Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[Arkady Paka]

Thanks Curt and Tim.
Arkady from Ukraine.

пт, 19 июн. 2020 г., 07:25 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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> Thanks Tim.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, June 18, 2020, 05:01:23 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Arkady,
>
>
>
> The model 1000 is completely different from what you need. The attached
> file from the manual might help you see how it was done on the last version
> of the OM..
>
>
>
> -Tim
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Re: trouble

[M.W.Foscue]

Hi Bill,I received your below.Sending this one to see if you got it fixed and are back on-line.Mac-Original Message-
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
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Just letting you all know it looks like I’m off line for a while my email is not receiving I haven’t had a email in 2 days will let you all know when it working again sorry for not answer any posts Bill




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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Thanks Tim.
C.A.G.
On Thursday, June 18, 2020, 05:01:23 PM EDT,  
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Arkady,

  

The model 1000 is completely different from what you need. The attached file 
from the manual might help you see how it was done on the last version of the 
OM.. 

  

-Tim

  

  


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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[wkhill99 .]

Hey Bill,

Steppers are variable speed and can have pretty high torque at low speeds.
Just needs to be sized correctly for the LOM (I'm thinking a nema 23 or
34).  Here's an example youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FsA1yoZ840  About 1 min or so into the
video, the fellow has the motor going really slowly.

Wes

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 10:39 PM  wrote:

> I don’t know anything about stepper motors aren’t they high speed rpm or
> can they run slow without torque  loss
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *wkhill99 .
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 17 June 2020 1:12 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
>
>
> Has anyone considered using stepper motors / drivers with their
> legacy, like a nema-23 or 34?
>
>
>
> Wes
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 7:09 PM  wrote:
>
> Legacys exact  motor was a dayton 4Z131B 90volt dc motor
>
> Bill
>
> -Original Message-
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 9:58 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
> Thanks for the clarification, John.  I very much appreciate the
> follow-up!
>
> John Tyler
>
> 
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> on behalf of John Hennen <
> john.hen...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 3:32 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
> Grainge stopped making the speed control in 2005. The DC motor we used
> ended in 2008.
>
> I recommended a Dzc motor with a 5/8 shaft. But you may have forgotten
> that.  The speed control you will need to fit the motor.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:18 PM JOHNNY L TYLER  cloudanc...@msn.com>> wrote:
> Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no longer
> makes/supplies the motor or limit switches.  More discouraging was the news
> that he has no other sources to recommend to me/us.  Dead end there!  Looks
> like Bill is the resident expert on do-it-yourself drive motors!
>
> John Tyler
>
> 
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>>
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:49 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
> Thanks Joe I’ll check out Grainger
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> > On Jun 13, 2020, at 3:18 PM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> >
> > If I remember correctly, the same motor Legacy used can be gotten from
> WE Grainger... the bracket you will have to make yourself... the limit
> switches can probably also be gotten from Grainger... and you can put
> together the speed control switch and override switch in a box, all should
> be available from Grainger ... Joe B.
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RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

[bulkeley]

I don’t know anything about stepper motors aren’t they high speed rpm or can 
they run slow without torque  loss

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of wkhill99 .
Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 1:12 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Has anyone considered using stepper motors / drivers with their legacy, like a 
nema-23 or 34?

 

Wes

 

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 7:09 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Legacys exact  motor was a dayton 4Z131B 90volt dc motor

Bill

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mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 9:58 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Thanks for the clarification, John.  I very much appreciate the follow-up!  

John Tyler


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of John Hennen 
mailto:john.hen...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 3:32 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Grainge stopped making the speed control in 2005. The DC motor we used ended in 
2008.

I recommended a Dzc motor with a 5/8 shaft. But you may have forgotten that.  
The speed control you will need to fit the motor.


On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:18 PM JOHNNY L TYLER mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com>  >> wrote:
Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no longer 
makes/supplies the motor or limit switches.  More discouraging was the news 
that he has no other sources to recommend to me/us.  Dead end there!  Looks 
like Bill is the resident expert on do-it-yourself drive motors!

John Tyler


From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
 >>
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
 >
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Thanks Joe I’ll check out Grainger

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Jun 13, 2020, at 3:18 PM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>   
>   >> wrote:
>
> If I remember correctly, the same motor Legacy used can be gotten from WE 
> Grainger... the bracket you will have to make yourself... the limit switches 
> can probably also be gotten from Grainger... and you can put together the 
> speed control switch and override switch in a box, all should be available 
> from Grainger ... Joe B.
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RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

[bulkeley]

Yes I have seen them for 5 or $600

 

Bill

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Friday, 19 June 2020 8:01 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

I was wondering that myself.

Also found one of the Legacy/Grainger motors used says good condition wants 
$160 plus $25 shipping. Is that a good price? Anyone?

Sent from Denson's iPhone





On Jun 18, 2020, at 4:33 PM, wkhill99 . mailto:wkhil...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Has anyone considered using stepper motors / drivers with their legacy, like a 
nema-23 or 34?

 

Wes

 

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 7:09 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Legacys exact  motor was a dayton 4Z131B 90volt dc motor

Bill

-Original Message-
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 9:58 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Thanks for the clarification, John.  I very much appreciate the follow-up!  

John Tyler


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of John Hennen 
mailto:john.hen...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 3:32 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Grainge stopped making the speed control in 2005. The DC motor we used ended in 
2008.

I recommended a Dzc motor with a 5/8 shaft. But you may have forgotten that.  
The speed control you will need to fit the motor.


On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:18 PM JOHNNY L TYLER mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com>  >> wrote:
Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no longer 
makes/supplies the motor or limit switches.  More discouraging was the news 
that he has no other sources to recommend to me/us.  Dead end there!  Looks 
like Bill is the resident expert on do-it-yourself drive motors!

John Tyler


From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
 >>
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
 >
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Thanks Joe I’ll check out Grainger

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Jun 13, 2020, at 3:18 PM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>   
>   >> wrote:
>
> If I remember correctly, the same motor Legacy used can be gotten from WE 
> Grainger... the bracket you will have to make yourself... the limit switches 
> can probably also be gotten from Grainger... and you can put together the 
> speed control switch and override switch in a box, all should be available 
> from Grainger ... Joe B.
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trouble

[bulkeley]

Just letting you all know it looks like I'm off line for a while my email is
not receiving I haven't had a email in 2 days will let you all know when it
working again sorry for not answer any posts

 

Bill

 



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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

['Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

I was wondering that myself.
Also found one of the Legacy/Grainger motors used says good condition wants 
$160 plus $25 shipping. Is that a good price? Anyone?

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Jun 18, 2020, at 4:33 PM, wkhill99 .  wrote:
> 
> 
> Has anyone considered using stepper motors / drivers with their legacy, like 
> a nema-23 or 34?
> 
> Wes
> 
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 7:09 PM  wrote:
>> Legacys exact  motor was a dayton 4Z131B 90volt dc motor
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
>> Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 9:58 AM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>> 
>> Thanks for the clarification, John.  I very much appreciate the follow-up!  
>> 
>> John Tyler
>> 
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  on behalf of John Hennen 
>> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 3:32 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>> 
>> Grainge stopped making the speed control in 2005. The DC motor we used ended 
>> in 2008.
>> 
>> I recommended a Dzc motor with a 5/8 shaft. But you may have forgotten that. 
>>  The speed control you will need to fit the motor.
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:18 PM JOHNNY L TYLER 
>> mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com>> wrote:
>> Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no longer 
>> makes/supplies the motor or limit switches.  More discouraging was the news 
>> that he has no other sources to recommend to me/us.  Dead end there!  Looks 
>> like Bill is the resident expert on do-it-yourself drive motors!
>> 
>> John Tyler
>> 
>> 
>> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:49 PM
>> To: 
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>> 
>> Thanks Joe I’ll check out Grainger
>> 
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>> 
>> > On Jun 13, 2020, at 3:18 PM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> > mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>>
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > If I remember correctly, the same motor Legacy used can be gotten from WE 
>> > Grainger... the bracket you will have to make yourself... the limit 
>> > switches can probably also be gotten from Grainger... and you can put 
>> > together the speed control switch and override switch in a box, all should 
>> > be available from Grainger ... Joe B.
>> >
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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[wkhill99 .]

Has anyone considered using stepper motors / drivers with their
legacy, like a nema-23 or 34?

Wes

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 7:09 PM  wrote:

> Legacys exact  motor was a dayton 4Z131B 90volt dc motor
>
> Bill
>
> -Original Message-
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 9:58 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
> Thanks for the clarification, John.  I very much appreciate the
> follow-up!
>
> John Tyler
>
> 
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> on behalf of John Hennen <
> john.hen...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 3:32 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
> Grainge stopped making the speed control in 2005. The DC motor we used
> ended in 2008.
>
> I recommended a Dzc motor with a 5/8 shaft. But you may have forgotten
> that.  The speed control you will need to fit the motor.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:18 PM JOHNNY L TYLER  cloudanc...@msn.com>> wrote:
> Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no longer
> makes/supplies the motor or limit switches.  More discouraging was the news
> that he has no other sources to recommend to me/us.  Dead end there!  Looks
> like Bill is the resident expert on do-it-yourself drive motors!
>
> John Tyler
>
> 
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>>
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:49 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
> Thanks Joe I’ll check out Grainger
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> > On Jun 13, 2020, at 3:18 PM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> >
> > If I remember correctly, the same motor Legacy used can be gotten from
> WE Grainger... the bracket you will have to make yourself... the limit
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RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

[artmarbles]

Hi Arkady,

 

Print out the attached pdf file using the “Print Actual Size” setting and see 
if it will work for you

 

I made this file by using cad data from Grainger and modified my 4Z128 motor 
mount. I have not verified any of the dimensions and it should only work on the 
Model 900 that has bronze bushing on the leadscrew.  If you have roller 
bearings on the leadscrew, it might not work.  I don’t have those dimensions.

 

Please let me know if this works for you.

 

-Tim

 

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 On Behalf Of Arkady Paka
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:17 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Hello everybody.

I have dayton 4Z131B 90 volt dc motor but can't find bracket blueprint to mount 
it to my LOM 900.

Anybody can help? Maybe some pics?

Arkady from Ukraine.

 

 

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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[Arkady Paka]

Hello Curt. Please give me pics.

чт, 18 июн. 2020 г., 16:36 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>:

> Hello Arkady
>
> On my 1000ex the end cap, on the Legacy has the bolt pattern cut into it.
> The motor was to be a straight line coupling to the acme screw and bolt
> into/on the end plate of the machine.
> If you like I can take a photo latter? But it was a simple hole pattern
> one large hole for the acme screw To run through, and 4 smaller ones for
> the bolts to mount the motor.
>
> C.A.G.
> On Thursday, June 18, 2020, 04:17:22 AM EDT, Arkady Paka <
> arkadyp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello everybody.
> I have dayton 4Z131B 90 volt dc motor but can't find bracket blueprint to
> mount it to my LOM 900.
> Anybody can help? Maybe some pics?
> Arkady from Ukraine.
>
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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hello Arkady
On my 1000ex the end cap, on the Legacy has the bolt pattern cut into it. The 
motor was to be a straight line coupling to the acme screw and bolt into/on the 
end plate of the machine.If you like I can take a photo latter? But it was a 
simple hole pattern one large hole for the acme screw To run through, and 4 
smaller ones for the bolts to mount the motor.
C.A.G.On Thursday, June 18, 2020, 04:17:22 AM EDT, Arkady Paka 
 wrote:  
 
 Hello everybody.I have dayton 4Z131B 90 volt dc motor but can't find bracket 
blueprint to mount it to my LOM 900.Anybody can help? Maybe some pics?Arkady 
from Ukraine.






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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[Arkady Paka]

Hello everybody.
I have dayton 4Z131B 90 volt dc motor but can't find bracket blueprint to
mount it to my LOM 900.
Anybody can help? Maybe some pics?
Arkady from Ukraine.


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