Re: RE: FW: Question for all on turning bone?

2018-07-09 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Hello and Good morning.
Thank you Joseph an Lonnie for your reply's.
Ive come up with some more idea, to play with in this topic, but so far no real 
testing has  been done.  When and If anything comes up form my ideas, I will be 
sure to let you all know what I did.
Have a good day.
C.A.G.On Monday, July 9, 2018, 7:03:24 AM EDT, Lonnie Carlton 
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Yes, over the years I have used epoxies and hid glue but not on bone (much). I 
also have antique cars and have used all types of glue depending on the need. 
You already know more about the uses of bone than I do. If I can help, just let 
me know.

Thanks,

Lonnie

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
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Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2018 7:56 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FW: Question for all on turning bone?

  

Thank you Lonnie

  

So you use CA glue.That is something that I have lots of.  Have you tried 
Epoxies, or Hide glue?

  

Bone is not something that lots of people talk about,  I want to find out as 
much as I can on this topic.

  

Again Thank you.

  

talk to you and all more latter.

  

C.A.G.

  

On Sunday, July 8, 2018, 11:16:25 AM EDT, Lonnie Carlton 
 wrote: 

  

  

Hello Curt,

Looks like I forgot to attach the CA glue site. Please find it below.

 

https://www.starbond.com/

 

 

Thanks,

Lonnie

 

 

 

 

From: Lonnie Carlton [mailto:lonniecarl...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2018 8:52 AM
To: 'legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com' 

Subject: RE: Question for all on turning bone?

 

Hello Curt,

This is Lonnie (a new member) I am an old wood turner. Over the years I have 
work a lot with antlers, bone and horns making pen and inlays in bowls. I have 
had very good success using CA glue. Below, is a site where I am able to get CA 
glue in large quantizes at a low price just in case you may need one. 

Thanks,

Lonnie

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2018 5:53 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question for all on turning bone?

 

Hello Mac

Thank you for your reply.

I have read about the ants... But at this time soap and water will do me fine.  

 

The funny think about turning bone is 

RE: FW: Question for all on turning bone?

2018-07-09 Thread Lonnie Carlton
Yes, over the years I have used epoxies and hid glue but not on bone (much). I 
also have antique cars and have used all types of glue depending on the need. 
You already know more about the uses of bone than I do. If I can help, just let 
me know.

Thanks,

Lonnie

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
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Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2018 7:56 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FW: Question for all on turning bone?

 

Thank you Lonnie

 

So you use CA glue.That is something that I have lots of.  Have you tried 
Epoxies, or Hide glue?

 

Bone is not something that lots of people talk about,  I want to find out as 
much as I can on this topic.

 

Again Thank you.

 

talk to you and all more latter.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, July 8, 2018, 11:16:25 AM EDT, Lonnie Carlton 
mailto:lonniecarl...@comcast.net> > wrote: 

 

 

Hello Curt,

Looks like I forgot to attach the CA glue site. Please find it below.

 

https://www.starbond.com/

 

 

Thanks,

Lonnie

 

 

 

 

From: Lonnie Carlton [mailto:lonniecarl...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2018 8:52 AM
To: 'legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com' 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: Question for all on turning bone?

 

Hello Curt,

This is Lonnie (a new member) I am an old wood turner. Over the years I have 
work a lot with antlers, bone and horns making pen and inlays in bowls. I have 
had very good success using CA glue. Below, is a site where I am able to get CA 
glue in large quantizes at a low price just in case you may need one. 

Thanks,

Lonnie

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2018 5:53 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: Question for all on turning bone?

 

Hello Mac

Thank you for your reply.

I have read about the ants... But at this time soap and water will do me fine.  

 

The funny think about turning bone is What I hear is pretty much all the same 
stuff. Where to get it, cleaning.,, /but what I really want to know is how to 
make something out of 

bone its self. 

Most stuff that I've seen is very small things, like chess parts and buttons, 
sowing bobbins... What I've seen i on a few sites, are small boxes and ... 
larger things that just one bone can never be big enough. Which means to me I 
have to glue up a number of parts to make something bigger.

Now the question comes to mind is HOW? Wood glue? Epoxies? CA glue??? (to name 
just a few bonding methods.)Is Laminated turning the best way?  How about 
segmentation turning like how people make bowls. If I can take lots of little 
pieces and turn it into something much bigger, 

 

Its starting to look like I will be forced to do the old, trial and error 
method.  Just make something and see how it works out.

 

If you hear any more on this topic Mac. Please let me know.  

 

I have very little free time coming to me over the next few months. so for me 
its going to be hit or miss. when it comes to  chasing dreams. and new ideas.

 

If anyone can point me in the right direction, Please feel free to do so. ;-)

 

Have a good night.

 

talk to you all more latter.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Friday, July 6, 2018, 10:48:09 AM EDT, MWF mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> > wrote: 

 

 

Curt,

 

I recently talked with a taxidermist about the subject (more focused on skulls 
- but the info applies to other bones as well).

 

What I can tell you is regarding getting all the meat, marrow etc. off/out of 
the bones.  Her preferred way is using a particular beetle.  They consume all 
that "soft" stuff in the bone - leaving you with the "cleaned" bone.  Look that 
up on the internet.

 

Another method I have heard of is to place the bone(s) next to an ant nest.  
They will have a feast - after which you will have a "cleaned" bone.

Word of caution:  You may want to place a "cage" over the bones - since some 
rodents/critters may gnaw on the bone, or worse yet, run off with it.

 

Have a safe day.

Mac

  _  

  _  

 

-Original Message- 
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: Jul 6, 2018 10:34 AM 
To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills 
Subject: Question for all on turning bone? 

Hello Everyone.

As you all know, I am always looking at new turning materials,  I made a 
posting a week ago on turning bone.

 

Dose anyone have any info on this topic?  I have done a pretty large search on 
this topic as of late. but honestly I have not found much.

 

The outer part of the bone is all that is used. As for a leg bone,( the 
thickest bone) the edges can get somewhere just over 1/4" for thickness.

 

Knife makers use what is called Scales, they are basically the bone cut in 
half, and then sanded down to 1/4" to make the handles on knifes. 

Where turners, So what I have found out so 

RE: REVO Tilting table

2018-07-09 Thread Bill Bulkeley
You got it roger you are correct same saw Axminster in uk and Excalibur  in the 
US and Australia 

I would like a seyco scroll saw they have a better table but they aren’t 
available down under so the next best is Excalibur

 

Bill

 

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Sent: Monday, 9 July 2018 6:22 PM
To: Bill Bulkeley; Mike Pung
Subject: RE: REVO Tilting table

 

​Hi Bill & Richard

Just in passing I think Richard that the Axminster Scroll Saw is the same as 
the Excaliber that Bill has because Axminster think their brand name is better 
known than Excaliber!

Cheers

Roger 

​ 

 

​

From: Bill Bulkeley

Received: 09/07/2018 08:53:16 +01:00

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

Ps I forgot to tell you by tilting the front rails it tilts the table to form 
the taper. the guy does his with the bandsaw instead, the revo is easier and 
way more flatter’

I got mine from a woodwork magazine article it mostly shows what the video does 
and yes I did tilt the scroll saw I’m lucky it’s the saw that tilts not the 
table on my Excalibur makes the cutting much easier

 

Bill  

 

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
 Sent: Monday, 9 July 2018 5:08 PM
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Subject: Re: REVO Tilting table

 

Hi Bill

That does look like an interesting project. Do you by any chance have a 
pattern??? and what wood is it.?

The other thing did you also angle the scroll saw table, I can on my Axci. one

Richard

On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 12:29:17 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:

Yes I have, I used it with the table I needed to face a piece of timber in the 
shape of a wedge it was ½ inch thick down to 0 the timber was about 10 inches 
wide and about 2ft long and the taper was on the width and needed to be nice 
and smooth, flat and accurate. I was making a wooden nautilus shell like the 
one in the pic, it’s made of pieces of C shaped pieces of tapered wood cut on 
the Scrollsaw  and glued together. For a neat and gapless joint the tapered 
blank had to be very accurate the revo with a planeing bit was perfect for this.

Bill

 

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 Sent: Saturday, 7 July 2018 6:32 PM
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 Subject: REVO Tilting table

 

Does anyone ever use the front tilting table on the Revo, and if so what for??

I have never tried it yet

Richard

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RE: REVO Tilting table

2018-07-09 Thread Bawdsey64
Hi Bill & Richard
Just in passing I think Richard that the Axminster Scroll Saw is the same as 
the Excaliber that Bill has because Axminster think their brand name is better 
known than Excaliber!
Cheers
Roger






From: Bill Bulkeley
Received: 09/07/2018 08:53:16 +01:00
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Ps I forgot to tell you by tilting the front rails it tilts the table to form 
the taper. the guy does his with the bandsaw instead, the revo is easier and 
way more flatter’
I got mine from a woodwork magazine article it mostly shows what the video does 
and yes I did tilt the scroll saw I’m lucky it’s the saw that tilts not the 
table on my Excalibur makes the cutting much easier
 
Bill  
 
 
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 Sent: Monday, 9 July 2018 5:08 PM
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Subject: Re: REVO Tilting table
 
Hi Bill
That does look like an interesting project. Do you by any chance have a 
pattern??? and what wood is it.?
The other thing did you also angle the scroll saw table, I can on my Axci. one
Richard

On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 12:29:17 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
Yes I have, I used it with the table I needed to face a piece of timber in the 
shape of a wedge it was ½ inch thick down to 0 the timber was about 10 inches 
wide and about 2ft long and the taper was on the width and needed to be nice 
and smooth, flat and accurate. I was making a wooden nautilus shell like the 
one in the pic, it’s made of pieces of C shaped pieces of tapered wood cut on 
the Scrollsaw  and glued together. For a neat and gapless joint the tapered 
blank had to be very accurate the revo with a planeing bit was perfect for this.
Bill
 
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 Sent: Saturday, 7 July 2018 6:32 PM
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Subject: REVO Tilting table
 
Does anyone ever use the front tilting table on the Revo, and if so what for??
I have never tried it yet
Richard
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RE: REVO Tilting table

2018-07-09 Thread Bill Bulkeley
Ps I forgot to tell you by tilting the front rails it tilts the table to form 
the taper. the guy does his with the bandsaw instead, the revo is easier and 
way more flatter’ 

I got mine from a woodwork magazine article it mostly shows what the video does 
and yes I did tilt the scroll saw I’m lucky it’s the saw that tilts not the 
table on my Excalibur makes the cutting much easier

 

Bill  

 

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Monday, 9 July 2018 5:08 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Re: REVO Tilting table

 

Hi Bill

That does look like an interesting project. Do you by any chance have a 
pattern??? and what wood is it.?

The other thing did you also angle the scroll saw table, I can on my Axci. one

Richard

On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 12:29:17 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:

Yes I have, I used it with the table I needed to face a piece of timber in the 
shape of a wedge it was ½ inch thick down to 0 the timber was about 10 inches 
wide and about 2ft long and the taper was on the width and needed to be nice 
and smooth, flat and accurate. I was making a wooden nautilus shell like the 
one in the pic, it’s made of pieces of C shaped pieces of tapered wood cut on 
the Scrollsaw  and glued together. For a neat and gapless joint the tapered 
blank had to be very accurate the revo with a planeing bit was perfect for 
this. 

Bill

 

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Richard Ellis
Sent: Saturday, 7 July 2018 6:32 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: REVO Tilting table

 

Does anyone ever use the front tilting table on the Revo, and if so what for??

I have never tried it yet

Richard

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RE: REVO Tilting table

2018-07-09 Thread Bill Bulkeley
There is no pattern the wood is just pine I did the blanks on the revo to cut 
out all the flat plate sanding

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtgbNyHRFGA

 

the video shows how to make it I did it all on the scroll saw after the revo. I 
used a dermal for the inside sanding and a sponge sander in the wood lathe for 
the outside not too hard a job just lots of sanding., if you make one be sure 
to send me a pic

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Monday, 9 July 2018 5:08 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Re: REVO Tilting table

 

Hi Bill

That does look like an interesting project. Do you by any chance have a 
pattern??? and what wood is it.?

The other thing did you also angle the scroll saw table, I can on my Axci. one

Richard

On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 12:29:17 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:

Yes I have, I used it with the table I needed to face a piece of timber in the 
shape of a wedge it was ½ inch thick down to 0 the timber was about 10 inches 
wide and about 2ft long and the taper was on the width and needed to be nice 
and smooth, flat and accurate. I was making a wooden nautilus shell like the 
one in the pic, it’s made of pieces of C shaped pieces of tapered wood cut on 
the Scrollsaw  and glued together. For a neat and gapless joint the tapered 
blank had to be very accurate the revo with a planeing bit was perfect for 
this. 

Bill

 

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Richard Ellis
Sent: Saturday, 7 July 2018 6:32 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: REVO Tilting table

 

Does anyone ever use the front tilting table on the Revo, and if so what for??

I have never tried it yet

Richard

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Re: REVO Tilting table

2018-07-09 Thread Richard Ellis
Hi Bill
That does look like an interesting project. Do you by any chance have a 
pattern??? and what wood is it.?
The other thing did you also angle the scroll saw table, I can on my Axci. 
one
Richard

On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 12:29:17 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
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> Yes I have, I used it with the table I needed to face a piece of timber in 
> the shape of a wedge it was ½ inch thick down to 0 the timber was about 10 
> inches wide and about 2ft long and the taper was on the width and needed to 
> be nice and smooth, flat and accurate. I was making a wooden nautilus 
> shell like the one in the pic, it’s made of pieces of C shaped pieces of 
> tapered wood cut on the Scrollsaw  and glued together. For a neat and 
> gapless joint the tapered blank had to be very accurate the revo with a 
> planeing bit was perfect for this. 
>
> Bill
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> *Subject:* REVO Tilting table
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> Does anyone ever use the front tilting table on the Revo, and if so what 
> for??
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> I have never tried it yet
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