RE: ribbon wave

[bulkeley]

Ok mac thanks I’m not use to all this praise lol. Now I wish I had have got 
more of the wood when I did it came from somewhere in the outback. I was only 
there one night.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 1:12 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ribbon wave

 

Bill,

 

It is "ART"!  NOT firewood!!

What a BEAUTIFUL piece of wood!

If you ever have a chance  round some me up,  I suggest that you jump on it!!!

I can assure  - there IS a "buyer" for your "art" out there!

You will find her/him - be patient.

 

Mac

  _  

  _  

 

-Original Message- 
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au   
Sent: Apr 11, 2021 5:14 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
Subject: RE: ribbon wave 




It’s the other piece of the unknown wood I used on the ribbon twist spiral 
sorry.

 

And the sheld no I need a 100 percent sheld I have a dust allergy without a 
mask on I coff and snezz really bad that’s why I don’t talk on my videos I 
can’t, after I have to sit by the air purifier for quiet a while.

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 12:30 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: ribbon wave

 

Beautiful wood Bill, what kind is it?

 

I think that Wavy Ribbon twist is pretty neat.

I would Chalk it up as, ART and learning experience. 

I enjoyed watching your video. Thank you.

 

One question.  You use a Plexiglas shield on your REVO, Have you though of 
trying window screen? I don't know how it would work for photographing but I 
have found it works better then I had expected, the air goes through but the 
chips just fall down.

 

Have a good day.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, April 11, 2021, 04:57:22 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
  mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://youtu.be/HTUtQKJQroo

 

well I did what was suppose to be a ribbon wave I used the smallest g gear and 
the widest wave the attachment will do and it turned out terrible nothing at 
all like a wavy ribbon at all lol. so I either made art or firewood I’m going 
with firewood I don’t like it at all but even so I did a quick video to show 
what not to do to make a ribbon wave. 

 

Bill

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RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[bulkeley]

Great job tim yes I saw looks like a 1 inch round over bit what was the 
indexing ¼ turn of the handle ? it doesn’t look like it was done with a index 
plate 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 12:44 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

Ok so I had a huge achievement by using some of the applications suggested. 

I am still not perfect but I think a couple more tweeks and I can get it to fit 
within

my expectations or very close. 

I cut a new piece found the center, drilled a 1/4 hole part way in. using a 
dowel 

pin and double back tape I just attached it to the table. 

Also recentered my table with rails which should not really affect it but did 
anyway.

Then I drew cross marks on the face same as the back and centered the bit to 
that.

it got very close but will make a center point with a 1/2 drill bit or 
something and 

bring it to a point for my dead center. 

So I believe with all the suggestions and me going out thinking like I was a 
tooling tech

I think I have reached or will have once I make the centering pin, I should be 
set to 

have great repeatability. 

I will add some of the pix. Bill one for you with the bit laying in the middle 
of the part.

keep in mind only cedar again and little wood framentation. 

then when all profiled I went around it with a straight bit. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 5:22 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I don’t centre it I mill it centre even double tape a piece of aluminium to the 
rotary table to scratch with the pointer as it goes around the middle if you 
want to be really fussy finding centre but you can be 10 or 15 thou out and no 
one but you will notice lol 😊

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 7:57 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

yup but centering the block is the big issue i believe. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:33 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Rotating the table with a pointer in the router you will soon find centre 

 

Bill

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 1:30 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

HI Tim

 

I have found the easiest way for me, is to use the "drill center hole" idea.  
Then use a pointer mounted in the router of the Legacy. and align the table and 
the router, then you can use that for your 0 mark/ reference point, Once this 
table and Router are aligned you can touch off any know point, to take you 
measurements from.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 11:13:34 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com 
  mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,

I have a question and I want some serious input

here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career

I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with

that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter

tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.

Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and

lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines 

Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered

boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not

have too. I also find the center of my work piece and center

the bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering but

some how I am not always hitting the center. 

Yes I have a square work piece. 

What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD center. 

Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?

Usually you don't realize your out of center until you go around it 

with a bit especially if you are doing a sunburst or something. 

Lets dig up some good suggestions I need repeatability not hit

and miss. 

Thanks

 

 

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RE: ribbon wave

[bulkeley]

You are always welcome Tim, I like the woodwork community overseas so much 
better than here

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 12:32 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ribbon wave

 

yes and thanks again for sharing I learn something everytime I watch one of 
your videos.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 5:33 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

To tell the truth I almost didn’t post a video on this one that’s why its so 
short and unclear I only kept it because my daughter liked and wanted it or a 
wouldn’t have even polished it. This will be the one and only one of these I 
will ever make lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 8:01 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: ribbon wave

 

Well it's pretty cool non the less and its a whole lot 

more then I've done on my LOM today. lol time to play.

Thanks for making the video again too. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:14 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

It’s the other piece of the unknown wood I used on the ribbon twist spiral 
sorry.

 

And the sheld no I need a 100 percent sheld I have a dust allergy without a 
mask on I coff and snezz really bad that’s why I don’t talk on my videos I 
can’t, after I have to sit by the air purifier for quiet a while.

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 12:30 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: ribbon wave

 

Beautiful wood Bill, what kind is it?

 

I think that Wavy Ribbon twist is pretty neat.

I would Chalk it up as, ART and learning experience. 

I enjoyed watching your video. Thank you.

 

One question.  You use a Plexiglas shield on your REVO, Have you though of 
trying window screen? I don't know how it would work for photographing but I 
have found it works better then I had expected, the air goes through but the 
chips just fall down.

 

Have a good day.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, April 11, 2021, 04:57:22 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
  mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://youtu.be/HTUtQKJQroo

 

well I did what was suppose to be a ribbon wave I used the smallest g gear and 
the widest wave the attachment will do and it turned out terrible nothing at 
all like a wavy ribbon at all lol. so I either made art or firewood I’m going 
with firewood I don’t like it at all but even so I did a quick video to show 
what not to do to make a ribbon wave. 

 

Bill

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RE: ribbon wave

[M.W.Foscue]

Bill,It is "ART"!  NOT firewood!!What a BEAUTIFUL piece of wood!If you ever have a chance  round some me up,  I suggest that you jump on it!!!I can assure  - there IS a "buyer" for your "art" out there!You will find her/him - be patient.Mac-Original Message-
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
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To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ribbon wave

It’s the other piece of the unknown wood I used on the ribbon twist spiral sorry. And the sheld no I need a 100 percent sheld I have a dust allergy without a mask on I coff and snezz really bad that’s why I don’t talk on my videos I can’t, after I have to sit by the air purifier for quiet a while. Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 12:30 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: ribbon wave Beautiful wood Bill, what kind is it? I think that Wavy Ribbon twist is pretty neat.I would Chalk it up as, ART and learning experience. I enjoyed watching your video. Thank you. One question.  You use a Plexiglas shield on your REVO, Have you though of trying window screen? I don't know how it would work for photographing but I have found it works better then I had expected, the air goes through but the chips just fall down. Have a good day. C.A.G. On Sunday, April 11, 2021, 04:57:22 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au  wrote:   https://youtu.be/HTUtQKJQroo well I did what was suppose to be a ribbon wave I used the smallest g gear and the widest wave the attachment will do and it turned out terrible nothing at all like a wavy ribbon at all lol. so I either made art or firewood I’m going with firewood I don’t like it at all but even so I did a quick video to show what not to do to make a ribbon wave.  Bill-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/001801d72eb0%24a8e460a0%24faad21e0%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/206572410.426692.1618151425847%40mail.yahoo.com.



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Re: ribbon wave

[Tim Ziegler]

yes and thanks again for sharing I learn something everytime I watch one of
your videos.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 5:33 PM  wrote:

> To tell the truth I almost didn’t post a video on this one that’s why its
> so short and unclear I only kept it because my daughter liked and wanted it
> or a wouldn’t have even polished it. This will be the one and only one of
> these I will ever make lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 12 April 2021 8:01 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ribbon wave
>
>
>
> Well it's pretty cool non the less and its a whole lot
>
> more then I've done on my LOM today. lol time to play.
>
> Thanks for making the video again too.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:14 PM  wrote:
>
> It’s the other piece of the unknown wood I used on the ribbon twist spiral
> sorry.
>
>
>
> And the sheld no I need a 100 percent sheld I have a dust allergy without
> a mask on I coff and snezz really bad that’s why I don’t talk on my videos
> I can’t, after I have to sit by the air purifier for quiet a while.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, 12 April 2021 12:30 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ribbon wave
>
>
>
> Beautiful wood Bill, what kind is it?
>
>
>
> I think that Wavy Ribbon twist is pretty neat.
>
> I would Chalk it up as, ART and learning experience.
>
> I enjoyed watching your video. Thank you.
>
>
>
> One question.  You use a Plexiglas shield on your REVO, Have you though of
> trying window screen? I don't know how it would work for photographing but
> I have found it works better then I had expected, the air goes through but
> the chips just fall down.
>
>
>
> Have a good day.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, April 11, 2021, 04:57:22 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/HTUtQKJQroo
>
>
>
> well I did what was suppose to be a ribbon wave I used the smallest g gear
> and the widest wave the attachment will do and it turned out terrible
> nothing at all like a wavy ribbon at all lol. so I either made art or
> firewood I’m going with firewood I don’t like it at all but even so I did a
> quick video to show what not to do to make a ribbon wave.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
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RE: The Mother Load Update

[wm.o.henry]

Tracy,

 

I’m interested in the motor and limit switches, .25x gear set, horizontal vice, 
thin stock support, circle cutting center, and rotary table and shaft. I think 
that comes to $795? Figure up the cost of shipping to Baltimore MD 21227 and we 
can work out payment. 

 

Bill Henry 

Baltimore

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tracy Smith
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 8:40 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: The Mother Load Update

 

Hello all,

 

Sorry for my late update. A couple weeks ago, the guy that has been really 
interested in owning a LOM for some time was able to meet with me and pick what 
he wanted. He came over with his dad on a Saturday morning. We spent nearly 4 
hours together. We went over all the features of each machine: Model 1500, 
Model 2000 and the Model 1200 with the Performance CNC Upgrade. We made a 
simple 12" three start rope twist on each.

 

After all that, he decided on the Model 2000. However, he really wanted the 
Z-axis upgrade that was on the 1500. So we moved the Z-axis upgrade onto the 
Model 2000 and he bought nearly every accessory that I had and several bits.

 

I've attached a picture of the machine all loaded up and headed to its new 
home.  He drove over 3.5 hours one way so it was a very long day for him and 
his dad. 

 

I've shared with him this group as well as many of the other online resources 
available. Hopefully we'll see him join this group soon when he starts playing 
with it. His name is Chad.

 

So that means I still have the Model 1200 with the CNC upgrade and the model 
1500.

Regarding accessories, I have the following:

- Rotary Table

- Rotary Table Shaft

- Horizontal Vise

- Thin stock support

- Circle Cutting Center

- .25 Reduction Gear set

- 2X Duplex Gear set

- Porter Cable 3 1/4 HP plunge router

- Eliminator Chuck

- Right Hand directional assembly

 

With the discussion from this group over the last few months, I wonder if it 
would make sense to part out the 1500? I know I acquired so many LOMs because 
of my concern for parts. I would really like to see the rotary table and shaft 
go with the CNC as I always had plans to create some cool stuff with that. I 
have someone interested in the CNC so I'll wait to see what happens there 
before offering the rotary table and shaft.

 

With that said, if I parted out the 1500, the following parts would be 
available:

- Motor and limit switches

- Full driver gear set

- The rails and parts from the frame of the machine (rails, locking collars, 
double locking collar, tons of fasteners unique to the LOM, etc.)

- The accessories mentioned above

 

If anyone has serious interest in any of the parts above, please reach out to 
me. Regarding pricing, this is how I would price each part:

- Motor and limit switches: $400

- .25X gear set: $100

- 2X gear set: $100

- Full set of drive gears: $85

- Horizontal Vise: $50

- Thin Stock Support: $25

- Circle Cutting Center: $20

- Eliminator Chuck: $40

- Rotary Table and Shaft: $200

- Right Hand directional assembly: $35

- Router: $150

- Rails, Frame, and other parts: $TBD but I will be very reasonable

 

Shipping would be additional cost. I don't mind the extra work for shipping so 
I will only pass on the shipping cost.

 

Regards,

Tracy

 

 

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RE: The Mother Load Update

[bulkeley]

Smart man buying as many accessories as possible if your selling any of the 
accessories may I have the Rotary Table Shaft 

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of Tracy Smith
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 10:40 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: The Mother Load Update

 

Hello all,

 

Sorry for my late update. A couple weeks ago, the guy that has been really 
interested in owning a LOM for some time was able to meet with me and pick what 
he wanted. He came over with his dad on a Saturday morning. We spent nearly 4 
hours together. We went over all the features of each machine: Model 1500, 
Model 2000 and the Model 1200 with the Performance CNC Upgrade. We made a 
simple 12" three start rope twist on each.

 

After all that, he decided on the Model 2000. However, he really wanted the 
Z-axis upgrade that was on the 1500. So we moved the Z-axis upgrade onto the 
Model 2000 and he bought nearly every accessory that I had and several bits.

 

I've attached a picture of the machine all loaded up and headed to its new 
home.  He drove over 3.5 hours one way so it was a very long day for him and 
his dad. 

 

I've shared with him this group as well as many of the other online resources 
available. Hopefully we'll see him join this group soon when he starts playing 
with it. His name is Chad.

 

So that means I still have the Model 1200 with the CNC upgrade and the model 
1500.

Regarding accessories, I have the following:

- Rotary Table

- Rotary Table Shaft

- Horizontal Vise

- Thin stock support

- Circle Cutting Center

- .25 Reduction Gear set

- 2X Duplex Gear set

- Porter Cable 3 1/4 HP plunge router

- Eliminator Chuck

- Right Hand directional assembly

 

With the discussion from this group over the last few months, I wonder if it 
would make sense to part out the 1500? I know I acquired so many LOMs because 
of my concern for parts. I would really like to see the rotary table and shaft 
go with the CNC as I always had plans to create some cool stuff with that. I 
have someone interested in the CNC so I'll wait to see what happens there 
before offering the rotary table and shaft.

 

With that said, if I parted out the 1500, the following parts would be 
available:

- Motor and limit switches

- Full driver gear set

- The rails and parts from the frame of the machine (rails, locking collars, 
double locking collar, tons of fasteners unique to the LOM, etc.)

- The accessories mentioned above

 

If anyone has serious interest in any of the parts above, please reach out to 
me. Regarding pricing, this is how I would price each part:

- Motor and limit switches: $400

- .25X gear set: $100

- 2X gear set: $100

- Full set of drive gears: $85

- Horizontal Vise: $50

- Thin Stock Support: $25

- Circle Cutting Center: $20

- Eliminator Chuck: $40

- Rotary Table and Shaft: $200

- Right Hand directional assembly: $35

- Router: $150

- Rails, Frame, and other parts: $TBD but I will be very reasonable

 

Shipping would be additional cost. I don't mind the extra work for shipping so 
I will only pass on the shipping cost.

 

Regards,

Tracy

 

 

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RE: ribbon wave

[bulkeley]

To tell the truth I almost didn’t post a video on this one that’s why its so 
short and unclear I only kept it because my daughter liked and wanted it or a 
wouldn’t have even polished it. This will be the one and only one of these I 
will ever make lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 8:01 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ribbon wave

 

Well it's pretty cool non the less and its a whole lot 

more then I've done on my LOM today. lol time to play.

Thanks for making the video again too. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:14 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

It’s the other piece of the unknown wood I used on the ribbon twist spiral 
sorry.

 

And the sheld no I need a 100 percent sheld I have a dust allergy without a 
mask on I coff and snezz really bad that’s why I don’t talk on my videos I 
can’t, after I have to sit by the air purifier for quiet a while.

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 12:30 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: ribbon wave

 

Beautiful wood Bill, what kind is it?

 

I think that Wavy Ribbon twist is pretty neat.

I would Chalk it up as, ART and learning experience. 

I enjoyed watching your video. Thank you.

 

One question.  You use a Plexiglas shield on your REVO, Have you though of 
trying window screen? I don't know how it would work for photographing but I 
have found it works better then I had expected, the air goes through but the 
chips just fall down.

 

Have a good day.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, April 11, 2021, 04:57:22 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
  mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://youtu.be/HTUtQKJQroo

 

well I did what was suppose to be a ribbon wave I used the smallest g gear and 
the widest wave the attachment will do and it turned out terrible nothing at 
all like a wavy ribbon at all lol. so I either made art or firewood I’m going 
with firewood I don’t like it at all but even so I did a quick video to show 
what not to do to make a ribbon wave. 

 

Bill

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RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[bulkeley]

I don’t centre it I mill it centre even double tape a piece of aluminium to the 
rotary table to scratch with the pointer as it goes around the middle if you 
want to be really fussy finding centre but you can be 10 or 15 thou out and no 
one but you will notice lol 😊

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 7:57 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

yup but centering the block is the big issue i believe. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:33 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Rotating the table with a pointer in the router you will soon find centre 

 

Bill

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 1:30 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

HI Tim

 

I have found the easiest way for me, is to use the "drill center hole" idea.  
Then use a pointer mounted in the router of the Legacy. and align the table and 
the router, then you can use that for your 0 mark/ reference point, Once this 
table and Router are aligned you can touch off any know point, to take you 
measurements from.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 11:13:34 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com 
  mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,

I have a question and I want some serious input

here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career

I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with

that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter

tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.

Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and

lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines 

Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered

boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not

have too. I also find the center of my work piece and center

the bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering but

some how I am not always hitting the center. 

Yes I have a square work piece. 

What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD center. 

Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?

Usually you don't realize your out of center until you go around it 

with a bit especially if you are doing a sunburst or something. 

Lets dig up some good suggestions I need repeatability not hit

and miss. 

Thanks

 

 

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RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

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I use to machine metal back in the day with 1 ten thousands of an inch 
tolerance at times that’s one thousandth divided into 10 so I know your pain

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 7:57 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

Thanks Bill,

 

Yes perfection is my middle name and causes a lot 

of un-needed frustration sometimes. thanks I will have 

to test your method. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:28 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I put an oversize piece on the table set as close to centre as I can and then 
mill it square, mill down one side and rotate 90 degrees and repeat on the 
other sides and your piece is perfectly square to the middle and ready to mill 
the rosette.

If you have multiple ones to do after its square trace a line around the 
outside and set the router bit to it move a saddle back stick the next oversize 
one on and repeat milling it square. To find the dead middle I have a half inch 
pointed centre I put in the router to line up dead center in the middle then 
set stops. Hope that helps you all this is if you want it perfect.

 

Bill

 

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mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
timjz...@gmail.com  
Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 1:14 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,

I have a question and I want some serious input

here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career

I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with

that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter

tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.

Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and

lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines 

Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered

boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not

have too. I also find the center of my work piece and center

the bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering but

some how I am not always hitting the center. 

Yes I have a square work piece. 

What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD center. 

Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?

Usually you don't realize your out of center until you go around it 

with a bit especially if you are doing a sunburst or something. 

Lets dig up some good suggestions I need repeatability not hit

and miss. 

Thanks

 

 

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Re: ribbon wave

[Tim Ziegler]

Well it's pretty cool non the less and its a whole lot
more then I've done on my LOM today. lol time to play.
Thanks for making the video again too.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:14 PM  wrote:

> It’s the other piece of the unknown wood I used on the ribbon twist spiral
> sorry.
>
>
>
> And the sheld no I need a 100 percent sheld I have a dust allergy without
> a mask on I coff and snezz really bad that’s why I don’t talk on my videos
> I can’t, after I have to sit by the air purifier for quiet a while.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, 12 April 2021 12:30 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: ribbon wave
>
>
>
> Beautiful wood Bill, what kind is it?
>
>
>
> I think that Wavy Ribbon twist is pretty neat.
>
> I would Chalk it up as, ART and learning experience.
>
> I enjoyed watching your video. Thank you.
>
>
>
> One question.  You use a Plexiglas shield on your REVO, Have you though of
> trying window screen? I don't know how it would work for photographing but
> I have found it works better then I had expected, the air goes through but
> the chips just fall down.
>
>
>
> Have a good day.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, April 11, 2021, 04:57:22 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/HTUtQKJQroo
>
>
>
> well I did what was suppose to be a ribbon wave I used the smallest g gear
> and the widest wave the attachment will do and it turned out terrible
> nothing at all like a wavy ribbon at all lol. so I either made art or
> firewood I’m going with firewood I don’t like it at all but even so I did a
> quick video to show what not to do to make a ribbon wave.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
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Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[Tim Ziegler]

yup but centering the block is the big issue i believe.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:33 AM  wrote:

> Rotating the table with a pointer in the router you will soon find centre
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, 11 April 2021 1:30 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> HI Tim
>
>
>
> I have found the easiest way for me, is to use the "drill center hole"
> idea.  Then use a pointer mounted in the router of the Legacy. and align
> the table and the router, then you can use that for your 0 mark/ reference
> point, Once this table and Router are aligned you can touch off any know
> point, to take you measurements from.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 11:13:34 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,
>
> I have a question and I want some serious input
>
> here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career
>
> I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with
>
> that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter
>
> tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.
>
> Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and
>
> lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines
>
> Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered
>
> boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not
>
> have too. I also find the center of my work piece and center
>
> the bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering but
>
> some how I am not always hitting the center.
>
> Yes I have a square work piece.
>
> What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD center.
>
> Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?
>
> Usually you don't realize your out of center until you go around it
>
> with a bit especially if you are doing a sunburst or something.
>
> Lets dig up some good suggestions I need repeatability not hit
>
> and miss.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Bill,

Yes perfection is my middle name and causes a lot
of un-needed frustration sometimes. thanks I will have
to test your method.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:28 AM  wrote:

> I put an oversize piece on the table set as close to centre as I can and
> then mill it square, mill down one side and rotate 90 degrees and repeat on
> the other sides and your piece is perfectly square to the middle and ready
> to mill the rosette.
>
> If you have multiple ones to do after its square trace a line around the
> outside and set the router bit to it move a saddle back stick the next
> oversize one on and repeat milling it square. To find the dead middle I
> have a half inch pointed centre I put in the router to line up dead center
> in the middle then set stops. Hope that helps you all this is if you want
> it perfect.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> timjz...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, 11 April 2021 1:14 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,
>
> I have a question and I want some serious input
>
> here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career
>
> I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with
>
> that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter
>
> tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.
>
> Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and
>
> lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines
>
> Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered
>
> boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not
>
> have too. I also find the center of my work piece and center
>
> the bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering but
>
> some how I am not always hitting the center.
>
> Yes I have a square work piece.
>
> What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD center.
>
> Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?
>
> Usually you don't realize your out of center until you go around it
>
> with a bit especially if you are doing a sunburst or something.
>
> Lets dig up some good suggestions I need repeatability not hit
>
> and miss.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Richard,

I will have to do some experimenting and try that.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 3:54 AM Richard Ellis 
wrote:

> What I did, was to drill a hole dead center of the table and have a rod
> about 8 inches long with a point at one end and a knob at the other end.The
> rod a nice tight fit.  and also to make
>  sure it did not slip I glued a rare earth magnet under the table. That
> just touched the rod
> The bit of wood had a small indent underneath . Now when I used hot melt
> glue,the rod protruding above the table I did not have to worry about where
> the wood will slide to. The resistance of the magnet will keep it in place
>
> On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 4:46:55 AM UTC+1 Va Oak wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>> I think what Curtis is pointing out is:
>> You may have marked DEAD Center on the Rotary Table - BUT, if you don't
>> have that point *perfectly* in line with the center line of the LOM,
>> when you start milling (cutting rosettes), that slight misalignment will
>> make itself known to you quickly.
>> Be Safe & do Good!
>> Mac
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Apr 10, 2021 11:38 PM
>> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>>
>> Thanks Curt,
>>
>> Ok that all sounds good then finding the center to start your rosette is
>> the challenge.
>> I even started with center lines and set the bit in the exact dead center
>> so I thought. h.
>> better sleep on it. lol its getting late here.
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> --
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 10:30 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
>> Mills  wrote:
>>
>>> HI Tim
>>>
>>> I have found the easiest way for me, is to use the "drill center hole"
>>> idea.  Then use a pointer mounted in the router of the Legacy. and align
>>> the table and the router, then you can use that for your 0 mark/ reference
>>> point, Once this table and Router are aligned you can touch off any know
>>> point, to take you measurements from.
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>> --
>>> On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 11:13:34 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com <
>>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,
>>> I have a question and I want some serious input
>>> here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career
>>> I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with
>>> that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter
>>> tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.
>>> Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and
>>> lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines
>>> Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered
>>> boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not
>>> have too. I also find the center of my work piece and center
>>> the bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering but
>>> some how I am not always hitting the center.
>>> Yes I have a square work piece.
>>> What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD center.
>>> Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?
>>> Usually you don't realize your out of center until you go around it
>>> with a bit especially if you are doing a sunburst or something.
>>> Lets dig up some good suggestions I need repeatability not hit
>>> and miss.
>>> Thanks
>>>
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Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Mac,
Yup. and thats what I'm trying to come up with a solution to hit dead
center with out
all the fiddling around?
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 10:46 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Tim,
> I think what Curtis is pointing out is:
> You may have marked DEAD Center on the Rotary Table - BUT, if you don't
> have that point *perfectly* in line with the center line of the LOM, when
> you start milling (cutting rosettes), that slight misalignment will make
> itself known to you quickly.
> Be Safe & do Good!
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Apr 10, 2021 11:38 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
> Thanks Curt,
>
> Ok that all sounds good then finding the center to start your rosette is
> the challenge.
> I even started with center lines and set the bit in the exact dead center
> so I thought. h.
> better sleep on it. lol its getting late here.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
>
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 10:30 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
>> HI Tim
>>
>> I have found the easiest way for me, is to use the "drill center hole"
>> idea.  Then use a pointer mounted in the router of the Legacy. and align
>> the table and the router, then you can use that for your 0 mark/ reference
>> point, Once this table and Router are aligned you can touch off any know
>> point, to take you measurements from.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>> --
>> On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 11:13:34 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com <
>> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,
>> I have a question and I want some serious input
>> here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career
>> I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with
>> that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter
>> tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.
>> Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and
>> lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines
>> Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered
>> boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not
>> have too. I also find the center of my work piece and center
>> the bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering but
>> some how I am not always hitting the center.
>> Yes I have a square work piece.
>> What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD center.
>> Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?
>> Usually you don't realize your out of center until you go around it
>> with a bit especially if you are doing a sunburst or something.
>> Lets dig up some good suggestions I need repeatability not hit
>> and miss.
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: ribbon wave

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 OK.
Go out and find some more of that wood then. ;-)
C.A.G.
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It’s the other piece of the unknown wood I used on the ribbon twist spiral 
sorry.

  

And the sheld no I need a 100 percent sheld I have a dust allergy without a 
mask on I coff and snezz really bad that’s why I don’t talk on my videos I 
can’t, after I have to sit by the air purifier for quiet a while.

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 12:30 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ribbon wave

  

Beautiful wood Bill, what kind is it?

  

I think that Wavy Ribbon twist is pretty neat.

I would Chalk it up as, ART and learning experience. 

I enjoyed watching your video. Thank you.

  

One question.  You use a Plexiglas shield on your REVO, Have you though of 
trying window screen? I don't know how it would work for photographing but I 
have found it works better then I had expected, the air goes through but the 
chips just fall down.

  

Have a good day.

  

C.A.G.

  

On Sunday, April 11, 2021, 04:57:22 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
 wrote: 

  

  

https://youtu.be/HTUtQKJQroo

 

well I did what was suppose to be a ribbon wave I used the smallest g gear and 
the widest wave the attachment will do and it turned out terrible nothing at 
all like a wavy ribbon at all lol. so I either made art or firewood I’m going 
with firewood I don’t like it at all but even so I did a quick video to show 
what not to do to make a ribbon wave. 

 

Bill

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RE: ribbon wave

[bulkeley]

It’s the other piece of the unknown wood I used on the ribbon twist spiral 
sorry.

 

And the sheld no I need a 100 percent sheld I have a dust allergy without a 
mask on I coff and snezz really bad that’s why I don’t talk on my videos I 
can’t, after I have to sit by the air purifier for quiet a while.

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 12:30 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ribbon wave

 

Beautiful wood Bill, what kind is it?

 

I think that Wavy Ribbon twist is pretty neat.

I would Chalk it up as, ART and learning experience. 

I enjoyed watching your video. Thank you.

 

One question.  You use a Plexiglas shield on your REVO, Have you though of 
trying window screen? I don't know how it would work for photographing but I 
have found it works better then I had expected, the air goes through but the 
chips just fall down.

 

Have a good day.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, April 11, 2021, 04:57:22 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
  mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://youtu.be/HTUtQKJQroo

 

well I did what was suppose to be a ribbon wave I used the smallest g gear and 
the widest wave the attachment will do and it turned out terrible nothing at 
all like a wavy ribbon at all lol. so I either made art or firewood I’m going 
with firewood I don’t like it at all but even so I did a quick video to show 
what not to do to make a ribbon wave. 

 

Bill

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Re: ribbon wave

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Beautiful wood Bill, what kind is it?
I think that Wavy Ribbon twist is pretty neat.I would Chalk it up as, ART and 
learning experience. I enjoyed watching your video. Thank you.
One question.  You use a Plexiglas shield on your REVO, Have you though of 
trying window screen? I don't know how it would work for photographing but I 
have found it works better then I had expected, the air goes through but the 
chips just fall down.
Have a good day.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, April 11, 2021, 04:57:22 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
 wrote:  
 
 
https://youtu.be/HTUtQKJQroo

  

well I did what was suppose to be a ribbon wave I used the smallest g gear and 
the widest wave the attachment will do and it turned out terrible nothing at 
all like a wavy ribbon at all lol. so I either made art or firewood I’m going 
with firewood I don’t like it at all but even so I did a quick video to show 
what not to do to make a ribbon wave. 

  

Bill
 

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RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[bulkeley]

Rotating the table with a pointer in the router you will soon find centre 

 

Bill

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 1:30 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

HI Tim

 

I have found the easiest way for me, is to use the "drill center hole" idea.  
Then use a pointer mounted in the router of the Legacy. and align the table and 
the router, then you can use that for your 0 mark/ reference point, Once this 
table and Router are aligned you can touch off any know point, to take you 
measurements from.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 11:13:34 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com 
  mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,

I have a question and I want some serious input

here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career

I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with

that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter

tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.

Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and

lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines 

Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered

boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not

have too. I also find the center of my work piece and center

the bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering but

some how I am not always hitting the center. 

Yes I have a square work piece. 

What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD center. 

Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?

Usually you don't realize your out of center until you go around it 

with a bit especially if you are doing a sunburst or something. 

Lets dig up some good suggestions I need repeatability not hit

and miss. 

Thanks

 

 

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RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[bulkeley]

I put an oversize piece on the table set as close to centre as I can and then 
mill it square, mill down one side and rotate 90 degrees and repeat on the 
other sides and your piece is perfectly square to the middle and ready to mill 
the rosette.

If you have multiple ones to do after its square trace a line around the 
outside and set the router bit to it move a saddle back stick the next oversize 
one on and repeat milling it square. To find the dead middle I have a half inch 
pointed centre I put in the router to line up dead center in the middle then 
set stops. Hope that helps you all this is if you want it perfect.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of timjz...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 1:14 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,

I have a question and I want some serious input

here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career

I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with

that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter

tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.

Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and

lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines 

Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered

boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not

have too. I also find the center of my work piece and center

the bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering but

some how I am not always hitting the center. 

Yes I have a square work piece. 

What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD center. 

Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?

Usually you don't realize your out of center until you go around it 

with a bit especially if you are doing a sunburst or something. 

Lets dig up some good suggestions I need repeatability not hit

and miss. 

Thanks

 

 

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RE: Resin Ivory turning

[bulkeley]

I agree curt it looks really good

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 12:53 PM
To: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Subject: Re: Resin Ivory turning

 

Here are some pix's 

 

Please let me know what you think. The design is out-side my norm. (I'm not 
sure if I like it or not? BUT It is fancy looking.) 

I plan to do some more work with this Resin-Ivory in the near future. It is fun 
to play with. ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 10:45:01 PM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hello Everyone

Just an up-date of this Resin-Ivory.

 

For the time and money I think this product is a good choice for the Legacy 
user.

It cuts very easily with both HHS and Carbide bits.

Once buffed out it shines and looks like the real thing.  As Mike noted it has 
a grain pattern inside the resin 

(I don't know if it will show up in my photo's but , it is pretty neat to look 
at.)

On Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 11:57:22 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

Thank you both.

 

The resin ivory did not looks like it had any melted areas.

The router bits all cut well, I used both HHS and carbide.

On the Legacy I saw no chips at all, but on the lathe the strings

looked like acrylic, but if you touch them it turns to dust/fine powder.

 

I plan to buff this turning out and see how it touches up. the brochure stated 
it will take finishes

and can be buffed to a shine.  My choice of cuts may make the buffing idea 
limited? but we will see.

 

I have another blank, I have no idea on what I will make out of it. Perhaps 
some wine bottle stoppers?

What I bought was 1" round.

I think the prices are reasonable, until you get to the larger blanks.

Here it the link again.

Check it out for your self's.

 

Have a good night. and 

 

Have a Happy Easer everyone.

 

C.A.G.

 

https://guitarpartsandmore.com/productCategory.php?Resin-Ivory-trade-R-Grade-Round-Stock-151

 

 

 

 


 

 Resin-Ivory™ R Grade 26 mm (1") Rod 6" Length


 

Resin-Ivory™ R Grade Round Stock

26 mm (1") Round by 6 inch length

Click on Photo for info.


  _  


Part #

Price

Purchase



RES.R26mmX6/1107

$ 11.99


  



 



 

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On Saturday, April 3, 2021, 11:35:06 PM EDT, mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Yes it sure does look like ivory nice curt

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Sunday, 4 April 2021 10:33 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Resin Ivory turning

 

Hello Everyone.

 

The Resin Ivory lived up to the hype, This stuff is Neat!

 

It dose not feel the same as the bone turnings that I've been doing. but it 
Looks Great.

The Resin Ivory has a grain and it look like the real thing, to me.

 

The Legacy cuts this stuff like a dream.

On the Lathe it turned like Acrylic.

 

This project ended up being completely different then what I intended to make. 
I used the lathe and planned to add details on it with the Legacy.  

It almost worked! ;-p  (While I was adjusting the indexing, the router slipped 
and cut an area I had not wanted cut. 

 

So I went to plan "B"

First remove the damaged area, and then play it by ear. (add detail where It 
need it .)

 

Here are some photo's. 

Please let me know what you think.

 

C.A.G.

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ribbon wave

[bulkeley]

https://youtu.be/HTUtQKJQroo

 

well I did what was suppose to be a ribbon wave I used the smallest g gear
and the widest wave the attachment will do and it turned out terrible
nothing at all like a wavy ribbon at all lol. so I either made art or
firewood I'm going with firewood I don't like it at all but even so I did a
quick video to show what not to do to make a ribbon wave. 

 

Bill

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Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[Richard Ellis]

What I did, was to drill a hole dead center of the table and have a rod 
about 8 inches long with a point at one end and a knob at the other end.The 
rod a nice tight fit.  and also to make 
 sure it did not slip I glued a rare earth magnet under the table. That 
just touched the rod
The bit of wood had a small indent underneath . Now when I used hot melt 
glue,the rod protruding above the table I did not have to worry about where 
the wood will slide to. The resistance of the magnet will keep it in place 

On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 4:46:55 AM UTC+1 Va Oak wrote:

> Tim,
> I think what Curtis is pointing out is:
> You may have marked DEAD Center on the Rotary Table - BUT, if you don't 
> have that point *perfectly* in line with the center line of the LOM, when 
> you start milling (cutting rosettes), that slight misalignment will make 
> itself known to you quickly.
> Be Safe & do Good!
> Mac
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> -Original Message- 
> From: Tim Ziegler 
> Sent: Apr 10, 2021 11:38 PM 
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table 
>
> Thanks Curt,
>
> Ok that all sounds good then finding the center to start your rosette is 
> the challenge. 
> I even started with center lines and set the bit in the exact dead center 
> so I thought. h. 
> better sleep on it. lol its getting late here. 
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
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> On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 10:30 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
>
>> HI Tim
>>
>> I have found the easiest way for me, is to use the "drill center hole" 
>> idea.  Then use a pointer mounted in the router of the Legacy. and align 
>> the table and the router, then you can use that for your 0 mark/ reference 
>> point, Once this table and Router are aligned you can touch off any know 
>> point, to take you measurements from.
>>
>> C.A.G.
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>> On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 11:13:34 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com <
>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>> Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,
>> I have a question and I want some serious input
>> here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career
>> I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with
>> that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter
>> tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.
>> Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and
>> lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines 
>> Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered
>> boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not
>> have too. I also find the center of my work piece and center
>> the bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering but
>> some how I am not always hitting the center. 
>> Yes I have a square work piece. 
>> What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD center. 
>> Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?
>> Usually you don't realize your out of center until you go around it 
>> with a bit especially if you are doing a sunburst or something. 
>> Lets dig up some good suggestions I need repeatability not hit
>> and miss. 
>> Thanks
>>
>

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