dropped at Leeds, he rings up and asks if he's available?) I couldn't believe when people on this list started criticising him, and whilst I understand the logic of leaving him out of a blood-and-thunder game, like Dave, I don't agree with it. Killer is much more than a very good passer of the ball..he works hard and does his share of tackling as well. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] Sheff Utd match
Settling into my new season ticket now I'm back in the LOTG, and the Sheff Utd match was like being parachuted back 20 years to an early Wilko match in many ways. Blood, guts, long diagonal punts to gain field position in their half etc. Team selection raised an interesting poser. If you think a match is going to be an attritional kick-fest and pick a team accordingly, isn't that actually a self-fulfilling prophesy? A team with Howson and Johnson in central midfield is never going to produce a highly cultured performance, and so it proved. Would we ave played a better match with Kilkenny in or would we just have got kicked and over-run? I think Grayson is of the view we have not developed far enough yet to be able to impose our game on experienced championship teams in the this kind of match. Maybe not an unfair judgment but it did immediately doom this match as a spectacle. Suffice to say when Collins and Hughes are your stand out players, you know what kind of match it was. The match turned on 2 things for me: (1) the introduction of Snoddy who made the right decision at the key moment, and crucially WENT TO THE SODDING BYLINE, which Sam and Gradel really need to learn should be done far more often) and Kilkenny, who transformed things, by actually looking to get the ball down, switch play and bring others into it, as well as providing an outlet for Collins and Bruce (quite amusing several times in the match to see Collins with the ball at the back looking for the short pass to Kilkenny then look bemused before remembering Kilkenny wasn't there and neither of Howson or Johnson had the wit to replicate his role. (2) fundamentally the 'howler moment' by the Sheff Utd lad. Nice to see we didn't make it this week though. May well be related to the changes in personnel at the back... On a side note I have to say I disagree entirely with the list comparisons last week of Kilkenny with McPhail. Kilkenny is 5 times the player of McPhail for me (I am a big Killkenny fan). He looks to slide balls through, create and make things happen. McPhail just played sideways passes and tried to achieve a high pass count as if that was an end in itself. If the aim of many on the list is to move towards a Somma / McCormack front line (though personally I think the 4-3-3 / 4-5-1 tactic has been dropped too quickly) then you have to have a Kilkenny there to be be able to slot the ball through. One long pass at Old Trafford does not a great passer Howson make. My scores on the doors: Higgs 7 - did everything well. His distribution is a pale shadow of Kasper, but then Kasper is astonishingly good at this. Hughes - 8 - pretty much as good as he gets in a match that suited him perfectly. Crunched a bloke in the first 5 minutes and after that he looked settled. Gave away too many freekicks in dangerous places, hut that's just Hughesy for you. McCartney - 7 - solid, did his thing, unspectacular. Collins - 9 MOTM - colossus, again perfect match for him. We conceded a LOT of freekicks in dangerous spots and he won a very high proportion of them. Seems to enjoy the greater organisational role he has in Naylor's absence. Bruce - 7 - generally good but a bit up and down - Collins covered for him a few times when he got done. Was never afraid to get in there though. Sam - 5.5 - clever player, but seem to lack a turn of pace to ever beat his man. Relies on out thinking him to get his cross in instead. Things didn't really come off for him on Saturday. Johnson - 5.5 - was a 4 until the goal, which was a good run to get there. Just simply not a central midfielder. I know he likes to think he is but everything looks better wehen hw switches to the left. Grayson is clearly a results / output man and so Johnson will keep getting picked for now - 2 key goals in 2 home games. Howson - 6.5 - scrapped and battled well but little quality on ball. Funny how everyone on the kop (who love him) always shout "oh unlucky Jonny, good try" as another long pass goes astray, but woe betide Kilkenny if he does the same. Gradel - 6 - Max, Max, Max. Calm down. Please. You're clearly a capable player. I like you. But calm down. Take a breath. Use your pace and energy in controlled bursts not in some perpetual motion state that makes it look like you are on speed. And try getting to the byline more. Becchio - 5 - fell over. Lots. Decided he was getting fouled and was being hard done by and so dropped into one of his sulky dive modes. Shame. Somma - 6 - good in patches but really needs to learn to be less over-elaborate. When the ball is knocked up to you. Control, look up, lay off. Simple. Don't try fancy flicks and turns every time. Snoddy - 7 - for thre right decision at the key moment. Kilkenny - 8 - short but excellent contribution. It's lovely to see a ball being passed simply but effectively. McCormack - 6 - not a lot. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.