Re: Trying something new (Another bone turning)

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Thank you Eric.
turning bone on and with the Legacy is really a pretty easy job.the only trick 
is processing the bone and making it into a blank for turning.but even that is 
not all that hard to do.On Bill's Web site. 
https://www.youtube.com/@aussiman77181 . You will find a lot of good Legacy 
info. That might help you on your next project.


On His web site We/I have made a 4 part series called bone turning 101.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ7gn-shVYA  (#1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhbGls3taiA     (#2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8SlK-kkVuc      (#3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb7rNcOjB7M   (#4)

In this video series, I cove the hole bone processing methods that I use.
At this time, I have more then a few hundred bone disks, ready to make into 
blanks, So if you are interested in this method of turning.  You will be seeing 
it again in the near future. ;-)
Have a good night.
C.A.G.


On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 10:19:48 AM EDT, Eric Gantner 
 wrote:  
 
 Curt,
Looks Amazing to me.
Eric G. 

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 20, 2023, at 8:37 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:



Hello Everyone.
Today is my day off form work.
(I am doing a side job for a friend, A stacked leather handle for a 
knife.)(More on that latter if you all like?)  
While the glue is drying on one project, I figured it would be a good time to 
trying some more new design, ideas with a new bone handle. I roped form the 
side of the spindle using a 1/4" straight bit. (Note: I turned the shape on the 
200, and then used my 1000ex to rope the flutes.)My original plan was to make a 
12 flutes on a rope pitch form the side of the spindle. (3" pitch) but, On the 
second cut, the part moved/ slipped on the mandrel.So in an attempt to save 
this turning, I tightened the lock nut on the mandrel, And went around a second 
time, making it 24 flutes. Adding 12 more flutes, takes away a lot of detail, 
but I think it will still make a nice gift when done.More later. Have a good 
night everyone.
C.A.G.

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Re: Cherry walking stick

[Eric Gantner]

Mike,That is a great looking piece!Eric G. Sent from my iPadOn Mar 11, 2023, at 10:18 PM, Mike Newman  wrote:After a week long head cold that kept me out of the shop and away from sawdust I was able to work on the LOM.  I made another hard rock maple carving mallet just to practice and then threw the laminated cherry blank I made a few weeks ago up on th mill and worked on it through the day.  I have finished milling and rough sanding so tomorrow I will final sand and maybe put some danish oil on it.  I can feel myself getting better and more comfortable each time.  My question from today is about the stop rings that are on the acme thread for the x axis.  I cannot seem to get them to tighten up enough that they do not slip at some point during the milling.  I think I have them tight but if I jiggle them they seem to pop lose too easy.  I am primarily using the stop blocks that I made that slide into the top of the outer extrusion, but they are not has solid of a stop when I am using the crank index.  Are there any tricks to getting them to stay put?  I am using a pretty heavy duty t-handle but cannot seem to get enough torque.<20230311_210435.jpg>



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Re: Re ShopSmith topic

[Okla Mike (Liltwisted)]

I have modified My Shopsmith so many times it is hard to recognize LOL.  
First I started with replacing the tubes for solid steel bars that are 
32" longer.  I can turn 64" between centers.  That pulled me out of the 
furniture leg business and made all things stairways possible.  I would 
much rather do 40 turnings instead of 4.  This extra length made it 
necessary to control a lot of wobble in the center of a long skinny turn.


My devise has an advantage because you will be able to start out with a 
square hole for your square stock. Then when the rounding is finished 
you will either continue with the pattern or add the next carrier disc 
with a round center and move the roller assembly down to the appropriate 
sized area to match the round disc you chose.


All the discs must have an exact outer dimension with the same race 
area.  That way they will set in centered every time.  I start with the 
hole to fit the project and then hold the center with a 4 jaw chuck and 
turn the outside.  That way you know the orientation of the center hole 
is perfect.


I can't get to the devise at the moment and the computer with the 
pictures is dead.  When I pull out the hard drive I will get my pictures 
back.  But in the meantime, I hope the rough drawing helps.


Mike OK

On 3/21/2023 5:17 PM, Brigitte Graham wrote:

Hello Everyone,
If there's no objection, I'd like to talk to your collective ShopSmith 
heads!!
Have any of you tried the roller bladesaw guides from 
www.carterproducts.com  
(www.carterproducts.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=+shopsmith+bandsaw+guides 
) 
as an upgrade from the solid cool blocks SS are supplied with?

Thanks for your time
Legacy Widow
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Re: Trying something new (Another bone turning)

[Eric Gantner]

Curt,Looks Amazing to me.Eric G. Sent from my iPadOn Mar 20, 2023, at 8:37 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello Everyone.Today is my day off form work.(I am doing a side job for a friend, A stacked leather handle for a knife.)(More on that latter if you all like?)  While the glue is drying on one project, I figured it would be a good time to trying some more new design, ideas with a new bone handle. I roped form the side of the spindle using a 1/4" straight bit. (Note: I turned the shape on the 200, and then used my 1000ex to rope the flutes.)My original plan was to make a 12 flutes on a rope pitch form the side of the spindle. (3" pitch) but, On the second cut, the part moved/ slipped on the mandrel.So in an attempt to save this turning, I tightened the lock nut on the mandrel, And went around a second time, making it 24 flutes. Adding 12 more flutes, takes away a lot of detail, but I think it will still make a nice gift when done.More later. Have a good night everyone.C.A.G.



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Re: Re ShopSmith topic

[M.W.Foscue]

Dan and Bill,
Thank you bothfor your input.
If I were to get 5 woodworkers together and ask a ww-related question, I'd get 
at leats 6 opinions!  LoL!!
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Mar 22, 2023 7:57 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Re ShopSmith topic

I have had ShopSmith bandsaws in my shop as long as I've had a wood shop, which 
amounts to over 50 years, IIRC. Until I got a big bandsaw about 15 years ago 
(which has bearings) the ShopSmith did everything but resaw work.  Now the SS 
does the finer work. Having set the scene, I have no ambition to put bearings 
on the little saw. I wear the teeth off before anything else happens and I 
don't notice the blade getting hot. I've had the current saw some 40 years and 
have yet to change out the blocks.  Set correctly and used gently, they last 
nigh on forever. IMHO bearings on a small saw are over rated, so it's a matter 
of personal preference. It's really hard to imagine how bearings would work on 
a 1/8" bandsaw blade. 
DanK  

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 1:31:59 AM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
Brigitte
 I don’t have a shop smith but I do have the carter blade guide rollers 
on one of my band saws
A very good product much better than the blocks I won’t ever go back. for 
all things bandsaw Alex Snodgrass is the man
Here he is showing you how to set up your roller guides from carter products 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGbZqWac0jU&t=199s&ab_channel=thewoodworkingshows
 
I hope that helps
 
Bill


 
From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Brigitte Graham
Sent: Wednesday, 22 March 2023 9:18 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Subject: Re ShopSmith topic

 
Hello Everyone,

If there's no objection, I'd like to talk to your collective ShopSmith heads!!

Have any of you tried the roller bladesaw guides from www.carterproducts.com 
(http://www.carterproducts.com) 
(www.carterproducts.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=+shopsmith+bandsaw+guides 
(http://www.carterproducts.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=+shopsmith+bandsaw+guides))
  as an upgrade from the solid cool blocks SS are supplied with?

Thanks for your time

Legacy Widow






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Re: Trying something new (Another bone turning)

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hello and Good morning Dan
Yes if the acme screw gets changed the split nut must also be changed. And if 
you have that tap it would be an easy MOD. for the Legacy.I was looking an Mc 
Master-Carr, Web site last 
night.https://www.mcmaster.com/Shellaspx/precision-acme-lead-screws-and-nuts-6/ 
a 5/8x8 acme screw 3' long is $40.00 Now I think that is a pretty good price 
for an experiment (even the 6' acme screw is not a bad price.)  But, I need to 
keep FOCUS on what and why I am doing this.  De-creasing the pitch of the 
Legacy is good for small turnings, but for large spindles it would not be 
anything useful.   Luckily for me, my machines both have rod couplers on the 
acme screw/ends, all that I will need to do is cut the new rod to length and 
install it in the placement of the 5/8x4 original screw. then make a new slip 
nut to fit onto the legacy's bracket.  Very little needs to be changed. and it 
would be an easy MOD to change back if and when needed.I am glad you too like 
this idea.  I think it will work out fine? But for those who do not own a motor 
drive on there Legacy, de-creasing the pitch would also increase the amount of 
cranking that handle to move the carriage.
Now as for me, the Vitric is still not in on this idea. But I am really 
starting to worm up to this idea. It just might be a go for me?
Have a GREAT DAY.
C.A.G.

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 07:45:40 AM EDT, Dan Krager 
 wrote:  
 
 Curt, I am convinced that your idea of doubling the pitch on the lead screw 
will open up a lot of new possibilities and work just fine as long as you 
change out the half nut too.  
Hoo boy.  Now I gotta buy a 5/8 x 8 acme tap!  LOL!DanK

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 1:05:49 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

 Thank you Both Bill and Roger for the nice comments.
I do enjoy working with bone, and there will be more coming soon. 
As a side NOTE: I would like to know your opinion on this idea.
The Legacy was designed to turn large spindles.(mainly furniture at the start. 
) but I am finding that on smallparts the Acme screw and gears are all to much 
for detailed work on Small turnings.I've been playing around with the idea of 
replacing or adding a new acme screw with a finer pitch, on my Legacy 200.Lets 
say If I add a  5/8x8 screw, on this machine, It would reduce all gear pitches 
by 1/2. (So a 3" pitch would become a 1 1/2" pitch, and a 2" pitch would become 
a 1" with a standard gear set, and using the .25 gear set, a 1/2" would become 
1/4" .)
Dose anyone have any thought on this idea?  I am really thinking of trying it 
on my 200, (mainly due the short length/ size of the screw,) It should not be a 
lot of money to buy a small acme screw, and it would not be a hard change over, 
and it would be, easy to re-store the original screw if or when needed.
What do you guys think???
C.A.G.On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 04:14:09 PM EDT, aussiman 
 wrote:  
 
 
A strategic design modification and all is wellagain producing another fine 
handle from the bone master well done curt greatwork

 

 

Bill

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 11:37:21 AM UTC+11 Curt George wrote:

Hello Everyone.
Today is my day off form work.
(I am doing a side job for a friend, A stacked leather handle for a 
knife.)(More on that latter if you all like?)  
While the glue is drying on one project, I figured it would be a good time to 
trying some more new design, ideas with a new bone handle. I roped form the 
side of the spindle using a 1/4" straight bit. (Note: I turned the shape on the 
200, and then used my 1000ex to rope the flutes.)My original plan was to make a 
12 flutes on a rope pitch form the side of the spindle. (3" pitch) but, On the 
second cut, the part moved/ slipped on the mandrel.So in an attempt to save 
this turning, I tightened the lock nut on the mandrel, And went around a second 
time, making it 24 flutes. Adding 12 more flutes, takes away a lot of detail, 
but I think it will still make a nice gift when done.More later. Have a good 
night everyone.
C.A.G.


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Re: Re ShopSmith topic

[Dan Krager]

I have had ShopSmith bandsaws in my shop as long as I've had a wood shop, 
which amounts to over 50 years, IIRC. Until I got a big bandsaw about 15 
years ago (which has bearings) the ShopSmith did everything but resaw 
work.  Now the SS does the finer work. Having set the scene, I have no 
ambition to put bearings on the little saw. I wear the teeth off before 
anything else happens and I don't notice the blade getting hot. I've had 
the current saw some 40 years and have yet to change out the blocks.  Set 
correctly and used gently, they last nigh on forever. IMHO bearings on a 
small saw are over rated, so it's a matter of personal preference. It's 
really hard to imagine how bearings would work on a 1/8" bandsaw blade. 
DanK   

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 1:31:59 AM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:

> Brigitte
>
> I don’t have a shop smith but I do have the carter blade guide rollers on 
> one of my band saws
>
> A very good product much better than the blocks I won’t ever go back. for 
> all things bandsaw Alex Snodgrass is the man
>
> Here he is showing you how to set up your roller guides from carter 
> products 
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGbZqWac0jU&t=199s&ab_channel=thewoodworkingshows
>
>  
>
> I hope that helps
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Brigitte Graham
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 March 2023 9:18 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills 
> *Subject:* Re ShopSmith topic
>
>  
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> If there's no objection, I'd like to talk to your collective ShopSmith 
> heads!!
>
> Have any of you tried the roller bladesaw guides from 
> www.carterproducts.com (
> www.carterproducts.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=+shopsmith+bandsaw+guides)  
> as an upgrade from the solid cool blocks SS are supplied with?
>
> Thanks for your time
>
> Legacy Widow
>
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Re: Trying something new (Another bone turning)

[Dan Krager]

Curt, I am convinced that your idea of doubling the pitch on the lead screw 
will open up a lot of new possibilities and work just fine as long as you 
change out the half nut too.  
Hoo boy.  Now I gotta buy a 5/8 x 8 acme tap!  LOL!
DanK

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 1:05:49 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

> Thank you Both Bill and Roger for the nice comments.
>
> I do enjoy working with bone, and there will be more coming soon. 
>
> *As a side NOTE: I would like to know your opinion on this idea.*
>
> The Legacy was designed to turn large spindles.(mainly furniture at the 
> start. ) but I am finding that on small
> parts the Acme screw and gears are all to much for detailed work on Small 
> turnings.
> I've been playing around with the idea of replacing or adding a new acme 
> screw with a finer pitch, on my Legacy 200.
> Lets say If I add a  5/8x8 screw, on this machine, It would reduce all 
> gear pitches by 1/2. (So a 3" pitch would become a 1 1/2" pitch, and a 2" 
> pitch would become a 1" with a standard gear set, and using the .25 gear 
> set, a 1/2" would become 1/4" .)
>
> Dose anyone have any thought on this idea?  
> I am really thinking of trying it on my 200, (mainly due the short length/ 
> size of the screw,) It should not be a lot of money to buy a small acme 
> screw, and it would not be a hard change over, and it would be, easy to 
> re-store the original screw if or when needed.
>
> What do you guys think???
>
> C.A.G.
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 04:14:09 PM EDT, aussiman <
> bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: 
>
>
> A strategic design modification and all is well again producing another 
> fine handle from the bone master well done curt great work
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 11:37:21 AM UTC+11 Curt George wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> Today is my day off form work.
>
> (I am doing a side job for a friend, A stacked leather handle for a 
> knife.)(More on that latter if you all like?)
>   
> While the glue is drying on one project, I figured it would be a good time 
> to trying some 
> more new design, ideas with a new bone handle. 
> I roped form the side of the spindle using a 1/4" straight bit. 
> (Note: I turned the shape on the 200, and then used my 1000ex to rope the 
> flutes.)
> My original plan was to make a 12 flutes on a rope pitch form the side of 
> the spindle. (3" pitch) but, On the second cut, the part moved/ slipped on 
> the mandrel.
> So in an attempt to save this turning, I tightened the lock nut on the 
> mandrel, And went around a second time, making it 24 flutes. 
> Adding 12 more flutes, takes away a lot of detail, but I think it will 
> still make a nice gift when done.
> More later. 
> Have a good night everyone.
>
> C.A.G.
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