Re: I have a legacy 1200 i am selling for health reasons but can’t seem to post it to group

[James Edgell]

I only have it in FB market place, I’m tired of all the scammers , and
spammers on Craigslist
  I live in Bama, it’s got everything except the rotary index table, I
still have the book also
  I hate to sell but I have stage 4 cancer of the lyranex, I was told to go
home and they would supply morphine as needed, they can kiss my rear end!
Any ways my insurance won’t cover the protocol I am beginning because it’s
holistic and not covered in insurance?
I am asking 4500$

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 11:51 PM MWF <mwfos...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Hello James,
>
> "Welcome" to The Group.  With you getting your"reply" posted with the
> "SUBJECT" conveying your message, I am sure one of the Group's monitors
> will chime in and get you set up to where youcan post.
>
> In the meantime, maybe you can reply to this email and tell us where you
> live/where the Mill is located.
> Do you have it listed on CraigsList?  If so, what city/state?
>
> Again, clever of you to get you question out here.  We look forward to
> hearing more from you.
> And, best of luck to you in dealing with your health issues.  It's a shame
> that one of your hobbies has to be curtailed due to it.
>
> Have a Fine Friday and a Wonderful Weekend.
>
> Mac
> ------
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: James Edgell
> Sent: Apr 12, 2018 10:19 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: I have a legacy 1200 i am selling for health reasons but can’t
> seem to post it to group
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 9:18 PM James Edgell <jdm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:58 PM MWF <mwfos...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Roger,
>>>
>>> As they say over here across the Pond - in the "Land of The Right to
>>> Keep and Bear Arms" (Thanks to your King years ago.) - "Sleep well - you
>>> are in good company".  I' sure that Andy Anderson watched M.A.S.H. - in his
>>> "younger" years.
>>>
>>> I am sure a number of Group Members (and Lurkers) have seen one or more
>>> episodes (or seasons) of M.A.S.H - which is still one of THE MOST watched
>>> TV series ever.  And that was even back when there were fewer folks on
>>> earth to even watch TV.
>>> Mac
>>> --
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Bawdsey64
>>> Sent: Apr 10, 2018 6:08 PM
>>> To: MWF , Mike Pung
>>> Subject: Re: legacy for sale dallas texas
>>>
>>> Hi Mac
>>>
>>> With a comment about "Klinger & M.A.S.H." I guess there are folks on
>>> here much older than me.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Roger​
>>>
>>> From: MWF
>>> Received: 10/04/2018 22:47:16 +01:00
>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> That's OK Joe - We "Love" you anyway!
>>> Like Klinger on M.A.S.H. - you bring a chance for "levity" to The Group!
>>> Seriously:  Thanks for the link.
>>> Mac
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>> Sent: Apr 10, 2018 5:23 PM
>>> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>> Subject: Re: legacy for sale dallas texas
>>>
>>> like I said, a lot of comedians in this group!... I'll just suggest that
>>> they don't quit their day jobs!...LOL!
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I have a legacy 1200 i am selling for health reasons but can’t seem to post it to group

[James Edgell]

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 9:18 PM James Edgell <jdm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:58 PM MWF <mwfos...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Roger,
>>
>> As they say over here across the Pond - in the "Land of The Right to Keep
>> and Bear Arms" (Thanks to your King years ago.) - "Sleep well - you are in
>> good company".  I' sure that Andy Anderson watched M.A.S.H. - in his
>> "younger" years.
>>
>> I am sure a number of Group Members (and Lurkers) have seen one or more
>> episodes (or seasons) of M.A.S.H - which is still one of THE MOST watched
>> TV series ever.  And that was even back when there were fewer folks on
>> earth to even watch TV.
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bawdsey64
>> Sent: Apr 10, 2018 6:08 PM
>> To: MWF , Mike Pung
>> Subject: Re: legacy for sale dallas texas
>>
>> Hi Mac
>>
>> With a comment about "Klinger & M.A.S.H." I guess there are folks on here
>> much older than me.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Roger​
>>
>> From: MWF
>> Received: 10/04/2018 22:47:16 +01:00
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> That's OK Joe - We "Love" you anyway!
>> Like Klinger on M.A.S.H. - you bring a chance for "levity" to The Group!
>> Seriously:  Thanks for the link.
>> Mac
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>> Sent: Apr 10, 2018 5:23 PM
>> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
>> Subject: Re: legacy for sale dallas texas
>>
>> like I said, a lot of comedians in this group!... I'll just suggest that
>> they don't quit their day jobs!...LOL!
>>
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Re: legacy for sale dallas texas

[James Edgell]

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:58 PM MWF  wrote:

> Roger,
>
> As they say over here across the Pond - in the "Land of The Right to Keep
> and Bear Arms" (Thanks to your King years ago.) - "Sleep well - you are in
> good company".  I' sure that Andy Anderson watched M.A.S.H. - in his
> "younger" years.
>
> I am sure a number of Group Members (and Lurkers) have seen one or more
> episodes (or seasons) of M.A.S.H - which is still one of THE MOST watched
> TV series ever.  And that was even back when there were fewer folks on
> earth to even watch TV.
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bawdsey64
> Sent: Apr 10, 2018 6:08 PM
> To: MWF , Mike Pung
> Subject: Re: legacy for sale dallas texas
>
> Hi Mac
>
> With a comment about "Klinger & M.A.S.H." I guess there are folks on here
> much older than me.
>
> Cheers
>
> Roger​
>
>
> From: MWF
> Received: 10/04/2018 22:47:16 +01:00
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> That's OK Joe - We "Love" you anyway!
> Like Klinger on M.A.S.H. - you bring a chance for "levity" to The Group!
> Seriously:  Thanks for the link.
> Mac
> -Original Message-
> From: 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
> Sent: Apr 10, 2018 5:23 PM
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
> Subject: Re: legacy for sale dallas texas
>
> like I said, a lot of comedians in this group!... I'll just suggest that
> they don't quit their day jobs!...LOL!
>
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Re: double sided tape

[James Edgell]

I USE GORRILLA GLUE DOUBLE SIDED TAPE, IT WORKS WELL AND CLEANS UP EASY
WITH A LITTLE MINERAL SPIRITS


On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 8:08 PM, marlinhartman marlin.hart...@comcast.netwrote:

  The link www.woodturnerscatalog.com  does work
 Permmacel tape  part # 1049820001

 Marlin

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Re: New guy here

[James Edgell]

I am 45 miles north of Montgomery, but my best supplier is 35 miles south
of Montgomery, he generally has cypress, long leaf pine, Spanish and red
cedar, I also have another mill right around the corner to get other
species of wood or take wood to when I get them, like black walnut, cherry,
or when I decide to cut an oak off the property


On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Cole Andrews coleandrew...@gmail.comwrote:

 just how far south of Atlanta, I am about 3 hrs south of metro Atlanta.

 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 11:55 AM, James Edgell jdm...@gmail.com wrote:
  HELLO BILL, I am to the east of you about 2 plus hours in Alabama, I
 don't
  do the cnc thing, to rich for my blood but I have a 1200 and have done
  tapered work on it, I also have some good lumber or whole wood contacts
 if
  you need them, just send an email here and I will get back when I see it,
  good luck and have fun
 
 
  On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Stan Shuford s...@shuford.com wrote:
 
  Another welcome to BillinGA. I'm just a little north of you
 (Gainesville.)
  I am into the CNC thing.
 
  Stan Shuford
  s...@shuford.com
 
 
  On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:32 PM, BillinGA b.l.ca...@att.net wrote:
 
  Following advice and looking to be able to freely post, I will
 introduce
  myself. My name is Bill...live a little south of presently snow bound
  Atlanta. I've been woodworking for maybe 40 years. Am somewhat ashamed
 to
  admit this as my skill level  does not coincide with my time in hobby.
 Like
  many others I started with a Shopsmith that I still have. It was a
 space
  saving device as I had no shop at the time. At present I have a Delta
  contractor saw, 2 Sommerfeld router tables, a 30 drum sanding table
 from
  Stockroom Tool guys, band and jig saw, and a seldom used Legacy 900/PC
 7518
  that I bought new.  I came back to this site after a lengthy
  absence...didn't have to be a member back then as I rememberwhen I
 had a
  need for detailed tapered legs. Looking for ways to work around the
 machine
  limitations( compared to current offerings) and get my money's worth
 out of
  the mill. I'm retired but am a technical college student studying CNC
 mill
  and lathe. I hope to develop skills in programming and use these
 someday
  with a woodworking cnc.
 
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Re: New guy here

[James Edgell]

HELLO BILL, I am to the east of you about 2 plus hours in Alabama, I don't
do the cnc thing, to rich for my blood but I have a 1200 and have done
tapered work on it, I also have some good lumber or whole wood contacts if
you need them, just send an email here and I will get back when I see it,
good luck and have fun


On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Stan Shuford s...@shuford.com wrote:

 Another welcome to BillinGA. I'm just a little north of you (Gainesville.)
 I am into the CNC thing.

 Stan Shuford
 s...@shuford.com


 On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:32 PM, BillinGA b.l.ca...@att.net wrote:

 Following advice and looking to be able to freely post, I will introduce
 myself. My name is Bill...live a little south of presently snow bound
 Atlanta. I've been woodworking for maybe 40 years. Am somewhat ashamed to
 admit this as my skill level  does not coincide with my time in hobby. Like
 many others I started with a Shopsmith that I still have. It was a space
 saving device as I had no shop at the time. At present I have a Delta
 contractor saw, 2 Sommerfeld router tables, a 30 drum sanding table from
 Stockroom Tool guys, band and jig saw, and a seldom used Legacy 900/PC 7518
 that I bought new.  I came back to this site after a lengthy
 absence...didn't have to be a member back then as I rememberwhen I had
 a need for detailed tapered legs. Looking for ways to work around the
 machine limitations( compared to current offerings) and get my money's
 worth out of the mill. I'm retired but am a technical college student
 studying CNC mill and lathe. I hope to develop skills in programming and
 use these someday with a woodworking cnc.

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Re: Ice lathe

[James Edgell]

water actually weighs 8.8 pounds per gallon


On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 12:11 PM, curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com wrote:

  Thanks Mike. ;-)
 C.A.G.

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Okla Mike (Liltwisted) legacym...@iglide.net
 *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, December 29, 2013 11:17 AM
 *Subject:* Re: Ice lathe

 There are 231 cubic inches per gallon and the piece was around 11 X 35 as
 an estimate.  So that would be 18.3 gallons square.  At 8 pounds per gallon
 it's 145 pounds.  Finished at 10 inches and 40% of that missing I would say
 7.13 gallons remain or 57 pounds.  Ummm you did want an answer didn't you?
 LOL


 Mike
 OK

 On 12/29/2013 5:40 AM, curt george wrote:

 Those are some good finds Mike.
 Ice must be a hole lot softer then wood, on the manual version Video, he
 is really hogging off a lot on one pass.  I wonder how heavy that ice
 really is? I think that the ice is heaver than wood but much softer.Dose
 anyone out there know for sure?Has anyone ever worked with ice? (the closes
 thing that I've ever done was to make a snowman, and an ice shelter /
 square block igloo.) ;-)
 I remember a few years back, when Legacy did there plastic (plexie glass
 or acrylic ) spindle, Having the look, Turning something that is almost
 transparent is pretty neat. That ice video by hand really makes a nice
 looking pedestal.
 Lots of good stuff here! Thanks Mike. (((This kind of stuff keeps my mind
 active ))). ;-)
 Have a good day.
 C.A.G.

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Okla Mike (Liltwisted) legacym...@iglide.net
 *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2013 10:09 PM
 *Subject:* Re: Ice lathe

 Here is a link or three of it in action
 CNC version
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNJg1jtLF4U
 Very manual version
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gNF1xMJIQA
 By hand
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGtLyOCfBJE

 Mike
 OK

 On 12/28/2013 12:25 PM, curt george wrote:

 Hello Everyone,
 I've had the honor to see an ice lathe and I though that you all would
 also like to see it for yourself's
 The owner is named Julian Bayley  www.iceculture.com

 As you can see its not quite a Legacy but I though that it was a neat
 machine anyways.  I personally have not thought about turning Ice with my
 Legacy but..? There are a few advantages, YOU don't need a dust collector,
 No messy sawdust to clean up, and you don't need to heat the garage to work
 with it. ;-p AND one more important thing, after the pictures are taken you
 don't have to store your master piece somewhere for  the future. its a
 great benefit for those hoarder's   out there. ;-)
 I hope you all know im kidding.
 But I do think this lathe is pretty neat. What do you think?

 C.A.G.

 P.S. I do have some more pictures if you all would like to see them.

 Have a great day!
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Re: Ice lathe

[James Edgell]

never thought of ice , but a couple of other things have come to mind,
bamboo, styrafoam to make a mold, coconuts :), and a few various other odd
items, I like it :)


On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
legacym...@iglide.net wrote:

  Fantastic machine.  And no need to sweep up the shavings, I like that!
 Great find Curt
 Mike
 OK


  On 12/28/2013 12:25 PM, curt george wrote:

 Hello Everyone,
 I've had the honor to see an ice lathe and I though that you all would
 also like to see it for yourself's
 The owner is named Julian Bayley  www.iceculture.com

 As you can see its not quite a Legacy but I though that it was a neat
 machine anyways.  I personally have not thought about turning Ice with my
 Legacy but..? There are a few advantages, YOU don't need a dust collector,
 No messy sawdust to clean up, and you don't need to heat the garage to work
 with it. ;-p AND one more important thing, after the pictures are taken you
 don't have to store your master piece somewhere for  the future. its a
 great benefit for those hoarder's   out there. ;-)
 I hope you all know im kidding.
 But I do think this lathe is pretty neat. What do you think?

 C.A.G.

 P.S. I do have some more pictures if you all would like to see them.

 Have a great day!
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Re: question

[James Edgell]

it is from magnate, i think they call it a plunge round over, i make it
from the whole log, it was cedar this time, i make the ball first, then
bring the stems down to rough diameter, in that case it was 1 1/2 inch for
a barley bit, after that i use a 1/2 inch uppercut spiral to cut the
grooves, i also do a hollow ball but only with 2 or three cuts on cedar
because it is so fickle, sometimes the ends chip out a little so i take a
dremmel with a barrel sander and dress em up a bit. get your patience on
though if you use cedar, get in a hurry just a little and you could end up
saying bye bye to the piece


On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Ccm Ccm ccmdesi...@gmail.com wrote:

 nice work james


 On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 10:00 PM, James Edgell jdm...@gmail.com wrote:

 i do something similar for candle sticks, here is an inclosed pic, i use
 a 3 inch ball making bit


 On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 6:23 AM, curt george curtgeo...@wowway.comwrote:

 **
 Good morning Mike.
 Pretty neat stuff. Thank you for the breakdown of this idea,
 Your technique could be valuable in one of my future projects.
 Thank you.
 C.A.G.

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Okla Mike (Liltwisted) legacym...@iglide.net
 *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Friday, October 11, 2013 10:55 PM
 *Subject:* Re: question

 You could cut one piece large enough to do it all in one, into pieces,
 removing the center piece bulge for the beading process.  Then drill holes
 for dowels to put it back together.  After the pegs are drilled, use those
 holes and dowels to chuck into your machines so the dowel or hole being
 the center, each piece will orbit perfectly around it.  This way all
 you have to line up is the grain when you glue it back together.  Or
 you could just use wood from different stock if the grain does not matter
 so much.

 Mike
 OK
 On 10/11/2013 7:22 PM, curt george wrote:

 Mike
 How would you make it in sections?  I understand what you are saying
 about making mistakes, but I must  be missing something in the application?
 Are you suggesting to make a turning with a space in it to add a piece of
 wood, so that you can rough out one piece at a time? something like a
 template and a split turning, jam chuck, all in one?
 Perhaps I'm just over looking something at this moment?
 Its been a long day for me. (I'm going to hit the hay now.).

 See you all latter.
 Good night.
 C.A.G.




 - Original Message -

 *From:* Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au
 *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:15 PM
 *Subject:* RE: question

  Brilliant as always mike

 Bill

 

 *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [
 mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comlegacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
 *On Behalf Of *Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
 *Sent:* Friday, 11 October 2013 3:04 AM
 *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: question

 

 There is only one way to do this and it will be from the side.

 Then you have a choice, All in one or sections.  I would do sections and
 add the turnings, top and bottom after milling.  If you choose the all
 one piece method, you are stuck to your math and committed on the first
 cut.  If you section it, you can re-make the section easy if you don't like
 the way it looks.

 Now lets break down the beads
 Assume 4 diameter X 3.14 is a 12.5 diameter
 Each bead looks to be 1/4 so we will divide 12.5 by .25 = around 50
 looking at the piece it looks like 12 repeated patterns and that won't
 work with 50 so we will fudge it down to 48
 48 divided by 12 = 4 so you will have to use a 48 index, an 1/8 round
 over side cutting bead bit.
 Set your y axis template follower up
 cut one skip 3 cut one skip 3 etc.

 That is the easy way to look at it.  I would use a 1/4, side bead with
 the extra top and bottom blade length.  Then I would index 60 times for a
 cut 1 skip 4 process.  The bead will have a point to it that I would hand
 sand round but the wide bead would transition better.

 Have fun with it and give'r a try.

 Mike
 OK 

 On 10/10/2013 4:31 AM, Bill Bulkeley wrote:

 Any ideas on how we can do this on the mill?

 I like it, it would look good on a leg or something along with a spiral
 or 2

 

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Re: question

[James Edgell]

yes sir mr bill that is the bit i used


On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 6:13 PM, James Edgell jdm...@gmail.com wrote:

 it is from magnate, i think they call it a plunge round over, i make it
 from the whole log, it was cedar this time, i make the ball first, then
 bring the stems down to rough diameter, in that case it was 1 1/2 inch for
 a barley bit, after that i use a 1/2 inch uppercut spiral to cut the
 grooves, i also do a hollow ball but only with 2 or three cuts on cedar
 because it is so fickle, sometimes the ends chip out a little so i take a
 dremmel with a barrel sander and dress em up a bit. get your patience on
 though if you use cedar, get in a hurry just a little and you could end up
 saying bye bye to the piece


 On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Ccm Ccm ccmdesi...@gmail.com wrote:

 nice work james


 On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 10:00 PM, James Edgell jdm...@gmail.com wrote:

 i do something similar for candle sticks, here is an inclosed pic, i use
 a 3 inch ball making bit


 On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 6:23 AM, curt george curtgeo...@wowway.comwrote:

 **
 Good morning Mike.
 Pretty neat stuff. Thank you for the breakdown of this idea,
 Your technique could be valuable in one of my future projects.
 Thank you.
 C.A.G.

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Okla Mike (Liltwisted) legacym...@iglide.net
 *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Friday, October 11, 2013 10:55 PM
 *Subject:* Re: question

 You could cut one piece large enough to do it all in one, into pieces,
 removing the center piece bulge for the beading process.  Then drill holes
 for dowels to put it back together.  After the pegs are drilled, use those
 holes and dowels to chuck into your machines so the dowel or hole
 being the center, each piece will orbit perfectly around it.  This way
 all you have to line up is the grain when you glue it back together.
 Or you could just use wood from different stock if the grain does not
 matter so much.

 Mike
 OK
 On 10/11/2013 7:22 PM, curt george wrote:

 Mike
 How would you make it in sections?  I understand what you are saying
 about making mistakes, but I must  be missing something in the application?
 Are you suggesting to make a turning with a space in it to add a piece of
 wood, so that you can rough out one piece at a time? something like a
 template and a split turning, jam chuck, all in one?
 Perhaps I'm just over looking something at this moment?
 Its been a long day for me. (I'm going to hit the hay now.).

 See you all latter.
 Good night.
 C.A.G.




 - Original Message -

 *From:* Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au
 *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:15 PM
 *Subject:* RE: question

  Brilliant as always mike

 Bill

 

 *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [
 mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comlegacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
 *On Behalf Of *Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
 *Sent:* Friday, 11 October 2013 3:04 AM
 *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: question

 

 There is only one way to do this and it will be from the side.

 Then you have a choice, All in one or sections.  I would do sections
 and add the turnings, top and bottom after milling.  If you choose the
 all one piece method, you are stuck to your math and committed on the first
 cut.  If you section it, you can re-make the section easy if you don't like
 the way it looks.

 Now lets break down the beads
 Assume 4 diameter X 3.14 is a 12.5 diameter
 Each bead looks to be 1/4 so we will divide 12.5 by .25 = around 50
 looking at the piece it looks like 12 repeated patterns and that won't
 work with 50 so we will fudge it down to 48
 48 divided by 12 = 4 so you will have to use a 48 index, an 1/8 round
 over side cutting bead bit.
 Set your y axis template follower up
 cut one skip 3 cut one skip 3 etc.

 That is the easy way to look at it.  I would use a 1/4, side bead with
 the extra top and bottom blade length.  Then I would index 60 times for a
 cut 1 skip 4 process.  The bead will have a point to it that I would hand
 sand round but the wide bead would transition better.

 Have fun with it and give'r a try.

 Mike
 OK 

 On 10/10/2013 4:31 AM, Bill Bulkeley wrote:

 Any ideas on how we can do this on the mill?

 I like it, it would look good on a leg or something along with a spiral
 or 2

 

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Re: ANSWER to Mystery (screw) driver bit Challenge

[James Edgell]

i always use torx, they are great for final installation or just secureing
for a trial fit, they always go in or out without slipping :)


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:29 AM, mwfos...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Well I finally found the answer.

 The bit is called a LOX (and its size is a #2).  Here is the info I found
 about it and I have attached a photo as well - should be the last one -
 after the ones I took earlier.  Many thought it was a bit for a security
 or tamper-proof screw head.  I've seen many of them and did not think
 that was the answer.  Further searching combined with dumb luck finally
 yielded the below info:
 --
 One company that uses the LOX bit technology is the Grabber Corp.  They
 make LOTS of things screw related.  Here is a cut-paste from their web
 site:

 LOX is a technologically advanced driver system engineered for
 high-torque applications. LOX grabs hard and sinks even harder, giving you
 positive joint reliability with predictable results every time.
 --
 My screw drive tip of choice is Torx - with square drive being second.  I
 avoid Phillips when at all possible and flat tip is LAST choice.
 Rationale: I almost NEVER have a Torx head cam out or bung up and the drive
 tip stays seated extremely well.  If you have never used them, you owe it
 to yourself to try them.  (There are many manufacturers of the Torx drive
 screws.)  It appears that the LOX is a product improvement of the square
 drive tip.  I have not used them yet - so I can't comment.

 Thanks to all who replied with their thoughts.  I owe you the courtesy of
 sharing my finding.

 Enjoy.
 Mac


 -Forwarded Message-
 From: Va Oak **
 Sent: Jul 25, 2013 2:06 PM
 To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Mystery (screw) driver bit Challenge

 Greetings,

 There have been few  far between postings of late to the Group's pages.
 Consequently, I thought I would tap into the breadth of brain power 
 knowledge within the Group in order to shed light onto a most unusual
 (screw) driver bit/tip that I have come to possess.  Included are 4 photos
 showing the tip - notice the unusual grooves in it.  The end seems to be
 about the size of a #3 square tip or Roberts. (definitely not a Phillips or
 PosiDrive).  There is a marking on one of the flats of the bit:
 JBW2-4.  The bit's entire length is just shy of 2 - and the base is made
 to fit the standard 1/4 hex driver collet.

 My questions:  What kind of fastener/screw is it used on?  I have NEVER
 seen a driver bit like this.

 Does anyone have any idea as to who manufactured it?  What does JWB2-4
 mean?

 Thanks for the help.

 Mac

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Re: New type of screw

[James Edgell]

excellent


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:29 AM, mwfos...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Jeff,
 You thought as as I did - I cut/pasted our similar comments below. (Mine
 was meant to be humorous.)

 Yours: Well my thought was something that does not get a great deal of
 movement.

 Mine: for light duty assembly - like small Ikea-type book shelves and
 - NOT college dorm beds!  LoL :-)

 Mac
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 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Becker **
 Sent: Jun 3, 2013 12:11 PM
 To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: New type of screw

  ** ** ** ** 

 Well my thought was something that does not get a great deal of movement.
 Something like a desk, book case, entertainment center, Lamp.  I don’t
 think it would work for a chair, children toys, beds.

 ** **

 I do know it is available in only metric sizes, I would want to use dowel
 centers to line things up and I have never seen metric dowel centers.  I
 needed some one time and ended up placing electrical tape around a standard
 size and it worked fine.

 ** **

 You said you wondered how tight it got the video did display a gage for
 pressure, I was thinking of getting out a torque wrench and seeing how
 tight I usually tighten pocket screws.

 ** **

 Jeff Becker

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:
 legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *
 mwfos...@earthlink.net
 *Sent:* Monday, June 03, 2013 11:34 AM
 *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: New type of screw

 ** **

 Wow - that was someone thinking outside the box that invented this.  Yes,
 Jeff, I agree.  Watching the video, it appears they hold drive device in
 both positions.


 My two concerns are:
 1.   How tight did I get it?  I often find myself following up an
 assembly with a hand tool, wrench or screwdriver, just to be sure that
 everything is snugged down tight.  How do we know how tight the screw
 action got?
 2.  If, by chance, over a period of time, the screw has had pressure
 applied to the threads and the driver mechanism is unable to make the
 screw un-screw, you are screwed - you'll have to resort to destructive
 measures; getting a big pair of ViseGrips or an impact driver is not an
 option.

 Its my guess that the best application for this mechanism is for light
 duty assembly - like small Ikea-type book shelves and cabinets - NOT
 college dorm beds!  LoL :-)

 That's my 2 cents.
 Mac
 

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 Sent: Jun 3, 2013 10:32 AM
 To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Subject: New type of screw


 

 Has anyone seen or used this type of screw?
 http://www.dump.com/invisiblescrew/

  

 By the looks of the video I would think you can tighten or loosen the
 screws by holding the attachment on either end or beside the insert. 

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Re: Y Axis Movement

[James Edgell]

i have a 1200 and use a hand held spring clamp, it allows easy handle
adjustment and holds fast, i use these clamps all over the machine with
rubber tips


On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 10:31 PM, mwfos...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Michael (or is it MG?),
 Ditto re: Welcome.
 All the suggestions submitted so far are great; however, I have a
 question:
 Have you attempted to reduce the vibration?  Are you using any type of router
 collet extension?  There is a possibility that the vibrations are caused
 by the extension device.  I'd remove the extension - replacing the bit
 with a straight one, and then turn the router on.  If it runs smoother,
 the cause of the vibs is either the extension or the router bit(s).  I
 know that one of the collet extension companies includes instructions for
 balancing out their extension - you may need to do this.
 Again - welcome; and Good Luck.
 Mac
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 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Krause **
 Sent: May 4, 2013 9:38 PM
 To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Y Axis Movement

  ** ** ** **
 Welcome to the group Michael,

 I installed a simple y-axis lock using a large locking plate (legacy part)
 and a handle with a 1/4-20 thread.  There is a hole on the router tray as
 shown below.  The locking plate floats freely in the aluminum rail track.
 When you need to lock the y-axis in place turn the knob and the locking
 plate tightens up.  It does not get easier than this.



 -Tim


 - Original Message -
 *From:* Michael Garrison Stuber mtgstu...@gmail.com
 *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, May 04, 2013 7:59 AM
 *Subject:* Y Axis Movement

 Hi All,
 I recently picked up a 1200 used.  I've seen them for years and
 finally bought one.  I've upgraded it with a chuck, as well as adding a
 morse taper tailstock so I could add a live center.  I'm considering adding
 a drive motor, and I'd love some advice.
 I have a bigger problem at the moment though.  When my router is
 running there is enough vibration that the handle on the Y axis vibrates
 until the heaviest part reaches the lowest point.  To improve this, I
 switched out the default hand wheel with a better balanced speed handle
 like you might find on a bridgeport mill.  It helped a little, but not
 enough.  Thus, I'll get the Y in the right spot, fire things up, and then
 it (very slowly) moves.  Has anybody else run into this?  Any tips?

 Michael Garrison Stube

 


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Re: Cricket Cages

[James Edgell]

i have been working on a poject similar to this,but i am using 8 and 10
pieces  to form the circle, then turn it to round, and put your pattern on
it and carve it out with the bits you please to use

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 7:34 PM, curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com wrote:

 **
 Tim that is AWESOME!
 You know I was playing about in the shop last week trying to do something
 very much like this. Only I cheated, I use PVC plastic piping, for the
 shell.
 Mine projects ended up breaking, but I was not using a good router bit I
 was just   seeing  if it would work. I still it think I will, and for
 little cost and even less effort, this idea,just might be a good worm up
 for your suggested project.Tim.

 Have a good night all.
 C.A.G.

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net
 *To:* Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2012 8:03 PM
 *Subject:* Cricket Cages

 Hello All,

 A cricket cage is a thin wall box that has been pierced (drilled holes)
 and slots.  It's an open box if you will.  These types of forms could be
 used to hold a candle votive or a potpourri case.  I see all sorts of
 potential here.

 I've attached an interesting article that describes making one.  The
 author cites two ornamental turners that I admire and the author of the
 article is becoming quite accomplished in his own right.

 I think if I where to attempt these designs on the legacy I would leave
 the walls of the cylinder thicker, make the indexed cut with a liner inside
 the tube for support and to act as a waste board.  Then turn the outside of
 the cylinder down to however thin you would like.  This would eliminate
 some of the fuzz problems IMHO.

 For the doubters in the group, if you think this level of detail is not
 possible on the Legacy I challenge you to go out in the shop and give it a
 try.  I think it's well within it's capabilities and you will be
 surprised.  Actually, I challenge everyone in this group to making a
 version of this project.  How about it, any takers?

 -Tim






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Re: for anyone interested

[James Edgell]

i went to ogden high school, but reside there no longer, military brat ☺

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Greg Walker gregle...@netzero.net wrote:

 What is in Utah?  I live about five hours North of Salt lake City.

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 I don't suppose you're anywhere near Utah are you?

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for anyone interested

[james edgell]

i can get you  pine  4x4, 6x6, in 8, 10, 12,and 16 foot lengths, 4x4`s go 
for 5 , 6, 8, and 11 dollars, 6x6`s go for 10, 12,16,and 20 dollars, i also 
have 2x and 1 by pricing and good deals on rough cut oak

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Re: Fw: pix

[James Edgell]

i was just curious, it is one of my favorite to use doing a hollow spiral
and looked like a single start with one

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.auwrote:

 **
 perhaps the spiral on the round table was done with the 5 or 6inch
 combination barley bits the look like fairly large spirals
 Bill

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 *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2012 2:21 AM
 *Subject:* Re: Fw: pix

 on the round table, did you do the spiral on the leggs with a ball making
 bit, it looks like what i get when i use the 3 inch ball maker.

 On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:02 AM, curt george curtgeo...@wowway.comwrote:

 **
 Hello everyone.
 I just found these ,on a off link form Begat's cragslist web site
 postings.
 I thought that these pictures were nice enough to share simple designs
 that really show up nicely.
 Think of it as EYE CANDY, (something to get you motivated to go out there
 and make it your self.)

 I have to get to work now.
 Have a GREAT DAY Everyone !

 C.A.G.



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Re: Podium project

[James Edgell]

i have two hugh walnuts i need to cut here in the near future, one is big
enough that two people cant reach around it

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Dexter Bland dexterbl...@gmail.com wrote:

 The reason that I mentioned where the wood was from, usually this far
 south walnut tends to be a darker color.

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Re: Podium project

[James Edgell]

that wood is go straight to the mill behind my house, both are hugh, they
are on family land, 1 belongs to my cousin, she just wants it cut, both are
black walnut
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 12:07 PM, curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com wrote:

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 James
 Do your homework before you have those trees cut down, Large Walnut trees
 as big as you state could be worth a lot of money to plywood or furniture
 maker..
 I have no idea on the cost of ... but since you own the trees, It might be
 worth it to you to cover all Your bases before  you do anything?
 Have a good day.And good luck.
 C.A.G.

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 *Subject:* Re: Podium project

 i have two hugh walnuts i need to cut here in the near future, one is big
 enough that two people cant reach around it

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 The reason that I mentioned where the wood was from, usually this far
 south walnut tends to be a darker color.

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Re: Map

[James Edgell]

stay warm

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 Just tried to put my marker on the map but I appear to be somewhere in the
 north sea.
 I am actually slap bang in the middle of England so anyone who would like
 to drop in , let me know. I don't expect a flurry from you folk across the
 pond.
 Best regards,
 Alan

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Re: Ornamental Mills Around the World

[James Edgell]

i have my stake in the ground, right where my house should be

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:03 AM, curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com wrote:

 **
 Thanks Tim
 that is fun.Hopefully there will be someone in my neck to the woods? Any
 and all are welcome to stop on by if you are in the Mich.
 C.A.G.

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 *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:41 PM
 *Subject:* Ornamental Mills Around the World

 Hello All,

 I value the privacy of the members in this group more than most people
 appreciate.  On the other hand, I like to know where other owners are
 located.  There's nothing in Google Groups that can be used to show our
 individual locations so I found a free service that will make it possible.
 For now, it's a hidden feature on ornamentalmills.com.

 It's a world map that allows you to place a marker. One of the goals in
 offering this feature is to help bring members closer together.   It just
 might be a conversation starter.  Any information that you enter is
 voluntary.   The map is currently available to the public so please be
 careful about any private information that you are posting.

 The Link to the Map:
 http://ornamentalmills.com/map/usermap.html

 Direction for placing your marker:
 http://ornamentalmills.com/map/map_directions.html

 If I start getting spammed with this feature I'll either take steps to
 moderate the input or depending on the level of activity I might
 discontinue it at any time.  My hopes is we can get more than 40 members to
 place a marker on the map.   Come on Lurkers, prove to me that people are
 reading this group still!

 Let me know what you think of this new feature.

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Re: Podium project

[James Edgell]

nice job, are you from bama?



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 Here is a podium that I made about a year ago. It is made of Walnut
 (cut from N Alabama) with a Tung Oil finish (not sure how many coats)
 that was sanded between each coat with steel wool. The top is made in
 two pieces. The lower piece is glued and screwed to the shaft and then
 the top just glued. I made sure the two pieces had the grain opposing
 each other to keep it flat. The shaft is 3 and is cut with the barley
 twist.

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Re: Podium project

[James Edgell]

equality, lake martin area

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Dexter Bland dexterbl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yep, Piedmont area...

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Re: could someone explain the formula

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sorry i havent gotten back to you all sooner, i take care of my folks and
have custody of my two grandboys so life is pretty twisted around when you
throw work in there also. the birds mouth was what i was talking about and
i was using the formula that magnate has on there which is 2.414 if i am
not mistaken, i figured that i would get a 8 inch diameter column but like
i said it dident happen, but what the hey, i was using 9 inch long pieces
that were 3 and 3/8 wide with 2 inch thick wood. i wanna make some street
lamps for my driveway and i like the center being open so i can run the
electrical line up it.

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:

 **
 http://ornamentalmills.com/tips/polygon_calc/column_graph.pdf is the
 updated link.  It should work now.

 -Tim


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 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 24, 2012 1:58 PM
 *Subject:* Re: could someone explain the formula

 Thank you Tim.
 By the way the duckworks web site works fine. but the onrmanetalmills site
 would not open for me.
 I have not done a large column in a long time, I'm glad that you still had
 those web sites,You never know when you will need
 stuff like this.
 IMHO the birds-mouth joint is the easest and strongest way to make
 columns  in the past Mike and Art did a lot of talking on this topic. (
 http://www.turningaround.org/BirdMouth.htm)  check it out for your
 self's, thee is a lot of good stuff there.
 Thank you again Tim.
 and to all have a good night..

 C.A.G.

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 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:07 AM
 *Subject:* Re: could someone explain the formula

 It's on the web site.
 http://ornamentalmills.com/tips/polygon_calc/column+graph.pdf as well as
 an online calculator
 http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/04/s/articles/birdsmouth/index.cfm#online-calc
  .

 -Tim

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 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 24, 2012 1:16 AM
 *Subject:* Re: could someone explain the formula

 Hello Everyone,
 Tim did you ever find Mike Pung's birds-mouth calculator? (I no longer
 have it on file,)
 But If I remember correctly,  You put in the numbers in the set up,size of
 column number of staves... This calculator you give you all the dimensions
 that you needed to make a column. All in one step.

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could someone explain the formula

[James Edgell]

on 8 and 12 sided hollow columns, this is the first time i am gonna attempt
doing one of these for an idea i have and my numbers dident come out right,
lol, when figuring for the diameter of the column. i wanted an 8 inch round
and cut an 8 sided boards at 3 and 3/8 inches but came up way short when
using 2 inch thick wood. appreciate any help you might be able to
offerthanks,JD

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Re: could someone explain the formula

[James Edgell]

thanks jeff, i thought i was using the formula correctly but the diameter
came out to 6 inches, hmmph, so i added 2  inches to my original 3 and 3/8
and now it seems a little closer, still if i wanna do something i wanna be
able to figure it correctly with out doing small pieces for calculation
first.



2012/4/23 Jeff Becker jwb...@insightbb.com

 The circumference of a circle can be found by multiplying pi ( π = 3.14 )
 by the diameter of the circle.  So if you have a Diameter of 8 it would
 be 3.14 x 8 = 25.12.  Now if you want this board to be turned round with
 the diameter of 8 it will need to be slightly larger because you are
 knocking off the corners. It looks like you had the right formula, you
 just didn't figure knocking off the corners.  I usually use turbo cad for
 this , and that is on a different computer, if you need additional help I
 can work on it this evening.

 Jeff Becker

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 *Subject: *could someone explain the formula


 on 8 and 12 sided hollow columns, this is the first time i am gonna
 attempt doing one of these for an idea i have and my numbers dident come
 out right, lol, when figuring for the diameter of the column. i wanted an 8
 inch round and cut an 8 sided boards at 3 and 3/8 inches but came up way
 short when using 2 inch thick wood. appreciate any help you might be able
 to offerthanks,JD

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Re: could someone explain the formula

[James Edgell]

i will have to go to the office depot next time i go to montgomerry, way
out here in the woods we got no such thing, lol, but on the good side i do
have plenty of wood.

2012/4/23 Jeff Becker jwb...@insightbb.com

 It has been awhile since I used that method to figure the size of the
 wood, if I remember correctly using that method the diameter will be like
 drawing a circle around each point, so the larger the width of the boards
 the more that will be cut down when turning.  Instead of wasting the
 material you can cut one piece of scrap to the size you decide to use and
 then cut into the number of pieces you plan to use and placing them in a
 circle.  You can get a 30 dollar program at Amazon, or office depot called
 Turbo cad you can draw it up on a computer screen and figure it out without
 making any saw dust or using any materials.

 Jeff Becker

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 *Subject: *Re: could someone explain the formula


 thanks jeff, i thought i was using the formula correctly but the diameter
 came out to 6 inches, hmmph, so i added 2  inches to my original 3 and 3/8
 and now it seems a little closer, still if i wanna do something i wanna be
 able to figure it correctly with out doing small pieces for calculation
 first.



 2012/4/23 Jeff Becker jwb...@insightbb.com

 The circumference of a circle can be found by multiplying pi ( π = 3.14 )
 by the diameter of the circle.  So if you have a Diameter of 8 it would
 be 3.14 x 8 = 25.12.  Now if you want this board to be turned round with
 the diameter of 8 it will need to be slightly larger because you are
 knocking off the corners. It looks like you had the right formula, you
 just didn't figure knocking off the corners.  I usually use turbo cad for
 this , and that is on a different computer, if you need additional help I
 can work on it this evening.

 Jeff Becker

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 *Sent: *Monday, April 23, 2012 4:21:12 PM
 *Subject: *could someone explain the formula


 on 8 and 12 sided hollow columns, this is the first time i am gonna
 attempt doing one of these for an idea i have and my numbers dident come
 out right, lol, when figuring for the diameter of the column. i wanted an 8
 inch round and cut an 8 sided boards at 3 and 3/8 inches but came up way
 short when using 2 inch thick wood. appreciate any help you might be able
 to offerthanks,JD

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Re: could someone explain the formula

[James Edgell]

see i am doing 45 degree cuts on a table saw, like the  router bit they
have at magnate, i just think it is easier and allows for more speed, so i
was using their formula , and came up with 3 and 3/8


On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:

 **
 I just looked at the specifics of what you are trying and your numbers
 should have worked as shown by this drawing.


 At 3.375 you would have had extra room to make a 8 column (assuming 8
 sided polygon).

 I'm not a math guy and the formula to find the length was complicated to
 me which is why I made my spreadsheet program.   To find the length of the
 segment you take the desired outside diameter and multiply it by the
 tangent of the miter angle which is calculated by dividing 360 by 2 times
 the number of sides.  So,  8 * tan(22.5) simplifies to 8 * .414 and that
 equals 3.313 which is pretty close to my cad model.  I'm not sure where
 you went wrong.

 There is a birdsmouth calculation in magnate's catalog that even works for
 polygons.  For 8 sided polygons divide the diameter by 2.414.  That equals
 3.314 which is close to my model as well.  That number to divide things by
 is going to change depending on the number of sides.  I've got that
 information buried somewhere so I'll leave that up to other that might
 know.

 It sure would be good to know what went wrong.

 -Tim


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 *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2012 1:21 PM
 *Subject:* could someone explain the formula

 on 8 and 12 sided hollow columns, this is the first time i am gonna
 attempt doing one of these for an idea i have and my numbers dident come
 out right, lol, when figuring for the diameter of the column. i wanted an 8
 inch round and cut an 8 sided boards at 3 and 3/8 inches but came up way
 short when using 2 inch thick wood. appreciate any help you might be able
 to offerthanks,JD

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Re: Legacy parts ordering

[James Edgell]

dont feel bad, i have the same problems ordering parts from legacy, they
tell me they are going to get back to me and never do, i am just a small
fish but when i purchased my 1800 and some of the accessories it was a hugh
investment on my part

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 8:10 PM, curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com wrote:

 Hello
 Carl I am sorry to hear of your problems with shipping and Legacy's
 customer service.
 In most jobs that I have done, sometimes you need to look outside the
 box.(so to speak) There is almost always more than one way to skin a
 cat.(again just an expression.)
 What was the job pending? could you have done something different to keep
 the job?
 I mean Pillaster dogs are neat, but wasn't there another way to get the
 job done with out having to wait on Legacy?

 It is Ashame that they treaded you like that. I was taught that honesty
 is always the best policy.someone should have been up front with you about
 possible back order problem and time that would be needed to expect the
 parts in question.
 Hopefully this will not happen again in the future?
 good luck and have a good night.
 C.A.G.

 - Original Message - From: Begat bega...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
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 Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:16 PM
 Subject: Re: Legacy parts ordering


 Hello Carl,

 Sorry to hear that you're losing a job.  I'm not looking to sell my
 hubs, but which size did you need for your custom job and when must
 they be to you?  Perhaps I can get them to you in time and you can
 send them back to me when your job is complete.

 Begat

 On Feb 14, 1:55 pm, carstenstig...@verizon.net wrote:

 Greetings all. i thought that I would give everyone what I have found out
 today about parts support from Legacy. Over one month ago I ordered a set
 of pilaster hubs and a number of indexing hubs from Magnate. So far I have
 received nothing. I called a number of weeks ago and found out that they
 had not even been made nor were they in stock at Legacy. (I have found it
 amazing that when placing an order with these companies you are NEVER told
 the items are not in stock nor made - but man they take your cash right
 quick). I was promised a ship date of two weeks. Well today I called again
 as it has been longer than the two weeks. Magnate tells me they have a call
 into Legacy but have recived no response from them. SHOCKED I TELL YOU -
 SHOCKED. So I called. (I had called both earlier today and had been
 promised call backs that never materialized.) Now I have been told the
 pillaster hubs are at the platers and they are VERY SLOW. I guess that if
 Legacy says they are slow I most likely will not get these items for
 another month or so...Word of advice if ordering legacy parts Get them to
 say if they actually have it on hand and can ship and get a name. I lost a
 custom job this morning because I have once again had to wait on parts from
 Legacy. I realize the economy is not the greatest but I find the honesty of
 these places really dropping in their dealings with their customers. I have
 been looking at a CNC setup and decided today that Legacy is out of the
 running. The customer support is just not up to par with what it needs to
 be and I just cannot take the chance with them. Anybody have some hubs and
 a set of the pilaster dogs they do not use and want to sell? I get a
 positive response and I will cancel my order with Magnate immediately. i
 will pay new price for them plus shipping. 6 hubs and the pilaster dogs
 were $87.00 total. Going once.







 In His Service
 Carl StigersWWW.treetothee.com


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curious question?

[James Edgell]

i am not completely satisified with the legacy locknut for the carraige
drive, i have had it fail and jump thread before on the drive rod, that and
is it neoprene or whatever,,?? plastics are made to fail, omo, have you all
had this problem? if so how did you remedy it? and has any of you ever seen
a brass replacement? and why plastic?
   just curious, not a big thing, i got it mostly licked. thanks

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Re: Happy new year everyone!

[James Edgell]

happy new year to you also, may it be prosperous, healthy , fun and loving
filled

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 We have 197 postings this Dec. One of our best years on record.
 I just wanted to Thank everyone for all there input. Its been a Great
 year,
 I wish you all the very best.
 And leading into a happy New Year. Im sure that there will be a lot
 more to come.

 Again Thank you.

 C.A.G. (Curtis A George.)

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Re: Happy new year everyone!

[James Edgell]

hahaha, i wish i needed to go swiming to cool off, you would love it here
recently, 30`s at night 60`s day, farenheit, merry new year mate, *always
wanted to say that* lol

On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.auwrote:

 **
 happy new year to all from down under, its a hot 95 degrees F here right
 now some one  send some cool from your winter I'm sick of swimming every
 day to keep cool.
 even way too hot to go in the shop must get a aircon for it one day

 Bill

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 *Sent:* Sunday, January 01, 2012 2:43 PM
 *Subject:* Re: Happy new year everyone!

 happy new year to you also, may it be prosperous, healthy , fun and loving
 filled

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 We have 197 postings this Dec. One of our best years on record.
 I just wanted to Thank everyone for all there input. Its been a Great
 year,
 I wish you all the very best.
 And leading into a happy New Year. Im sure that there will be a lot
 more to come.

 Again Thank you.

 C.A.G. (Curtis A George.)

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Re: merry christmas

[James Edgell]

merry christmas to you and your family also mr bill, i hear santa use`s
kangaroos to pull his sleigh down under, lol, hows that working out?



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 And to yo as well Bill!
 Merry Christmas,

 C.A.G.

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Re: Rope Twist Calculation

[James Edgell]

i just finished a 11 start 1 rope on a 5.5 diamater column. this was my
formula. diameter x 2 divided by bit width, 1 , hence 11 starts, but 
on the other side of the coin, if you find a bit?? and your wood has it
limits as to how much you have,,, you can work that in reverse and figure
out the diameter of the wood, to make equal starts, using that bit. hope
that helps,,, JD

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
legacym...@iglide.net wrote:

  Thanks Bill,
 I could follow that, but then again I have 17 years with this machine.  To
 simplify what Bill said and to add my own opinion, Here I go...
 First of all a bit will almost never determine the diameter of your
 material.  An example of almost is trying to use a 3 barley bit on a pen
 blank.  That's kind of David and Goliath but you get the point.
 The diameter of the project is going to be the guide you use to determine
 bit size and pitch.  And the bits you have available will also be a
 deciding factor.
 Determining a pitch I always try to stay larger than the stock but no
 greater than twice the size.  That means a 6 stock I will use a pitch
 between 6 and 12  For the sake of argument let's just assume you have a
 2 rope bit and that's it The pitches that will work are:
 6 so your start will be: 36 divided by 2 = 3
 8 so your start will be: 4
 10 so your start will be: 5
 12 so your start will be: 6

 Pitch divided by bit size = starts
 Bit size X starts = Pitch
 Pitch divided by starts = bit size


 Mike
 OK

 On 12/14/2011 10:30 PM, Bill Bulkeley wrote:

 I find to make it easier to use multiples of the bit dia as a guide to the
 dia of the stock
 working on say a 2 inch barley or rope bit

 a 1to1to1  ratio   for  a single start spiral 2inch bit and 2 inch stock
 if you want like a 2 start spiral then you either need to double stock or
 half the stock dia

 so a 6 inch dia stock a 2start would use a 3 inch bit a 3 start would use
 a 2 inch bit a 6 start would be a 1inch bit

 a 8 inch stock a 4 start would use a 2 inch bit

 a 9 inch stock 3start would use a 3 inch bit a 1 1/2 bit for a  6 start
 spiral


 Bill




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 Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:57 PM
 Subject: Rope Twist Calculation


 I am new to this forum and to making spirals on my Legacy 900.  I'm
 stumped though.
 How do you determine the stock diameter for a given pitch/bit/start?
 I need to mill spiral columns that are close to 6, 8 and 9  and
 can't find any formulas that address the stock diameter relative to
 the pitch.
 Thanks for any assistance from those of you who have mastered this.
 Rob

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Re: I made a new toy today.

[James Edgell]

ok call me ignorant but whay did you do this? is there an advantage to it i
cant figure?



On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 6:44 AM, Ron Taylor rontaylor1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just a heads up with ref to a genie garage door opener. In my experience
 they have a very short duty cycle and the thermal cutout would operate
 quite quickly, probably before any real work could be done.


 On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.auwrote:

 **
 the corbox bit I was referring too was 2 inch and it was for removing
 material quickly when following a template with the z axis (when you make
 one) very much like a model 200 I think. I have not seen one but I tried it
 with my z axis using a small roller to roll along the template it worked
 really well. I got the idea from the legacy videos on their cnc sight they
 turn shapes with a core box bit under program so I thought it they can do
 it then we can do it with a manual machine.
 and provided you have a fine feed and a few RPM you also get a good
 finish.I must get around to making this permanent on my z axis.
 see the trouble with the manual mills is (unless you use 2 handles at
 once that is)  is the finish is not good using the gears and one handle or
 the motor with a 1/2 inch pitch is just too fast to get a nice finish
 turning. there are 2 ways to fix this increase the RPM of the spindle with
 the same 1/2 inch pitch hence 2 motors one on the feed and one on the
 spindle. second which is a much better way I think is slow the feed rate or
 pitch  down instead of 1/2 inch pitch a  1/16 inch pitch which is why I
 made the sprockets and chains I posted before a few days ago.one handle or
 motor and a nice fine feed. and as you have discoverd it gets a really nice
 finish which needs nearly no sanding

 Bill

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 *Sent:* Thursday, December 08, 2011 1:45 PM
 *Subject:* Re: I made a new toy today.

 Hello Bill
 I was going to buy a Genie garage door opener a few years back.The one I
 was looking at was a DC unit with a worm gear drive. It did not pan out,
 but I still think to could have worked.
 I still would like to get a speed control for my motor, but the way I
 look at it is, If this is made to push a person around all day long, then
 it should work out well on my Legacy,since its only going to be use every
 once in a while according to the job at hand.
 Bill can you remind me, You said something a while back,about using a
 corebox bit to turn a nice finish on a spindle? What size bit? and what was
 the purpose? roughing out or ...? Now that I too have a spindle motor drive
 I would like to explore any and or all possibilities, where getting a
 better finish on a turning is concerned.
 Thank you.
 C.A.G.

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 *Sent:* Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:04 PM
 *Subject:* Re: I made a new toy today.

 a great motor too if you can get one for our legacy's is a shop sliding
 door motor you know those electric doors on every shop and supermarket now
 I was going into a shop a few days ago and one was apart being repaired
 and I was talking to the repair man  its a 12volt dc motor geared slow and
 lots of grunt
 I bet it work really well on our machines provided you can get one of
 corse

 Bill






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 *To:* Legacy Google group Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, December 08, 2011 12:03 PM
 *Subject:* I made a new toy today.

 Hello Everyone.
 Today I finely finished my spindle motor drive unit.And I did it somewhat
 differently than what everyone else has already done.
 instead of hooking up the spindle drive into the head stock, I used the
 tail stock side instead.
 My reasons were many for doing it this way, but in a nut shell the
 biggest reason I did what I did was, I just could not get the materials to
 make the motor
 and the trencher gears,work on every position the Legacy could be moved
 to. So instead of going through the front door, I went through the back
 door instead. ;-)

 The motor is a 12 volt DC wheel chair motor. I used a 2 1/2 riser clamp
 to hold the motor, two 5/16x4 carriage bolts and some knobs to adjust the
 motor onto the Legacy
 tail stock.
 The gears and the chain are form an Audi timing system (car parts)
 the tail stock live center is a $20.00 jet live center (on sale at
 Rockler)
 All that I had to do was to boar out the gear to mate up to the live
 center, then cut and wield the drive gear hub onto the live center. and it
 was done! ;-)
 O I did have to take apart the chain and shorten it a bit as well.But
 any kid who has worked on a bike can do  that. (and I've done my share of
 that in the past.) ;-)
 Please let me know what you think?
 C.A.G.

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Re: christmas ornament

[James Edgell]

i have some pics somewhere of a hollow ball i made with a three inch ball
maker bit and a quarter inch uppercut spiral. it was suprisingly simple for
something i thought of and does look like a christmas ball.

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Ron Taylor rontaylor1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Bill,
 Don't underestimate your efforts, it seems to be an excellent ornament to
 me and a fun project for any of us to attempt. I know how you may feel
 about your ability and how it may be received by the legacy group, Ive
 been there buddy and found that the guys are anxious to see their
 contempory's efforts and really appreciate the info received. We are a
 group of friends and I've decided to approach them as I would a group of
 guys I knew from a local bar, friendly, interested, and really keen to
 learn from a friend's experience. I now feel keen to share my experiences
 with my friends and get their feedback, as I know it is not just critical
 but supportive. At some time in the future it would be really great for us
 to get together at some venue that minimises the costs to us all, but until
 then lets all be open and just be supportive, I really look forward to
 seeing some of the guys face to face.
 Best wishes to you all for a merry Christmas and a Happy New Year,
 Ron.


 On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.auwrote:

 **
 a while ago Tim posted that we should do another Christmas ornament this
 year.
 well I been fooling around with templates and cutting from the side with
 small bits with my revo so this might qualify 
 **http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=trct=jq=qualify%20nowsource=webcd=1sqi=2ved=0CBwQFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qualifynow.com.au%2Fei=Yz3hTpCwM8LQmAWB35T7BAusg=AFQjCNHjUoQvpCePEY19jWNO94Mgv0P5XAsig2=fb8amKoKVCw5nkhcoR3Ihw

 I found a pic of this strange looking ornament so I had a go at making it
 on the legacy and to make it even harder I tried it using a long series 1/8
 spiral bit I found in a shop over here.  the success was not as good as I
 had hoped for and I had a quite a bit of dermal and file work and a repair
 to one of the little posts. its a bit rough but you can get the idea if I
 ever did another it might come out better anyway this is it

 many small passes and rotating it 4 times for each side I came up with
 this. the wood is flame elder sorry I didn't take any pics during machining
 as I didn't think it would work out at all
 Bill

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Re: Interesting Turning Club Article on Legacy Machine

[James Edgell]

i make a variety of things, sometimes the legacy is my prefered tool,
sometimes even though it may do the job i use another tool because it will
do the job as well as or better than the legacy for me, i guess it depends
on the person, i like learning new things so i am always open to
suggestions.

On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:

 in my years of being a fitter and turner if I could only work and did only
 work one machine say a center lathe instead of millers, borers, shapers,
 grinders, dills, slotters to mention just a few I would not have been
 imployed, you had to use what machine was needed  to do the job
 my philosophy is you must be a multiskilled woodworker and get with the
 times apart from anything else its damm fun to try all this different
 woodwork  stuff. if a job needs to be done in a lathe  then do it, if it
 needs to be done on the legacy then do that, if it needs to be done on cnc
 then use that provided you can afford one lolol and if you still cant do it
 then invent a way of doing it and who cares if others dont like it.that's
 what I do anyway it keep your mind active

 Bill





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 Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:03 PM
 Subject: Re: Interesting Turning Club Article on Legacy Machine



 Ron,

 That's a great story.  I've seen people stuck in their ways, but never
 at such a great price.  One of the reasons I like cnc is that it will
 allow an individual a good chance of being a truly independent and
 successful professional woodworker--something that has been impossible
 (with few exceptions) for the average woodworker for over 150 years.

 Begat

 On Dec 2, 6:13 pm, Ron Taylor rontaylor1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was the chief inspector for Westland Helicopters hydraulics division for
 about 10 years. This particular division had been owned by a turner and
 sold to Westland after about 20 years of trading and it was almost
 unbelievable the extent to which plans and jigs had been made in order to
 allow the products to be manufactured on a lathe!! After about 1 year,
 product planning and manufacturing processes had been modified to accept
 other more suitable manufacturing methods. This makes me aware of how a
 turner (or perhaps any other machinist) may be driven to make products in
 a
 way that may represent the one discipline that they are most familiar
 with.
 I can only say that I believe we should be open to changes, updates and
 improvements to our disciplines and not to be hidebound by that to which
 we
 are most familiar. Change may be difficult to accept, or it may be
 something we can't afford, but I believe we should all be open to change
 and try to enjoy the fact that the next generation of woodworkers may have
 many methods not open to ourselves. Lets all enjoy our hobbies and
 businesses and learn all we can of the new disciplines as they arrive just
 for the fun of it.. That's my 5 cents for what it's worth.
 Ron.

 On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 3:45 PM, begatbrown darylmichaelsc...@gmail.com*
 *wrote:







  Hello,

  Now, that's something I did not understand. So most people turn
  primarily for pleasure? Now, I do understand this better.

  I have seen bowls and vases that are absolute pieces of art, and I can
  see people who want to do everything with a single device and one they
  can more easily afford. Okay.

  Begat

  On Dec 2, 3:54 pm, Myck Rych mckrc...@gmail.com wrote:
   Turners seem to be purists. I am a turner  am not. I use the tool 
  that
   best does what I want to achieve. I have a 900 and that is enuf for 
  me. I
   think it was worth the $$. Most turners do not, as they want quick
  projects
   and make it from a blown down tree. I sold my turnings for 25 yrs  
  the
   mill made my work stand out. Most folks don't sell. They give away to
   family  friends. So the cost of a mill seems very very high to them.

   On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 12:19 PM, begatbrown   
 darylmichaelsc...@gmail.com
  wrote:

Why anyone who does woodworking with a power tool has a problem with
an ornamental mill is beyond me. I do get why folks who do
traditional turning can look down on the lack of physical risk  
  taking
with ornamental mill users just as airplane pilots who fly without
wind shields can think less of those who pilot planes with   
 windshields
and jet engines.

Limitations notwithstanding, the ability to turn stock AND work flat
stock makes ornamental mills worth the while. One of the reasons I
to
replace my 900 with an 1800 is that it is a eight-foot overhead  
  router
as well as a column maker. Anyone who has less than an 8 inch   
 jointer
should want a legacy for jointing alone. With a 8inch costing   
 between
$2K and $3K, a legacy is a deal. I have surfaced 10 

Re: 15 Foot Legacy Mill for 6K with a $2.5K Columbo Spindle

[james edgell]

i am doing solid wood columns, the weight in the middle at 8 foot long isnt
a problem except when i try to do hollow spirals, it sags then, that why i
built the support i built, i will have to get pics of it, but when doing
big wood work, long spans always sag , i do alot of framing is the final
look of the product construction, big beams for the ridge, rafters, and
walls. like on the 4 x 8 rafters i put up even when you crown them thay
will sag in distances over 12 to 14 foot, that would be the problem i would
forsee when doing a solid wood column 15 foot long. it would be nice to
have a shot at it though, wood is easy for me to come by here in bama, i
have a saw mill less than a half mile from the house and another in
greenville i get wood from. the prices are great and i always get the
center cut for my beams. i hope that explains it a little better, my
terminology is different from you alls because of my back ground in framing
i would guess?



On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Daryl Scott darylmichaelsc...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello James,

 I'm would have thought that an 1800 would have been able to do a eight
 foot hollow column without additional supports.  If I understand you, the
 issue comes from the wood, not the strength of the machine.  If that is the
 case, would gluing an octagon at the halfway point work to keep the wood
 from sagging?  I have a model 900, so I've never encountered this problem.

 Begat


 On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 12:20 AM, james edgell jdm...@gmail.com wrote:

 i have a 1800, and did a 5 foot 4 inch  long and 8 inch diameter hollow
 column one time, it sagged so i built a mid roller support for it, it
 worked ok but you had to go real slow, wood sags alot it would need a
 middle support to do a good piece of work, i do 8 foot x 8 inch diameter
 solumns now and have to alot time to do the complete turn in one day so the
 wood dosent change it plane through natural warpage before i get done, 15
 foot would be a longshot but i would like to have a couple of mounths with
 that beheamouth, i like a challange!


 On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.netwrote:

 I believe the machine can do up to 13 in diameter.  Does anyone know
 what
 the weight of a log that's 15' long and 13 in diameter would weigh?
  Even a
 hollow column has to be pretty heavy at that size.  It makes me wonder if
 Legacy ever mentioned any weight restrictions on their machine.  I've
 never
 seen any limits mentioned.

 -Tim




 - Original Message -
 From: begatbrown darylmichaelsc...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 7:24 PM
 Subject: Re: 15 Foot Legacy Mill for 6K with a $2.5K Columbo Spindle


 Hello,

 I also thought the swing diameter was incorrect.  If I lived in the
 area, I would drive buy just to see it.

 Begat

 On Nov 14, 8:54 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:
  This one just might really be a custom built machine like the ad says.
 The
 2200 did have a 8 hp Colombo spindle. It also came with the extra 1/4 hp
 motor for separate spindle drive which this machine has. What seems a
 little
 off on this machine is the capacity (only 10?). It should be a larger
 diameter and the length should be shorter length than what they are
 saying
 judging by the number of legs and panels I'm seeing. I'm also not seeing
 the
 4x gear set that would have came with these machines. It's still a great
 price if you need a monster.
 
  -Tim
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: CURTIS GEORGE
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 10:58 AM
  Subject: Re: 15 Foot Legacy Mill for 6K with a $2.5K Columbo Spindle
 
  Wow what a machine!!!
 
  If Im not mistaken that is the 2200. For $6000.00 that is a very good
 deal.
 
  I realy wish I had to space for that monster. thank for the Heads-Up.
 Beg...
 
  That's the kind of stuff Dreams are made out of. ;-)
 
  C.A.G.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: begatbrown darylmichaelsc...@gmail.com
  To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 11:35:02 AM
  Subject: 15 Foot Legacy Mill for 6K with a $2.5K Columbo Spindle
 
  Hello All,
 
  Here's a link for a ebay classified ad for a 15 Foot--yes, 180 inches--
  capacity custom ornamental mill. It also has a 7.5 hp columbo spindle
  included in the price. Now that's worth 6K!!! The link:
  http://kansascity.ebayclassifieds.com/business-industrial/olathe/15-f.
 ..
 
  Tim, you can add this one to your ornamental mill photo collection!!
 
  Begat
 
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Re: 15 Foot Legacy Mill for 6K with a $2.5K Columbo Spindle

[james edgell]

i have a 1800, and did a 5 foot 4 inch  long and 8 inch diameter hollow
column one time, it sagged so i built a mid roller support for it, it
worked ok but you had to go real slow, wood sags alot it would need a
middle support to do a good piece of work, i do 8 foot x 8 inch diameter
solumns now and have to alot time to do the complete turn in one day so the
wood dosent change it plane through natural warpage before i get done, 15
foot would be a longshot but i would like to have a couple of mounths with
that beheamouth, i like a challange!

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:

 I believe the machine can do up to 13 in diameter.  Does anyone know what
 the weight of a log that's 15' long and 13 in diameter would weigh?  Even
 a
 hollow column has to be pretty heavy at that size.  It makes me wonder if
 Legacy ever mentioned any weight restrictions on their machine.  I've never
 seen any limits mentioned.

 -Tim




 - Original Message -
 From: begatbrown darylmichaelsc...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 7:24 PM
 Subject: Re: 15 Foot Legacy Mill for 6K with a $2.5K Columbo Spindle


 Hello,

 I also thought the swing diameter was incorrect.  If I lived in the
 area, I would drive buy just to see it.

 Begat

 On Nov 14, 8:54 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:
  This one just might really be a custom built machine like the ad says.
 The
 2200 did have a 8 hp Colombo spindle. It also came with the extra 1/4 hp
 motor for separate spindle drive which this machine has. What seems a
 little
 off on this machine is the capacity (only 10?). It should be a larger
 diameter and the length should be shorter length than what they are saying
 judging by the number of legs and panels I'm seeing. I'm also not seeing
 the
 4x gear set that would have came with these machines. It's still a great
 price if you need a monster.
 
  -Tim
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: CURTIS GEORGE
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 10:58 AM
  Subject: Re: 15 Foot Legacy Mill for 6K with a $2.5K Columbo Spindle
 
  Wow what a machine!!!
 
  If Im not mistaken that is the 2200. For $6000.00 that is a very good
 deal.
 
  I realy wish I had to space for that monster. thank for the Heads-Up.
 Beg...
 
  That's the kind of stuff Dreams are made out of. ;-)
 
  C.A.G.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: begatbrown darylmichaelsc...@gmail.com
  To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 11:35:02 AM
  Subject: 15 Foot Legacy Mill for 6K with a $2.5K Columbo Spindle
 
  Hello All,
 
  Here's a link for a ebay classified ad for a 15 Foot--yes, 180 inches--
  capacity custom ornamental mill. It also has a 7.5 hp columbo spindle
  included in the price. Now that's worth 6K!!! The link:
  http://kansascity.ebayclassifieds.com/business-industrial/olathe/15-f...
 
  Tim, you can add this one to your ornamental mill photo collection!!
 
  Begat
 
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