Re: square spirals?
I think its done with a template after you make it perfectly square. On Jul 12, 2011 10:56 AM, Andy atmarti...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone made or know how to make square spirals? I don't mean rotating the y-axis. I mean a spiraled leg with a square cross section. A surface planing bit makes the piece round so that wouldn't work...I was thinking you would need a bit with a large convex radius and that radius would correspond to a specific leg diameter in order to get the square cross section. I have no immediate use for doing a leg like thatI'm just sitting in the airport thinking about it and thought I'd ask. Thanks, Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: square spirals?
Still sitting here thinking about it If the cross section was small enough, ithink it could be done with a flute bit and cut it from the sidebut what if you want a 6 or bigger square cross section? Cole What kind of template were you thinking about? I don't follow. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: square spirals?
Hello You need to use a straight cutter and cut form the side.pretty much like a normal rope but... its very wasteful type of cutting and you realy eat up the size of the meteral very quickly, You need to keep the cutting the same on all four sides, if not you will end up with what they call a ribbon twist. My suggestion is to try it on some scrap wood first. Good luck. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Andy atmarti...@gmail.com To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:06 AM Subject: Re: square spirals? Still sitting here thinking about it If the cross section was small enough, ithink it could be done with a flute bit and cut it from the sidebut what if you want a 6 or bigger square cross section? Cole What kind of template were you thinking about? I don't follow. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: square spirals?
Woops! one more note. I think the suggestion of using a template, Just might be a good one. as long as you use the template to make sure the edges are all the same. Ive not done it that way, but it dose sound like a good idea to me. post some pictures, Win,lose or draw. Please let us know how it turned out? C.A.G. - Original Message - From: curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:24 AM Subject: Re: square spirals? Hello You need to use a straight cutter and cut form the side.pretty much like a normal rope but... its very wasteful type of cutting and you realy eat up the size of the meteral very quickly, You need to keep the cutting the same on all four sides, if not you will end up with what they call a ribbon twist. My suggestion is to try it on some scrap wood first. Good luck. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Andy atmarti...@gmail.com To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:06 AM Subject: Re: square spirals? Still sitting here thinking about it If the cross section was small enough, ithink it could be done with a flute bit and cut it from the sidebut what if you want a 6 or bigger square cross section? Cole What kind of template were you thinking about? I don't follow. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: square spirals?
I still don't follow the template idea. Wouldn't you just use the stops on the y-axis? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: square spirals?
sorry guys I must be dumb today I cant follow what your describing can some one do a sketch or pic or something so I can get my head around these square spirals Bill - Original Message - From: Okla Mike (Liltwisted) To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:35 AM Subject: Re: square spirals? You can mill it from the top. All you have to do is figure your pitch, lets say 12 then lets say you have an 8 stock with a taper to 5 along a 36 length. Use the tilt of the machine to make the taper. Use a corebox bit to accomplish the cut. Now you will need to round off the stock. Your 8 stock will only yield a 5-5/8 square down to 3-1/2. Set your corebox bit 2-13/16 from center of the large end. Now move the bit off center to where you aren't taking off too much wood. It is just fine to mill both directions with this cut. Make the cut and move the bit towards center 1/16 of an inch and cut again. Move 1/16 go back ~~~ until you are out of wood. Rotate the piece 90º using the drive dogs and mill the next side. It is going to take a while but the smaller cuts will give you a better finish. Use the corebox for this and not the bottom planing bit. When you are finished you will be able to drop a square across any section of the leg and it will be true. It will look concave but the square won't lie. Mike On 7/12/2011 9:56 AM, Andy wrote: Has anyone made or know how to make square spirals? I don't mean rotating the y-axis. I mean a spiraled leg with a square cross section. A surface planing bit makes the piece round so that wouldn't work...I was thinking you would need a bit with a large convex radius and that radius would correspond to a specific leg diameter in order to get the square cross section. I have no immediate use for doing a leg like thatI'm just sitting in the airport thinking about it and thought I'd ask. Thanks, Andrew -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3761 - Release Date: 07/12/11 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: Todays barley project
Those are really nice! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: square spirals?
This is a pretty good concept. Mike is saying to remove small portions at a time to create as large of a flat spot as you would like. Here's my diagram that might explain what he was describing. By varying the bits and spacing you could do four flat side twists with coves in the flat sides... at least I think you could. -Tim - Original Message - From: Bill Bulkeley To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 5:47 PM Subject: Re: square spirals? sorry guys I must be dumb today I cant follow what your describing can some one do a sketch or pic or something so I can get my head around these square spirals Bill - Original Message - From: Okla Mike (Liltwisted) To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:35 AM Subject: Re: square spirals? You can mill it from the top. All you have to do is figure your pitch, lets say 12 then lets say you have an 8 stock with a taper to 5 along a 36 length. Use the tilt of the machine to make the taper. Use a corebox bit to accomplish the cut. Now you will need to round off the stock. Your 8 stock will only yield a 5-5/8 square down to 3-1/2. Set your corebox bit 2-13/16 from center of the large end. Now move the bit off center to where you aren't taking off too much wood. It is just fine to mill both directions with this cut. Make the cut and move the bit towards center 1/16 of an inch and cut again. Move 1/16 go back ~~~ until you are out of wood. Rotate the piece 90º using the drive dogs and mill the next side. It is going to take a while but the smaller cuts will give you a better finish. Use the corebox for this and not the bottom planing bit. When you are finished you will be able to drop a square across any section of the leg and it will be true. It will look concave but the square won't lie. Mike On 7/12/2011 9:56 AM, Andy wrote: Has anyone made or know how to make square spirals? I don't mean rotating the y-axis. I mean a spiraled leg with a square cross section. A surface planing bit makes the piece round so that wouldn't work...I was thinking you would need a bit with a large convex radius and that radius would correspond to a specific leg diameter in order to get the square cross section. I have no immediate use for doing a leg like thatI'm just sitting in the airport thinking about it and thought I'd ask. Thanks, Andrew No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3761 - Release Date: 07/12/11 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. multipass_square_spiral.jpg
Re: square spirals?
Thanks for posting the pictures of the spiral Mike. That was exactly what i was talking about. I like the method of stepping the core box bit over in small increments to make the square profile. For smaller pieces, you could use the flute bit method and cut from the side. but for the larger cross sections, it looks like the only option is what you describe above. I really want to try it when i get back home to see how it turns out. Thanks everyone! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
