RE: 2006 LOM Model 1200
So for my Thursday, I sent out the email to the group to see if anyone maybe had any Rail Leg bases. I also called some shops to see if they could be made. I got a message from Tim in Oregon that he could make them for me, which sounded good, but they wouldn't be anodized like the originals. That was not an issue really, but the amount of time it would take for the project (Just the addition of shipping, designing, making parts, then shipping again) seemed daunting. Then I got an email from Tim in NYC and lo and behold he has a full set available! Funds are on the way and I am looking forward to contnuing the build with original parts as soon as I get them! The job shops I contacted did return my requests to make the parts but I simply told them I had found what I needed. One of the things I did enjoy from this "side trip" was some very enjoyable discussions, namely, With Tim from Oregon and Joseph from NYC. Those conversations gave the day some bright spots. So I will pick up this story as I continue with the build. Ryan Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 8:10 PM, rtjurg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Ok everyone. Could we all do each other a favor? This email chain with the header "2006 LOM Model 1200" was for the specific purpose of documenting the build of this "new" model 1200 LOM and the steps involved in the process. However, suddenly another machine was advertised in the thread and now a side discussion about channel has been added. If we have other topics to discuss, shouldn't we start another separate email thread instead of clicking "reply" and then talking about something unrelated? Just a thought. Ryan Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 7:53 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: #yiv4099970889 -- filtered {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}#yiv4099970889 filtered {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv4099970889 filtered {font-family:UI;panose-1:2 11 5 2 4 2 4 2 2 3;}#yiv4099970889 filtered {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv4099970889 p.yiv4099970889MsoNormal, #yiv4099970889 li.yiv4099970889MsoNormal, #yiv4099970889 div.yiv4099970889MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New serif;}#yiv4099970889 a:link, #yiv4099970889 span.yiv4099970889MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4099970889 a:visited, #yiv4099970889 span.yiv4099970889MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4099970889 p.yiv4099970889msonormal0, #yiv4099970889 li.yiv4099970889msonormal0, #yiv4099970889 div.yiv4099970889msonormal0 {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New serif;}#yiv4099970889 p.yiv4099970889msonormal0, #yiv4099970889 li.yiv4099970889msonormal0, #yiv4099970889 div.yiv4099970889msonormal0 {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New serif;}#yiv4099970889 p.yiv4099970889msonormal, #yiv4099970889 li.yiv4099970889msonormal, #yiv4099970889 div.yiv4099970889msonormal {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New serif;}#yiv4099970889 p.yiv4099970889msochpdefault, #yiv4099970889 li.yiv4099970889msochpdefault, #yiv4099970889 div.yiv4099970889msochpdefault {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New serif;}#yiv4099970889 p.yiv4099970889msonormal1, #yiv4099970889 li.yiv4099970889msonormal1, #yiv4099970889 div.yiv4099970889msonormal1 {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv4099970889 p.yiv4099970889msonormal01, #yiv4099970889 li.yiv4099970889msonormal01, #yiv4099970889 div.yiv4099970889msonormal01 {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv4099970889 p.yiv4099970889msochpdefault1, #yiv4099970889 li.yiv4099970889msochpdefault1, #yiv4099970889 div.yiv4099970889msochpdefault1 {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv4099970889 span.yiv4099970889msohyperlink {}#yiv4099970889 span.yiv4099970889msohyperlinkfollowed {}#yiv4099970889 span.yiv4099970889emailstyle19 {}#yiv4099970889 span.yiv4099970889msohyperlink1 {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4099970889 span.yiv4099970889msohyperlinkfollowed1 {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4099970889 span.yiv4099970889emailstyle191 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv4099970889 span.yiv4099970889EmailStyle30 {font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;}#yiv4099970889 span.yiv4099970889EmailStyle31 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv4099970889 span.yiv4099970889EmailStyle32 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv4099970889 span.yiv4099970889EmailStyle35 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv4099970889 .yiv4099970889MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;}#yiv4099970889 filtered {margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}#yiv4099970889 div.yiv4099970889WordSection1 {}#yiv4099970889 I
RE: 2006 LOM Model 1200
oups.com Subject: Re: 2006 LOM Model 1200 A company named 80/20 made the extrusions. I ordered direct from them when I built my CNC. Google them. https://8020.net/?SID=3otd4ufi50dep78k126qpab4n5 I also have a complete 1200 never used. Built with many bits and motor drive. 6500.00 if am selling for 2500.00. Locate Topeka, Kansas. Sent from my iPhone Brad On Oct 30, 2019, at 10:41 PM, Ryan Jurgens wrote: Well, I guess I had to take the day off from putting my LOM together. When I opened and unpacked all the boxes, I was very careful to keep everything sorted and in clear order. (My first email with photo’s shows my parts as unpacked.) If you look at my first picture showing all the parts, you will notice in the lower left the head and tailstock, then the two elevation pieces, and then a single Rail Leg Base. There is only one in the box, but there is supposed to be four. I called Legacy this morning and talked to Cindy in parts, they do not have those in stock anymore and have no way to make them. She commented that back in those days they had new people and that sometimes happened. She said I could maybe contact a sheet metal manufacturer and have them made, or reach out to a group and see if anyone had a set of them available. So right now I am dead in the water, I can’t assemble the next portion of my LOM. Does anyone have any of those Rail Leg Pieces? The 1200 and 1800 used the same parts. In the instruction manual dated 02/2006 the part is listed on page 30, and there is a picture in my previous email. Keeping my fingers crossed . . . Ryan From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of rtjurg...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 5:51 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: 2006 LOM Model 1200 I spent 20 years writing technical IT manuals, in addition to purchasing a whole lot of machines and furniture pieces and you are all correct. Read carefully and follow directions step by step. Even then a person may not catch everything right away. One thing is figuring out all the hardware bags. Took a bit to get that sorted out, but now pretty much on track with everything. For today I noted that it wasn't until step 3, putting the first two long rails on that they mentioned the direction to install the locking plates. I had them wrong so I quickly corrected them all. I had also heard about the long rails and the score line being outward, so that is a given for me. For today I have the base completed. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 4:25 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: All great advice follow those assembly directions and usually you can’t go wrong my only advice is make sure you have the rails the correct way round as said, its easy to get it wrong smooth sliding of the saddle depends on it, also fine adjustments after its assembled too don’t file the top hat Delrin slides unless absolutely necessary quite often tight saddles on the X and Y axis can be fixed by slight adjustments of the mills rails and such and finally have some dyna glide on hand and a little grease if there is none in the boxes Good luck half the fun is the assembly Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of rtjurg...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Wednesday, 30 October 2019 1:36 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: 2006 LOM Model 1200 The question one may have when receiving your new mill in all it's boxes is "where do I start?" For me it ended up being WHEN do I start?" So, I bought it in 2006, and here it is 2019. Now I ask the question, "Where do I start?" The question is obvious. Open the nine boxes. Pick one and open it, then pick a second one and open it, repeat. I will keep doing that until done. I will document the whole process Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/190349239.1691296.1572359784515%40mail.yahoo.com. | | Virus-free. www.avast.com | -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000501d58e9f%246aea6c70%2440bf4550%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To un
RE: Evolution Ornamental Mill
Perhaps making the machine a standard 48"? Try to start out with a single model that serves 80% of the wishes? And then have upgradability? And perhaps designing the machine with the ability to be shipped flat pack. Not a welded frame but an assembled frame with the same capabilities. Thus the shipping would be more feasible? Ryan Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 4:34 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: #yiv2446527021 #yiv2446527021 -- _filtered #yiv2446527021 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv2446527021 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv2446527021 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv2446527021 {panose-1:2 11 5 2 4 2 4 2 2 3;}#yiv2446527021 #yiv2446527021 p.yiv2446527021MsoNormal, #yiv2446527021 li.yiv2446527021MsoNormal, #yiv2446527021 div.yiv2446527021MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv2446527021 a:link, #yiv2446527021 span.yiv2446527021MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2446527021 a:visited, #yiv2446527021 span.yiv2446527021MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2446527021 p.yiv2446527021msonormal0, #yiv2446527021 li.yiv2446527021msonormal0, #yiv2446527021 div.yiv2446527021msonormal0 {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv2446527021 span.yiv2446527021EmailStyle20 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv2446527021 .yiv2446527021MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv2446527021 {margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}#yiv2446527021 div.yiv2446527021WordSection1 {}#yiv2446527021 Only one alteration I would suggest roger, 40 inches between centres not 36, being a revo owner, many times I needed that couple of inches longer and didn’t have it. which is why I put longer rails on my revo. even if it’s just the 40 inches on the aluminium rail for the tails stock just to hold that bit longer jobs that then would not increase your $2000 price too much only a couple of dollars. The evo needs more movement on the routers axis’s too but nothing that couldn’t done later after you receive your mill. I think even legacy’s rotary table could be added to the evo definitely great possibilities for that mill. Sad they stopped making it. The only downer I think will kill it is shipping not being able to ship it flat pack and shipping it assembled will make the shipping too expensive to afford. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Bawdsey64 Sent: Monday, 21 October 2019 4:49 AM To: rtjurg...@gmail.com; Legacy Group Subject: Re: Evolution Ornamental Mill Hi Ryan The answer is that some have considered this. The question is will it sell, personally I am of the opinion there is a market but the question is what length and diameter would people want, is it to be manually operated or electric and then you get into conventional electric motors or steppers. All these things effect the price and in this Legacy group how many bought their machines new and paid the Legacy price and how many went down the secondhand market route? I have given it many hours thought and think the first version should be 36" between centres and 12" diameter and driven by stepper motors. Price with router or 1/2" collet air cooled spindle around $2,000.00 to $2,500.00. Any thoughts or comments folk, and by the way I am happy to talk with Andy about whether he would be happy. Cheers Roger From: rtjurg...@gmail.com Received: 20/10/2019 18:20:20 +01:00 To: legacy-ornamental-mi...@googllegacygroups.com I sometimes wonder what the current market would bear if someone were to get Legacy's pemission to build and market a manual machine like the LOM Evolution. With them being 100% CNC now, would they consider it? With all the experience that this group has, perhaps an (almost) all encompassing machine could be produced that does most everything desired up to a realistic point. Hmmm. Ryan Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 11:37 AM, Bawdsey64 wrote: Hi Dustin As Curt says Legacy dropped all their manual machines from their business line-up and went 100% CNC. I am afraid he is wrong in on one point, it was not to follow the money as he states, but to survive in business and keep paying the members of staff at Legacy. That is called doing what you have to do to survive in business when your traditional market dries up. Legacy's main customer base was the hobbyist market and at that time there was a recession on so guess what, most of Legacy's customers disappeared so CNC was the correct decision for them. The reason I know this was that I was selling Legacy machines into the UK and some of Europe and sales went down the pan about 6 months after the US. Yes, The Evolution would have been a good machine, I would love to have one along
RE: Old posts - w/Wayback Machine Link
Loved that lunk!! In the add it linked to the trade shows. The Milwaukee trade show of 2005 is where I say the 1200 LOM live the first time.I saw it again in 2006, and then while in Utah on business I bought mine. I still have it in the original boxez!! One day soon . . . Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 5:46 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: #yiv5054655998 #yiv5054655998 -- _filtered #yiv5054655998 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv5054655998 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv5054655998 {font-family:UI;panose-1:2 11 5 2 4 2 4 2 2 3;}#yiv5054655998 #yiv5054655998 p.yiv5054655998MsoNormal, #yiv5054655998 li.yiv5054655998MsoNormal, #yiv5054655998 div.yiv5054655998MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv5054655998 a:link, #yiv5054655998 span.yiv5054655998MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv5054655998 a:visited, #yiv5054655998 span.yiv5054655998MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv5054655998 p.yiv5054655998msonormal0, #yiv5054655998 li.yiv5054655998msonormal0, #yiv5054655998 div.yiv5054655998msonormal0 {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv5054655998 span.yiv5054655998EmailStyle19 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv5054655998 span.yiv5054655998EmailStyle20 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv5054655998 span.yiv5054655998EmailStyle21 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv5054655998 span.yiv5054655998EmailStyle23 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv5054655998 .yiv5054655998MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv5054655998 {margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}#yiv5054655998 div.yiv5054655998WordSection1 {}#yiv5054655998 Pretty much the same link mac Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of MWF Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2019 4:37 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Old posts - w/Wayback Machine Link Bill, Thanks - however, the link you posted did not work for me. I did some "poking around" on the WayBack site and found this link worked: Legacy Mills pages/postings Enjoy! Mac -Original Message- From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au Sent: Aug 13, 2019 11:56 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Old posts Ha ha ha ha yea I’ve come across that sight too searching. Here’s a ligit link to some old legacy stuff click on the year and then on the blue dots some things work some don’t but its fun to see the old legacy site again. http://web.archive.org/web/2005030100*/http://www.legacywoodworking.com/ Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Ray Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2019 1:47 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Old posts You would be surprised how much is out there – a lot of which isn’t in this group. There is a Legacy Ornamental Mill – which is used to crush rocks for example. Always coming up in my searches – surprised they are allowed to use the name. https://www.piccolomini-inn.it/2004/Nov/07_23355.html Ray From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 4:10 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Old posts Good one Richard great reading all the old posts again brings back some memories. We all should surf the archives from time to time to see how much we’ve forgotten lolol Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1659581893.5736.1565721445909%40wamui-berry.atl.sa.earthlink.net. | | Virus-free. www.avast.com | -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000e01d55228%24e415a190%24ac40e4b0%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/2091780269.3597074.1565738401140%40mail.yahoo.com.
RE: Not a new video,but one that is new to me
So I saw just one of those videos and I saw the rantings of someone who has no mechanical skill and especially no computer skills. The fact that he spoke about the Arty the way he did qiockly revealed that HE was the real problem, not the product. Having worked with Legacy since 2006, I am confident that the customer service they provide is nothing like what the video producer said. My takeaway conclusion to the video was pretty quickly reaced. It is an ID 10 T error. (Idiot) There are those kinds out there who love to show off their stupidity and seek pity from others like them. Ryan Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 4:53 AM, Bill Bulkeley wrote: No offence and no bad feelings my skin is waythicker than that so all good my end Bill From:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MWF Sent: Thursday, 4 July 2019 11:00AM To:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Not a new video,butone that is new to me Bill, Not a problem. I certainly was notmeaning to make you feel bad for posting it. In fact, it was probably a"good thing" - in that I learned there are folks out there that havea LOT of free time on thier hands - and, unfirtunately do not use it todo constructive/nice things with it. Thanks you for your comments back in anycase. I did not mean to imply any bad feelings towards you ORCurtis. Cheers! Mac -Original Message- From: Bill Bulkeley Sent: Jul 3, 2019 5:40 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Not a new video,but one that is new to me I agree mac just, becauseI posted the link it doesn’t mean I agree with it everyone has a right to theiropinion the video in no way is mine feel free to delete it all. it was only tosee if it was what Richard found in hind sight perhaps I should not have youwill not hear another word about it from me. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MWF Sent: Thursday, 4 July 2019 3:28AM To:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Not a new video,butone that is new to me Curtis, Bill, and All others, Curtis - I watched the one you providedthe link to (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t74r8dlseQ=13s)- and WOW!!! WHAT A WASTE OF MY TIME! Afterseeing Curtis' Bill, I clicked on your link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oZ_GsOBqnY)and realized the video was going to be another by the same guy in Curtis'link. Needless to say, is immediately exited out from that link - withoutclicking his "play" button! I wasn't about to watch more of his"bull shoes"! If anyone reading this has NOT watchedeither of the videos Curtis & Bill referenced, I HIGHLY recommend you DON'TWASTE YOUR TIME doing so. The author owns THREE Legacy CNCs - and herants about how bad they are. Even a chimpanzee learns from their mistakesafter two! I consider this author a TRUE TROLL - withnothing better to do than produce a couple crappy, negative videos and hope toget paid by U-Tube when he gets folks to watch them! I also request all Group Members to notcontinue any further discussion of this Troll's keyboard vomit - and for themoderator to remove the discussions to date from the files as well. We ALL have better things going on in ourlives that we should be grateful for - and we need to share them - NOT thatbonehead's manure. I wish all Group Members in America a Safeand Fun-filled Independence Day Holiday and weekend! May God continue to Bless America! Mac -Original Message- From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Jul 3, 2019 10:06 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Not a new video,but one that is new to me Billthis guy has some very BAD videos,( Which I find funny. but they are no jokingmatter.) I am surprised that Legacy has not had some kind of legal slandersuite with this guy. Thisvideo was the first that I saw ( a while back) The others he made aremuch funner, I like the Robo-cop video. ;-p https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t74r8dlseQ=13s talkto you all more later. Havea good day. C.A.G. OnWednesday, July 3, 2019, 08:40:17 AM EDT, Bill Bulkeley wrote: I betit was this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oZ_GsOBqnY Bill From:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Richard Ellis Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2019 9:45PM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Not a new video,butone that is new to me It is meagain about this video that Curt has put on Every time Iclick on the video and move it to the finish a different video come up I havedone it 5 times and have not seen the video about Legacy again. It was allabout his experience withLegacy Richard
Re: legacy like
If I could comment here . . . the LOM was in a sense designed to do certain "types" of tasks, and as Legacy made each version better in the form of the invention, it was still (in my silly opinion) to accomplish those specific forms of tasks. It appears that some way wish to increase the length and width of the LOM capacity, while still "doing the same type of tasks". Then there seems to be some that may wish to do additional other tasks . . . tasks that perhaps (maybe) might just be easier to do on machines designed for that type of task. (Mortices come to mind). I know we all have shop and budget limitations, but when I think about the value of time and efficiency of completing things, I take into account what each machine can do, even if my personal creativity extends what I do on various machines. The real takeout for me is that I just plain enjoy taking a set of rough boards and creating something out of it in as easy and efficient (and beautiful) means as possible. LOM is a part of my resources of available tools to accomplish that end. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 12:39 PM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: hey guys!... some bullet points to consider in regards to possibly retrofitting the Woodpecker aluminum rail extrusion to a Legacy... first, the price.. it seems the railing is coming in at $20 per foot... the router sled looks to be about $200... a sizable investment to begin... next, the modifications... the bottom of the rails would need some kind of adapter so the rail could attach to the top of the Legacy "legs"(the vertical pieces)… a modification would need to be made to the lead screw split nut, since it would no longer be in alignment with the lead screw... the lead screw on the Y axis would need a lot of modification to re-work it to the new router carriage... also, as mentioned, some kind of mod is needed to keep the router sled from rising up off the X axis rails when traversing left to right, to a tight tolerance so that the Y axis sled doesn't rise up at all!... and doing all of that without the risk of it binding... this is a very difficult task to achieve!... then reworking some of the Legacy accessories, as necessary, to then work with the new rail design... those with the Z axis upgrade would have a number of mods to address as well, to adapt the Z tower to the new router sled... and I will save the best for last... Is this extrusion design commercially made?... if we are to assume that it is not, and it is proprietary to the Woodpecker company, as was the case with Legacy and their extrusion, then the risk is run that if Woodpecker discontinues this set-up, then the railing could be discontinued, and we are back to the same problem that currently exists... which, in my opinion, is the biggest reason not to consider using this design as a rail replacement... I believe there are two mods to consider to get additional Legacy railing... the first is to use the 80/20 rail to replace the Legacy bottom rails, which only serve a structural purpose... some creative work is necessary so the bottom of the Legacy "legs" can be attached to the 80/20, but that would seem to be easy enough... you then would have two, somewhat long pieces of Legacy railing to play with... the second option is to add 80/20 to your Legacy machine(specifically the bottom AND top rails) and add a linear bearing setup to compensate that the black top hats would now not be usable... this option is a bit extreme, somewhat costly, but forever puts this problem to rest... with the added bonus of having the Legacy running on ball bearings... just some thoughts and my input on this topic... thanks for the read, if you made it this far!... LOL!... Joe B. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Make a "Split Nut" - & buying parts from Legacy
Wouldn't it be nice if some ingenious character worked with Legacy to obtain permission to begin manufacturing and selling parts they no longer provide? A niche business opportunity. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 8:40 AM, Bill Bulkeley wrote: #yiv9119649655 #yiv9119649655 -- _filtered #yiv9119649655 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv9119649655 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv9119649655 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv9119649655 #yiv9119649655 p.yiv9119649655MsoNormal, #yiv9119649655 li.yiv9119649655MsoNormal, #yiv9119649655 div.yiv9119649655MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New;}#yiv9119649655 a:link, #yiv9119649655 span.yiv9119649655MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9119649655 a:visited, #yiv9119649655 span.yiv9119649655MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9119649655 p {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New;}#yiv9119649655 span.yiv9119649655EmailStyle18 {color:windowtext;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}#yiv9119649655 .yiv9119649655MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv9119649655 {margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}#yiv9119649655 div.yiv9119649655Section1 {}#yiv9119649655 Legacy doesn’t tell us everything and whenyou open your package and see your order then you got it. stuff for the oldmills is getting harder and harder to get. I been waiting years for a ballbearing head stock for my mill I ordered from them. as legacy states they nolonger support or supply anything to do with the old mills so any thing you canget from them I feel is a bonus and probably old stock left over from theirmanual mill days Bill From:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 20191:13 AM To:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Make a "SplitNut" - & buying parts from Legacy Thanks Bill I am only going by what Cindy shared with me? Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 8:07 AM Bill Bulkeley wrote: Legacyrail has 2 wide grooves and 2 narrow grooves 80-20 has all narrow grooves ifthere’s a legacy rail there please post a link to it I would love to see it. Ibelieve Legacy had their rails made exclusively for them only and not too thegeneral public so you had to buy only from them then they went cnc and changedrail type to a more common more available one. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 201912:25 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Make a "SplitNut" - & buying parts from Legacy Good morningall, As promised Being fairly newon this I did a lot of digging as I did not want to jump in with out firstknowing more about components, andtheir availability. Even when I went after the predecessor the WC I dug untilmy head hurt. (Mike Pung and I had many discussions.) Later joining theforum I got to know Curtis George. I had many more discussions with CurtisGeorge. Thanks again for so much support Curt & Mike. So once I foundthe 1200 LOM and talked to Cindy from LOM, extensively she gave me thecompany's name of where we can still get rails etc... I'm not exactlysure how to verify the rail style as you mentioned some are different thenothers. So the company is80-20 inc. web site is www.80-20inc.com https://8020.net 844-802-0932 phone servi...@80-20inc.com Big boys dreamfrom what I can see. You can even buy it by the foot so in my case I'm going tomake the small piece support for running narrow moulding. Hope this helpssomeone. Kindregards, Tim of ZWWS Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork& Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Tue, Feb 5,2019 at 1:28 AM Bill Bulkeley wrote: Ithought the aluminium legacy rails for the manual mills were discontinued beingmade. On some of the cnc mills the rail is different Whenlooking make sure it’s the rail you want and not something just similar. if ittruly is the old legacy rail I’m sure many here would be interested in where itcan be purchased. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Leaman Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 20192:44 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Make a "SplitNut" - & buying parts from Legacy Thanks much. This is very helpful. If not too much of an imposition l could use yourreference on the aluminum
RE: ID My Mill?
I have seen the laser cutting equipment at Legacy. It wonder if they could be convinced to knock out a few gears sets if enough people needed them?? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 2:25 PM, Bill Bulkeley wrote: #yiv6109451211 #yiv6109451211 -- _filtered #yiv6109451211 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv6109451211 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv6109451211 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv6109451211 #yiv6109451211 p.yiv6109451211MsoNormal, #yiv6109451211 li.yiv6109451211MsoNormal, #yiv6109451211 div.yiv6109451211MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New;}#yiv6109451211 a:link, #yiv6109451211 span.yiv6109451211MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6109451211 a:visited, #yiv6109451211 span.yiv6109451211MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6109451211 p {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New;}#yiv6109451211 p.yiv6109451211m-4849461225606747779m2511572681884874281gmail-m-3346354527573862416gmail-m-2430574416515473153gmail-m-6442768902043753848gmail-m8332832081841072237m2525423977309443539m2777544590403912189gmail-m1321089787901056803separator, #yiv6109451211 li.yiv6109451211m-4849461225606747779m2511572681884874281gmail-m-3346354527573862416gmail-m-2430574416515473153gmail-m-6442768902043753848gmail-m8332832081841072237m2525423977309443539m2777544590403912189gmail-m1321089787901056803separator, #yiv6109451211 div.yiv6109451211m-4849461225606747779m2511572681884874281gmail-m-3346354527573862416gmail-m-2430574416515473153gmail-m-6442768902043753848gmail-m8332832081841072237m2525423977309443539m2777544590403912189gmail-m1321089787901056803separator {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New;}#yiv6109451211 span.yiv6109451211EmailStyle19 {color:windowtext;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}#yiv6109451211 .yiv6109451211MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv6109451211 {margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}#yiv6109451211 div.yiv6109451211Section1 {}#yiv6109451211 I seriously doubt if legacy would have gearsyou will have to find a laser cutter somewhere and have them made you have thegears that are already on the mill as an example to show to get the tooth shapeof the gears. i think you had some on your mill didn’t you? Bill From:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Waters Sent: Sunday, 20 January 2019 1:27AM To:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ID My Mill? Hmm, I suspected as much. Are the gears interchangeable? Can i stillget them from legacy? On Sat, Jan 19, 2019, 8:07 AM Bill Bulkeley mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bulkeley Sent: Sunday, 20 January 201912:59 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: ID My Mill? Ifeverything you have is in the pics then you have a lot of gears missing you cansee them all in the pic i sent Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Waters Sent: Saturday, 19 January 201911:54 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ID My Mill? Everything I haveis in the pics. On Sat, Jan 19,2019, 5:44 AM Tim Ziegler wrote: Thanks Mike! I'll call tomorrow, after we get the pinewood derby car completed :) Tim, Here are picsof the head and tail stock. On Fri, Jan 18,2019 at 10:33 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) wrote: Welcometo the group Rick. And welcome to the WoodChuck family I have acrank handles for you, One for the drive as well as one for the shaft. Give me a call and I will see what else you may need and if I have it. MikeOK 405-650-0542 On 1/18/2019 9:28PM, Rick Waters wrote: Thanks Bill! That helps a lot. >From the picturesit looks like the split nut is connected by a steel or >aluminum arm, but is aplastic or urethane 'cup'? Thanks Tim! Yeah, that would be great if you could contact Mike! I'll call Legacy onTuesday. I have not lookedanything up on Youtube, but I will now. On Fri, Jan 18,2019 at 9:25 PM Tim Ziegler wrote: Rick, I am nottotally sure they will carry the crank. I know for sure they carry the splitnut lock. I will text MikePung and ask or have him respond to you too. He is the Wood ChuckMaster. No Legacy is upand running strong but deep into CNC equipment. They carry minimal partsfor the WoodChuck andthe Legacy Ornamental Mills or LOM's as most will refer too. Have you looked upany you tubes on the Wood Chuck yet? Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork& Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Fri, Jan 18,2019 at 8:30 PM Rick Waters wrote: Thanks Tim! No I
RE: New Members and Moderation
You may be correct I remember seeing a number of models listed, I am not sure which ones I am traveling in the Philippines right now, I return to US in early December. I will look then Sorry for my delay!Ryan Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Bill Bulkeley wrote: #yiv7028799635 #yiv7028799635 -- _filtered #yiv7028799635 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv7028799635 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv7028799635 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv7028799635 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv7028799635 #yiv7028799635 p.yiv7028799635MsoNormal, #yiv7028799635 li.yiv7028799635MsoNormal, #yiv7028799635 div.yiv7028799635MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New;}#yiv7028799635 a:link, #yiv7028799635 span.yiv7028799635MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7028799635 a:visited, #yiv7028799635 span.yiv7028799635MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7028799635 p {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New;}#yiv7028799635 span.yiv7028799635EmailStyle18 {color:windowtext;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}#yiv7028799635 .yiv7028799635MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv7028799635 {margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}#yiv7028799635 div.yiv7028799635Section1 {}#yiv7028799635 I always thought the 1200 manual included the200,900,1200,1800 and 2000 only If it does include a 800 may I have a copy aswell Bill From:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of rtjurg...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Tuesday, 6 November 20185:21 PM To:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New Members andModeration Hi Andrew! Bought myself a 1200 back in 2006 that is still in theboxes, and my assembly book I think includes the 800. I am ttaveling overseasat the moment, but when I get home on December 3 I will be working on my mill.I believe it might be a good thing if I convert my book to PDF!! Ryan Sentfrom Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue,Nov 6, 2018 at 1:05 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: Hello Andy I will look for any info that I can onyour unit. What I can find at this min. is thishistory link. https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html I hope it helps. I wish you luck on your projects. and Iam looking forward to hearing more abou them latter. Have a good night. C.A.G. OnMonday, November 5, 2018, 11:53:08 PM EST, Andrew Schwartz wrote: HelloEveryone: Myname is Andy and I'm a new member to the group. My first woodworking projectwas making a replica of a $3,000 pine TV armoire my wife wanted for our firstChristmas. As a young couple, it may have been $1 million. I made if for about$200 (don't tell her that!)., including the slide door hardware It wasstrong enough to house a 32 inch Sony TV, which I think weighed 450 lbs. :). Westill have it today. From there I built our living room side tables and coffeetable from cherry, raised panel waynes cotting (MDF) for the dining room, awindow seat (birch ply and maple face), and a library/cabinet/TV entertaimentcenter for my basement out of poor man's cherry (poplar). In 2003, I built myoldest daughter's "big girl bed" and drawer set out of maple. Ibought the Legacy 800 soon after hoping to make more creative pieces. But, aslife has it, my wife and I decided to make more babies instead, so I neveropend the boxes for the Legacy 800. Every year, life kept the boxesclosed...unitil yesterday. My wife wants a new kitchen island. I want to makehope chests for my three teenage girls, and I want my ten year old son to learnhow to build things. Afteropening up the parts box of the 800, I noticed this would be quite a project toset up. I searched for assembly directions, and couldn't find them (or theydisintegrated after 15 years). Ifound this group and hoped I could get (1)Assembly instructions for the 800 orsimilar mill (2) experienced help with an older legacy model (3)share my workwith like minded people. Thanksfor reading my intro. I look forward to participating in this group. Andy On Saturday, March 31, 2012 at 8:07:09 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote: Hello NewMembers, Thisis a reminder that until you post a message, your messages must beapproved by either an owner or moderators of this group to beposted. Google sends an automated message to the people thatare responsible for approving messages, but please be aware it can be avery long delay. Gettingoff the moderated list is easy as posting a message introducing yourself. Asking a question related to the equipment or posting a photo is always goodfor getting instant approval. I still believe this is a family friendlyplace so pl
Re: New Members and Moderation
Hi Andrew! Bought myself a 1200 back in 2006 that is still in the boxes, and my assembly book I think includes the 800. I am ttaveling overseas at the moment, but when I get home on December 3 I will be working on my mill. I believe it might be a good thing if I convert my book to PDF!! Ryan Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 1:05 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:Hello Andy I will look for any info that I can on your unit.What I can find at this min. is this history link.https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html I hope it helps. I wish you luck on your projects. and I am looking forward to hearing more abou themlatter.Have a good night. C.A.G. On Monday, November 5, 2018, 11:53:08 PM EST, Andrew Schwartz wrote: Hello Everyone: My name is Andy and I'm a new member to the group. My first woodworking project was making a replica of a $3,000 pine TV armoire my wife wanted for our first Christmas. As a young couple, it may have been $1 million. I made if for about $200 (don't tell her that!)., including the slide door hardware It was strong enough to house a 32 inch Sony TV, which I think weighed 450 lbs. :). We still have it today. From there I built our living room side tables and coffee table from cherry, raised panel waynes cotting (MDF) for the dining room, a window seat (birch ply and maple face), and a library/cabinet/TV entertaiment center for my basement out of poor man's cherry (poplar). In 2003, I built my oldest daughter's "big girl bed" and drawer set out of maple. I bought the Legacy 800 soon after hoping to make more creative pieces. But, as life has it, my wife and I decided to make more babies instead, so I never opend the boxes for the Legacy 800. Every year, life kept the boxes closed...unitil yesterday. My wife wants a new kitchen island. I want to make hope chests for my three teenage girls, and I want my ten year old son to learn how to build things. After opening up the parts box of the 800, I noticed this would be quite a project to set up. I searched for assembly directions, and couldn't find them (or they disintegrated after 15 years). I found this group and hoped I could get (1)Assembly instructions for the 800 or similar mill (2) experienced help with an older legacy model (3)share my work with like minded people. Thanks for reading my intro. I look forward to participating in this group. Andy On Saturday, March 31, 2012 at 8:07:09 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote: Hello New Members, This is a reminder that until you post a message, your messages must be approved by either an owner or moderators of this group to be posted. Google sends an automated message to the people that are responsible for approving messages, but please be aware it can be a very long delay. Getting off the moderated list is easy as posting a message introducing yourself. Asking a question related to the equipment or posting a photo is always good for getting instant approval. I still believe this is a family friendly place so please don't be shy. As of today, there are 63 members that have joined since 2010 that have never posted a message. I sure would like to hear from them either here in this thread, or feel free to send me a note off the list so I can update your status. -Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.