Re: Not quite combat ready.
Hello Art,saddened to hear of your condition but admire your philosophical outlook and bravery,although I'm from the U.K.my country I'm sure must have benefited from your military time,my little group will say a prayer specially for you,may god bless and keep you, MAC. On May 25, 4:29 pm, Bill Hallow wchal...@verizon.net wrote: Good Morning Art Thanks for sharing your situation and your history with us. Many, many thanks for your very special service to our country. May God bless you and smile upon you in this struggle to beat the odds one more time.. Bill H From: Art Ransom akran...@tx.rr.com To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 9:35:00 PM Subject: Not quite combat ready. Been an interesting 5 weeks. In hospital for 2 weeks for colon/rectal surgery, back home for 2 days and then 2 weeks back in hospital for interventions anti biotic. Outlook looks good and I have always beat the odds. US Army- less than 9% of US population: paratrooper 16 years-less than 1% of the Army; member of Special Forces A team - less than .1% of all Army paratroopers; Army Pathfinder- less than 300 at any one time in the Army. I have no regrets and my bucket list is a lot more complete than 99% of the world. I have had VERY bad times and VERY SUPER FANTASTIC Good days, the BAD day enhance the Good days. I have meet a lot if interesting people and include this group. My wish all of you could have traveled the great journey I am on. Many whoever you pray to bless you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Wider is Better
I would like to get some input. I'm thinking about widening my machine. Does anyone else have a need to go wider, and by how much? I'm thinking 3-6. I also have a need for more travel on the bed. Would anyone be interested in a leg lift kit? I'm thinking an additional 2 of bed drop would be good. Contact me here or off list if that makes you feel more comfortable about sharing your thoughts. -Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: Wider is Better
Hello Tim You should know my feelings about Bigger! But... Im just wondering why Legacy didn't go wider with there equipment for so many years? is it the materials that they were using, or some kind of stress that the bushings/bearings (or glides) could not handle? Perhaps it was there methods of assembly? I know that there new machines are suppose to be wielded. And I know that on the machine shop side of things, everything is made out of cast iron, and or solid thick plates of steel bolted together. Bigger is better, but? just questioning/ wondering? talk to you more latter. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Tim Krause To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:03 PM Subject: Wider is Better I would like to get some input. I'm thinking about widening my machine. Does anyone else have a need to go wider, and by how much? I'm thinking 3-6. I also have a need for more travel on the bed. Would anyone be interested in a leg lift kit? I'm thinking an additional 2 of bed drop would be good. Contact me here or off list if that makes you feel more comfortable about sharing your thoughts. -Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: Wider is Better
I would love to have a wider 900! I am interested Tim.. Steve On May 27, 4:03 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote: I would like to get some input. I'm thinking about widening my machine. Does anyone else have a need to go wider, and by how much? I'm thinking 3-6. I also have a need for more travel on the bed. Would anyone be interested in a leg lift kit? I'm thinking an additional 2 of bed drop would be good. Contact me here or off list if that makes you feel more comfortable about sharing your thoughts. -Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: Wider is Better
But how much wider Steve? - Original Message - From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:11 PM Subject: Re: Wider is Better I would love to have a wider 900! I am interested Tim.. Steve On May 27, 4:03 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote: I would like to get some input. I'm thinking about widening my machine. Does anyone else have a need to go wider, and by how much? I'm thinking 3-6. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: Wider is Better
I'd love to be able to handle 24 inches on the Y-Axis. Leaving the A- Axis position where it is would be OK too. Maybe some brackets to extend the YAxis that bolt to the existing system? Just a thought.. Steve On May 27, 5:21 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote: But how much wider Steve? - Original Message - From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:11 PM Subject: Re: Wider is Better I would love to have a wider 900! I am interested Tim.. Steve On May 27, 4:03 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote: I would like to get some input. I'm thinking about widening my machine. Does anyone else have a need to go wider, and by how much? I'm thinking 3-6. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: Wider is Better
Hi Steve, Handle a 24 piece of wood or 24 of y-axis travel. I originally thought about bolt on blocks to widen the machine similar to your idea of extensions. Then I thought about creating a new headstock and tailstock pieces and base pieces. Not moving the spindle has the advantage of not modifying the gear train. Call me a purist, but I don't want to drill holes in the existing equipment to install an accessory. -Tim - Original Message - From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Wider is Better I'd love to be able to handle 24 inches on the Y-Axis. Leaving the A- Axis position where it is would be OK too. Maybe some brackets to extend the YAxis that bolt to the existing system? Just a thought.. Steve On May 27, 5:21 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote: But how much wider Steve? - Original Message - From: SteveEJ s.jacobs0...@gmail.com To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:11 PM Subject: Re: Wider is Better I would love to have a wider 900! I am interested Tim.. Steve On May 27, 4:03 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote: I would like to get some input. I'm thinking about widening my machine. Does anyone else have a need to go wider, and by how much? I'm thinking 3-6. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: Wider is Better
Hi Curt, I think the width of the bearing spacing might need to be increased to prevent racking but I don't see the load really changing that much. It makes me wonder if the size of the gears and spindle location had anything to do with the decision of width. Adding a gear to the train would solve that problem. Your arm is only so long, maybe that was the reason. It's really hard to say. -Tim - Original Message - From: curt george To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:10 PM Subject: Re: Wider is Better Hello Tim You should know my feelings about Bigger! But... Im just wondering why Legacy didn't go wider with there equipment for so many years? is it the materials that they were using, or some kind of stress that the bushings/bearings (or glides) could not handle? Perhaps it was there methods of assembly? I know that there new machines are suppose to be wielded. And I know that on the machine shop side of things, everything is made out of cast iron, and or solid thick plates of steel bolted together. Bigger is better, but? just questioning/ wondering? talk to you more latter. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Tim Krause To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:03 PM Subject: Wider is Better I would like to get some input. I'm thinking about widening my machine. Does anyone else have a need to go wider, and by how much? I'm thinking 3-6. I also have a need for more travel on the bed. Would anyone be interested in a leg lift kit? I'm thinking an additional 2 of bed drop would be good. Contact me here or off list if that makes you feel more comfortable about sharing your thoughts. -Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: Wider is Better
Tim One more thought, Perhaps it had more to do with the single acme screw that drives the unit? Along those lines here is one more note. If my guess is correct,I have an idea that might help you. On my (work's) lathe they use two rack-in-pinion brackets to drive the carriage. How it works is , An Acme screw controls the pitch (gear box and all.), under the carriage there is a worm gear that rides on the screw, it is also connected to the rack-in-pinion drive gear, there are set (one on each side of the carriage. The rack-in-pinion gears and track/rack, handle the heavy load and the screw controls the movement. If I were going to go much larger I would look into driving the carriage very much like my lathe dose. Just a thought? have a good night. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Tim Krause To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 5:52 PM Subject: Re: Wider is Better Hi Curt, I think the width of the bearing spacing might need to be increased to prevent racking but I don't see the load really changing that much. It makes me wonder if the size of the gears and spindle location had anything to do with the decision of width. Adding a gear to the train would solve that problem. Your arm is only so long, maybe that was the reason. It's really hard to say. -Tim - Original Message - From: curt george To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:10 PM Subject: Re: Wider is Better Hello Tim You should know my feelings about Bigger! But... Im just wondering why Legacy didn't go wider with there equipment for so many years? is it the materials that they were using, or some kind of stress that the bushings/bearings (or glides) could not handle? Perhaps it was there methods of assembly? I know that there new machines are suppose to be wielded. And I know that on the machine shop side of things, everything is made out of cast iron, and or solid thick plates of steel bolted together. Bigger is better, but? just questioning/ wondering? talk to you more latter. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Tim Krause To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:03 PM Subject: Wider is Better I would like to get some input. I'm thinking about widening my machine. Does anyone else have a need to go wider, and by how much? I'm thinking 3-6. I also have a need for more travel on the bed. Would anyone be interested in a leg lift kit? I'm thinking an additional 2 of bed drop would be good. Contact me here or off list if that makes you feel more comfortable about sharing your thoughts. -Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: Wider is Better
Yes. Perhaps? I don't know for sure, but it would make since to me. I just thought that it might be something to look out for, that's all. I've been looking into making a bigger unit for a long time. but... as we all know, life keeps getting in the way of our plans and this dream has more or less has been put on the shelf for long term storage.(so to speak.) ;-) I wish you good luck on this project . C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Tim Krause To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 7:36 PM Subject: Re: Wider is Better Are you talking about the x axis screw not being able to drive the wider carriage? The split nut might need to be updated with more threads. That could be a valid problem. -Tim - Original Message - From: curt george To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:06 PM Subject: Re: Wider is Better Tim One more thought, Perhaps it had more to do with the single acme screw that drives the unit? Along those lines here is one more note. If my guess is correct,I have an idea that might help you. On my (work's) lathe they use two rack-in-pinion brackets to drive the carriage. How it works is , An Acme screw controls the pitch (gear box and all.), under the carriage there is a worm gear that rides on the screw, it is also connected to the rack-in-pinion drive gear, there are set (one on each side of the carriage. The rack-in-pinion gears and track/rack, handle the heavy load and the screw controls the movement. If I were going to go much larger I would look into driving the carriage very much like my lathe dose. Just a thought? have a good night. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Tim Krause To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 5:52 PM Subject: Re: Wider is Better Hi Curt, I think the width of the bearing spacing might need to be increased to prevent racking but I don't see the load really changing that much. It makes me wonder if the size of the gears and spindle location had anything to do with the decision of width. Adding a gear to the train would solve that problem. Your arm is only so long, maybe that was the reason. It's really hard to say. -Tim - Original Message - From: curt george To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:10 PM Subject: Re: Wider is Better Hello Tim You should know my feelings about Bigger! But... Im just wondering why Legacy didn't go wider with there equipment for so many years? is it the materials that they were using, or some kind of stress that the bushings/bearings (or glides) could not handle? Perhaps it was there methods of assembly? I know that there new machines are suppose to be wielded. And I know that on the machine shop side of things, everything is made out of cast iron, and or solid thick plates of steel bolted together. Bigger is better, but? just questioning/ wondering? talk to you more latter. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Tim Krause To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:03 PM Subject: Wider is Better I would like to get some input. I'm thinking about widening my machine. Does anyone else have a need to go wider, and by how much? I'm thinking 3-6. I also have a need for more travel on the bed. Would anyone be interested in a leg lift kit? I'm thinking an additional 2 of bed drop would be good. Contact me here or off list if that makes you feel more comfortable about sharing your thoughts. -Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To
Re: Wider is Better
Tim you know what I did to get wider on larger diameter turnings anyway working underneath and from the side Bill - Original Message - From: curt george To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 9:46 AM Subject: Re: Wider is Better Yes. Perhaps? I don't know for sure, but it would make since to me. I just thought that it might be something to look out for, that's all. I've been looking into making a bigger unit for a long time. but... as we all know, life keeps getting in the way of our plans and this dream has more or less has been put on the shelf for long term storage.(so to speak.) ;-) I wish you good luck on this project . C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Tim Krause To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 7:36 PM Subject: Re: Wider is Better Are you talking about the x axis screw not being able to drive the wider carriage? The split nut might need to be updated with more threads. That could be a valid problem. -Tim - Original Message - From: curt george To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:06 PM Subject: Re: Wider is Better Tim One more thought, Perhaps it had more to do with the single acme screw that drives the unit? Along those lines here is one more note. If my guess is correct,I have an idea that might help you. On my (work's) lathe they use two rack-in-pinion brackets to drive the carriage. How it works is , An Acme screw controls the pitch (gear box and all.), under the carriage there is a worm gear that rides on the screw, it is also connected to the rack-in-pinion drive gear, there are set (one on each side of the carriage. The rack-in-pinion gears and track/rack, handle the heavy load and the screw controls the movement. If I were going to go much larger I would look into driving the carriage very much like my lathe dose. Just a thought? have a good night. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Tim Krause To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 5:52 PM Subject: Re: Wider is Better Hi Curt, I think the width of the bearing spacing might need to be increased to prevent racking but I don't see the load really changing that much. It makes me wonder if the size of the gears and spindle location had anything to do with the decision of width. Adding a gear to the train would solve that problem. Your arm is only so long, maybe that was the reason. It's really hard to say. -Tim - Original Message - From: curt george To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:10 PM Subject: Re: Wider is Better Hello Tim You should know my feelings about Bigger! But... Im just wondering why Legacy didn't go wider with there equipment for so many years? is it the materials that they were using, or some kind of stress that the bushings/bearings (or glides) could not handle? Perhaps it was there methods of assembly? I know that there new machines are suppose to be wielded. And I know that on the machine shop side of things, everything is made out of cast iron, and or solid thick plates of steel bolted together. Bigger is better, but? just questioning/ wondering? talk to you more latter. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Tim Krause To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:03 PM Subject: Wider is Better I would like to get some input. I'm thinking about widening my machine. Does anyone else have a need to go wider, and by how much? I'm thinking 3-6. I also have a need for more travel on the bed. Would anyone be interested in a leg lift kit? I'm thinking an additional 2 of bed drop would be good. Contact me here or off list if that makes you feel more comfortable about sharing your thoughts. -Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send
Re: Wider is Better
Trying to mill 14 x 20x 2 wide parts on the table. Currently have to move the part three times to get one part done. It's not a turning diameter issue. Reminds me I need to write that gem up! -Tim - Original Message - From: Bill Bulkeley To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 5:07 PM Subject: Re: Wider is Better Tim you know what I did to get wider on larger diameter turnings anyway working underneath and from the side Bill - Original Message - From: curt george To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 9:46 AM Subject: Re: Wider is Better Yes. Perhaps? I don't know for sure, but it would make since to me. I just thought that it might be something to look out for, that's all. I've been looking into making a bigger unit for a long time. but... as we all know, life keeps getting in the way of our plans and this dream has more or less has been put on the shelf for long term storage.(so to speak.) ;-) I wish you good luck on this project . C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Tim Krause To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 7:36 PM Subject: Re: Wider is Better Are you talking about the x axis screw not being able to drive the wider carriage? The split nut might need to be updated with more threads. That could be a valid problem. -Tim - Original Message - From: curt george To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:06 PM Subject: Re: Wider is Better Tim One more thought, Perhaps it had more to do with the single acme screw that drives the unit? Along those lines here is one more note. If my guess is correct,I have an idea that might help you. On my (work's) lathe they use two rack-in-pinion brackets to drive the carriage. How it works is , An Acme screw controls the pitch (gear box and all.), under the carriage there is a worm gear that rides on the screw, it is also connected to the rack-in-pinion drive gear, there are set (one on each side of the carriage. The rack-in-pinion gears and track/rack, handle the heavy load and the screw controls the movement. If I were going to go much larger I would look into driving the carriage very much like my lathe dose. Just a thought? have a good night. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Tim Krause To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 5:52 PM Subject: Re: Wider is Better Hi Curt, I think the width of the bearing spacing might need to be increased to prevent racking but I don't see the load really changing that much. It makes me wonder if the size of the gears and spindle location had anything to do with the decision of width. Adding a gear to the train would solve that problem. Your arm is only so long, maybe that was the reason. It's really hard to say. -Tim - Original Message - From: curt george To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:10 PM Subject: Re: Wider is Better Hello Tim You should know my feelings about Bigger! But... Im just wondering why Legacy didn't go wider with there equipment for so many years? is it the materials that they were using, or some kind of stress that the bushings/bearings (or glides) could not handle? Perhaps it was there methods of assembly? I know that there new machines are suppose to be wielded. And I know that on the machine shop side of things, everything is made out of cast iron, and or solid thick plates of steel bolted together. Bigger is better, but? just questioning/ wondering? talk to you more latter. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Tim Krause To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:03 PM Subject: Wider is Better I would like to get some input. I'm thinking about widening my machine. Does anyone else have a need to go wider, and by how much? I'm thinking 3-6. I also have a need for more travel on the bed. Would anyone be interested in a leg lift kit? I'm thinking an additional 2 of bed drop would be good. Contact me here or off list if that makes you feel more comfortable about sharing your thoughts. -Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to
Re: I've been asked to make some samples, advice please
Hi Dustin, I think you answered your own question a little bit. Look around town and duplicate the turnings that exist, and would be the type that would need to be replaced. Making samples does seem like a huge undertaking. Just knowing the capabilities should be enough. If some one give you a drawing, that will determine what bits you need to buy. If you already own several bits, make sample using what you got. Once you make things, keep a portfolio of the work. Another option is to point him to the gallery on Legacy's original site to get the feel of what can be done without the time and expense of you making components. When turning large work, you can start by cutting the corners off. Next your going to ask how, and that's not my department. I'll let others answer that one. :-) As far as I know, Magnate simply hands the order over to Legacy for them to fulfill. I doubt they stock anything. They are great people to work with in my experience. Maybe they crack the whip to get the Boy's to ship faster? -Tim - Original Message - From: Chainlink dustinyo...@hotmail.com To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: I've been asked to make some samples, advice please Hey everyone! I've been asked to make a sample of some columns to demonstrate what I can make on the legacy. The person that I'm making the samples for has branched out into home remodeling and does a lot of things like rebuilding dilapidated front porches and stairways--we live in a town that has a lot of historic properties. I suggested to him that I could do 4 sided straight tapers and spiral columns up to 6 feet, solid or hollow. I am hoping to discuss profiles as well as accessories for the Legacy that will help me achieve this goal. What kinds of samples would you all suggest I make to demonstrate what I could make for him? Since I'm limited to 6 feet, I was thinking of making 4 different sections, kind of like a totem pole, with 4 different designs. I believe that my 1200 will turn 11 diameter, but isn't it more like 9 from square stock? I'm going to assume that for 9 diameter columns that the 2X gear set is a necessity to get nice looking rope twists that aren't squashed looking? Would you agree or suggest another alternative? I also want to make some baluster samples. Do you think it's necessary to create ultra ornate samples, or is a simple barley twist in the middle of a post sufficient? I get the impression that too ornate isn't really feasible from a time perspective. I can't foresee hollow spirals being anything he'd use, but should I still make one as an example? What size router bits do I need to move up to to make designs in 9 columns that look proper in scale? I have a 2 bit ( I think it's a rope, still waiting on my design kit to verify), but do I need to be looking at larger bits? Do you recommend ordering direct from Magnate for accessories? It's been 2 weeks since I ordered my design kit and index set through legacy, and it hasn't arrived yet. Thanks everyone for the advice. I'm hoping to have something to present him around June 15th. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: I've been asked to make some samples, advice please
speaking of large work and big bits how is your large bit template coming Tim Bill - Original Message - From: Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 10:59 AM Subject: Re: I've been asked to make some samples, advice please Hi Dustin, I think you answered your own question a little bit. Look around town and duplicate the turnings that exist, and would be the type that would need to be replaced. Making samples does seem like a huge undertaking. Just knowing the capabilities should be enough. If some one give you a drawing, that will determine what bits you need to buy. If you already own several bits, make sample using what you got. Once you make things, keep a portfolio of the work. Another option is to point him to the gallery on Legacy's original site to get the feel of what can be done without the time and expense of you making components. When turning large work, you can start by cutting the corners off. Next your going to ask how, and that's not my department. I'll let others answer that one. :-) As far as I know, Magnate simply hands the order over to Legacy for them to fulfill. I doubt they stock anything. They are great people to work with in my experience. Maybe they crack the whip to get the Boy's to ship faster? -Tim - Original Message - From: Chainlink dustinyo...@hotmail.com To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: I've been asked to make some samples, advice please Hey everyone! I've been asked to make a sample of some columns to demonstrate what I can make on the legacy. The person that I'm making the samples for has branched out into home remodeling and does a lot of things like rebuilding dilapidated front porches and stairways--we live in a town that has a lot of historic properties. I suggested to him that I could do 4 sided straight tapers and spiral columns up to 6 feet, solid or hollow. I am hoping to discuss profiles as well as accessories for the Legacy that will help me achieve this goal. What kinds of samples would you all suggest I make to demonstrate what I could make for him? Since I'm limited to 6 feet, I was thinking of making 4 different sections, kind of like a totem pole, with 4 different designs. I believe that my 1200 will turn 11 diameter, but isn't it more like 9 from square stock? I'm going to assume that for 9 diameter columns that the 2X gear set is a necessity to get nice looking rope twists that aren't squashed looking? Would you agree or suggest another alternative? I also want to make some baluster samples. Do you think it's necessary to create ultra ornate samples, or is a simple barley twist in the middle of a post sufficient? I get the impression that too ornate isn't really feasible from a time perspective. I can't foresee hollow spirals being anything he'd use, but should I still make one as an example? What size router bits do I need to move up to to make designs in 9 columns that look proper in scale? I have a 2 bit ( I think it's a rope, still waiting on my design kit to verify), but do I need to be looking at larger bits? Do you recommend ordering direct from Magnate for accessories? It's been 2 weeks since I ordered my design kit and index set through legacy, and it hasn't arrived yet. Thanks everyone for the advice. I'm hoping to have something to present him around June 15th. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: I've been asked to make some samples, advice please
Hello and good evening Dustin. As far as large posts go. I would do some fluting, not roping. You see a lot of smaller split and spindle rope and barley twist stuff in most old towns, but I find on the big stuff fluting is more prevalent. To save time/money and effort, I would use 4x4's or 2x4s with a paper joint, as your base wood. and run a bunch of different posts and split turnings. If it was me, I would go around town and take some pictures of articles in your town and then make a few samples to show your skill, See the original and my copy! stuff like that. I personally find that the old timers on the most part keep things simple for outdoors stuff. The high quality goods were made for the rich, not for the masses,and made for the inside parlor not the porch. There are a few ways to speed up production as well. if you go out and buy a home depot womanized post (they are cheep) and then rope or flute it, It would save a lot of time. Its almost always easer to modify something already made to fit, then it is to make the hole thing your self. Exp. a 4 post 48 tall, roped. Starting form scratch, would take me, something like 2 hrs to make. But if the profile was already done? maybe 30 min. to rope. Its a real time saver. Its past my bed time. talk to you more latter. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Chainlink dustinyo...@hotmail.com To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 8:22 PM Subject: I've been asked to make some samples, advice please Hey everyone! I've been asked to make a sample of some columns to demonstrate what I can make on the legacy. The person that I'm making the samples for has branched out into home remodeling and does a lot of things like rebuilding dilapidated front porches and stairways--we live in a town that has a lot of historic properties. I suggested to him that I could do 4 sided straight tapers and spiral columns up to 6 feet, solid or hollow. I am hoping to discuss profiles as well as accessories for the Legacy that will help me achieve this goal. What kinds of samples would you all suggest I make to demonstrate what I could make for him? Since I'm limited to 6 feet, I was thinking of making 4 different sections, kind of like a totem pole, with 4 different designs. I believe that my 1200 will turn 11 diameter, but isn't it more like 9 from square stock? I'm going to assume that for 9 diameter columns that the 2X gear set is a necessity to get nice looking rope twists that aren't squashed looking? Would you agree or suggest another alternative? I also want to make some baluster samples. Do you think it's necessary to create ultra ornate samples, or is a simple barley twist in the middle of a post sufficient? I get the impression that too ornate isn't really feasible from a time perspective. I can't foresee hollow spirals being anything he'd use, but should I still make one as an example? What size router bits do I need to move up to to make designs in 9 columns that look proper in scale? I have a 2 bit ( I think it's a rope, still waiting on my design kit to verify), but do I need to be looking at larger bits? Do you recommend ordering direct from Magnate for accessories? It's been 2 weeks since I ordered my design kit and index set through legacy, and it hasn't arrived yet. Thanks everyone for the advice. I'm hoping to have something to present him around June 15th. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
