Re: New to Group
Hello Carl Welcome to the group. Hopefully someone out there will have a copy of the video and plans that you are looking for?(Im sorry to say I don't own them.) Have you checked out the past archives from this group? both Art and Tim have saved much of the best topic form this group. Art's web site is www.turningaround.org and Tim's http://artscopes.com/ http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/missing_links.html both are good places to start looking for info. and idea to help you out with your Legacy. I hope to talk to you more latter. but I need to go to work now. have a good day. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: pastorcarl carstenstig...@verizon.net To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 12:18 AM Subject: New to Group Greetings all. I have recently purchased a 900 and have now gotten it all assembled. Now I am in the process of fine tuning it...Yesterday I ordered the rotary table as I have some ideas for lamps that I want to do on the unit. I used to be pretty active in Rec Woodworking many years back but have dropped out of that forum due to time constraints. I am in the Pittsburgh area and am curious if there are any users in the area. I had some issues with the delivery and ordering of the items and have never received the plans and video for the pedestal table. I had them take the money and put it towards the rotary table. Just curious if anyone else has had difficulties like these. I have looked into the Legacy for years and was ready to buy one at the Woodworking show in Mass. a few years ago but they did not show up. sigh I have a juried show to prepare for and am looking forward to getting active in this group. Carl Stigers Tree to Thee Woodworking -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: Pen Tool and Enhanced Rotary Table Control
Wow! very Kool Tim! Awsome job on that one!!! C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 04:15:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Pen Tool and Enhanced Rotary Table Control Hello All, Well, I know many of you have wondered why I need so much control of the rotary table. I just think there is so much potential that is not tapped. In order to explore new possibilities and not waste wood, I made a new tool that I've seen used in the Ornamental Turning world. It's a spring loaded ball point pen that I can fit in place of the router bit. Taping a piece of paper to the rotary table I can now play in real time, and save a tree. The pen tool will also act as my new centering tool by flipping it around in the router. Here's the new Pen / Centering Tool. It's a piece of 1/2 cold rolled steel with a #7 (.201) hole bored through the center. The overall length of the pen is 5. I robbed the spring and the plastic tip from a cheap pen, but the refill is from a fancy pen. It needed to be short for this project. It's a sealed ink refill that is 4-1/8 long and .186 in diameter (Sanford brand but others look very similar). The end opposite of the pen point has a 1/2 long, 1/4-20 NC set screw installed to adjust the pressure of the pen and have access to replace the ink cartridge in the future. The plastic cone is epoxied into a slightly larger bore (.360). Here's the pen loaded in the router and I'm starting the pattern. The stops are used and the plunge stop on the router is also set. Just like real life. The router is not running. Here's the final design. I'll spare you the intermediate photos. The pattern was very to index the 36 locations or every 10º using my new graduated dial and the simple pointer. You can't tell me that it looks like it was done on the Legacy! Imaging how the cuts would look like with a small rope bit for the center, a small roundover bit for the circles, and a V bit for the sunburst pattern and small lines. Run a core box around the outside edge and you get one cool looking rosette. -Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: Pen Tool and Enhanced Rotary Table Control
WOW TIM,that is so clever,but do you think the Legacy can be made to work that detail so fine,as we all know to our cost there is a lot of play and drift in our rigs,not decrying your work in any way,thanks for the pics and info, I will have a go at it and see what mess I come up with,Now to all the legacy owning chaps in the U/K.Rutlands is giving 15% off all tools and free delivery till Jul.5TH. got to be worth a look,MAC. On Jun 30, 8:14 pm, Ccm Ccm ccmdesi...@gmail.com wrote: very inspirational Tim, nice idea, Roger On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 3:15 AM, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote: Hello All, Well, I know many of you have wondered why I need so much control of the rotary table. I just think there is so much potential that is not tapped. In order to explore new possibilities and not waste wood, I made a new tool that I've seen used in the Ornamental Turning world. It's a spring loaded ball point pen that I can fit in place of the router bit. Taping a piece of paper to the rotary table I can now play in real time, and save a tree. The pen tool will also act as my new centering tool by flipping it around in the router. Here's the new Pen / Centering Tool. It's a piece of 1/2 cold rolled steel with a #7 (.201) hole bored through the center. The overall length of the pen is 5. I robbed the spring and the plastic tip from a cheap pen, but the refill is from a fancy pen. It needed to be short for this project. It's a sealed ink refill that is 4-1/8 long and .186 in diameter (Sanford brand but others look very similar). The end opposite of the pen point has a 1/2 long, 1/4-20 NC set screw installed to adjust the pressure of the pen and have access to replace the ink cartridge in the future. The plastic cone is epoxied into a slightly larger bore (.360). Here's the pen loaded in the router and I'm starting the pattern. The stops are used and the plunge stop on the router is also set. Just like real life. The router is not running. Here's the final design. I'll spare you the intermediate photos. The pattern was very to index the 36 locations or every 10º using my new graduated dial and the simple pointer. You can't tell me that it looks like it was done on the Legacy! Imaging how the cuts would look like with a small rope bit for the center, a small roundover bit for the circles, and a V bit for the sunburst pattern and small lines. Run a core box around the outside edge and you get one cool looking rosette. -Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comlegacy-ornamental-mills%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. center_tool_pen_tool.jpg 8KViewDownload pen_drawing.jpg 36KViewDownload 36_index_rosette.jpg 58KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: Pen Tool and Enhanced Rotary Table Control
Hi Mac, There are going to be some trade offs to translate these type of patterns. I envision fine details to be cut at engraving depths. In other words, less than 1/8 inch in depth. Of course you can do whatever you like to make the pattern pay off. My only concern is the table slop (shifting while making the cut) and the table not being flat. Machining the part flat on the rotary table should fix most of the problem. Hopefully in a couple weeks I can try some patterns out for real. I think they are more than possible. -Tim - Original Message - From: MACSWAG davidcraig.dil...@virgin.net To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 3:07 PM Subject: Re: Pen Tool and Enhanced Rotary Table Control WOW TIM,that is so clever,but do you think the Legacy can be made to work that detail so fine,as we all know to our cost there is a lot of play and drift in our rigs,not decrying your work in any way,thanks for the pics and info, I will have a go at it and see what mess I come up with,Now to all the legacy owning chaps in the U/K.Rutlands is giving 15% off all tools and free delivery till Jul.5TH. got to be worth a look,MAC. On Jun 30, 8:14 pm, Ccm Ccm ccmdesi...@gmail.com wrote: very inspirational Tim, nice idea, Roger On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 3:15 AM, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote: Hello All, Well, I know many of you have wondered why I need so much control of the rotary table. I just think there is so much potential that is not tapped. In order to explore new possibilities and not waste wood, I made a new tool that I've seen used in the Ornamental Turning world. It's a spring loaded ball point pen that I can fit in place of the router bit. Taping a piece of paper to the rotary table I can now play in real time, and save a tree. The pen tool will also act as my new centering tool by flipping it around in the router. Here's the new Pen / Centering Tool. It's a piece of 1/2 cold rolled steel with a #7 (.201) hole bored through the center. The overall length of the pen is 5. I robbed the spring and the plastic tip from a cheap pen, but the refill is from a fancy pen. It needed to be short for this project. It's a sealed ink refill that is 4-1/8 long and .186 in diameter (Sanford brand but others look very similar). The end opposite of the pen point has a 1/2 long, 1/4-20 NC set screw installed to adjust the pressure of the pen and have access to replace the ink cartridge in the future. The plastic cone is epoxied into a slightly larger bore (.360). Here's the pen loaded in the router and I'm starting the pattern. The stops are used and the plunge stop on the router is also set. Just like real life. The router is not running. Here's the final design. I'll spare you the intermediate photos. The pattern was very to index the 36 locations or every 10º using my new graduated dial and the simple pointer. You can't tell me that it looks like it was done on the Legacy! Imaging how the cuts would look like with a small rope bit for the center, a small roundover bit for the circles, and a V bit for the sunburst pattern and small lines. Run a core box around the outside edge and you get one cool looking rosette. -Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comlegacy-ornamental-mills %2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. center_tool_pen_tool.jpg 8KViewDownload pen_drawing.jpg 36KViewDownload 36_index_rosette.jpg 58KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: Rotary Table and String Art
I know that will not work. The reciprocator does not have enough throw to turn the spindle far enough to rotate the rotary table a significant amount. Good thought though. -Tim - Original Message - From: Bill Bulkeley To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:31 PM Subject: Re: Rotary Table and String Art Tim try locking the y axes instead and doing the cuts with the X axis and incorporate the wave attachment with the rotary table attached to the spindle that would make some interesting affects what do you think Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
