RE: 2006 LOM Model 1200

2019-10-31 Thread rtjurg...@sbcglobal.net
So for my Thursday, I sent out the email to the group to see if anyone maybe 
had any Rail Leg bases.
I also called some shops to see if they could be made. 
I got a message from Tim in Oregon that he could make them for me, which 
sounded good, but they wouldn't be anodized like the originals. That was not an 
issue really, but the amount of time it would take for the project (Just the 
addition of shipping, designing, making parts, then shipping again) seemed 
daunting.
Then I got an email from Tim in NYC and lo and behold he has a full set 
available!
Funds are on the way and I am looking forward to contnuing the build with 
original parts as soon as I get them!
The job shops I contacted did return my requests to make the parts but I simply 
told them I had found what I needed.
One of the things I did enjoy from this "side trip" was some very enjoyable 
discussions, namely, With Tim from Oregon and Joseph from NYC. Those 
conversations gave the day some bright spots.
So I will pick up this story as I continue with the build.
Ryan


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  On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 8:10 PM, 
rtjurg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:   Ok everyone. Could we 
all do each other a favor? This email chain with the header "2006 LOM Model 
1200" was for the specific purpose of documenting the build of this "new" model 
1200 LOM and the steps involved in the process. 
However, suddenly another machine was advertised in the thread and now a side 
discussion about channel has been added. 
If we have other topics to discuss, shouldn't we start another separate email 
thread instead of clicking "reply" and then talking about something unrelated?
Just a thought.
Ryan

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RE: 2006 LOM Model 1200

2019-10-31 Thread rtjurg...@sbcglobal.net
oups.com
Subject: Re: 2006 LOM Model 1200

 

A company named 80/20 made the extrusions. I ordered direct from them when I 
built my CNC. Google them. 

 

https://8020.net/?SID=3otd4ufi50dep78k126qpab4n5

 

I also have a complete 1200 never used. Built with many bits and motor drive. 
6500.00 if am selling for 2500.00. Locate Topeka, Kansas. 

Sent from my iPhone

Brad







On Oct 30, 2019, at 10:41 PM, Ryan Jurgens  wrote:





Well, I guess I had to take the day off from putting my LOM together.

 

When I opened and unpacked all the boxes, I was very careful to keep everything 
sorted and in clear order. (My first email with photo’s shows my parts as 
unpacked.)

 

If you look at my first picture showing all the parts, you will notice in the 
lower left the head and tailstock, then the two elevation pieces, and then a 
single Rail Leg Base. There is only one in the box, but there is supposed to be 
four. 

 

I called Legacy this morning and talked to Cindy in parts, they do not have 
those in stock anymore and have no way to make them. She commented that back in 
those days they had new people and that sometimes happened. She said I could 
maybe contact a sheet metal manufacturer and have them made, or reach out to a 
group and see if anyone had a set of them available.

 

So right now I am dead in the water, I can’t assemble the next portion of my 
LOM. 

 

Does anyone have any of those Rail Leg Pieces? The 1200 and 1800 used the same 
parts. In the instruction manual dated 02/2006 the part is listed on page 30, 
and there is a picture in my previous email.

 

Keeping my fingers crossed  . . . 

 

Ryan

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of rtjurg...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 5:51 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 2006 LOM Model 1200

 

I spent 20 years writing technical IT manuals, in addition to purchasing a 
whole lot of machines and furniture pieces and you are all correct. Read 
carefully and follow directions step by step. Even then a person may not catch 
everything right away.

 

One thing is figuring out all the hardware bags. Took a bit to get that sorted 
out, but now pretty much on track with everything.

 

For today I noted that it wasn't until step 3, putting the first two long rails 
on that they mentioned the direction to install the locking plates. I had them 
wrong so I quickly corrected them all.

 

I had also heard about the long rails and the score line being outward, so that 
is a given for me.

 

For today I have the base completed.









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On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 4:25 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au

 wrote:

All great advice follow those assembly directions and usually you can’t go 
wrong  my only advice is make sure you have the rails the correct way round as 
said, its easy to get it wrong  smooth sliding of the saddle depends on it, 
also fine adjustments after its assembled too don’t file the top hat Delrin 
slides unless absolutely necessary quite often tight saddles on the X and Y 
axis can be fixed by slight adjustments of the mills rails and such and finally 
have some dyna glide on hand and a little grease if there is none in the boxes 
Good luck half the fun is the assembly 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of rtjurg...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Wednesday, 30 October 2019 1:36 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: 2006 LOM Model 1200

 

The question one may have when receiving your new mill in all it's boxes is 
"where do I start?"

 

For me it ended up being WHEN do I start?"

 

So, I bought it in 2006, and here it is 2019.

 

Now I ask the question, "Where do I start?"

 

The question is obvious. Open the nine boxes. Pick one and open it, then pick a 
second one and open it, repeat.

 

I will keep doing that until done.

 

I will document the whole process



 

 

 

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RE: Evolution Ornamental Mill

2019-10-20 Thread rtjurg...@sbcglobal.net
Perhaps making the machine a standard 48"? Try to start out with a single model 
that serves 80% of the wishes? And then have upgradability?
And perhaps designing the machine with the ability to be shipped flat pack. Not 
a welded frame but an assembled frame with the same capabilities.
Thus the shipping would be more feasible?
Ryan

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Only one alteration I would suggest roger, 40 inches between centres not 36, 
being a revo owner, many times I needed that couple of inches longer and didn’t 
have it. which is why I put longer rails on my revo. even if it’s  just the 40 
inches on the aluminium rail for the tails stock just to hold that bit longer 
jobs that then would not increase your $2000 price too much only a couple of 
dollars. The evo needs more movement on the routers axis’s too but nothing that 
couldn’t done later after you receive your mill. I think even legacy’s rotary 
table could be added to the evo  definitely great possibilities for that mill. 
Sad they stopped making it. The only downer I think will kill it is shipping 
not being able to ship it flat pack and shipping it assembled will make the 
shipping  too expensive to afford.

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Bawdsey64
Sent: Monday, 21 October 2019 4:49 AM
To: rtjurg...@gmail.com; Legacy Group 
Subject: Re: Evolution Ornamental Mill

  

​Hi Ryan

The answer is that some have considered this.

The question is will it sell, personally I am of the opinion there is a market 
but the question is what length and diameter would people want, is it to be 
manually operated or electric and then you get into conventional electric 
motors or steppers. All these things effect the price and in this Legacy group 
how many bought their machines new and paid the Legacy price and how many went 
down the secondhand market route?

I have given it many hours thought and think the first version should be 36" 
between centres and 12" diameter and driven by stepper motors. Price with 
router or 1/2" collet air cooled spindle around $2,000.00 to $2,500.00.

Any thoughts or comments folk, and by the way I am happy to talk with Andy 
about whether he would be happy.

Cheers

Roger 

​

  

​

From: rtjurg...@gmail.com

Received: 20/10/2019 18:20:20 +01:00

To: legacy-ornamental-mi...@googllegacygroups.com

I sometimes wonder what the current market would bear if someone were to get 
Legacy's pemission to build and market a manual machine like the LOM Evolution. 

  

With them being 100% CNC now, would they consider it?

  

With all the experience that this group has, perhaps an (almost) all 
encompassing machine could be produced that does most everything desired up to 
a realistic point.

  

Hmmm.

  

Ryan

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On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 11:37 AM, Bawdsey64

 wrote:

Hi Dustin

As Curt says Legacy dropped all their manual machines from their business 
line-up and went 100% CNC. I am afraid he is wrong in on one point, it was not 
to follow the money as he states, but to survive in business and keep paying 
the members of staff at Legacy.

That is called doing what you have to do to survive in business when your 
traditional market dries up. Legacy's main customer base was the hobbyist 
market and at that time there was a recession on so guess what, most of 
Legacy's customers disappeared so CNC was the correct decision for them. The 
reason I know this was that I was selling Legacy machines into the UK and some 
of Europe and sales went down the pan about 6 months after the US.

Yes, The Evolution would have been a good machine, I would love to have one 
along 

RE: Old posts - w/Wayback Machine Link

2019-08-13 Thread rtjurg...@sbcglobal.net
Loved that lunk!! In the add it linked to the trade shows. The Milwaukee trade 
show of 2005 is where I say the 1200 LOM live the first time.I saw it again in 
2006, and then while in Utah on business I bought mine. I still have it in the 
original boxez!! One day soon . . . 

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Pretty much the same link mac

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2019 4:37 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Old posts - w/Wayback Machine Link

  

Bill,

  

Thanks - however, the link you posted did not work for me.

I did some "poking around" on the WayBack site and found this link worked:




Legacy Mills pages/postings

  

Enjoy!

Mac


-Original Message- 
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
Sent: Aug 13, 2019 11:56 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Old posts 




Ha ha ha ha yea I’ve come across that sight too searching.  Here’s a ligit  
link to some old legacy stuff click on the year and then on the blue dots  some 
things work some don’t but its fun to see the old legacy site again.

http://web.archive.org/web/2005030100*/http://www.legacywoodworking.com/

 

 Bill

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Ray
Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2019 1:47 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Old posts

 

You would be surprised how much is out there – a lot of which isn’t in this 
group.

 

There is a Legacy Ornamental Mill – which is used to crush rocks for example.  
Always coming up in my searches – surprised they are allowed to use the name.

 

https://www.piccolomini-inn.it/2004/Nov/07_23355.html

 

Ray

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 4:10 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Old posts

 

Good one Richard great reading all the old posts again brings back some 
memories. We all should surf the archives from time to time to see how much 
we’ve forgotten lolol  

Bill


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RE: Not a new video,but one that is new to me

2019-07-04 Thread rtjurg...@sbcglobal.net
So I saw just one of those videos and I saw the rantings of someone who has no 
mechanical skill and especially no computer skills. The fact that he spoke 
about the Arty the way he did qiockly revealed that HE was the real problem, 
not the product. Having worked with Legacy since 2006, I am confident that the 
customer service they provide is nothing like what the video producer said. My 
takeaway conclusion to the video was pretty quickly reaced. It is an ID 10 T 
error. (Idiot)
There are those kinds out there who love to show off their stupidity and seek 
pity from others like them. 
Ryan

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  On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 4:53 AM, Bill Bulkeley wrote:   
 
No offence and no bad feelings my skin is waythicker than that so all good my 
end 
 
  
 
Bill
 
  
 
From:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Thursday, 4 July 2019 11:00AM
To:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Not a new video,butone that is new to me
 
  
 
Bill,
 
Not a problem.  I certainly was notmeaning to make you feel bad for posting it. 
 In fact, it was probably a"good thing" - in that I learned there are folks out 
there that havea LOT of free time on thier hands - and, unfirtunately do not 
use it todo  constructive/nice things with it.
 
Thanks you for your comments back in anycase.  I did not mean to imply any bad 
feelings towards you ORCurtis.  
 
Cheers!
 
Mac
 

  
 
-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley 
Sent: Jul 3, 2019 5:40 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Not a new video,but one that is new to me 



 
I agree mac just, becauseI posted the link it doesn’t mean I agree with it 
everyone has a right to theiropinion the video in no way is mine feel free to 
delete it all. it was only tosee if it was what Richard found in hind sight 
perhaps I should not have youwill not hear another word about it from me.
 
 
 
Bill
 
 
 
From: 
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Thursday, 4 July 2019 3:28AM
To:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Not a new video,butone that is new to me
 
 
 
Curtis, Bill, and All others,
 
 
 
Curtis - I watched the one you providedthe link to 
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t74r8dlseQ=13s)- and WOW!!!
 
WHAT A WASTE OF MY TIME!  Afterseeing Curtis' Bill, I clicked on your link 
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oZ_GsOBqnY)and realized the video was going 
to be another by the same guy in Curtis'link.  Needless to say, is immediately 
exited out from that link - withoutclicking his "play" button!  I wasn't about 
to watch more of his"bull shoes"!
 
If anyone reading this has NOT watchedeither of the videos Curtis & Bill 
referenced, I HIGHLY recommend you DON'TWASTE YOUR TIME doing so.  The author 
owns THREE Legacy CNCs - and herants about how bad they are.  Even a chimpanzee 
learns from their mistakesafter two!
 
I consider this author a TRUE TROLL - withnothing better to do than produce a 
couple crappy, negative videos and hope toget paid by U-Tube when he gets folks 
to watch them!  
 
 
 
I also request all Group Members to notcontinue any further discussion of this 
Troll's keyboard vomit - and for themoderator to remove the discussions to date 
from the files as well. 
 
We ALL have better things going on in ourlives that we should be grateful for - 
and we need to share them - NOT thatbonehead's manure.
 
 
 
I wish all Group Members in America a Safeand Fun-filled Independence Day 
Holiday and weekend!
 
May God continue to Bless America!
 
Mac
 
 
 

-Original Message- 
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: Jul 3, 2019 10:06 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Not a new video,but one that is new to me 
 
Billthis guy has some very BAD videos,( Which I find funny. but they are no 
jokingmatter.) I am surprised that Legacy has not had some kind of legal 
slandersuite with this guy.
 
Thisvideo was the first that I saw ( a while back)  The others he made aremuch 
funner, I like the Robo-cop video. ;-p  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t74r8dlseQ=13s
 
 
 
talkto you all more later.
 
 
 
Havea good day.
 
 
 
C.A.G.
 
 
 
OnWednesday, July 3, 2019, 08:40:17 AM EDT, Bill Bulkeley 
wrote: 
 
 
 
 
 
I betit was this one  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oZ_GsOBqnY
 
 
 
Bill
 
 
 
From:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2019 9:45PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Re: Not a new video,butone that is new to me
 
 
 
It is meagain about this video that Curt has put on
 
Every time Iclick on the video and move it to the finish a different video come 
up I havedone it 5 times and have not seen the video about Legacy again. It was 
allabout his experience withLegacy
 
Richard
 
 
 
 
 


Re: legacy like

2019-04-19 Thread rtjurg...@sbcglobal.net
If I could comment here . . . the LOM was in a sense designed to do certain 
"types" of tasks, and as Legacy made each version better in the form of the 
invention, it was still (in my silly opinion) to accomplish those specific 
forms of tasks. It appears that some way wish to increase the length and width 
of the LOM capacity, while still "doing the same type of tasks". Then there 
seems to be some that may wish to do additional other tasks . . . tasks that 
perhaps (maybe) might just be easier to do on machines designed for that type 
of task. (Mortices come to mind). I know we all have shop and budget 
limitations, but when I think about the value of time and efficiency of 
completing things, I take into account what each machine can do, even if my 
personal creativity extends what I do on various machines. The real takeout for 
me is that I just plain enjoy taking a set of rough boards and creating 
something out of it in as easy and efficient (and beautiful) means as possible. 
LOM is a part of my resources of available tools to accomplish that end.

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  On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 12:39 PM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental 
Mills wrote:   hey guys!... some 
bullet points to consider in regards to possibly retrofitting the Woodpecker 
aluminum rail extrusion to a Legacy... first, the price.. it seems the railing 
is coming in at $20 per foot... the router sled looks to be about $200... a 
sizable investment to begin... next, the modifications... the bottom of the 
rails would need some kind of adapter so the rail could attach to the top of 
the Legacy "legs"(the vertical pieces)… a modification would need to be made to 
the lead screw split nut, since it would no longer be in alignment with the 
lead screw... the lead screw on the Y axis would need a lot of modification to 
re-work it to the new router carriage... also, as mentioned, some kind of mod 
is needed to keep the router sled from rising up off the X axis rails when 
traversing left to right, to a tight tolerance so that the Y axis sled doesn't 
rise up at all!... and doing all of that without the risk of it binding... this 
is a very difficult task to achieve!... then reworking some of the Legacy 
accessories, as necessary, to then work with the new rail design... those with 
the Z axis upgrade would have a number of mods to address as well, to adapt the 
Z tower to the new router sled... and I will save the best for last... Is this 
extrusion design commercially made?... if we are to assume that it is not, and 
it is proprietary to the Woodpecker company, as was the case with Legacy and 
their extrusion, then the risk is run that if Woodpecker discontinues this 
set-up, then the railing could be discontinued, and we are back to the same 
problem that currently exists... which, in my opinion, is the biggest reason 
not to consider using this design as a rail replacement... I believe there are 
two mods to consider to get additional Legacy railing... the first is to use 
the 80/20 rail to replace the Legacy bottom rails, which only serve a 
structural purpose... some creative work is necessary so the bottom of the 
Legacy "legs" can be attached to the 80/20, but that would seem to be easy 
enough... you then would have two, somewhat long pieces of Legacy railing to 
play with... the second option is to add 80/20 to your  Legacy 
machine(specifically the bottom AND top rails) and add a linear bearing setup 
to compensate that the black top hats would now not be usable... this option is 
a bit extreme, somewhat costly, but forever puts this problem to rest... with 
the added bonus of having the Legacy running on ball bearings... just some 
thoughts and my input on this topic... thanks for the read, if you made it this 
far!... LOL!... Joe B.






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RE: Make a "Split Nut" - & buying parts from Legacy

2019-02-05 Thread rtjurg...@sbcglobal.net
Wouldn't it be nice if some ingenious character worked with Legacy to obtain 
permission to begin manufacturing and selling parts they no longer provide? A 
niche business opportunity.

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Legacy doesn’t tell us everything and whenyou open your package and see your 
order then you got it. stuff for the oldmills is getting harder and harder to 
get.  I been waiting years for a ballbearing head stock for my mill I ordered 
from them.  as legacy states they nolonger support or supply anything to do 
with the old mills so any thing you canget from them I feel is a bonus and 
probably old stock left over from theirmanual mill days
 
  
 
Bill
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
From:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 20191:13 AM
To:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Make a "SplitNut" - & buying parts from Legacy
 
  
 
Thanks Bill I am only going by what Cindy shared with me?
 


 
Kind Regards,
 
  
 
Timothy J. Ziegler
 
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
 
14171 160th Ave.
 
Foreston MN 56330
 
  
 
320-294-5798 shop
 
320-630-2243 cell
 
  
 
  
 
On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 8:07 AM Bill Bulkeley  wrote:
 

Legacyrail has 2 wide grooves and 2 narrow grooves 80-20 has all narrow grooves 
ifthere’s a legacy rail there please post a link to it I would love to see it. 
Ibelieve Legacy had their rails made exclusively for them only and not too 
thegeneral public so you had to buy only from them then they went cnc and 
changedrail type to a more common more available one.
 
 
 
Bill
 
 
 
From: 
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 201912:25 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Make a "SplitNut" - & buying parts from Legacy
 
 
 
Good morningall, 
 
As promised 
 
 
 
Being fairly newon this I did a lot of digging as I did not want to jump in 
with out firstknowing more about 
 
components, andtheir availability. Even when I went after the predecessor the 
WC I dug untilmy head hurt. (Mike Pung and I had many discussions.)
 
Later joining theforum I got to know Curtis George. I had many more discussions 
with CurtisGeorge. Thanks again for so much support Curt & Mike.
 
So once I foundthe 1200 LOM and talked to Cindy from LOM, extensively she gave 
me thecompany's name of where we can still get rails etc...
 
I'm not exactlysure how to verify the rail style as you mentioned some are 
different thenothers. 
 
So the company is80-20 inc.  
 
web site is www.80-20inc.com
 
https://8020.net
 
844-802-0932 phone
 
servi...@80-20inc.com 
 
 
 
Big boys dreamfrom what I can see. You can even buy it by the foot so in my 
case I'm going tomake the small piece support for running narrow moulding. 
 
Hope this helpssomeone. 
 
 
 
Kindregards, 
 
Tim of ZWWS
 


 
Kind Regards,
 
 
 
Timothy J. Ziegler
 
Ziegler WoodWork& Specialty
 
14171 160th Ave.
 
Foreston MN 56330
 
 
 
320-294-5798 shop
 
320-630-2243 cell
 
 
 
 
 
On Tue, Feb 5,2019 at 1:28 AM Bill Bulkeley  wrote:
 

Ithought the aluminium legacy rails for the manual mills were discontinued 
beingmade. On some of the cnc mills the rail is different
 
Whenlooking make sure it’s the rail you want and not something just similar. if 
ittruly is the old legacy rail I’m sure many here would be interested in where 
itcan be purchased. 
 
 
 
Bill
 
 
 
From: 
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Ray Leaman
Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 20192:44 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Make a "SplitNut" - & buying parts from Legacy
 
 
 
Thanks much. This is very helpful.  If not too much of an imposition l could 
use yourreference on the aluminum 

RE: ID My Mill?

2019-01-19 Thread rtjurg...@sbcglobal.net
I have seen the laser cutting equipment at Legacy. It wonder if they could be 
convinced to knock out a few gears sets if enough people needed them?? 

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I seriously doubt if legacy would have gearsyou will have to find a laser 
cutter somewhere and have them made you have thegears that are already on the 
mill as an example to show to get the tooth shapeof the gears. i think you had 
some on your mill didn’t you?
 
  
 
Bill
 
  
 
From:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Rick Waters
Sent: Sunday, 20 January 2019 1:27AM
To:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ID My Mill?
 
  
 
Hmm, I suspected as much. Are the gears interchangeable? Can i stillget them 
from legacy?
 
  
 
On Sat, Jan 19, 2019, 8:07 AM Bill Bulkeley mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Bill Bulkeley
Sent: Sunday, 20 January 201912:59 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ID My Mill?
 
 
 
Ifeverything you have is in the pics then you have a lot of gears missing you 
cansee them all in the pic i sent
 
 
 
Bill
 
 
 
From: 
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Rick Waters
Sent: Saturday, 19 January 201911:54 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ID My Mill?
 
 
 
Everything I haveis in the pics.
 
 
 
On Sat, Jan 19,2019, 5:44 AM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
 

Thanks Mike! I'll call tomorrow, after we get the pinewood derby car completed 
:)
 
 
 
Tim, Here are picsof the head and tail stock.
 
 
 
On Fri, Jan 18,2019 at 10:33 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
wrote:
 

Welcometo the group Rick.  And welcome to the WoodChuck family
 
I have acrank handles for you, One for the drive as well as one for the shaft. 
Give me a call and I will see what else you may need and if I have it.  
 
MikeOK   405-650-0542
 
On 1/18/2019 9:28PM, Rick Waters wrote:
 

Thanks Bill! 
 
That helps a lot.
 
>From the picturesit looks like the split nut is connected by a steel or 
>aluminum arm, but is aplastic or urethane 'cup'?
 
 
 
Thanks Tim! Yeah, that would be great if you could contact Mike!  I'll call 
Legacy onTuesday.
 
I have not lookedanything up on Youtube, but I will now.
 
 
 
On Fri, Jan 18,2019 at 9:25 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
 

Rick, I am nottotally sure they will carry the crank. I know for sure they 
carry the splitnut lock.  
 
I will text MikePung and ask or have him respond to you too.  He is the Wood 
ChuckMaster. 
 
No Legacy is upand running strong but deep into CNC equipment.  They carry 
minimal partsfor 
 
the WoodChuck andthe Legacy Ornamental Mills or LOM's as most will refer too.
 
Have you looked upany you tubes on the Wood Chuck yet?
 


 
Kind Regards, 
 
 
 
Timothy J. Ziegler
 
Ziegler WoodWork& Specialty
 
14171 160th Ave.
 
Foreston MN 56330
 
 
 
320-294-5798 shop
 
320-630-2243 cell
 
 
 
 
 
On Fri, Jan 18,2019 at 8:30 PM Rick Waters  wrote:
 

Thanks Tim! 
 
No I 

RE: New Members and Moderation

2018-11-06 Thread rtjurg...@sbcglobal.net
You may be correct I remember seeing a number of models listed, I am not sure 
which ones I am traveling in the Philippines right now, I return to US in early 
December. I will look then Sorry for my delay!Ryan

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I always thought the 1200 manual included the200,900,1200,1800 and 2000 only
 
  
 
If it does include a 800 may I have a copy aswell
 
  
 
Bill
 
  
 
From:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of rtjurg...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Tuesday, 6 November 20185:21 PM
To:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Members andModeration
 
  
 
Hi Andrew! Bought myself a 1200 back in 2006 that is still in theboxes, and my 
assembly book I think includes the 800. I am ttaveling overseasat the moment, 
but when I get home on December 3 I will be working on my mill.I believe it 
might be a good thing if I convert my book to PDF!!
 
  
 
Ryan
 
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On Tue,Nov 6, 2018 at 1:05 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 
wrote:
 
Hello Andy
 
  
 
I will look for any info that I can onyour unit.
 
What I can find at this min. is thishistory link.
 
https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html  
 
I hope it helps.
 
  
 
I wish you luck on your projects. and Iam looking forward to hearing more abou 
them
 
latter.
 
Have a good night.
 
  
 
C.A.G.
 
  
 
OnMonday, November 5, 2018, 11:53:08 PM EST, Andrew 
Schwartz wrote: 
 
  
 
  
 
HelloEveryone:
 
 
 
Myname is Andy and I'm a new member to the group. My first woodworking 
projectwas making a replica of a $3,000 pine TV armoire my wife wanted for our 
firstChristmas. As a young couple, it may have been $1 million. I made if for 
about$200 (don't tell her that!)., including the slide door hardware It 
wasstrong enough to house a 32 inch Sony TV, which I think weighed 450 lbs. :). 
Westill have it today. From there I built our living room side tables and 
coffeetable from cherry, raised panel waynes cotting (MDF) for the dining room, 
awindow seat (birch ply and maple face), and a library/cabinet/TV 
entertaimentcenter for my basement out of poor man's cherry (poplar). In 2003, 
I built myoldest daughter's "big girl bed" and drawer set out of maple. Ibought 
the Legacy 800 soon after hoping to make more creative pieces. But, aslife has 
it, my wife and I decided to make more babies instead, so I neveropend the 
boxes for the Legacy 800. Every year, life kept the boxesclosed...unitil 
yesterday. My wife wants a new kitchen island. I want to makehope chests for my 
three teenage girls, and I want my ten year old son to learnhow to build 
things. 
 
  
 
Afteropening up the parts box of the 800, I noticed this would be quite a 
project toset up. I searched for assembly directions, and couldn't find them 
(or theydisintegrated after 15 years). 
 
  
 
Ifound this group and hoped I could get (1)Assembly instructions for the 800 
orsimilar mill (2) experienced help with an older legacy model (3)share my 
workwith like minded people.
 
  
 
Thanksfor reading my intro. I look forward to participating in this group.
 
  
 
Andy
 

On Saturday, March 31, 2012 at 8:07:09 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
 
Hello NewMembers, 
 
 
 
Thisis a reminder that until you post a message, your messages must beapproved 
by either an owner or moderators of this group to beposted.  Google sends an 
automated message to the people thatare responsible for approving messages, but 
please be aware it can be avery long delay.   
 
 
 
Gettingoff the moderated list is easy as posting a message introducing 
yourself. Asking a question related to the equipment or posting a photo is 
always goodfor getting instant approval.  I still believe this is a family 
friendlyplace so pl

Re: New Members and Moderation

2018-11-05 Thread rtjurg...@sbcglobal.net
Hi Andrew! Bought myself a 1200 back in 2006 that is still in the boxes, and my 
assembly book I think includes the 800. I am ttaveling overseas at the moment, 
but when I get home on December 3 I will be working on my mill. I believe it 
might be a good thing if I convert my book to PDF!!
Ryan

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 1:05 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental 
Mills wrote:Hello Andy
I will look for any info that I can on your unit.What I can find at this min. 
is this history link.https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html   
I hope it helps.
I wish you luck on your projects. and I am looking forward to hearing more abou 
themlatter.Have a good night.
C.A.G.
On Monday, November 5, 2018, 11:53:08 PM EST, Andrew Schwartz 
 wrote:  
 
 Hello Everyone: My name is Andy and I'm a new member to the group. My first 
woodworking project was making a replica of a $3,000 pine TV armoire my wife 
wanted for our first Christmas. As a young couple, it may have been $1 million. 
I made if for about $200 (don't tell her that!)., including the slide door 
hardware It was strong enough to house a 32 inch Sony TV, which I think weighed 
450 lbs. :). We still have it today. From there I built our living room side 
tables and coffee table from cherry, raised panel waynes cotting (MDF) for the 
dining room, a window seat (birch ply and maple face), and a library/cabinet/TV 
entertaiment center for my basement out of poor man's cherry (poplar). In 2003, 
I built my oldest daughter's "big girl bed" and drawer set out of maple. I 
bought the Legacy 800 soon after hoping to make more creative pieces. But, as 
life has it, my wife and I decided to make more babies instead, so I never 
opend the boxes for the Legacy 800. Every year, life kept the boxes 
closed...unitil yesterday. My wife wants a new kitchen island. I want to make 
hope chests for my three teenage girls, and I want my ten year old son to learn 
how to build things. 
After opening up the parts box of the 800, I noticed this would be quite a 
project to set up. I searched for assembly directions, and couldn't find them 
(or they disintegrated after 15 years). 
I found this group and hoped I could get (1)Assembly instructions for the 800 
or similar mill (2) experienced help with an older legacy model (3)share my 
work with like minded people.
Thanks for reading my intro. I look forward to participating in this group.
Andy

On Saturday, March 31, 2012 at 8:07:09 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
Hello New Members,  This is a reminder that until you post a message, your 
messages must be approved by either an owner or moderators of this group to be 
posted.  Google sends an automated message to the people that are responsible 
for approving messages, but please be aware it can be a very long delay.    
Getting off the moderated list is easy as posting a message introducing 
yourself.  Asking a question related to the equipment or posting a photo is 
always good for getting instant approval.  I still believe this is a family 
friendly place so please don't be shy.   As of today, there are 63 members that 
have joined since 2010 that have never posted a message.  I sure would like to 
hear from them either here in this thread, or feel free to send me a note off 
the list so I can update your status.   -Tim 


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