Re: Extended Revo And raiser

2019-09-09 Thread artmarbles
I think there is a plaque hanging over this group that say the exact thing.  
Legacy use to say in one of their ads, "Your imagination is the only 
limitation".  Boy where they right. I'm sure they never saw us coming! Were 
almost a cultSent from Samsung tablet
 Original message From: Tim Ziegler  
Date: 9/9/19  10:48 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: 
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Extended Revo And raiser 
Our old moto at Wood Craft use to be we only buy the machine as a starting 
point, then we modify it to do what we really want it to do. Same goes in our 
shops right? Jigs fixtures and mod's etc...Kind Regards,Timothy J. 
ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 
56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 12:17 PM Tim 
 wrote:That’s funny about the shortened 900.  I cut 
mine in half and plan to switch it to the size of the revo and make the revo 
shorter.  What a bunch of loonies we have in this group, nothing is sacred! Tim 
 From: Richard EllisSent: Monday, September 9, 2019 12:30 AMTo: Legacy 
Ornamental MillsSubject: Re: Extended Revo And raiser Hi Bill That is correct  
only a very thin bit of wood if over 14 inches wide.I am looking into fitting 
it to the 900 today. May use the rails that are for the horizontal vice  I am 
not too bothered with it as I am trying to sell the shortened 900    (no-one 
seems interested ) Ebay later on ??Richard 



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RE: Extended Revo And raiser

2019-09-09 Thread bulkeley
Yes revos do but I’m not going to follow up with this I’m happy with its rotary 
table the way it is. any larger jobs I will do on my other mills table.

 

Bill 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 11:35 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Extended Revo And raiser

 

Bill 

If the legs get in the way of lower the rails, How about raising the slide 
rails?

 

I have to admit, this REVO has some very real possibility's! 

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, September 9, 2019, 09:05:16 AM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

My mistake this is what Tim’s got I think very rare mill. Maybe I will make 
something similar  but with gears on the end

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au  
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 10:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: RE: Extended Revo And raiser

 

Richards pics show it best see how the rotary table mounts to the front rails 
then see how you cant lower the rails too far they hit the revos feet sticking 
out. But anything is possible the body could be lengthened  but it would be a 
major job and I just don’t want to do it I don’t need too if the revo was my 
only mill maybe but it’s not I do most of my rotary work on my double ended  
hybrid legacy mill. I might even build a dedicated rotary table mill a short  
900. I think Tim K has one too I got enough parts laying around to build one

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 9:12 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: Extended Revo And raiser

 

Hello and Good morning.

 

Bill I have only seen the REVO in pictures. but I would guess like the table 
risers Tim made, Couldn't something be made to raise and lower your rails, to 
make more room for the rotary table? Or even a piece of plywood mounted to the 
rails to lower your table?

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, September 9, 2019, 02:43:26 AM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

No the revos rails don’t drop very far to fit taller jobs, moving the table out 
and down would give you more Hight but then you would need to put longer cross 
slide rails so you could reach the middle of the rotary table with the router 
which I do have. Moving the rotary table out and down might cause stability 
problems too I guess you could brace it underneath with a couple of small screw 
jacks anything is possible. I do that with the revos milling table when I’m 
planning large jobs on it.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 2:35 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: RE: Extended Revo And raiser

 

Isn’t the limit because of the limit of the router bit range?  Could the depth 
be improved with a different mounting of the rotary table?

 

Tim

 

From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au  
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 3:45 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: RE: Extended Revo And raiser

 

Nice Richard why the plexiglass top?

The only problem with the revo roatry table is you cant get a lot of height. on 
your 900 you will I have never tried the revos one on a 900 as I have 2 a revo 
one and a 900s one be interesting to see how you fit it

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 12:35 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Extended Revo And raiser

 

Thought I would put a pic of my Revo Rotary Table. Note the visibility of it  
Have not tried it on the 900 so don't know if it would be better

Richard

On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 5:01:24 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:

Pretty Slick! 

 

You almost make me wish I had bought the REVO. (Sadly they did not make it 
until I had owned my 1000ex for a few years,by then.) (its just tool envy!)  ;-)

 

(As a side note, I called the REVO, a side saddle unit, when Legacy first 
offered it.) ;-p  Today? Well its a different story.

 

NIce job on both your fine tune risers as well as your spindle work.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Friday, September 6, 2019, 01:34:06 PM EDT, Richard Ellis 
mailto:rchrd...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hi Curt

I thought 

Re: Lathe Centers Sale - Check this out.

2019-09-09 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey Mike yup in for lunch my self.
I basically never really get to play or turn for what I'd refer to as
enjoyment. Pretty much everything is either spindle orders or chair and or
table legs. I turned some large collection plates for a Church a bit ago.
Also did some larger Hickory wall mount candle scones. These had a solid
Hickory round disc similar to a plate. Also turned some old old white oak
fence posts into a round with a special design. Can;t remember exactly what
they looked like. Just know it was a very dirty job lol.   A few ornaments
as well.
Some of the guys in the CMWWA sure turn some cool things. some day when I
get to just go out and play I'd like to try segmentation turning along with
other things.

I must confess I have not even tried the vacuum chuck and I've had since
I've owned the Chuck
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 12:20 PM Michael Kratky 
wrote:

> Tim,
>
> Like it al lot good and beefy which is important to minimize harmonic
> vibration and for smooth turning and that 3HP is great when using my core
> saving system on out o balance burls, I bought a swing away extension
> accessory for the tail stock that gets me to about 41” between centers.
>
>
>
> Do you turn any else in it besides spindles?
>
>
>
> Did I mention I also like the built in vacuum chuck system…
>
>
>
> Lunch break is over back to work on the road.
>
>
>
> Mike K
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 07, 2019 1:26 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Lathe Centers Sale - Check this out.
>
>
>
> How do you like you 4224 Mike? She's a beauty through and through, only
> wish I had the extension though. This last job
>
> I ended up putting my Shop smith live center in to get the length. They
> say its 42 but it will not do more then about 36 if your lucky.
>
> I sure do some checking on that as the stats claim 42 from center to
> center h.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 7:48 AM Michael Kratky 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Shop Smith has the best duplicator for those of you doing any kind of
> production work or prepping for the LOM, adaptable to most midsized lathes,
> just my 2₵ of advice,
>
> BTW, I also have a 4224B Powermatic
>
>
>
> Mike K
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Friday, September 06, 2019 9:44 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Lathe Centers Sale - Check this out.
>
>
>
> Thanks Mac,
>
>
>
> Yes several of us tool junkies have far to many toys e I mean tools
> lol.
>
> LOM, WC, Shop Smith and 4224 B by PM. but who counts.
>
> Thanks for the sale tip.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:51 PM MWF  wrote:
>
> Greetings everyone,
>
>
>
> Scroll to the bottom of the email at the below link to a "Turning Sale"
> that Shopsmith is having. (EVEN if you do not own a Shopsmith.)
>
> There you will find they have their lathe centers on sale - as well as
> their faceplates.
>
>
>
> I know that many of our Group Members own at least one Shopsmith in
> addition to their Legacy Mill.
>
> In any case, I think the lathe centers should work on both machines.
> Their quality has always been very good - and these prices are good
> considering what you are getting.  And, like with Legacy, I have found
> Shopsmith's Customer Service to be very good.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Mac
>
>
>
> Here's the link:  https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/specials/7DV366
>
>
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Re: Extended Revo And raiser

2019-09-09 Thread Tim Ziegler
Our old moto at Wood Craft use to be we only buy the machine as a starting
point, then we modify it to do what we really want it to do.
Same goes in our shops right? Jigs fixtures and mod's etc...
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 12:17 PM Tim  wrote:

> That’s funny about the shortened 900.  I cut mine in half and plan to
> switch it to the size of the revo and make the revo shorter.  What a bunch
> of loonies we have in this group, nothing is sacred!
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Richard Ellis 
> *Sent: *Monday, September 9, 2019 12:30 AM
> *To: *Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject: *Re: Extended Revo And raiser
>
>
>
> Hi Bill
>
> That is correct  only a very thin bit of wood if over 14 inches wide.
>
> I am looking into fitting it to the 900 today. May use the rails that are
> for the horizontal vice
>
> I am not too bothered with it as I am trying to sell the shortened 900
> (no-one seems interested ) Ebay later on ??
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
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Re: Questionable E-bay sale

2019-09-09 Thread MWF
I just checked the eBay listing - and there have been NO additional photos added to his posting.I have said (and will continue to contend) that IMHO that eBay listing of the LOM is a legit one. (My gut feeling.)I think there is no need to fret this one's "existence"!On the OTHER hand - there IS one on eBay that is (and has been) VERY SUSPECT!  It is this one out in Gardena, California - "Legacy CNC Ornamental wood working machine"I suggest if someone is wanting to ferret out bogus Mill listings, they start with this one.  I know several Members have commented on it (me included) - but so far, no Member in the area of Gardena has been there to check it out.  If we are lucky, Mike P. or NY Joe will make a roadtrip out there and check it out sometime this Autumn. LoLMac-Original Message-
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: Sep 9, 2019 9:29 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questionable E-bay sale


Thank you Steve.C.A.G.





On Monday, September 9, 2019, 08:56:20 AM EDT, Steve Drake  wrote:



I emailed him as well recommending more pictures and information and about him parting it out if it doesn't sell.  This is what I got.Thank
 you for the feedback. I have added more pictures like you suggested. 
They were from a Legacy catalogs of accessory items that I purchased. I 
chose to use catalog images because they included descriptions and 
functions better than I could have provided. I didn't include pictures 
of the mobility casters. I installed casters that I purchased locally. I
 also made a molding table myself instead of buying one. I purchased a 
set of spiral drive gears but I don't remember if they are a .25X 
reduction set or a 2X gear multiplier. I will try to ID them later. I 
hope this will fill in most of the information gaps that you said would 
be helpful. My
 plan is to list the mill for one month. I don't want to keep paying 
selling fees to ebay if it doesn't sell. I've thought about what you 
said about your interest in buying parts of the mill and I'm not 
interested in selling just parts. I'm flexible about the price for the 
complete mill system. If it doesn't sell, I will remove it from ebay and
 just keep it. I'm a hobbyist woodworker and I'm finding other hobbies 
that interest me for now. I decided to market the mill because I wasn't 
using it as much as I was using my other tools and equipment. In fact, 
I've tapered off making any woodworking projects for now. Later on, I 
can always resume making things with it if the interest returns. I hope 
this answers any questions that you might have had.-He feels that the pictures from the catalog are more descriptive then a picture of the tool itself.   SteveOn Sunday, September 8, 2019 at 12:20:07 PM UTC-4, Curt George wrote:https://www.ebay.com/itm/ Legacy-Ornamental-mill- machines-Model-1200/ 143371383252?hash= item216199b1d4:g:o- UAAOSwp8RdaFAELegacy Ornamental Mill, model 1200. Unit creates various wood moldings such as spindles, spirals, and fluted rope moldings. Many other molding profiles can be made on the mill. Create moldings and turnings without using a lathe. Included with the mill are many optional accessories such as a z-axis carriage, mobility kit, thin template and thin stock follower, 5 router bits, and 4x gear package and several more. All of which when purchased new totaling over $2,150.00. All of the assembly, operation, and accessory documents as well as training videos are included as well as web site access. Can make CNC quality moldings for a fraction of the cost. The mil sold new for $2,995 plus over $2,150.00 in optional accessories. Free shipping with full sale price only.If not picked up locally, time will be needed to disassemble and carefully identify the sub-assemblies for shipment so that the purchaser will be able to reassemble the unit without much difficulty. Additionally, the complete original assembly instructions will be provided.Hello Everyone,  Yesterday I posted this one. but it was placed under the other e-bay 1000ex. posting.This one has me wondering???  To me it looks to be. A military grade case of Dis-information.  There is just enough proof that this is real. (Parts that are shown) you would only have if you owned the machine.  like the Z axis templates...    Only three router bits look to have been used, everything else looks brand new.The only thing I know to be sure is, A design kit. and a set of Plaster dogs.  (AND For Tim Z. the only set of steady rest plastic guides that I have ever seen, out side of a catalog.)This might be a scam? or its a new machine that was NEVER Put together. Other wise you would see pictures for the machine not photos form the Legacy Catalog.Something to think about?  A X4 gear package!!! ( I missed that on the first view!) 

RE: Lathe Centers Sale - Check this out.

2019-09-09 Thread Michael Kratky
Tim,

Like it al lot good and beefy which is important to minimize harmonic vibration 
and for smooth turning and that 3HP is great when using my core saving system 
on out o balance burls, I bought a swing away extension accessory for the tail 
stock that gets me to about 41” between centers. 

 

Do you turn any else in it besides spindles?

 

Did I mention I also like the built in vacuum chuck system… 

 

Lunch break is over back to work on the road.

 

Mike K

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2019 1:26 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lathe Centers Sale - Check this out.

 

How do you like you 4224 Mike? She's a beauty through and through, only wish I 
had the extension though. This last job 

I ended up putting my Shop smith live center in to get the length. They say its 
42 but it will not do more then about 36 if your lucky. 

I sure do some checking on that as the stats claim 42 from center to center 
h.


Kind Regards, 

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 7:48 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Hi Tim,

Shop Smith has the best duplicator for those of you doing any kind of 
production work or prepping for the LOM, adaptable to most midsized lathes, 
just my 2₵ of advice,

BTW, I also have a 4224B Powermatic

 

Mike K

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2019 9:44 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lathe Centers Sale - Check this out.

 

Thanks Mac,

 

Yes several of us tool junkies have far to many toys e I mean tools lol. 

LOM, WC, Shop Smith and 4224 B by PM. but who counts. 

Thanks for the sale tip. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:51 PM MWF  wrote:

Greetings everyone,

 

Scroll to the bottom of the email at the below link to a "Turning Sale" that 
Shopsmith is having. (EVEN if you do not own a Shopsmith.)

There you will find they have their lathe centers on sale - as well as their 
faceplates.

 

I know that many of our Group Members own at least one Shopsmith in addition to 
their Legacy Mill.

In any case, I think the lathe centers should work on both machines.  Their 
quality has always been very good - and these prices are good considering what 
you are getting.  And, like with Legacy, I have found Shopsmith's Customer 
Service to be very good.

Enjoy!

Mac

 

Here's the link:  https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/specials/7DV366

 


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Moderators Note

2019-09-09 Thread Tim
It’s been a long time since I’ve mentioned some basic rules.  Please trim your 
post if there is excessive quotes.  It makes it hard to follow for some 
members.  Also when changing subjects, you have to start a completely new 
thread.  Just changing the subject line does not work.  I’m really excited to 
see some good threads going, keep up the good work.

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RE: Extended Revo And raiser

2019-09-09 Thread Tim
That’s funny about the shortened 900.  I cut mine in half and plan to switch it 
to the size of the revo and make the revo shorter.  What a bunch of loonies we 
have in this group, nothing is sacred!

Tim


From: Richard Ellis
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 12:30 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Re: Extended Revo And raiser

Hi Bill 
That is correct  only a very thin bit of wood if over 14 inches wide.
I am looking into fitting it to the 900 today. May use the rails that are for 
the horizontal vice  
I am not too bothered with it as I am trying to sell the shortened 900    
(no-one seems interested ) Ebay later on ??
Richard



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RE: Extended Revo And raiser

2019-09-09 Thread Tim
Yup, that’s legacy’s turning center.  I’m the only one that I’m aware of in 
this group.  I don’t recall how much depth it can do, but I do believe more 
than a 900/1200/1800 can.  I thought about adding gears but didn’t go any 
farther than that.  I figured since I had the capacity on my 900, it would have 
been a waste of time and money.

I need to get my revo built so I can see if anything can be done to lower the 
rails, but in my mind it’s very simple at the moment.  To plates and two formed 
pieces and you have added room by the feet.  I really should not be saying 
anything that I don’t already know about.

Tim


From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 6:05 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Extended Revo And raiser

My mistake this is what Tim’s got I think very rare mill. Maybe I will make 
something similar  but with gears on the end

Bill

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 10:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Extended Revo And raiser

Richards pics show it best see how the rotary table mounts to the front rails 
then see how you cant lower the rails too far they hit the revos feet sticking 
out. But anything is possible the body could be lengthened  but it would be a 
major job and I just don’t want to do it I don’t need too if the revo was my 
only mill maybe but it’s not I do most of my rotary work on my double ended  
hybrid legacy mill. I might even build a dedicated rotary table mill a short  
900. I think Tim K has one too I got enough parts laying around to build one

Bill

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 9:12 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Extended Revo And raiser

Hello and Good morning.

Bill I have only seen the REVO in pictures. but I would guess like the table 
risers Tim made, Couldn't something be made to raise and lower your rails, to 
make more room for the rotary table? Or even a piece of plywood mounted to the 
rails to lower your table?

C.A.G.

On Monday, September 9, 2019, 02:43:26 AM EDT,  wrote: 


No the revos rails don’t drop very far to fit taller jobs, moving the table out 
and down would give you more Hight but then you would need to put longer cross 
slide rails so you could reach the middle of the rotary table with the router 
which I do have. Moving the rotary table out and down might cause stability 
problems too I guess you could brace it underneath with a couple of small screw 
jacks anything is possible. I do that with the revos milling table when I’m 
planning large jobs on it.
 
Bill
 
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 2:35 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Extended Revo And raiser
 
Isn’t the limit because of the limit of the router bit range?  Could the depth 
be improved with a different mounting of the rotary table?
 
Tim
 
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 3:45 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Extended Revo And raiser
 
Nice Richard why the plexiglass top?
The only problem with the revo roatry table is you cant get a lot of height. on 
your 900 you will I have never tried the revos one on a 900 as I have 2 a revo 
one and a 900s one be interesting to see how you fit it
 
Bill
 
 
 
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 12:35 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Extended Revo And raiser
 
Thought I would put a pic of my Revo Rotary Table. Note the visibility of it  
Have not tried it on the 900 so don't know if it would be better
Richard

On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 5:01:24 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
Pretty Slick! 
 
You almost make me wish I had bought the REVO. (Sadly they did not make it 
until I had owned my 1000ex for a few years,by then.) (its just tool envy!)  ;-)
 
(As a side note, I called the REVO, a side saddle unit, when Legacy first 
offered it.) ;-p  Today? Well its a different story.
 
NIce job on both your fine tune risers as well as your spindle work.
 
C.A.G.
 
On Friday, September 6, 2019, 01:34:06 PM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 wrote: 
 
 
Hi Curt
I thought it best to start a new topic .The Revo is just the same but a bit 
longer. I have a drive to the spindle 414 v 3 ph. motor through an inverter  
Suitable for the U.K.
The raisers at each end are a great help .All they consist of are a long coach 
bolt with a nut  welded to a bit of angle iron. I drilled a small hole in the 
top of the bolt and epoxied a set screw in it. ,same size as the large legacy 
Allen wrench 
I can if a large up or down movement is needed use a cordless drill with a bit 
of Allen key in it. The wood work on the bolt enables a fine adjustment by hand 
 ( foregoing the Allen wrench, )
Hope you can understand 

Re: Extended Revo And raiser

2019-09-09 Thread Tim Ziegler
Thats pretty cool looks to be very accurate.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 8:05 AM  wrote:

> My mistake this is what Tim’s got I think very rare mill. Maybe I will
> make something similar  but with gears on the end
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Monday, 9 September 2019 10:49 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Extended Revo And raiser
>
>
>
> Richards pics show it best see how the rotary table mounts to the front
> rails then see how you cant lower the rails too far they hit the revos feet
> sticking out. But anything is possible the body could be lengthened  but it
> would be a major job and I just don’t want to do it I don’t need too if the
> revo was my only mill maybe but it’s not I do most of my rotary work on my
> double ended  hybrid legacy mill. I might even build a dedicated rotary
> table mill a short  900. I think Tim K has one too I got enough parts
> laying around to build one
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, 9 September 2019 9:12 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Extended Revo And raiser
>
>
>
> Hello and Good morning.
>
>
>
> Bill I have only seen the REVO in pictures. but I would guess like the
> table risers Tim made, Couldn't something be made to raise and lower your
> rails, to make more room for the rotary table? Or even a piece of plywood
> mounted to the rails to lower your table?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, September 9, 2019, 02:43:26 AM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> No the revos rails don’t drop very far to fit taller jobs, moving the
> table out and down would give you more Hight but then you would need to put
> longer cross slide rails so you could reach the middle of the rotary table
> with the router which I do have. Moving the rotary table out and down might
> cause stability problems too I guess you could brace it underneath with a
> couple of small screw jacks anything is possible. I do that with the revos
> milling table when I’m planning large jobs on it.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim
> *Sent:* Monday, 9 September 2019 2:35 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Extended Revo And raiser
>
>
>
> Isn’t the limit because of the limit of the router bit range?  Could the
> depth be improved with a different mounting of the rotary table?
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> *From: *bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent: *Sunday, September 8, 2019 3:45 PM
> *To: *legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *RE: Extended Revo And raiser
>
>
>
> Nice Richard why the plexiglass top?
>
> The only problem with the revo roatry table is you cant get a lot of
> height. on your 900 you will I have never tried the revos one on a 900 as I
> have 2 a revo one and a 900s one be interesting to see how you fit it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Monday, 9 September 2019 12:35 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: Extended Revo And raiser
>
>
>
> Thought I would put a pic of my Revo Rotary Table. *Note the visibility
> of it * Have not tried it on the 900 so don't know if it would be better
>
> Richard
>
> On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 5:01:24 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Pretty Slick!
>
>
>
> You almost make me wish I had bought the REVO. (Sadly they did not make it
> until I had owned my 1000ex for a few years,by then.) (its just tool
> envy!)  ;-)
>
>
>
> (As a side note, I called the REVO, a side saddle unit, when Legacy first
> offered it.) ;-p  Today? Well its a different story.
>
>
>
> NIce job on both your fine tune risers as well as your spindle work.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Friday, September 6, 2019, 01:34:06 PM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Curt
>
> I thought it best to start a new topic .The Revo is just the same but a
> bit longer. I have a drive to the spindle 414 v 3 ph. motor through an
> inverter  Suitable for the U.K.
>
> The raisers at each end are a great help .All they consist of are a long
> coach bolt with a nut  welded to a bit of angle iron. I drilled a small
> hole in the top of the bolt and epoxied a set screw in it. ,same size as
> the large legacy Allen wrench
>
> I can if a large up or down movement is needed use a cordless drill with a
> bit of Allen key in it. The wood work on the bolt enables a fine adjustment
> by hand  ( foregoing the Allen wrench, )
>
> Hope you can understand it
>
> Richard
>
> --
> You received this 

Re: Extended Revo And raiser

2019-09-09 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Bill If the legs get in the way of lower the rails, How about raising the 
slide rails?
I have to admit, this REVO has some very real possibility's! 
C.A.G.
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My mistake this is what Tim’s got I think very rare mill. Maybe I will make 
something similar  but with gears on the end

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 10:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Extended Revo And raiser

  

Richards pics show it best see how the rotary table mounts to the front rails 
then see how you cant lower the rails too far they hit the revos feet sticking 
out. But anything is possible the body could be lengthened  but it would be a 
major job and I just don’t want to do it I don’t need too if the revo was my 
only mill maybe but it’s not I do most of my rotary work on my double ended  
hybrid legacy mill. I might even build a dedicated rotary table mill a short  
900. I think Tim K has one too I got enough parts laying around to build one

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 9:12 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Extended Revo And raiser

  

Hello and Good morning.

  

Bill I have only seen the REVO in pictures. but I would guess like the table 
risers Tim made, Couldn't something be made to raise and lower your rails, to 
make more room for the rotary table? Or even a piece of plywood mounted to the 
rails to lower your table?

  


Re: Questionable E-bay sale

2019-09-09 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Thank you Steve.
C.A.G.
On Monday, September 9, 2019, 08:56:20 AM EDT, Steve Drake 
 wrote:  
 
 I emailed him as well recommending more pictures and information and about him 
parting it out if it doesn't sell.  This is what I got.

Thank you for the feedback. I have added more pictures like you suggested. They 
were from a Legacy catalogs of accessory items that I purchased. I chose to use 
catalog images because they included descriptions and functions better than I 
could have provided. I didn't include pictures of the mobility casters. I 
installed casters that I purchased locally. I also made a molding table myself 
instead of buying one. I purchased a set of spiral drive gears but I don't 
remember if they are a .25X reduction set or a 2X gear multiplier. I will try 
to ID them later. I hope this will fill in most of the information gaps that 
you said would be helpful. 


My plan is to list the mill for one month. I don't want to keep paying selling 
fees to ebay if it doesn't sell. I've thought about what you said about your 
interest in buying parts of the mill and I'm not interested in selling just 
parts. I'm flexible about the price for the complete mill system. If it doesn't 
sell, I will remove it from ebay and just keep it. I'm a hobbyist woodworker 
and I'm finding other hobbies that interest me for now. I decided to market the 
mill because I wasn't using it as much as I was using my other tools and 
equipment. In fact, I've tapered off making any woodworking projects for now. 
Later on, I can always resume making things with it if the interest returns. I 
hope this answers any questions that you might have had.
-

He feels that the pictures from the catalog are more descriptive then a picture 
of the tool itself.   

Steve

On Sunday, September 8, 2019 at 12:20:07 PM UTC-4, Curt George wrote:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ Legacy-Ornamental-mill- machines-Model-1200/ 
143371383252?hash= item216199b1d4:g:o- UAAOSwp8RdaFAE

| Legacy Ornamental Mill, model 1200. Unit creates various wood moldings such 
as spindles, spirals, and fluted rope moldings. Many other molding profiles can 
be made on the mill. Create moldings and turnings without using a lathe. 
Included with the mill are many optional accessories such as a z-axis carriage, 
mobility kit, thin template and thin stock follower, 5 router bits, and 4x gear 
package and several more. All of which when purchased new totaling over 
$2,150.00. All of the assembly, operation, and accessory documents as well as 
training videos are included as well as web site access. Can make CNC quality 
moldings for a fraction of the cost. The mil sold new for $2,995 plus over 
$2,150.00 in optional accessories. Free shipping with full sale price only.If 
not picked up locally, time will be needed to disassemble and carefully 
identify the sub-assemblies for shipment so that the purchaser will be able to 
reassemble the unit without much difficulty. Additionally, the complete 
original assembly instructions will be provided. |



Hello Everyone,  Yesterday I posted this one. but it was placed under the other 
e-bay 1000ex. posting.
This one has me wondering???  To me it looks to be. A military grade case of 
Dis-information.  There is just enough proof that this is real. (Parts that are 
shown) you would only have if you owned the machine.  like the Z axis 
templates...    Only three router bits look to have been used, everything else 
looks brand new.The only thing I know to be sure is, A design kit. and a set of 
Plaster dogs.  (AND For Tim Z. the only set of steady rest plastic guides that 
I have ever seen, out side of a catalog.)
This might be a scam? or its a new machine that was NEVER Put together. Other 
wise you would see pictures for the machine not photos form the Legacy Catalog.
Something to think about?  
A X4 gear package!!! ( I missed that on the first view!) 
When someone offer's you EVERYTHING with out proof. the Yankee Trader Motto 
comes to mind.  "Buyer Beware".
C.A.G. 


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RE: Extended Revo And raiser

2019-09-09 Thread bulkeley
My mistake this is what Tim’s got I think very rare mill. Maybe I will make 
something similar  but with gears on the end

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 10:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Extended Revo And raiser

 

Richards pics show it best see how the rotary table mounts to the front rails 
then see how you cant lower the rails too far they hit the revos feet sticking 
out. But anything is possible the body could be lengthened  but it would be a 
major job and I just don’t want to do it I don’t need too if the revo was my 
only mill maybe but it’s not I do most of my rotary work on my double ended  
hybrid legacy mill. I might even build a dedicated rotary table mill a short  
900. I think Tim K has one too I got enough parts laying around to build one

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 9:12 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: Extended Revo And raiser

 

Hello and Good morning.

 

Bill I have only seen the REVO in pictures. but I would guess like the table 
risers Tim made, Couldn't something be made to raise and lower your rails, to 
make more room for the rotary table? Or even a piece of plywood mounted to the 
rails to lower your table?

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, September 9, 2019, 02:43:26 AM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

No the revos rails don’t drop very far to fit taller jobs, moving the table out 
and down would give you more Hight but then you would need to put longer cross 
slide rails so you could reach the middle of the rotary table with the router 
which I do have. Moving the rotary table out and down might cause stability 
problems too I guess you could brace it underneath with a couple of small screw 
jacks anything is possible. I do that with the revos milling table when I’m 
planning large jobs on it.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 2:35 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: RE: Extended Revo And raiser

 

Isn’t the limit because of the limit of the router bit range?  Could the depth 
be improved with a different mounting of the rotary table?

 

Tim

 

From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au  
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 3:45 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: RE: Extended Revo And raiser

 

Nice Richard why the plexiglass top?

The only problem with the revo roatry table is you cant get a lot of height. on 
your 900 you will I have never tried the revos one on a 900 as I have 2 a revo 
one and a 900s one be interesting to see how you fit it

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 12:35 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Extended Revo And raiser

 

Thought I would put a pic of my Revo Rotary Table. Note the visibility of it  
Have not tried it on the 900 so don't know if it would be better

Richard

On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 5:01:24 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:

Pretty Slick! 

 

You almost make me wish I had bought the REVO. (Sadly they did not make it 
until I had owned my 1000ex for a few years,by then.) (its just tool envy!)  ;-)

 

(As a side note, I called the REVO, a side saddle unit, when Legacy first 
offered it.) ;-p  Today? Well its a different story.

 

NIce job on both your fine tune risers as well as your spindle work.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Friday, September 6, 2019, 01:34:06 PM EDT, Richard Ellis 
mailto:rchrd...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hi Curt

I thought it best to start a new topic .The Revo is just the same but a bit 
longer. I have a drive to the spindle 414 v 3 ph. motor through an inverter  
Suitable for the U.K.

The raisers at each end are a great help .All they consist of are a long coach 
bolt with a nut  welded to a bit of angle iron. I drilled a small hole in the 
top of the bolt and epoxied a set screw in it. ,same size as the large legacy 
Allen wrench 

I can if a large up or down movement is needed use a cordless drill with a bit 
of Allen key in it. The wood work on the bolt enables a fine adjustment by hand 
 ( foregoing the Allen wrench, )

Hope you can understand it

Richard

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Re: Questionable E-bay sale

2019-09-09 Thread Steve Drake
I emailed him as well recommending more pictures and information and about 
him parting it out if it doesn't sell.  This is what I got.


Thank you for the feedback. I have added more pictures like you suggested. 
They were from a Legacy catalogs of accessory items that I purchased. I 
chose to use catalog images because they included descriptions and 
functions better than I could have provided. I didn't include pictures of 
the mobility casters. I installed casters that I purchased locally. I also 
made a molding table myself instead of buying one. I purchased a set of 
spiral drive gears but I don't remember if they are a .25X reduction set or 
a 2X gear multiplier. I will try to ID them later. I hope this will fill in 
most of the information gaps that you said would be helpful. 

My plan is to list the mill for one month. I don't want to keep paying 
selling fees to ebay if it doesn't sell. I've thought about what you said 
about your interest in buying parts of the mill and I'm not interested in 
selling just parts. I'm flexible about the price for the complete mill 
system. If it doesn't sell, I will remove it from ebay and just keep it. 
I'm a hobbyist woodworker and I'm finding other hobbies that interest me 
for now. I decided to market the mill because I wasn't using it as much as 
I was using my other tools and equipment. In fact, I've tapered off making 
any woodworking projects for now. Later on, I can always resume making 
things with it if the interest returns. I hope this answers any questions 
that you might have had.
-

He feels that the pictures from the catalog are more descriptive then a 
picture of the tool itself.   

Steve

On Sunday, September 8, 2019 at 12:20:07 PM UTC-4, Curt George wrote:
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Legacy-Ornamental-mill-machines-Model-1200/143371383252?hash=item216199b1d4:g:o-UAAOSwp8RdaFAE
> Legacy Ornamental Mill, model 1200. Unit creates various wood moldings 
> such as spindles, spirals, and fluted rope moldings. Many other molding 
> profiles can be made on the mill. Create moldings and turnings without 
> using a lathe. Included with the mill are many optional accessories such as 
> a z-axis carriage, mobility kit, thin template and thin stock follower, 5 
> router bits, and 4x gear package and several more. All of which when 
> purchased new totaling over $2,150.00. 
> All of the assembly, operation, and accessory documents as well as 
> training videos are included as well as web site access. Can make CNC 
> quality moldings for a fraction of the cost. The mil sold new for $2,995 
> plus over $2,150.00 in optional accessories. *Free shipping with full 
> sale price only*.
> If not picked up locally, time will be needed to disassemble and carefully 
> identify the sub-assemblies for shipment so that the purchaser will be 
> able to reassemble the unit without much difficulty. Additionally, the 
> complete original assembly instructions will be provided.
>
>
> Hello Everyone,  Yesterday I posted this one. but it was placed under the 
> other e-bay 1000ex. posting.
>
> This one has me wondering???  To me it looks to be. A military grade case 
> of Dis-information.  
> There is just enough proof that this is real. (Parts that are shown) you 
> would only have if you owned the machine.  like the Z axis templates...
> Only three router bits look to have been used, everything else looks brand 
> new.
> The only thing I know to be sure is, A design kit. and a set of Plaster 
> dogs.  (AND For Tim Z. the only set of steady rest plastic guides that I 
> have ever seen, out side of a catalog.)
>
> This might be a scam? or its a new machine that was NEVER Put together. 
> Other wise you would see pictures for the machine not photos form the 
> Legacy Catalog.
>
> Something to think about?  
>
> A X4 gear package!!! ( I missed that on the first view!) 
>
> When someone offer's you EVERYTHING with out proof. the Yankee Trader 
> Motto comes to mind.  "Buyer Beware".
>
> C.A.G. 
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Re: TK Made Items

2019-09-09 Thread Tim Ziegler
Thanks for the input and advice Tim. I own all the index plates as I had
Cindy get them made along with pretty much everything else that
they still made or had available.  So I am a total control freak and worked
in the Tooling dept at WoodCraft Industries inc. for  27 years
so I have instilled in my mind 10ths thousands on the tooling side and
thousands on the moulder side. So a little anal on the accuracy.
It kills me some days lol.  So point is I'd love to create that one that
mounts underneath.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 11:23 PM Tim  wrote:

> After using the index ring on the rotary table for a while I learned that
> it’s useful only for the odd degrees.  A turn on the handle or ¼ turn is
> accurate enough.  I do also have a index wheel that mounts on the underside
> that engages a pin that works extremely well for a control freak.
> Unfortunately, it’s limited to the number of index plates you own.
>
>
>
> If I were to buy another laser for engraving, I would find a guy that owns
> one and use him to cut your parts.  C02 lasers you see available for cheap
> die from simply sitting around.  The tubes are like a pop bottle, they
> loose their fiz and you have to buy another one.  So I think let the other
> guy spend his money.  Only problem is finding one that knows what they are
> doing.
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> *From: *Tim Ziegler 
> *Sent: *Sunday, September 8, 2019 9:46 AM
> *To: *legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: TK Made Items
>
>
>
> That indexable table I am really interested in creating for my Rotary
> table.
>
> We are looking hard at a laser engraver for the business and may consider
> trying to cut those out. Thoughts? Tim
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 7:08 AM Tim  wrote:
>
> I found some other simple links.  Keep in mind, some of this is really
> old.
>
>
>
> Here’s some attempts at making the rotary table easier to use.
>
>
>
> This is one of my favorites.
>
> https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/TK_rotary_table_indexing/index.html
>
>
>
> This is a huge time saver for small parts and large a well.  Centering
> difficulties have been eliminated.  My only change after this was to add a
> low profile t-track (not shown) for additional clamping opportunities.
>
>
>
> https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/TK_rotary_table_indexing/index.html
>
>
>
>
>
> I didn’t make this, but I discovered the harbor freight dial indicators
> fit perfect in the router from hell.  No need for my digital scale
> conversion. I’ll admit I mostly use my digital scale though.
>
>
>
> https://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/z-axis_dial_indicator/index.html
>
>
>
> Well I  think that is all the simple links to my stuff.  There are so many
> pictures to come.
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Extended Revo And raiser

2019-09-09 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Hello and Good morning.
Bill I have only seen the REVO in pictures. but I would guess like the table 
risers Tim made, Couldn't something be made to raise and lower your rails, to 
make more room for the rotary table? Or even a piece of plywood mounted to the 
rails to lower your table?
C.A.G.
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No the revos rails don’t drop very far to fit taller jobs, moving the table out 
and down would give you more Hight but then you would need to put longer cross 
slide rails so you could reach the middle of the rotary table with the router 
which I do have. Moving the rotary table out and down might cause stability 
problems too I guess you could brace it underneath with a couple of small screw 
jacks anything is possible. I do that with the revos milling table when I’m 
planning large jobs on it.

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 2:35 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Extended Revo And raiser

  

Isn’t the limit because of the limit of the router bit range?  Could the depth 
be improved with a different mounting of the rotary table?

  

Tim

  

From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 3:45 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Extended Revo And raiser

  

Nice Richard why the plexiglass top?

The only problem with the revo roatry table is you cant get a lot of height. on 
your 900 you will I have never tried the revos one on a 900 as I have 2 a revo 
one and a 900s one be interesting to see how you fit it

  

Bill

  

  

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 12:35 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Extended Revo And raiser

  

Thought I would put a pic of my Revo Rotary Table. Note the visibility of it  
Have not tried it on the 900 so don't know if it would be better

Richard

On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 5:01:24 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:


Pretty Slick! 

  

You almost make me wish I had bought the REVO. (Sadly they did not make it 
until I had owned my 1000ex for a few years,by then.) (its just tool envy!)  ;-)

  

(As a side note, I called the REVO, a side saddle unit, when Legacy first 
offered it.) ;-p  Today? Well its a different story.

  

NIce job on both your fine tune risers as well as your spindle work.

  

C.A.G.

  

On Friday, September 6, 2019, 01:34:06 PM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 wrote: 

  

  

Hi Curt

I thought it best to start a new topic .The Revo is just the same but a bit 
longer. I have a drive to the spindle 414 v 3 ph. motor through an inverter  
Suitable for the U.K.

The raisers at each end are a great help .All they consist of are a long coach 
bolt with a nut  welded to a bit of angle iron. I drilled a small hole in the 
top of the bolt and epoxied a set screw in it. ,same size as the large legacy 
Allen wrench 

I can if a large up or down movement is needed use a cordless drill with a bit 
of Allen key in it. The wood work on the bolt enables a fine adjustment by hand 
 ( foregoing the Allen wrench, )

Hope you can understand it

Richard

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Re: Extended Revo And raiser

2019-09-09 Thread Richard Ellis
The plexi glass top is so I can get the hot melt glue off easily . Revo 
Rotary table, I just can't see how to get a larger dia. or thicker stock in 
it
.If i wanted to fit the Revo Rotary Table to the 900 I would use the 
horizontal vice rails -only fit them under the bed rails. The take 
the brackets off the Rotary table and drill to more holes in the table to 
allow for the gear mechanism.
Richard 

On Monday, September 9, 2019 at 8:30:15 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>
> Hi Bill 
> That is correct  only a very thin bit of wood if over 14 inches wide.
> I am looking into fitting it to the 900 today. May use the rails that are 
> for the horizontal vice  
> I am not too bothered with it as I am trying to sell the shortened 900
> (no-one seems interested ) Ebay later on ??
> Richard
>
> On Sunday, September 8, 2019 at 11:45:29 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>>
>> Nice Richard why the plexiglass top?
>>
>> The only problem with the revo roatry table is you cant get a lot of 
>> height. on your 900 you will I have never tried the revos one on a 900 as I 
>> have 2 a revo one and a 900s one be interesting to see how you fit it
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>> *Sent:* Monday, 9 September 2019 12:35 AM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> *Subject:* Re: Extended Revo And raiser
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thought I would put a pic of my Revo Rotary Table. *Note the visibility 
>> of it * Have not tried it on the 900 so don't know if it would be better
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 5:01:24 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>>
>> Pretty Slick! 
>>
>>  
>>
>> You almost make me wish I had bought the REVO. (Sadly they did not make 
>> it until I had owned my 1000ex for a few years,by then.) (its just tool 
>> envy!)  ;-)
>>
>>  
>>
>> (As a side note, I called the REVO, a side saddle unit, when Legacy first 
>> offered it.) ;-p  Today? Well its a different story.
>>
>>  
>>
>> NIce job on both your fine tune risers as well as your spindle work.
>>
>>  
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Friday, September 6, 2019, 01:34:06 PM EDT, Richard Ellis <
>> rchrd...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hi Curt
>>
>> I thought it best to start a new topic .The Revo is just the same but a 
>> bit longer. I have a drive to the spindle 414 v 3 ph. motor through an 
>> inverter  Suitable for the U.K.
>>
>> The raisers at each end are a great help .All they consist of are a long 
>> coach bolt with a nut  welded to a bit of angle iron. I drilled a small 
>> hole in the top of the bolt and epoxied a set screw in it. ,same size as 
>> the large legacy Allen wrench 
>>
>> I can if a large up or down movement is needed use a cordless drill with 
>> a bit of Allen key in it. The wood work on the bolt enables a fine 
>> adjustment by hand  ( foregoing the Allen wrench, )
>>
>> Hope you can understand it
>>
>> Richard
>>
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Re: Extended Revo And raiser

2019-09-09 Thread Richard Ellis
Hi Bill 
That is correct  only a very thin bit of wood if over 14 inches wide.
I am looking into fitting it to the 900 today. May use the rails that are 
for the horizontal vice  
I am not too bothered with it as I am trying to sell the shortened 900
(no-one seems interested ) Ebay later on ??
Richard

On Sunday, September 8, 2019 at 11:45:29 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>
> Nice Richard why the plexiglass top?
>
> The only problem with the revo roatry table is you cant get a lot of 
> height. on your 900 you will I have never tried the revos one on a 900 as I 
> have 2 a revo one and a 900s one be interesting to see how you fit it
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *Richard 
> Ellis
> *Sent:* Monday, 9 September 2019 12:35 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills  >
> *Subject:* Re: Extended Revo And raiser
>
>  
>
> Thought I would put a pic of my Revo Rotary Table. *Note the visibility 
> of it * Have not tried it on the 900 so don't know if it would be better
>
> Richard
>
> On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 5:01:24 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Pretty Slick! 
>
>  
>
> You almost make me wish I had bought the REVO. (Sadly they did not make it 
> until I had owned my 1000ex for a few years,by then.) (its just tool 
> envy!)  ;-)
>
>  
>
> (As a side note, I called the REVO, a side saddle unit, when Legacy first 
> offered it.) ;-p  Today? Well its a different story.
>
>  
>
> NIce job on both your fine tune risers as well as your spindle work.
>
>  
>
> C.A.G.
>
>  
>
> On Friday, September 6, 2019, 01:34:06 PM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Hi Curt
>
> I thought it best to start a new topic .The Revo is just the same but a 
> bit longer. I have a drive to the spindle 414 v 3 ph. motor through an 
> inverter  Suitable for the U.K.
>
> The raisers at each end are a great help .All they consist of are a long 
> coach bolt with a nut  welded to a bit of angle iron. I drilled a small 
> hole in the top of the bolt and epoxied a set screw in it. ,same size as 
> the large legacy Allen wrench 
>
> I can if a large up or down movement is needed use a cordless drill with a 
> bit of Allen key in it. The wood work on the bolt enables a fine adjustment 
> by hand  ( foregoing the Allen wrench, )
>
> Hope you can understand it
>
> Richard
>
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RE: Extended Revo And raiser

2019-09-09 Thread bulkeley
No the revos rails don’t drop very far to fit taller jobs, moving the table out 
and down would give you more Hight but then you would need to put longer cross 
slide rails so you could reach the middle of the rotary table with the router 
which I do have. Moving the rotary table out and down might cause stability 
problems too I guess you could brace it underneath with a couple of small screw 
jacks anything is possible. I do that with the revos milling table when I’m 
planning large jobs on it.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 2:35 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Extended Revo And raiser

 

Isn’t the limit because of the limit of the router bit range?  Could the depth 
be improved with a different mounting of the rotary table?

 

Tim

 

From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au  
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 3:45 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: RE: Extended Revo And raiser

 

Nice Richard why the plexiglass top?

The only problem with the revo roatry table is you cant get a lot of height. on 
your 900 you will I have never tried the revos one on a 900 as I have 2 a revo 
one and a 900s one be interesting to see how you fit it

 

Bill

 

 

 

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mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 12:35 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Extended Revo And raiser

 

Thought I would put a pic of my Revo Rotary Table. Note the visibility of it  
Have not tried it on the 900 so don't know if it would be better

Richard

On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 5:01:24 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:

Pretty Slick! 

 

You almost make me wish I had bought the REVO. (Sadly they did not make it 
until I had owned my 1000ex for a few years,by then.) (its just tool envy!)  ;-)

 

(As a side note, I called the REVO, a side saddle unit, when Legacy first 
offered it.) ;-p  Today? Well its a different story.

 

NIce job on both your fine tune risers as well as your spindle work.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Friday, September 6, 2019, 01:34:06 PM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 > wrote: 

 

 

Hi Curt

I thought it best to start a new topic .The Revo is just the same but a bit 
longer. I have a drive to the spindle 414 v 3 ph. motor through an inverter  
Suitable for the U.K.

The raisers at each end are a great help .All they consist of are a long coach 
bolt with a nut  welded to a bit of angle iron. I drilled a small hole in the 
top of the bolt and epoxied a set screw in it. ,same size as the large legacy 
Allen wrench 

I can if a large up or down movement is needed use a cordless drill with a bit 
of Allen key in it. The wood work on the bolt enables a fine adjustment by hand 
 ( foregoing the Allen wrench, )

Hope you can understand it

Richard

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