Zig Zag patterns.

2020-05-27 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Hello Everyone.
I found some pictures of some stone columns that has a unique pattern.I think 
would be fun to try to make on the Legacy.I have not made it, Yet.  (AND have 
not even attempted to do so yet.) 
What I thought would be fun is to ask everyone in the group, how would you make 
something like this? ((Zig Zag pattern.)) 
There is almost 1000 ways to do anything. The idea for this group, came form 
the willingness to learn and grow in our wood working.
Think of this as a challenge to grow.  and to help others grow though your 
experiences.Size/scale of this project dose not need to be big. Can you think 
of a way to maintain a pattern like this is the goal. How  you do it is up to 
you...Lets hear your ideas.
C.A.G.

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Re: REVO PICS

2020-05-27 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Hello again.
I just measured all the rails.
Legacy's rail is 1.62" on the thin side and 1.87" on the wide side.The 16mm 
linear rails are 1.56" wide.The 20mm are 1.72" wide.
So the 20mm would fit better on the wide part of the rail, and like what I did 
the 16mm fit well on the thin side.Im not sure if it really matters, but just 
in case someone attempts to modify there Legacy's, things like this might make 
a difference?

Just me two cents worth of it.Have a good day.
C.A.G.On Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 09:59:06 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:  
 
  Thank you, for the pix's.
I do have a few questions.
on photo #2 the end view, what is that steel bracket with the slot?Also what is 
that Samson box? a motor speed control?
I did not know that the rail orientation is not the same as my 1000ex.'s your 
top slides are using the wide slot.  If someone would convert linear slides 
onto this machine, it would be nice to make sure the slides look as they were 
made to fit this machine, the 16mm fit like a glove on the thin side of the 
rails,  Let me check.Ive got both 16mm linear slides as well as 20mm linear 
slides, Let me take a look at the two and see which looks better on the wide 
slide.Can you also take a photo of the Y movement. (how the router is mounted 
to the carriage?)
Have a good day.
C.A.G.
On Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 06:58:21 AM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi Curt,Here are a few pics of my Revo. Don't hesitate to ask questions and it 
applies to anyone who is interestedRichard

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Re: patents, copyrights, trademarks

2020-05-27 Thread John Hennen
then make a list of what you want and send them to Andy

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 1:08 AM  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
>
>
> I don’t have any drawings from Legacy.
>
>
>
> -Tim
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *John Hennen
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2020 2:29 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: patents, copyrights, trademarks
>
>
>
> From the legacy perspective... Make them! Tim has been given the drawings
> for split nuts, bearings and if he needs anything else he can drop andy a
> line.  As for the design kit, go for it! if you have a laser and can cut
> them then do it! we give the DXF patterns of all the bits on our website as
> a FREE download to anyone that wants to download them.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 2:14 PM Michael Kratky 
> wrote:
>
> FYI:
>
>
>
> A U.S. *utility patent*, is generally granted for 20 years from the date
> the patent application is filed; however, periodic fees are required to
> maintain the enforceability of the patent. A design patent is generally
> granted protection for 14 years measured from the date the design patent is
> granted.
>
> A U.S. t*rademark *generally lasts as long as the trademark is used in
> commerce and defended against infringement.
>
> *Copyright protection* is for a limited term. For works created after
> January 1, 1978, copyrights last for 70 years after the death of the
> author. For works "made for hire" (covering the usual type of work owned by
> a small business), the copyright lasts for a term of 95 years from the year
> of its first publication or a term of 120 years from the year of its
> creation, whichever expires first.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, May 25, 2020 11:17 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Height gauge
>
>
>
> Good suggestion.
>
> You never know until you ask...
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 25, 2020, 11:14:59 PM EDT, Ryan Jurgens <
> rtjurg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Why doesn't someone just call Legacy and see if it is ok? If tbey aren't
> making them anymore than perhaps they won't mind.
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:12 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Denson
>
> That is a good offer, but Legacy and or Magnate, owns the copy writes to
> those profiles/templates...  I think we may have a problem selling anything
> with a copy infringement,
>
> I would suggest if you want a copy for your self. do so, but when money is
> involved Legal areas are a bit cloudy,   Which means lawyers... at the
> worst, and Making Legacy (the comp.) Mad, to be sure.
>
> I don't think its a good idea.
>
>
>
> With products like this, there really is not any money to be made. the
> market is just not there. Why take the chances, the penalty far out way the
> profit.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 25, 2020, 05:30:56 PM EDT, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey fellers,
>
> I got a set of the design router templates when I bought my used LOM 1200.
>
> I have a friend who wants a set of templates so I contacted a guy I know
> who has a laser engraver/cnc who says he can duplicate them for $30 ea. For
> the 3, $90.
>
> Is that a good price or is there a cheaper way?
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
> On May 25, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Donald Donley  wrote:
>
> 
>
> If you can't find what you are looking for - Woodcraft sells a number of
> Wixey products that may serve a a great substitute - good luck!
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 7:07 AM ITwoodwork  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Monday, 25 May 2020 00:19:40 UTC+1, legacy woodworking wrote:
>
> Does anyone know where Legacy got the height gauge for the carrier
> upgrade?  I have somehow lost one of the little buttons on mine (I have had
> them fall out several times but most of the time I find them right away)
>
>
>
> Do you have a photo of the actual height gauge less the missing part, it
> may be a small metric thread rather than American.
>
> Cheers
>
> Roger in UK
>
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Re: REVO PICS

2020-05-27 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Thank you, for the pix's.
I do have a few questions.
on photo #2 the end view, what is that steel bracket with the slot?Also what is 
that Samson box? a motor speed control?
I did not know that the rail orientation is not the same as my 1000ex.'s your 
top slides are using the wide slot.  If someone would convert linear slides 
onto this machine, it would be nice to make sure the slides look as they were 
made to fit this machine, the 16mm fit like a glove on the thin side of the 
rails,  Let me check.Ive got both 16mm linear slides as well as 20mm linear 
slides, Let me take a look at the two and see which looks better on the wide 
slide.Can you also take a photo of the Y movement. (how the router is mounted 
to the carriage?)
Have a good day.
C.A.G.
On Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 06:58:21 AM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi Curt,Here are a few pics of my Revo. Don't hesitate to ask questions and it 
applies to anyone who is interestedRichard

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RE: patents, copyrights, trademarks

2020-05-27 Thread artmarbles
Hi John,

 

I don’t have any drawings from Legacy.

 

-Tim

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of John Hennen
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 2:29 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: patents, copyrights, trademarks

 

>From the legacy perspective... Make them! Tim has been given the drawings for 
>split nuts, bearings and if he needs anything else he can drop andy a line.  
>As for the design kit, go for it! if you have a laser and can cut them then do 
>it! we give the DXF patterns of all the bits on our website as a FREE download 
>to anyone that wants to download them.  

 

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 2:14 PM Michael Kratky mailto:krat...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:

FYI:

 

A U.S. utility patent, is generally granted for 20 years from the date the 
patent application is filed; however, periodic fees are required to maintain 
the enforceability of the patent. A design patent is generally granted 
protection for 14 years measured from the date the design patent is granted.

A U.S. trademark generally lasts as long as the trademark is used in commerce 
and defended against infringement.

Copyright protection is for a limited term. For works created after January 1, 
1978, copyrights last for 70 years after the death of the author. For works 
"made for hire" (covering the usual type of work owned by a small business), 
the copyright lasts for a term of 95 years from the year of its first 
publication or a term of 120 years from the year of its creation, whichever 
expires first. 

Michael

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 ] 
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 11:17 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: Height gauge

 

Good suggestion.

You never know until you ask...

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, May 25, 2020, 11:14:59 PM EDT, Ryan Jurgens mailto:rtjurg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Why doesn't someone just call Legacy and see if it is ok? If tbey aren't making 
them anymore than perhaps they won't mind.

 

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:12 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello Denson

That is a good offer, but Legacy and or Magnate, owns the copy writes to those 
profiles/templates...  I think we may have a problem selling anything with a 
copy infringement, 

I would suggest if you want a copy for your self. do so, but when money is 
involved Legal areas are a bit cloudy,   Which means lawyers... at the worst, 
and Making Legacy (the comp.) Mad, to be sure. 

I don't think its a good idea.

 

With products like this, there really is not any money to be made. the market 
is just not there. Why take the chances, the penalty far out way the profit.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, May 25, 2020, 05:30:56 PM EDT, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental 
Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hey fellers, 

I got a set of the design router templates when I bought my used LOM 1200. 

I have a friend who wants a set of templates so I contacted a guy I know who 
has a laser engraver/cnc who says he can duplicate them for $30 ea. For the 3, 
$90. 

Is that a good price or is there a cheaper way?

Sent from Denson's iPhone

 

On May 25, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Donald Donley mailto:apteryx...@gmail.com> > wrote:



If you can't find what you are looking for - Woodcraft sells a number of Wixey 
products that may serve a a great substitute - good luck!

 

 

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 7:07 AM ITwoodwork mailto:rhp...@gmail.com> > wrote:



On Monday, 25 May 2020 00:19:40 UTC+1, legacy woodworking wrote:

Does anyone know where Legacy got the height gauge for the carrier upgrade?  I 
have somehow lost one of the little buttons on mine (I have had them fall out 
several times but most of the time I find them right away)

 

Do you have a photo of the actual height gauge less the missing part, it may be 
a small metric thread rather than American.

Cheers

Roger in UK 

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Re: Revo & 900

2020-05-27 Thread Richard Ellis
Hi Curt
Will do. Have to charge the camera battery up!! My mobile phone does not do 
pics, in actual fact still has money left on it from 3 years ago -It 
started out with £10.00 You may think why.
Richard

On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 3:03:00 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Richard could you post a few pictures of your REVO  I would very much like 
> to see it.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 04:28:56 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com > wrote: 
>
>
> Hi Curt
> Have now been able to reply. The Revo that I managed to persuade the owner 
> to part with. It was first bought by an old member of this group ( Maccwag 
> ) or some name like that ---All bells and whistles __ I have put a Vari 
> power drive to the headstock ---so much better and a live tailstock. 
> That I made when I had my metal work lathe. And off course the longer rails 
> from the 900. Some important bits missing from that. It ,the 900 does come 
> in handy when planing small bits of tough wood.
> All the best
>  Richard
>
> On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 3:20:11 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Hello and Good morning.
>
> Making a high-bread Revo is something that I would like to know more 
> about. 
> Please let us know what you do and how you did what you did, on this 
> project.
>
> One small note.   16mm full supported linear slides fit the Legacy alum, 
> rail like a glove, If you are going to modifie your machine, I rec e mend 
> it over the old glides/slides.
> https://www.amazon.com/SHZOND- Linear-0-78-47-Bearing- 
> Routers/dp/B07DYQS23Q/ref=sr_ 1_12?dchild=1=16mm+ 
> linear+rails=1590329891& sr=8-12 
> 
>  
> [image: Inline image]
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, May 24, 2020, 07:23:54 AM EDT, Bawdsey64  
> wrote: 
>
>
> ​Hi Richard
>
> You have to understand Legacy owners, some user the machine all the time, 
> they I would suggest are few. Some have it in their armoury for when they 
> need it whilst a few just have one. It is the same with many tools but in 
> the case of Legacy machines in the UK very few pop their head up above the 
> barricade. I sold over a hundred machines, including 30 plus REVOs. Now 
> since retirement I have helped a couple move on. 
>
> You have to face the fact you are not very good at playing "Hunt the 
> Legacy", the UK version of the game.
>
> Never mind eh!
>
> Roger
>
> ​
>
>
> ​
> From: Richard Ellis
> Received: 24/05/2020 12:04:00 +01:00
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
> I have a Revo and also a 900 ,The 900 I do not want I just bought it to 
> get the Rails from it to fit the Revo ( to extend it )
> The 900 came with the Z and various other bits and bobs, although some are 
> half missing bits, i:e to make any use of them
> The bits I was thinking of fitting to the Revo are:-  Dust shields and 
> leadscrew of the carriage,I have the Z but do not use it as it came with 
> the 900 and I did not buy the 110 volt converter and router. I have been 
> thinking of putting it on the Revo. However having had bad reports about 
> it's behavior  I am still not decided Bill in Aussie did want it.But was a 
> bit of a hassle with postage.Has anyone used bits from the 900 to make the 
> Revo even better.
> In the U.K. I have found only one Revo owner,, or in fact, any Legacy 
> users Ray ,, are you still active and O.K.??? Have not seen a post on 
> this site from you lately.
> Keep safe in this lock down
> Richard
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