Re: Another Mesquite box - And Bourbon Cup!

2022-02-27 Thread M.W.Foscue 
Curtis,
 
I like that.  If you make each one slightly different - like the 
stripes/grooves on the "barrel" running around the barrel and/or from one end 
to the other - the person will be able to tell theirs from the other folks'.  
Or brand/stencil a number or a letter on the "top" (when put on the beer 
bottle) to achieve the same thing - identify mine from yours.
 
Now - for the pieces in your "leftovers" pile.  
Suggestion:  Take those two "rejects" and drill a hole in what would be the 
middle of the side of the "barrel".  Turn a handle sized for one end to go into 
that  hole.  After applying a finish to the handle & barrel, jam/glue the 
handle into the hole.
Next, turn a "plug" that you will be able to jam/glue into the bottom of the 
barrel (large hole).  Check that it will fit tightly and still be somewhat 
proud of the bottom "rim" of the barrel.
Get yourself enough lead shotgun shot to fill the barrel - being certain to 
leave space for the plug you will be jamming/gluing into the large hole.  Once 
barrel is filled with the shot, jam/glue the plug into large hole. Once dry, 
cut & sand to be flush with the "rim" of barrel.  Apply "finish" (poly, 
varnish, etc.) as needed.
You now have a dead blow mallet.  Experiment with how long you want the handle 
to be; as well as how much shot you want in it.  Then sell one to Tim Z. for 
him to use when he goes catching (fishing?).  He will use it to put the fish 
out of their misery by applying a blow to the top of the head - between the 
eyes.  That's what they require in Germany of fishermen; or used to when I 
fished there years ago.
Have Fun!
Mac
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Subject: Re: Another Mesquite box - And Bourbon Cup!
 
 
Nice read. Thank you.
I made some 20 wooden very small barrels to use as bear bottle stoppers at 
outdoor gatherings for my sister a while back.  this wood barrel was about the 
size of a shot glass, and could be put over the mouth of the bottle when not in 
your hand, to keep the flies and bees from going into the bottles.  
It was a very easy build. one block of wood, cut into squares just larger then 
the final part. appx. 2.5"x4 blanks. a 1 1/4" drill bit. (forester bit.) then 
lathe work. (I made and used a  template.)  I used a dowel in the chuck that 
fit snuggle inside the turning, and then used the tailstock to add pressure 
onto the part to hold it in place while turning.  
 
See Photo. left over's in my junk drawer 
 
C.A.G.
 

On Sunday, February 27, 2022, 11:18:33 PM EST, M.W.Foscue  wrote:
 
 
Curtis,
 
Sort of - but even simpler. The ones I saw had their outer sides just slightly 
angled outward - basically like a regular short drinking glass. 弄. You don't 
want to turn the sides too thin. you need to leave them thick enough to 
experiment with the charring.  Once you are close to "perfecting" the charring, 
you will then have a better feel for how thick to turn the sides to allow for 
the charring and still have thick enough sides.
For those that aren't familiar with the charring - a number of "beverages" use 
charred wood (often oaks) as part of their production process - filtering, 
imparting or removing certain "flavors", etc.
There are a lot of factors that influence the effects of the charring.  These 
factors and the processes they employ remain the "Secret Sauce" for each 
distiller.
 
Here is a link to an interesting write-up of much of that:  :  Toasting vs 
Charring barrels (https://distiller.com/articles/charred-toasted-barrels)
 
Note they also discuss "toasting vs charring".  Either should work - try them 
all!  Which is why I advised having your spouse get a BIG bottle of bourbon or 
whiskey for your R & D (Research & Development) phase.  LoL!
 
Mac

-Original Message-From: Sent: Feb 27, 2022 10:31 PMTo: 'Curt George' 
via Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Another Mesquite box - And Bourbon Cup!
 
 
Mac. is this what you are talking about?  That should not  be hard to re-make?
 
C.A.G.
 
 

On Sunday, February 27, 2022, 10:22:51 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:
 
 
 
Hello Mac.
 
I've seen a few charred turnings and finish before. Never done it my-self. but 
It might be a neat idea to try to make?
Something like you suggest, I would start out with a forester bit and drill out 
the drinking part first, then turn the outside...  The best part very little 
sanding will need to be done (before the charring) and just a brushing after.
Mac. can you find any photo's? Or link to this web site?
Neat idea's. depending on the market for these...?
 
C.A.G.
 

On Sunday, February 27, 2022, 10:13:17 PM EST, M.W.Foscue  wrote:
 
 
Curtis,
Nice!
 
Has anyone heard of a "Bourbon Cup" or "Bourbon Vessel"? 弄
Curt

Re: Another Mesquite box - And Bourbon Cup!

2022-02-27 Thread M.W.Foscue 
Curtis,
 
Sort of - but even simpler. The ones I saw had their outer sides just slightly 
angled outward - basically like a regular short drinking glass. 弄. You don't 
want to turn the sides too thin. you need to leave them thick enough to 
experiment with the charring.  Once you are close to "perfecting" the charring, 
you will then have a better feel for how thick to turn the sides to allow for 
the charring and still have thick enough sides.
For those that aren't familiar with the charring - a number of "beverages" use 
charred wood (often oaks) as part of their production process - filtering, 
imparting or removing certain "flavors", etc.
There are a lot of factors that influence the effects of the charring.  These 
factors and the processes they employ remain the "Secret Sauce" for each 
distiller.
 
Here is a link to an interesting write-up of much of that:  :  Toasting vs 
Charring barrels (https://distiller.com/articles/charred-toasted-barrels)
 
Note they also discuss "toasting vs charring".  Either should work - try them 
all!  Which is why I advised having your spouse get a BIG bottle of bourbon or 
whiskey for your R & D (Research & Development) phase.  LoL!
 
Mac
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From: 
Sent: Feb 27, 2022 10:31 PM
To: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Another Mesquite box - And Bourbon Cup!
 
 
Mac. is this what you are talking about?  That should not  be hard to re-make?
 
C.A.G.
 
 

On Sunday, February 27, 2022, 10:22:51 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:
 
 
 
Hello Mac.
 
I've seen a few charred turnings and finish before. Never done it my-self. but 
It might be a neat idea to try to make?
Something like you suggest, I would start out with a forester bit and drill out 
the drinking part first, then turn the outside...  The best part very little 
sanding will need to be done (before the charring) and just a brushing after.
Mac. can you find any photo's? Or link to this web site?
Neat idea's. depending on the market for these...?
 
C.A.G.
 

On Sunday, February 27, 2022, 10:13:17 PM EST, M.W.Foscue  wrote:
 
 
Curtis,
Nice!
 
Has anyone heard of a "Bourbon Cup" or "Bourbon Vessel"? 弄
Curtis' turning reminded me of one - somewhat.  I had never heard of it until a 
couple days ago I stumbled upon a guy that made some.  
It is SO simple.  He basically turns a "cup" like you did Curtis; except 
without the stem/base.  He didn't have a cap/lid for his - but I think that 
could be optional.  (Try different woods; my recommendation is to go with oak.  
Try whites and reds - then experiment with others too.)
 
Ok - at this point you are probably asking "So what you've described is a 
simple wooden "cup"!  
(I told you it was SIMPLE!).
What makes it a "Bourbon Cup/Vessel"?  Great question!
 
Once you have finished turning the cup - you take a torch (Brigitte, Roger, and 
Richard - NOT your kind of torch - the American one with a flame!  - LoL!) 
and apply it into the part that holds the drink.  You want to char it well - as 
that's what makes it a "Bourbon Cup".  
 
You will need to experiment 弄 with how much "charring" you will need to do - so 
be sure to have your spouse get you a BIG bottle of bourbon.  Once you have 
your cup charred (and well tested), go ahead and apply your finish - to the 
OUTSIDE only!  
I suggest you wait until the next morning (afternoon!?) before you attempt 
applying the finish!  LoL!
Enjoy!
Mac

-----Original Message-From: Sent: Feb 27, 2022 6:37 PMTo: 
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Another Mesquite box.
 
 
Hello Everyone. 
Thank you for the notes.
 
Tim.  The  "Houdini" trick is no trick at all, I just off-set the cover so you 
could see it was hollow. ;-)
The router bit is really an 2 fluted End mill, 3/8" with a 1/2" shank.  The 
wave is a 1/2" off-set, and the A gear was used for the pitch. 
NOTE: With the wave attachment the gears do not work the same as they do in the 
gear linkage, since you are only using two gears and the acme screw for your 
movement, (the duplex gear is not used), I never took the time to figure the 
exact pitch out, BUT as a general rule of thumb, the larger gears turn faster 
then the small ones do.
The T/K QC gear changer is always on my Legacy, for the most part. I do need to 
remove it when working with my X-2,3,4 gear set. but other then that, it stays 
on my machine most of the time, (I never know when I will need it.)  But having 
said that, it "can-not" be used with the "Wave Attachment." (or perhaps its 
better said it, will not change the direction of the wave, that alone must be 
done at the pivoting arm. not the rotation of the gears, Which is another 
totally separate topic. for another day.)  ;-)
Roger, This is all your fault. YOU Have me hooked onto this woo

Re: Another Mesquite box - And Bourbon Cup!

2022-02-27 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Hello Mac.
I've seen a few charred turnings and finish before. Never done it my-self. but 
It might be a neat idea to try to make?Something like you suggest, I would 
start out with a forester bit and drill out the drinking part first, then turn 
the outside...  The best part very little sanding will need to be done (before 
the charring) and just a brushing after.Mac. can you find any photo's? Or link 
to this web site?Neat idea's. depending on the market for these...?
C.A.G.
On Sunday, February 27, 2022, 10:13:17 PM EST, M.W.Foscue 
 wrote:  
 
 
Curtis,

Nice!

 

Has anyone heard of a "Bourbon Cup" or "Bourbon Vessel"? 弄

Curtis' turning reminded me of one - somewhat.  I had never heard of it until a 
couple days ago I stumbled upon a guy that made some.  

It is SO simple.  He basically turns a "cup" like you did Curtis; except 
without the stem/base.  He didn't have a cap/lid for his - but I think that 
could be optional.  (Try different woods; my recommendation is to go with oak.  
Try whites and reds - then experiment with others too.)

 

Ok - at this point you are probably asking "So what you've described is a 
simple wooden "cup"!  

(I told you it was SIMPLE!).

What makes it a "Bourbon Cup/Vessel"?  Great question!

 

Once you have finished turning the cup - you take a torch (Brigitte, Roger, and 
Richard - NOT your kind of torch - the American one with a flame!  - LoL!) 
and apply it into the part that holds the drink.  You want to char it well - as 
that's what makes it a "Bourbon Cup".  

 

You will need to experiment 弄 with how much "charring" you will need to do - so 
be sure to have your spouse get you a BIG bottle of bourbon.  Once you have 
your cup charred (and well tested), go ahead and apply your finish - to the 
OUTSIDE only!  

I suggest you wait until the next morning (afternoon!?) before you attempt 
applying the finish!  LoL!

Enjoy!

Mac

-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Feb 27, 2022 6:37 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Another Mesquite box.

 
 Hello Everyone. Thank you for the notes. Tim.  The  "Houdini" trick is no 
trick at all, I just off-set the cover so you could see it was hollow. ;-)The 
router bit is really an 2 fluted End mill, 3/8" with a 1/2" shank.  The wave is 
a 1/2" off-set, and the A gear was used for the pitch. NOTE: With the wave 
attachment the gears do not work the same as they do in the gear linkage, since 
you are only using two gears and the acme screw for your movement, (the duplex 
gear is not used), I never took the time to figure the exact pitch out, BUT as 
a general rule of thumb, the larger gears turn faster then the small ones 
do.The T/K QC gear changer is always on my Legacy, for the most part. I do need 
to remove it when working with my X-2,3,4 gear set. but other then that, it 
stays on my machine most of the time, (I never know when I will need it.)  But 
having said that, it "can-not" be used with the "Wave Attachment." (or perhaps 
its better said it, will not change the direction of the wave, that alone must 
be done at the pivoting arm. not the rotation of the gears, Which is another 
totally separate topic. for another day.)  ;-)Roger, This is all your fault. 
YOU Have me hooked onto this wood. ;-p Mesquite is beautiful Wood! I guess I 
should say Thanks for pointing me in this direction. ;-) Bill, Thank you.  I 
like it too.  talk to you all more latter. C.A.G. On Sunday, February 27, 2022, 
05:35:19 PM EST,  wrote:  
Very nice work curt as always love the wave

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 28 February 2022 8:33 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: Fw: Another Mesquite box.

 

  

  

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To: Legacy ornamental mills 

Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2022, 04:30:56 PM EST

Subject: Another Mesquite box.

  

Hello Everyone.

  

Got some play time in the shop today.

  

I used the Wave attachment, on my Legacy to make this  box.

  

Any questions or comments are as always welcome.

  

C.A.G.

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Re: Another Mesquite box - And Bourbon Cup!

2022-02-27 Thread M.W.Foscue 
Curtis,
Nice!
 
Has anyone heard of a "Bourbon Cup" or "Bourbon Vessel"? 弄
Curtis' turning reminded me of one - somewhat.  I had never heard of it until a 
couple days ago I stumbled upon a guy that made some.  
It is SO simple.  He basically turns a "cup" like you did Curtis; except 
without the stem/base.  He didn't have a cap/lid for his - but I think that 
could be optional.  (Try different woods; my recommendation is to go with oak.  
Try whites and reds - then experiment with others too.)
 
Ok - at this point you are probably asking "So what you've described is a 
simple wooden "cup"!  
(I told you it was SIMPLE!).
What makes it a "Bourbon Cup/Vessel"?  Great question!
 
Once you have finished turning the cup - you take a torch (Brigitte, Roger, and 
Richard - NOT your kind of torch - the American one with a flame!  - LoL!) 
and apply it into the part that holds the drink.  You want to char it well - as 
that's what makes it a "Bourbon Cup".  
 
You will need to experiment 弄 with how much "charring" you will need to do - so 
be sure to have your spouse get you a BIG bottle of bourbon.  Once you have 
your cup charred (and well tested), go ahead and apply your finish - to the 
OUTSIDE only!  
I suggest you wait until the next morning (afternoon!?) before you attempt 
applying the finish!  LoL!
Enjoy!
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Feb 27, 2022 6:37 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Another Mesquite box.
 
 
Hello Everyone. 
Thank you for the notes.
 
Tim.  The  "Houdini" trick is no trick at all, I just off-set the cover so you 
could see it was hollow. ;-)
The router bit is really an 2 fluted End mill, 3/8" with a 1/2" shank.  The 
wave is a 1/2" off-set, and the A gear was used for the pitch. 
NOTE: With the wave attachment the gears do not work the same as they do in the 
gear linkage, since you are only using two gears and the acme screw for your 
movement, (the duplex gear is not used), I never took the time to figure the 
exact pitch out, BUT as a general rule of thumb, the larger gears turn faster 
then the small ones do.
The T/K QC gear changer is always on my Legacy, for the most part. I do need to 
remove it when working with my X-2,3,4 gear set. but other then that, it stays 
on my machine most of the time, (I never know when I will need it.)  But having 
said that, it "can-not" be used with the "Wave Attachment." (or perhaps its 
better said it, will not change the direction of the wave, that alone must be 
done at the pivoting arm. not the rotation of the gears, Which is another 
totally separate topic. for another day.)  ;-)
Roger, This is all your fault. YOU Have me hooked onto this wood. ;-p Mesquite 
is beautiful Wood! I guess I should say Thanks for pointing me in this 
direction. ;-)
 
Bill, Thank you.  I like it too. 
 
talk to you all more latter.
 
C.A.G.
 

On Sunday, February 27, 2022, 05:35:19 PM EST,  wrote:
 
 
Very nice work curt as always love the wave
  
Bill
  
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Monday, 28 February 2022 
8:33 AMTo: Legacy ornamental mills Subject: Fw: Another Mesquite box.


 
  

  


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To: Legacy ornamental mills 

Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2022, 04:30:56 PM EST

Subject: Another Mesquite box.

  

Hello Everyone.

  

Got some play time in the shop today.

  

I used the Wave attachment, on my Legacy to make this  box.

  

Any questions or comments are as always welcome.

  

C.A.G.




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RE: Another Mesquite box.

2022-02-27 Thread bulkeley 
Very nice work curt as always love the wave

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 28 February 2022 8:33 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: Fw: Another Mesquite box.

 

 

 

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Subject: Another Mesquite box.

 

Hello Everyone.

 

Got some play time in the shop today.

 

I used the Wave attachment, on my Legacy to make this  box.

 

Any questions or comments are as always welcome.

 

C.A.G.

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Re: Fw: Another Mesquite box.

2022-02-27 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Hey very nice Curt,

I like it. That wood really has some cool characteristics. It's a shame so
much gets used to burn.
Especially when you can create something so neat as that.
So how did you do the "Houdini" trick with the lid in the air?
I'm assuming you're using a spiral up cut bit for hollowing then?
Did you put a wax finish on it or is it natural?
What index spacing did you use?
I wish my back wasn't so messed up I'd go play too. pretty much house bound
for a day or two.
So keep the projects coming Curt.
I also see the T.K. reversing gear being used.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


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> *Subject:* Another Mesquite box.
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> Got some play time in the shop today.
>
> I used the Wave attachment, on my Legacy to make this  box.
>
> Any questions or comments are as always welcome.
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: Fw: Another Mesquite box.

2022-02-27 Thread Ccm Ccm 
Nice

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>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> Got some play time in the shop today.
>
> I used the Wave attachment, on my Legacy to make this  box.
>
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>
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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-26 Thread Tim Ziegler 
I have not heard from them.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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Foreston MN 56330

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On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 11:52 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Curtis - and others,
>
>
>
> Has anyone heard anything from our Guild member that lives (prayerfully
> STILL lives) in Ukraine!
>
> His name is "Arkady from Ukraine".
>
> (I won't put his last name - for his own protection.  Ya never know what
> the Commie-bastards will do!)
> Here is the last post I found that he made - earlier this month, I believe:
> Hi Bill. Good job. Wait making square spirals video.
>
> Please PRAY for the Ukrainians - they need it badly right now.
> Have a prayerful weekend!
> Mac
> --
> --
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Feb 26, 2022 12:16 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Perhaps? If you can, Please let us know what you find.  I have not seen
> this type of die-grinder but it sounds do-able.
> I  wish you luck.
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Friday, February 25, 2022, 06:25:15 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> I have seen a sort of die grinder that has a Jacobs chuck on the end to
> hold the bit but it probably would not open big enough to hold ½ inch but
> it defiantly worth playing with the idea
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, 26 February 2022 1:26 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Hi Bill
>
>
>
> Sadly NO 1/4 or with an adaptor smaller only.  The Die grinder has a long
> neck which makes  it real nice for getting close and personal to the work
> piece. (Its normally used to grind inside mold/ steel dies, in casting.) I
> have a few that I use at work, they are not a loud as a Lam. router, but
> seem to have just as much power.
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-6-6-Amp-1-4-in-SJS-Die-Grinder-GD0800C/202517752
>  Even
> with a bur bit on the end (not a router bit) the grinder can be hard to
> control, So IF... someone was to use one (like Legacy did.) The mounting
> would have  to be SOLIDLY built or you would not  be able to control it.
>
> Gota run.
>
>
>
> Have a great day.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Friday, February 25, 2022, 01:53:16 AM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Do die grinders take ½ inch shank most magnate legacy bits are
>
>
>
> But a die grinder would be a really good idea for horizontal template
> milling interesting idea curt
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, 25 February 2022 4:49 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Hello Jeff (and everyone.)
>
> Along those lines,   I have a personal story to share about, LEGACY,  The
> last time I saw Andy at a trade show.
>
> ( This was a few years ago.)
>
> Legacy was just starting to get into the CNC field. Andy was using a Die
> Grinder on his CNC instead of a router motor, I noted this. and he was
> surprised I noted it, for what it was.  He told me that the Die Grinder
> made less noise... Plus some other things that I don't remember at this
> time, on why his did what he did for there CNC show piece. (it did make the
> machine look different. and in a good way.)
>
> My point is two fold,
>
>  #1 is, If size is a problem (stopping you form making your own equipment)
> for Your Legacy's Z axis, you could always go smaller with a Die-grinder or
> Dermal (another cutting method then using a large router motor) Remember
> this Z Axis dose not need to be a completely solid carriage, to replace
> what you have on your machine now, but It could be an add-on, that could be
> used only when you need to use it.   "YOU" do not have to throw out the
> baby out with the bath water, so to speak just to build something new.
>
> And #2 daring to be different just might help you, and others GROW, By
> breaking the mold, "So to speak", You can start looking at things that you
> could have never done or seen doing, By using the same things the same old
> ways.
>
>
>
> Have a good night.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 24, 2022, 07:16:58 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
&

RE: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-25 Thread bulkeley 
OMG I totally forgot he was from there I hope he is ok 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Saturday, 26 February 2022 4:53 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Curtis - and others,

 

Has anyone heard anything from our Guild member that lives (prayerfully STILL 
lives) in Ukraine!

His name is "Arkady from Ukraine". 

(I won't put his last name - for his own protection.  Ya never know what the 
Commie-bastards will do!)

Here is the last post I found that he made - earlier this month, I believe:

Hi Bill. Good job. Wait making square spirals video.

 

Please PRAY for the Ukrainians - they need it badly right now.

Have a prayerful weekend!

Mac

  _  

  _  

 

-Original Message-
From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Feb 26, 2022 12:16 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

 

Perhaps? If you can, Please let us know what you find.  I have not seen this 
type of die-grinder but it sounds do-able.

I  wish you luck.

 

 

C.A.G.

 

On Friday, February 25, 2022, 06:25:15 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

 

 

I have seen a sort of die grinder that has a Jacobs chuck on the end to hold 
the bit but it probably would not open big enough to hold ½ inch but it 
defiantly worth playing with the idea

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Saturday, 26 February 2022 1:26 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Hi Bill

 

Sadly NO 1/4 or with an adaptor smaller only.  The Die grinder has a long neck 
which makes  it real nice for getting close and personal to the work piece. 
(Its normally used to grind inside mold/ steel dies, in casting.) I have a few 
that I use at work, they are not a loud as a Lam. router, but seem to have just 
as much 
power.https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-6-6-Amp-1-4-in-SJS-Die-Grinder-GD0800C/202517752
 Even with a bur bit on the end (not a router bit) the grinder can be hard to 
control, So IF... someone was to use one (like Legacy did.) The mounting would 
have  to be SOLIDLY built or you would not  be able to control it.

Gota run.

 

Have a great day.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Friday, February 25, 2022, 01:53:16 AM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Do die grinders take ½ inch shank most magnate legacy bits are

 

But a die grinder would be a really good idea for horizontal template milling 
interesting idea curt

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Friday, 25 February 2022 4:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Hello Jeff (and everyone.)

Along those lines,   I have a personal story to share about, LEGACY,  The last 
time I saw Andy at a trade show.

( This was a few years ago.)

Legacy was just starting to get into the CNC field. Andy was using a Die 
Grinder on his CNC instead of a router motor, I noted this. and he was 
surprised I noted it, for what it was.  He told me that the Die Grinder made 
less noise... Plus some other things that I don't remember at this time, on why 
his did what he did for there CNC show piece. (it did make the machine look 
different. and in a good way.) 

My point is two fold, 

 #1 is, If size is a problem (stopping you form making your own equipment) for 
Your Legacy's Z axis, you could always go smaller with a Die-grinder or Dermal 
(another cutting method then using a large router motor) Remember this Z Axis 
dose not need to be a completely solid carriage, to replace what you have on 
your machine now, but It could be an add-on, that could be used only when you 
need to use it.   "YOU" do not have to throw out the baby out with the bath 
water, so to speak just to build something new. 

And #2 daring to be different just might help you, and others GROW, By breaking 
the mold, "So to speak", You can start looking at things that you could have 
never done or seen doing, By using the same things the same old ways.

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Thursday, February 24, 2022, 07:16:58 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Good thoughts Curt,

 

This thread is a good example of one idea leading to another as I hadn’t 
intended on suggesting CNC to create the tilting base plate but you are right. 

 

At some point there are enough building blocks in the right format (or close 
enough to convert it to) in order to go that way if those equi

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-25 Thread M.W.Foscue 
Re-sending with a MUCH better SUBJECT line
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Feb 26, 2022 12:52 AM
To: 

Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
 
Curtis - and others,
 
Has anyone heard anything from our Guild member that lives (prayerfully STILL 
lives) in Ukraine!
His name is "Arkady from Ukraine". 
(I won't put his last name - for his own protection.  Ya never know what the 
Commie-bastards will do!)
Here is the last post I found that he made - earlier this month, I believe:
Hi Bill. Good job. Wait making square spirals video.
 
Please PRAY for the Ukrainians - they need it badly right now.
Have a prayerful weekend!
Mac
 

-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Feb 26, 2022 12:16 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
 
 
Perhaps? If you can, Please let us know what you find.  I have not seen this 
type of die-grinder but it sounds do-able.
I  wish you luck.
 
 
C.A.G.
 

On Friday, February 25, 2022, 06:25:15 PM EST,  wrote:
 
 
I have seen a sort of die grinder that has a Jacobs chuck on the end to hold 
the bit but it probably would not open big enough to hold ½ inch but it 
defiantly worth playing with the idea
  
Bill
  
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Saturday, 26 February 
2022 1:26 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: My first 
Legacy box.


 
Hi Bill

  

Sadly NO 1/4 or with an adaptor smaller only.  The Die grinder has a long neck 
which makes  it real nice for getting close and personal to the work piece. 
(Its normally used to grind inside mold/ steel dies, in casting.) I have a few 
that I use at work, they are not a loud as a Lam. router, but seem to have just 
as much 
power.https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-6-6-Amp-1-4-in-SJS-Die-Grinder-GD0800C/202517752
 Even with a bur bit on the end (not a router bit) the grinder can be hard to 
control, So IF... someone was to use one (like Legacy did.) The mounting would 
have  to be SOLIDLY built or you would not  be able to control it.

Gota run.

  

Have a great day.

  

C.A.G.

  


On Friday, February 25, 2022, 01:53:16 AM EST,  wrote: 

  

  

Do die grinders take ½ inch shank most magnate legacy bits are
 
But a die grinder would be a really good idea for horizontal template milling 
interesting idea curt
 
Bill
 
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Friday, 25 February 2022 
4:49 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)Subject: Re: My first Legacy 
box.


 
Hello Jeff (and everyone.)

Along those lines,   I have a personal story to share about, LEGACY,  The last 
time I saw Andy at a trade show.

( This was a few years ago.)

Legacy was just starting to get into the CNC field. Andy was using a Die 
Grinder on his CNC instead of a router motor, I noted this. and he was 
surprised I noted it, for what it was.  He told me that the Die Grinder made 
less noise... Plus some other things that I don't remember at this time, on why 
his did what he did for there CNC show piece. (it did make the machine look 
different. and in a good way.) 

My point is two fold, 

 #1 is, If size is a problem (stopping you form making your own equipment) for 
Your Legacy's Z axis, you could always go smaller with a Die-grinder or Dermal 
(another cutting method then using a large router motor) Remember this Z Axis 
dose not need to be a completely solid carriage, to replace what you have on 
your machine now, but It could be an add-on, that could be used only when you 
need to use it.   "YOU" do not have to throw out the baby out with the bath 
water, so to speak just to build something new. 

And #2 daring to be different just might help you, and others GROW, By breaking 
the mold, "So to speak", You can start looking at things that you could have 
never done or seen doing, By using the same things the same old ways.

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

 


On Thursday, February 24, 2022, 07:16:58 PM EST, Jeff Richmond  wrote: 

 

 

Good thoughts Curt,
 

This thread is a good example of one idea leading to another as I hadn’t 
intended on suggesting CNC to create the tilting base plate but you are right. 
 

At some point there are enough building blocks in the right format (or close 
enough to convert it to) in order to go that way if those equipment resources 
are available. If not, you can still cut it out by hand. 

 

My original intent was to highlight that some of the design work may already be 
accessible verses trying a few different iterations bouncing around in my head 
and losing time and materials to any prototypes but sometimes we just have to 
go with it too.

 

Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhone
  
On Feb 24, 2022, at 1:24 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:

 
Hello Everyone.

Jeff I knew about this. But your comment or perhaps the over all tone, here 
made me wonder. Are these prints well formatted? I mean if they are in

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-25 Thread M.W.Foscue 
Curtis - and others,
 
Has anyone heard anything from our Guild member that lives (prayerfully STILL 
lives) in Ukraine!
His name is "Arkady from Ukraine". 
(I won't put his last name - for his own protection.  Ya never know what the 
Commie-bastards will do!)
Here is the last post I found that he made - earlier this month, I believe:
Hi Bill. Good job. Wait making square spirals video.
 
Please PRAY for the Ukrainians - they need it badly right now.
Have a prayerful weekend!
Mac
 
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Feb 26, 2022 12:16 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
 
 
Perhaps? If you can, Please let us know what you find.  I have not seen this 
type of die-grinder but it sounds do-able.
I  wish you luck.
 
 
C.A.G.
 

On Friday, February 25, 2022, 06:25:15 PM EST,  wrote:
 
 
I have seen a sort of die grinder that has a Jacobs chuck on the end to hold 
the bit but it probably would not open big enough to hold ½ inch but it 
defiantly worth playing with the idea
  
Bill
  
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Saturday, 26 February 
2022 1:26 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: My first 
Legacy box.


 
Hi Bill

  

Sadly NO 1/4 or with an adaptor smaller only.  The Die grinder has a long neck 
which makes  it real nice for getting close and personal to the work piece. 
(Its normally used to grind inside mold/ steel dies, in casting.) I have a few 
that I use at work, they are not a loud as a Lam. router, but seem to have just 
as much 
power.https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-6-6-Amp-1-4-in-SJS-Die-Grinder-GD0800C/202517752
 Even with a bur bit on the end (not a router bit) the grinder can be hard to 
control, So IF... someone was to use one (like Legacy did.) The mounting would 
have  to be SOLIDLY built or you would not  be able to control it.

Gota run.

  

Have a great day.

  

C.A.G.

  


On Friday, February 25, 2022, 01:53:16 AM EST,  wrote: 

  

  

Do die grinders take ½ inch shank most magnate legacy bits are
 
But a die grinder would be a really good idea for horizontal template milling 
interesting idea curt
 
Bill
 
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Friday, 25 February 2022 
4:49 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)Subject: Re: My first Legacy 
box.


 
Hello Jeff (and everyone.)

Along those lines,   I have a personal story to share about, LEGACY,  The last 
time I saw Andy at a trade show.

( This was a few years ago.)

Legacy was just starting to get into the CNC field. Andy was using a Die 
Grinder on his CNC instead of a router motor, I noted this. and he was 
surprised I noted it, for what it was.  He told me that the Die Grinder made 
less noise... Plus some other things that I don't remember at this time, on why 
his did what he did for there CNC show piece. (it did make the machine look 
different. and in a good way.) 

My point is two fold, 

 #1 is, If size is a problem (stopping you form making your own equipment) for 
Your Legacy's Z axis, you could always go smaller with a Die-grinder or Dermal 
(another cutting method then using a large router motor) Remember this Z Axis 
dose not need to be a completely solid carriage, to replace what you have on 
your machine now, but It could be an add-on, that could be used only when you 
need to use it.   "YOU" do not have to throw out the baby out with the bath 
water, so to speak just to build something new. 

And #2 daring to be different just might help you, and others GROW, By breaking 
the mold, "So to speak", You can start looking at things that you could have 
never done or seen doing, By using the same things the same old ways.

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

 


On Thursday, February 24, 2022, 07:16:58 PM EST, Jeff Richmond  wrote: 

 

 

Good thoughts Curt,
 

This thread is a good example of one idea leading to another as I hadn’t 
intended on suggesting CNC to create the tilting base plate but you are right. 
 

At some point there are enough building blocks in the right format (or close 
enough to convert it to) in order to go that way if those equipment resources 
are available. If not, you can still cut it out by hand. 

 

My original intent was to highlight that some of the design work may already be 
accessible verses trying a few different iterations bouncing around in my head 
and losing time and materials to any prototypes but sometimes we just have to 
go with it too.

 

Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhone
  
On Feb 24, 2022, at 1:24 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:

 
Hello Everyone.

Jeff I knew about this. But your comment or perhaps the over all tone, here 
made me wonder. Are these prints well formatted? I mean if they are in DFX 
file, then someone, could take the prints and burn them out of steel or alum. 
with modern CNC equipment, or perhaps a 3 D printer. It jus

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-25 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Perhaps? If you can, Please let us know what you find.  I have not seen this 
type of die-grinder but it sounds do-able.I  wish you luck.

C.A.G.
On Friday, February 25, 2022, 06:25:15 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
I have seen a sort of die grinder that has a Jacobs chuck on the end to hold 
the bit but it probably would not open big enough to hold ½ inch but it 
defiantly worth playing with the idea

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Saturday, 26 February 2022 1:26 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

  

Hi Bill

  

Sadly NO 1/4 or with an adaptor smaller only.  The Die grinder has a long neck 
which makes  it real nice for getting close and personal to the work piece. 
(Its normally used to grind inside mold/ steel dies, in casting.) I have a few 
that I use at work, they are not a loud as a Lam. router, but seem to have just 
as much 
power.https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-6-6-Amp-1-4-in-SJS-Die-Grinder-GD0800C/202517752
 Even with a bur bit on the end (not a router bit) the grinder can be hard to 
control, So IF... someone was to use one (like Legacy did.) The mounting would 
have  to be SOLIDLY built or you would not  be able to control it.

Gota run.

  

Have a great day.

  

C.A.G.

  

On Friday, February 25, 2022, 01:53:16 AM EST,  wrote: 

  

  

Do die grinders take ½ inch shank most magnate legacy bits are

 

But a die grinder would be a really good idea for horizontal template milling 
interesting idea curt

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Friday, 25 February 2022 4:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Hello Jeff (and everyone.)

Along those lines,   I have a personal story to share about, LEGACY,  The last 
time I saw Andy at a trade show.

( This was a few years ago.)

Legacy was just starting to get into the CNC field. Andy was using a Die 
Grinder on his CNC instead of a router motor, I noted this. and he was 
surprised I noted it, for what it was.  He told me that the Die Grinder made 
less noise... Plus some other things that I don't remember at this time, on why 
his did what he did for there CNC show piece. (it did make the machine look 
different. and in a good way.) 

My point is two fold, 

 #1 is, If size is a problem (stopping you form making your own equipment) for 
Your Legacy's Z axis, you could always go smaller with a Die-grinder or Dermal 
(another cutting method then using a large router motor) Remember this Z Axis 
dose not need to be a completely solid carriage, to replace what you have on 
your machine now, but It could be an add-on, that could be used only when you 
need to use it.   "YOU" do not have to throw out the baby out with the bath 
water, so to speak just to build something new. 

And #2 daring to be different just might help you, and others GROW, By breaking 
the mold, "So to speak", You can start looking at things that you could have 
never done or seen doing, By using the same things the same old ways.

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Thursday, February 24, 2022, 07:16:58 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
 wrote: 

 

 

Good thoughts Curt,

 

This thread is a good example of one idea leading to another as I hadn’t 
intended on suggesting CNC to create the tilting base plate but you are right. 

 

At some point there are enough building blocks in the right format (or close 
enough to convert it to) in order to go that way if those equipment resources 
are available. If not, you can still cut it out by hand. 

 

My original intent was to highlight that some of the design work may already be 
accessible verses trying a few different iterations bouncing around in my head 
and losing time and materials to any prototypes but sometimes we just have to 
go with it too.

 

Jeff from Connecticut 
Sent from my iPhone

  


On Feb 24, 2022, at 1:24 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:





Hello Everyone.

Jeff I knew about this. But your comment or perhaps the over all tone, here 
made me wonder. Are these prints well formatted? I mean if they are in DFX 
file, then someone, could take the prints and burn them out of steel or alum. 
with modern CNC equipment, or perhaps a 3 D printer. It just might be something 
to think about?

 

Years ago there was a company called Gel-bilt, they sold blue prints and some 
parts for making our own woodworking equipment.  I know a man who bought two 
band saw kits, cut them out of 1" plate steel not wood as the plans stated for. 
 and made a One of a kind 4 wheel, bandsaw, It was huge! 

My first table saw was a Gel-bilt 10" circler saw. (I all ways wanted to buy 
there lathe/drill press kit, but never did.) 
http://gilliom-gil-bilt-tool-hunter.blogspot.com/ 

 

When there is a will, There is ALWAYS a WAY, To get the job done. 

sometimes you need to think outside the box. And do it your own way. ;-)

 

RE: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-25 Thread bulkeley 
I have seen a sort of die grinder that has a Jacobs chuck on the end to hold 
the bit but it probably would not open big enough to hold ½ inch but it 
defiantly worth playing with the idea

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Saturday, 26 February 2022 1:26 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Hi Bill

 

Sadly NO 1/4 or with an adaptor smaller only.  The Die grinder has a long neck 
which makes  it real nice for getting close and personal to the work piece. 
(Its normally used to grind inside mold/ steel dies, in casting.) I have a few 
that I use at work, they are not a loud as a Lam. router, but seem to have just 
as much 
power.https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-6-6-Amp-1-4-in-SJS-Die-Grinder-GD0800C/202517752
 Even with a bur bit on the end (not a router bit) the grinder can be hard to 
control, So IF... someone was to use one (like Legacy did.) The mounting would 
have  to be SOLIDLY built or you would not  be able to control it.

Gota run.

 

Have a great day.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Friday, February 25, 2022, 01:53:16 AM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Do die grinders take ½ inch shank most magnate legacy bits are

 

But a die grinder would be a really good idea for horizontal template milling 
interesting idea curt

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Friday, 25 February 2022 4:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Hello Jeff (and everyone.)

Along those lines,   I have a personal story to share about, LEGACY,  The last 
time I saw Andy at a trade show.

( This was a few years ago.)

Legacy was just starting to get into the CNC field. Andy was using a Die 
Grinder on his CNC instead of a router motor, I noted this. and he was 
surprised I noted it, for what it was.  He told me that the Die Grinder made 
less noise... Plus some other things that I don't remember at this time, on why 
his did what he did for there CNC show piece. (it did make the machine look 
different. and in a good way.) 

My point is two fold, 

 #1 is, If size is a problem (stopping you form making your own equipment) for 
Your Legacy's Z axis, you could always go smaller with a Die-grinder or Dermal 
(another cutting method then using a large router motor) Remember this Z Axis 
dose not need to be a completely solid carriage, to replace what you have on 
your machine now, but It could be an add-on, that could be used only when you 
need to use it.   "YOU" do not have to throw out the baby out with the bath 
water, so to speak just to build something new. 

And #2 daring to be different just might help you, and others GROW, By breaking 
the mold, "So to speak", You can start looking at things that you could have 
never done or seen doing, By using the same things the same old ways.

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Thursday, February 24, 2022, 07:16:58 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Good thoughts Curt,

 

This thread is a good example of one idea leading to another as I hadn’t 
intended on suggesting CNC to create the tilting base plate but you are right. 

 

At some point there are enough building blocks in the right format (or close 
enough to convert it to) in order to go that way if those equipment resources 
are available. If not, you can still cut it out by hand. 

 

My original intent was to highlight that some of the design work may already be 
accessible verses trying a few different iterations bouncing around in my head 
and losing time and materials to any prototypes but sometimes we just have to 
go with it too.

 

Jeff from Connecticut 
Sent from my iPhone

 

On Feb 24, 2022, at 1:24 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



Hello Everyone.

Jeff I knew about this. But your comment or perhaps the over all tone, here 
made me wonder. Are these prints well formatted? I mean if they are in DFX 
file, then someone, could take the prints and burn them out of steel or alum. 
with modern CNC equipment, or perhaps a 3 D printer. It just might be something 
to think about?

 

Years ago there was a company called Gel-bilt, they sold blue prints and some 
parts for making our own woodworking equipment.  I know a man who bought two 
band saw kits, cut them out of 1" plate steel not wood as the plans stated for. 
 and made a One of a kind 4 wheel, bandsaw, It was huge! 

My first table saw was a Gel-bilt 10" circler saw. (I all ways wanted to buy 
there lathe/drill press kit, but never did.) 
http://gilliom-gil-bilt-tool-hunter.blogspot.com/ 

 

When there is a will, There is ALWAYS a WAY, To get the job done. 

sometimes you need to think outside the box.

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-25 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Hi Bill
Sadly NO 1/4 or with an adaptor smaller only.  The Die grinder has a long neck 
which makes  it real nice for getting close and personal to the work piece. 
(Its normally used to grind inside mold/ steel dies, in casting.) I have a few 
that I use at work, they are not a loud as a Lam. router, but seem to have just 
as much 
power.https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-6-6-Amp-1-4-in-SJS-Die-Grinder-GD0800C/202517752
 Even with a bur bit on the end (not a router bit) the grinder can be hard to 
control, So IF... someone was to use one (like Legacy did.) The mounting would 
have  to be SOLIDLY built or you would not  be able to control it.Gota run.
Have a great day.
C.A.G.
On Friday, February 25, 2022, 01:53:16 AM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
Do die grinders take ½ inch shank most magnate legacy bits are

  

But a die grinder would be a really good idea for horizontal template milling 
interesting idea curt

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Friday, 25 February 2022 4:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

  

Hello Jeff (and everyone.)

Along those lines,   I have a personal story to share about, LEGACY,  The last 
time I saw Andy at a trade show.

( This was a few years ago.)

Legacy was just starting to get into the CNC field. Andy was using a Die 
Grinder on his CNC instead of a router motor, I noted this. and he was 
surprised I noted it, for what it was.  He told me that the Die Grinder made 
less noise... Plus some other things that I don't remember at this time, on why 
his did what he did for there CNC show piece. (it did make the machine look 
different. and in a good way.) 

My point is two fold, 

 #1 is, If size is a problem (stopping you form making your own equipment) for 
Your Legacy's Z axis, you could always go smaller with a Die-grinder or Dermal 
(another cutting method then using a large router motor) Remember this Z Axis 
dose not need to be a completely solid carriage, to replace what you have on 
your machine now, but It could be an add-on, that could be used only when you 
need to use it.   "YOU" do not have to throw out the baby out with the bath 
water, so to speak just to build something new. 

And #2 daring to be different just might help you, and others GROW, By breaking 
the mold, "So to speak", You can start looking at things that you could have 
never done or seen doing, By using the same things the same old ways.

  

Have a good night.

  

C.A.G.

  

On Thursday, February 24, 2022, 07:16:58 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
 wrote: 

  

  

Good thoughts Curt,

  

This thread is a good example of one idea leading to another as I hadn’t 
intended on suggesting CNC to create the tilting base plate but you are right. 

  

At some point there are enough building blocks in the right format (or close 
enough to convert it to) in order to go that way if those equipment resources 
are available. If not, you can still cut it out by hand. 

  

My original intent was to highlight that some of the design work may already be 
accessible verses trying a few different iterations bouncing around in my head 
and losing time and materials to any prototypes but sometimes we just have to 
go with it too.

  

Jeff from Connecticut 
Sent from my iPhone






On Feb 24, 2022, at 1:24 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:





Hello Everyone.

Jeff I knew about this. But your comment or perhaps the over all tone, here 
made me wonder. Are these prints well formatted? I mean if they are in DFX 
file, then someone, could take the prints and burn them out of steel or alum. 
with modern CNC equipment, or perhaps a 3 D printer. It just might be something 
to think about?

  

Years ago there was a company called Gel-bilt, they sold blue prints and some 
parts for making our own woodworking equipment.  I know a man who bought two 
band saw kits, cut them out of 1" plate steel not wood as the plans stated for. 
 and made a One of a kind 4 wheel, bandsaw, It was huge! 

My first table saw was a Gel-bilt 10" circler saw. (I all ways wanted to buy 
there lathe/drill press kit, but never did.) 
http://gilliom-gil-bilt-tool-hunter.blogspot.com/ 

  

When there is a will, There is ALWAYS a WAY, To get the job done. 

sometimes you need to think outside the box. And do it your own way. ;-)

  

Have a good night.

  

C.A.G.

  

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 09:51:13 PM EST,  
wrote: 

  

  

Good find jeff it gives a starting point to a possible all wood tilting Z axis

 

I chose aluminium at the time because of the limited space between the legacy 
rails I needed as much room as possible for movement but retaining as much 
rigidity as possible, choosing the smallest router possible that accepts ½ inch 
router bits also helps with room to manipulate the cutter during milling too

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Th

RE: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-24 Thread bulkeley 
Do die grinders take ½ inch shank most magnate legacy bits are

 

But a die grinder would be a really good idea for horizontal template milling 
interesting idea curt

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Friday, 25 February 2022 4:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Hello Jeff (and everyone.)

Along those lines,   I have a personal story to share about, LEGACY,  The last 
time I saw Andy at a trade show.

( This was a few years ago.)

Legacy was just starting to get into the CNC field. Andy was using a Die 
Grinder on his CNC instead of a router motor, I noted this. and he was 
surprised I noted it, for what it was.  He told me that the Die Grinder made 
less noise... Plus some other things that I don't remember at this time, on why 
his did what he did for there CNC show piece. (it did make the machine look 
different. and in a good way.) 

My point is two fold, 

 #1 is, If size is a problem (stopping you form making your own equipment) for 
Your Legacy's Z axis, you could always go smaller with a Die-grinder or Dermal 
(another cutting method then using a large router motor) Remember this Z Axis 
dose not need to be a completely solid carriage, to replace what you have on 
your machine now, but It could be an add-on, that could be used only when you 
need to use it.   "YOU" do not have to throw out the baby out with the bath 
water, so to speak just to build something new. 

And #2 daring to be different just might help you, and others GROW, By breaking 
the mold, "So to speak", You can start looking at things that you could have 
never done or seen doing, By using the same things the same old ways.

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Thursday, February 24, 2022, 07:16:58 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Good thoughts Curt,

 

This thread is a good example of one idea leading to another as I hadn’t 
intended on suggesting CNC to create the tilting base plate but you are right. 

 

At some point there are enough building blocks in the right format (or close 
enough to convert it to) in order to go that way if those equipment resources 
are available. If not, you can still cut it out by hand. 

 

My original intent was to highlight that some of the design work may already be 
accessible verses trying a few different iterations bouncing around in my head 
and losing time and materials to any prototypes but sometimes we just have to 
go with it too.

 

Jeff from Connecticut 
Sent from my iPhone





On Feb 24, 2022, at 1:24 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



Hello Everyone.

Jeff I knew about this. But your comment or perhaps the over all tone, here 
made me wonder. Are these prints well formatted? I mean if they are in DFX 
file, then someone, could take the prints and burn them out of steel or alum. 
with modern CNC equipment, or perhaps a 3 D printer. It just might be something 
to think about?

 

Years ago there was a company called Gel-bilt, they sold blue prints and some 
parts for making our own woodworking equipment.  I know a man who bought two 
band saw kits, cut them out of 1" plate steel not wood as the plans stated for. 
 and made a One of a kind 4 wheel, bandsaw, It was huge! 

My first table saw was a Gel-bilt 10" circler saw. (I all ways wanted to buy 
there lathe/drill press kit, but never did.) 
http://gilliom-gil-bilt-tool-hunter.blogspot.com/ 

 

When there is a will, There is ALWAYS a WAY, To get the job done. 

sometimes you need to think outside the box. And do it your own way. ;-)

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 09:51:13 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Good find jeff it gives a starting point to a possible all wood tilting Z axis

 

I chose aluminium at the time because of the limited space between the legacy 
rails I needed as much room as possible for movement but retaining as much 
rigidity as possible, choosing the smallest router possible that accepts ½ inch 
router bits also helps with room to manipulate the cutter during milling too

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Thursday, 24 February 2022 10:11 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Hello Everyone,

 

I bumped into some of the same information that could likely be modified for 
use with the Legacy router carriage. It looks like the plans are available to 
purchase as well to cut down on the engineering and time.

 

https://woodgears.ca/router_lift/index.html

Jeff from Connecticut 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Feb 23, 2022, at

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-24 Thread Chris Smith 
Thanks for the insight Curt, I appreciate the comments on experimenting
with different cutting tools.

Chris Smith
Sacramento




On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 9:49 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Jeff (and everyone.)
> Along those lines,   I have a personal story to share about, LEGACY,  The
> last time I saw Andy at a trade show.
> ( This was a few years ago.)
> Legacy was just starting to get into the CNC field. Andy was using a Die
> Grinder on his CNC instead of a router motor, I noted this. and he was
> surprised I noted it, for what it was.  He told me that the Die Grinder
> made less noise... Plus some other things that I don't remember at this
> time, on why his did what he did for there CNC show piece. (it did make the
> machine look different. and in a good way.)
> My point is two fold,
>  #1 is, If size is a problem (stopping you form making your own equipment)
> for Your Legacy's Z axis, you could always go smaller with a Die-grinder or
> Dermal (another cutting method then using a large router motor) Remember
> this Z Axis dose not need to be a completely solid carriage, to replace
> what you have on your machine now, but It could be an add-on, that could be
> used only when you need to use it.   "YOU" do not have to throw out the
> baby out with the bath water, so to speak just to build something new.
> And #2 daring to be different just might help you, and others GROW, By
> breaking the mold, "So to speak", You can start looking at things that you
> could have never done or seen doing, By using the same things the same old
> ways.
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, February 24, 2022, 07:16:58 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Good thoughts Curt,
>
> This thread is a good example of one idea leading to another as I hadn’t
> intended on suggesting CNC to create the tilting base plate but you are
> right.
>
> At some point there are enough building blocks in the right format (or
> close enough to convert it to) in order to go that way if those equipment
> resources are available. If not, you can still cut it out by hand.
>
> My original intent was to highlight that some of the design work may
> already be accessible verses trying a few different iterations bouncing
> around in my head and losing time and materials to any prototypes but
> sometimes we just have to go with it too.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 24, 2022, at 1:24 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Hello Everyone.
> Jeff I knew about this. But your comment or perhaps the over all tone,
> here made me wonder. Are these prints well formatted? I mean if they are in
> DFX file, then someone, could take the prints and burn them out of steel or
> alum. with modern CNC equipment, or perhaps a 3 D printer. It just might be
> something to think about?
>
> Years ago there was a company called Gel-bilt, they sold blue prints and
> some parts for making our own woodworking equipment.  I know a man who
> bought two band saw kits, cut them out of 1" plate steel not wood as the
> plans stated for.  and made a One of a kind 4 wheel, bandsaw, It was huge!
> My first table saw was a Gel-bilt 10" circler saw. (I all ways wanted to
> buy there lathe/drill press kit, but never did.)
> http://gilliom-gil-bilt-tool-hunter.blogspot.com/
>
> When there is a will, There is ALWAYS a WAY, To get the job done.
> sometimes you need to think outside the box. And do it your own way. ;-)
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 09:51:13 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Good find jeff it gives a starting point to a possible all wood tilting Z
> axis
>
>
>
> I chose aluminium at the time because of the limited space between the
> legacy rails I needed as much room as possible for movement but retaining
> as much rigidity as possible, choosing the smallest router possible that
> accepts ½ inch router bits also helps with room to manipulate the cutter
> during milling too
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Thursday, 24 February 2022 10:11 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> I bumped into some of the same information that could likely be modified
> for use with the Legacy router carriage. It looks like the plans are
> available to purchase as well to cut

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-24 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Hello Jeff (and everyone.)Along those lines,   I have a personal story to 
share about, LEGACY,  The last time I saw Andy at a trade show.( This was a few 
years ago.)Legacy was just starting to get into the CNC field. Andy was using a 
Die Grinder on his CNC instead of a router motor, I noted this. and he was 
surprised I noted it, for what it was.  He told me that the Die Grinder made 
less noise... Plus some other things that I don't remember at this time, on why 
his did what he did for there CNC show piece. (it did make the machine look 
different. and in a good way.) My point is two fold,  #1 is, If size is a 
problem (stopping you form making your own equipment) for Your Legacy's Z axis, 
you could always go smaller with a Die-grinder or Dermal (another cutting 
method then using a large router motor) Remember this Z Axis dose not need to 
be a completely solid carriage, to replace what you have on your machine now, 
but It could be an add-on, that could be used only when you need to use it.   
"YOU" do not have to throw out the baby out with the bath water, so to speak 
just to build something new. And #2 daring to be different just might help you, 
and others GROW, By breaking the mold, "So to speak", You can start looking at 
things that you could have never done or seen doing, By using the same things 
the same old ways.
Have a good night.
C.A.G.
On Thursday, February 24, 2022, 07:16:58 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
 wrote:  
 
 Good thoughts Curt,
This thread is a good example of one idea leading to another as I hadn’t 
intended on suggesting CNC to create the tilting base plate but you are right. 
At some point there are enough building blocks in the right format (or close 
enough to convert it to) in order to go that way if those equipment resources 
are available. If not, you can still cut it out by hand. 
My original intent was to highlight that some of the design work may already be 
accessible verses trying a few different iterations bouncing around in my head 
and losing time and materials to any prototypes but sometimes we just have to 
go with it too.
Jeff from Connecticut 
Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 24, 2022, at 1:24 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:



 Hello Everyone.Jeff I knew about this. But your comment or perhaps the over 
all tone, here made me wonder. Are these prints well formatted? I mean if they 
are in DFX file, then someone, could take the prints and burn them out of steel 
or alum. with modern CNC equipment, or perhaps a 3 D printer. It just might be 
something to think about?
Years ago there was a company called Gel-bilt, they sold blue prints and some 
parts for making our own woodworking equipment.  I know a man who bought two 
band saw kits, cut them out of 1" plate steel not wood as the plans stated for. 
 and made a One of a kind 4 wheel, bandsaw, It was huge! My first table saw was 
a Gel-bilt 10" circler saw. (I all ways wanted to buy there lathe/drill press 
kit, but never did.) http://gilliom-gil-bilt-tool-hunter.blogspot.com/ 
When there is a will, There is ALWAYS a WAY, To get the job done. sometimes you 
need to think outside the box. And do it your own way. ;-)
Have a good night.
C.A.G.
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Good find jeff it gives a starting point to a possible all wood tilting Z axis

  

I chose aluminium at the time because of the limited space between the legacy 
rails I needed as much room as possible for movement but retaining as much 
rigidity as possible, choosing the smallest router possible that accepts ½ inch 
router bits also helps with room to manipulate the cutter during milling too

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Thursday, 24 February 2022 10:11 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: M

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-24 Thread Jeff Richmond 
Good thoughts Curt,

This thread is a good example of one idea leading to another as I hadn’t 
intended on suggesting CNC to create the tilting base plate but you are right. 

At some point there are enough building blocks in the right format (or close 
enough to convert it to) in order to go that way if those equipment resources 
are available. If not, you can still cut it out by hand. 

My original intent was to highlight that some of the design work may already be 
accessible verses trying a few different iterations bouncing around in my head 
and losing time and materials to any prototypes but sometimes we just have to 
go with it too.

Jeff from Connecticut 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 24, 2022, at 1:24 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Everyone.
> Jeff I knew about this. But your comment or perhaps the over all tone, here 
> made me wonder. Are these prints well formatted? I mean if they are in DFX 
> file, then someone, could take the prints and burn them out of steel or alum. 
> with modern CNC equipment, or perhaps a 3 D printer. It just might be 
> something to think about?
> 
> Years ago there was a company called Gel-bilt, they sold blue prints and some 
> parts for making our own woodworking equipment.  I know a man who bought two 
> band saw kits, cut them out of 1" plate steel not wood as the plans stated 
> for.  and made a One of a kind 4 wheel, bandsaw, It was huge! 
> My first table saw was a Gel-bilt 10" circler saw. (I all ways wanted to buy 
> there lathe/drill press kit, but never did.) 
> http://gilliom-gil-bilt-tool-hunter.blogspot.com/ 
> 
> When there is a will, There is ALWAYS a WAY, To get the job done. 
> sometimes you need to think outside the box. And do it your own way. ;-)
> 
> Have a good night.
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 09:51:13 PM EST,  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Good find jeff it gives a starting point to a possible all wood tilting Z axis
> 
>  
> 
> I chose aluminium at the time because of the limited space between the legacy 
> rails I needed as much room as possible for movement but retaining as much 
> rigidity as possible, choosing the smallest router possible that accepts ½ 
> inch router bits also helps with room to manipulate the cutter during milling 
> too
> 
>  
> 
> Bill
> 
>  
> 
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
> Sent: Thursday, 24 February 2022 10:11 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
> 
>  
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
>  
> 
> I bumped into some of the same information that could likely be modified for 
> use with the Legacy router carriage. It looks like the plans are available to 
> purchase as well to cut down on the engineering and time.
> 
>  
> 
> https://woodgears.ca/router_lift/index.html
> 
> Jeff from Connecticut 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 23, 2022, at 10:40 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hello Bill
> 
>  
> 
> Not quite the same things, but these video's do cover some of the idea you 
> are talking about.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-FxDj10Fhc
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYHGEqxW6ws
> 
>  
> 
> They also show for those who want to try building our own tilting router 
> mount, you DO NOT have to use steel or Alum. to get the job done. 
> 
>  
> 
> Matthias Wandel made his router mount out of wood.
> 
>  
> 
> Have a great day.
> 
>  
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 02:03:02 AM EST,  
> wrote:
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> This is the bit I would try for nice contour internal cuts with a template 
> bearing removed and with the bearing spigot drilled away. Like for the inside 
> of goblets I would also tilt the router to the right or left a bit to gain 
> deeper than the opening as many goblets are. This idea has been rattling 
> round in my head a few times over the years but as usual its on my to try 
> this list lol, I get crazy ideas in my head and sometimes some of them 
> actually work and I ones that don’t I just don’t talk about lol  Bill
>  
> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2022 4:56 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
>  
> Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into more 
> very soon. ;-)
>  
> Thanks Bill
>  
> C.A.G.
>  
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST,  wrote:
>  
>  
> Also Tim don’t r

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-24 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Pretty cool web site. Nice equipment too.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 12:24 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
> Jeff I knew about this. But your comment or perhaps the over all tone,
> here made me wonder. Are these prints well formatted? I mean if they are in
> DFX file, then someone, could take the prints and burn them out of steel or
> alum. with modern CNC equipment, or perhaps a 3 D printer. It just might be
> something to think about?
>
> Years ago there was a company called Gel-bilt, they sold blue prints and
> some parts for making our own woodworking equipment.  I know a man who
> bought two band saw kits, cut them out of 1" plate steel not wood as the
> plans stated for.  and made a One of a kind 4 wheel, bandsaw, It was huge!
> My first table saw was a Gel-bilt 10" circler saw. (I all ways wanted to
> buy there lathe/drill press kit, but never did.)
> http://gilliom-gil-bilt-tool-hunter.blogspot.com/
>
> When there is a will, There is ALWAYS a WAY, To get the job done.
> sometimes you need to think outside the box. And do it your own way. ;-)
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 09:51:13 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Good find jeff it gives a starting point to a possible all wood tilting Z
> axis
>
>
>
> I chose aluminium at the time because of the limited space between the
> legacy rails I needed as much room as possible for movement but retaining
> as much rigidity as possible, choosing the smallest router possible that
> accepts ½ inch router bits also helps with room to manipulate the cutter
> during milling too
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Thursday, 24 February 2022 10:11 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> I bumped into some of the same information that could likely be modified
> for use with the Legacy router carriage. It looks like the plans are
> available to purchase as well to cut down on the engineering and time.
>
>
>
> https://woodgears.ca/router_lift/index.html
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Feb 23, 2022, at 10:40 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hello Bill
>
>
>
> Not quite the same things, but these video's do cover some of the idea you
> are talking about.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-FxDj10Fhc
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYHGEqxW6ws
>
>
>
> They also show for those who want to try building our own tilting router
> mount, you DO NOT have to use steel or Alum. to get the job done.
>
>
>
> Matthias Wandel made his router mount out of wood.
>
>
>
> Have a great day.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 02:03:02 AM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> This is the bit I would try for nice contour internal cuts with a template
> bearing removed and with the bearing spigot drilled away. Like for the
> inside of goblets I would also tilt the router to the right or left a bit
> to gain deeper than the opening as many goblets are. This idea has been
> rattling round in my head a few times over the years but as usual its on my
> to try this list lol, I get crazy ideas in my head and sometimes some of
> them actually work and I ones that don’t I just don’t talk about lol
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 February 2022 4:56 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into
> more very soon. ;-)
>
>
>
> Thanks Bill
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with
> horizontal milling
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-23 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Hello Everyone.Jeff I knew about this. But your comment or perhaps the over 
all tone, here made me wonder. Are these prints well formatted? I mean if they 
are in DFX file, then someone, could take the prints and burn them out of steel 
or alum. with modern CNC equipment, or perhaps a 3 D printer. It just might be 
something to think about?
Years ago there was a company called Gel-bilt, they sold blue prints and some 
parts for making our own woodworking equipment.  I know a man who bought two 
band saw kits, cut them out of 1" plate steel not wood as the plans stated for. 
 and made a One of a kind 4 wheel, bandsaw, It was huge! My first table saw was 
a Gel-bilt 10" circler saw. (I all ways wanted to buy there lathe/drill press 
kit, but never did.) http://gilliom-gil-bilt-tool-hunter.blogspot.com/ 
When there is a will, There is ALWAYS a WAY, To get the job done. sometimes you 
need to think outside the box. And do it your own way. ;-)
Have a good night.
C.A.G.
On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 09:51:13 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
Good find jeff it gives a starting point to a possible all wood tilting Z axis

  

I chose aluminium at the time because of the limited space between the legacy 
rails I needed as much room as possible for movement but retaining as much 
rigidity as possible, choosing the smallest router possible that accepts ½ inch 
router bits also helps with room to manipulate the cutter during milling too

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Thursday, 24 February 2022 10:11 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

  

Hello Everyone,

  

I bumped into some of the same information that could likely be modified for 
use with the Legacy router carriage. It looks like the plans are available to 
purchase as well to cut down on the engineering and time.

  

https://woodgears.ca/router_lift/index.html

Jeff from Connecticut 

Sent from my iPhone






On Feb 23, 2022, at 10:40 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:





Hello Bill

  

Not quite the same things, but these video's do cover some of the idea you are 
talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-FxDj10Fhc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYHGEqxW6ws

  

They also show for those who want to try building our own tilting router mount, 
you DO NOT have to use steel or Alum. to get the job done. 

  

Matthias Wandel made his router mount out of wood.

  

Have a great day.

  

C.A.G.

  

  

  

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 02:03:02 AM EST,  
wrote: 

  

  

This is the bit I would try for nice contour internal cuts with a template 
bearing removed and with the bearing spigot drilled away. Like for the inside 
of goblets I would also tilt the router to the right or left a bit to gain 
deeper than the opening as many goblets are. This idea has been rattling round 
in my head a few times over the years but as usual its on my to try this list 
lol, I get crazy ideas in my head and sometimes some of them actually work and 
I ones that don’t I just don’t talk about lol  Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2022 4:56 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into more 
very soon. ;-)

 

Thanks Bill

 

C.A.G.

 

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST,  wrote: 

 

 

Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with 
horizontal milling

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared to 
the Horizontal positioning.

I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly make 
with it compared to the Lathe. 

Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting tonight so 
may not get any play time

Then try the rotary table. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:


Wow. That is a very real possibility.

 

I have different bits that could do something like this.  

 

The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy user 
could do it. 

Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST,  wrote: 

 

 

Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like this 
next that was done with different profile router bits

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: M

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-23 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Nice find Jeff,

I actually was watching some of one of those videos at lunch time.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 5:10 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I bumped into some of the same information that could likely be modified
> for use with the Legacy router carriage. It looks like the plans are
> available to purchase as well to cut down on the engineering and time.
>
> https://woodgears.ca/router_lift/index.html
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 23, 2022, at 10:40 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Hello Bill
>
> Not quite the same things, but these video's do cover some of the idea you
> are talking about.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-FxDj10Fhc
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYHGEqxW6ws
>
> They also show for those who want to try building our own tilting router
> mount, you DO NOT have to use steel or Alum. to get the job done.
>
> Matthias Wandel made his router mount out of wood.
>
> Have a great day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 02:03:02 AM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> This is the bit I would try for nice contour internal cuts with a template
> bearing removed and with the bearing spigot drilled away. Like for the
> inside of goblets I would also tilt the router to the right or left a bit
> to gain deeper than the opening as many goblets are. This idea has been
> rattling round in my head a few times over the years but as usual its on my
> to try this list lol, I get crazy ideas in my head and sometimes some of
> them actually work and I ones that don’t I just don’t talk about lol
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 February 2022 4:56 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into
> more very soon. ;-)
>
>
>
> Thanks Bill
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with
> horizontal milling
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared
> to the Horizontal positioning.
>
> I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly
> make with it compared to the Lathe.
>
> Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting
> tonight so may not get any play time
>
> Then try the rotary table.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Wow. That is a very real possibility.
>
>
>
> I have different bits that could do something like this.
>
>
>
> The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy
> user could do it.
>
> Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like
> this next that was done with different profile router bits
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Thank you Bill
>
>
>
> Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked
> very well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the
> near future? ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I
> really started something when I made my first one all those years ago
>
>

RE: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-23 Thread bulkeley 
Good find jeff it gives a starting point to a possible all wood tilting Z axis

 

I chose aluminium at the time because of the limited space between the legacy 
rails I needed as much room as possible for movement but retaining as much 
rigidity as possible, choosing the smallest router possible that accepts ½ inch 
router bits also helps with room to manipulate the cutter during milling too

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Thursday, 24 February 2022 10:11 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Hello Everyone,

 

I bumped into some of the same information that could likely be modified for 
use with the Legacy router carriage. It looks like the plans are available to 
purchase as well to cut down on the engineering and time.

 

https://woodgears.ca/router_lift/index.html

Jeff from Connecticut 

Sent from my iPhone





On Feb 23, 2022, at 10:40 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



Hello Bill

 

Not quite the same things, but these video's do cover some of the idea you are 
talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-FxDj10Fhc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYHGEqxW6ws

 

They also show for those who want to try building our own tilting router mount, 
you DO NOT have to use steel or Alum. to get the job done. 

 

Matthias Wandel made his router mount out of wood.

 

Have a great day.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 02:03:02 AM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

This is the bit I would try for nice contour internal cuts with a template 
bearing removed and with the bearing spigot drilled away. Like for the inside 
of goblets I would also tilt the router to the right or left a bit to gain 
deeper than the opening as many goblets are. This idea has been rattling round 
in my head a few times over the years but as usual its on my to try this list 
lol, I get crazy ideas in my head and sometimes some of them actually work and 
I ones that don’t I just don’t talk about lol  Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2022 4:56 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into more 
very soon. ;-)

 

Thanks Bill

 

C.A.G.

 

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with 
horizontal milling

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
To: LOM Group mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared to 
the Horizontal positioning.

I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly make 
with it compared to the Lathe. 

Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting tonight so 
may not get any play time

Then try the rotary table. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Wow. That is a very real possibility.

 

I have different bits that could do something like this.  

 

The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy user 
could do it. 

Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like this 
next that was done with different profile router bits

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Thank you Bill

 

Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
future? ;-)

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I really 
started something when I made my first one all those year

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-23 Thread M.W.Foscue 
Very nice, Jeff.
Thanks for posting it!
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Feb 23, 2022 6:10 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
 
Hello Everyone, 
I bumped into some of the same information that could likely be modified for 
use with the Legacy router carriage. It looks like the plans are available to 
purchase as well to cut down on the engineering and time. 
https://woodgears.ca/router_lift/index.html

Jeff from Connecticut 
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 23, 2022, at 10:40 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:


 
Hello Bill
 
Not quite the same things, but these video's do cover some of the idea you are 
talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-FxDj10Fhc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYHGEqxW6ws
 
They also show for those who want to try building our own tilting router mount, 
you DO NOT have to use steel or Alum. to get the job done.  
Matthias Wandel made his router mount out of wood.

 
Have a great day.
 
C.A.G.
 


 
 

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 02:03:02 AM EST,  wrote:
 
 
This is the bit I would try for nice contour internal cuts with a template 
bearing removed and with the bearing spigot drilled away. Like for the inside 
of goblets I would also tilt the router to the right or left a bit to gain 
deeper than the opening as many goblets are. This idea has been rattling round 
in my head a few times over the years but as usual its on my to try this list 
lol, I get crazy ideas in my head and sometimes some of them actually work and 
I ones that don’t I just don’t talk about lol  Bill
  
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 
2022 4:56 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: My first 
Legacy box.


 
Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into more 
very soon. ;-)

  

Thanks Bill

  

C.A.G.

  


On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST,  wrote: 

  

  

Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with 
horizontal milling
 
Bill
 
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)  On Behalf Of Tim 
ZieglerSent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PMTo: LOM Group Subject: Re: My 
first Legacy box.

 
I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared to 
the Horizontal positioning.
I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly make 
with it compared to the Lathe. 

Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting tonight so 
may not get any play time

Then try the rotary table. 
Kind Regards,
 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell




 


 
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  
wrote:

Wow. That is a very real possibility.

 

I have different bits that could do something like this.  

 

The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy user 
could do it. 

Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 


On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST,  wrote: 

 

 

Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like this 
next that was done with different profile router bits
 
Bill
 
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 
2022 2:04 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)Subject: Re: My first Legacy 
box.


 
Thank you Bill

 

Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
future? ;-)

 

C.A.G.


On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST,  wrote: 

 

 

Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I really 
started something when I made my first one all those years ago 
 
Bill
 
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 
2022 12:46 PMTo: Legacy ornamental mills Subject: My first Legacy box.


 
Hello Everyone.

 

Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)

 

This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
but its a good starting point, for me .

This was a lathe & Legacy job.

First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to the 
Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some sanding.

The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group, just 
after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque isle . 
the bag was Kingsford Mustique.

 

I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the next 
time I will do better?

Please let me know what you think?

 

C.A.G.


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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-23 Thread Jeff Richmond 
Hello Everyone,

I bumped into some of the same information that could likely be modified for 
use with the Legacy router carriage. It looks like the plans are available to 
purchase as well to cut down on the engineering and time.

https://woodgears.ca/router_lift/index.html

Jeff from Connecticut 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 23, 2022, at 10:40 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Bill
> 
> Not quite the same things, but these video's do cover some of the idea you 
> are talking about.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-FxDj10Fhc
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYHGEqxW6ws
> 
> They also show for those who want to try building our own tilting router 
> mount, you DO NOT have to use steel or Alum. to get the job done. 
> 
> Matthias Wandel made his router mount out of wood.
> 
> Have a great day.
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 02:03:02 AM EST,  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> This is the bit I would try for nice contour internal cuts with a template 
> bearing removed and with the bearing spigot drilled away. Like for the inside 
> of goblets I would also tilt the router to the right or left a bit to gain 
> deeper than the opening as many goblets are. This idea has been rattling 
> round in my head a few times over the years but as usual its on my to try 
> this list lol, I get crazy ideas in my head and sometimes some of them 
> actually work and I ones that don’t I just don’t talk about lol  Bill
> 
>  
> 
> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2022 4:56 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
> 
>  
> 
> Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into more 
> very soon. ;-)
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks Bill
> 
>  
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
>  
> 
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST,  wrote:
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with 
> horizontal milling
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
> To: LOM Group 
> Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
>  
> I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared to 
> the Horizontal positioning.
> I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly make 
> with it compared to the Lathe. 
> Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting tonight 
> so may not get any play time
> Then try the rotary table. 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> Wow. That is a very real possibility.
>  
> I have different bits that could do something like this.  
>  
> The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy 
> user could do it. 
> Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)
>  
> C.A.G.
>  
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST,  wrote:
>  
>  
> Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like this 
> next that was done with different profile router bits
> 
>  
> 
> Bill
> 
>  
> 
> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you Bill
> 
>  
> 
> Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
> well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
> future? ;-)
> 
>  
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
> On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST,  wrote:
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I really 
> started something when I made my first one all those years ago
> 
>  
> 
> Bill
> 
>  
> 
> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
> To: Legacy ornamental mills 
> Subject: My first Legacy box.
> 
>  
> 
> Hello Everyone.
> 
>  
> 
> Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)
> 
>  
> 
> This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
> but its a good starting point, for me .
> 
> This was a lathe & Legacy job.
> 
> First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched i

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-23 Thread M.W.Foscue 
Curtis,
You are as smart as I thought you were - "The garage was not designed for a 
car"!  LoL!
Smooth move back the Curtis!
Ya better hope your wife doesn't read these posts!
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Feb 23, 2022 10:43 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
 
 
Tim.
I told my wife, that the garage was not designed for a car. its been 30+ years 
now, and no vehicles have gone into the garage at all.  Give her a car port and 
use your extra space for your toys! ;-p
 
C.A.G.
 

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 06:58:29 AM EST, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
 
 
I would have to buy another LOM if I were to do Curts machine, but maybe just 
maybe I better not, my wifes vehicle would have to sit outside too much so 
that may not fly lol. Kind Regards, 
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
 
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell





On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 1:17 AM  wrote:
I spent nothing on my first z axis I had all the materials laying around my 
shop I was lucky with that I still like my original version the best 
 
Bill
 
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 
2022 5:32 PMTo: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: My first 
Legacy box.


 
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hswsexx3NOw 

The 4D clone copier is the base design for my Z axis on my machine.  BUT I went 
with R and not the spring and counter weights.  The machine (4D) is sold as a 
kit and you need to assemble it or make all the part for yourself. 

 

 

ONE Note. I took a photo of the 4D off the computer, and then blew it up and 
printed it onto paper, then I glued the paper into the alum. then cutting just 
out side the lines with my bandsaw, then sanded everything to size, rough 
fitting the parts and then re-working it all to fit with my set-up. 

 

Now Both Bill's mod. and Tim Z. mod. might work better for you. depending on 
how far you want to go in re-working your Legacy.

Tim's Mod. is something that you can make/buy and just add to your machine and 
remove when not in use. That is a very good and easy solution that doesn't need 
a lot of  work to make it useable for you.

 

NOW if you are worried about cost. Tim's method may be more money, Since you 
are buying someone machine and modifying it to fit your use. 
https://www.amazon.com/Woodhaven-6000-Horizontal-Router-Table/dp/B004BUGVLC/ref=sr_1_4?crid=37JGVZXSVV36I=horizontal+router=1645597738=horizontal+router+%2Caps%2C96=8-4
 

 

I don't know what Bill spent on his first Z axis.

 

But I bought a 1/2" Alum. plate for $60.00, used my Shop Smith to cut and drill 
and sand the alum.

the Linear rails were under $100.00, the motor mounting was a gift. (no idea of 
the cost? but I would  think $30.00) So my set-up cost me appx. $200.00 to make.

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

 


On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 01:05:09 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote: 

 

 

Denson. this is one video that got me thinking about making my Legacy 20/20, 
differently from what was done before. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IIh-udBkvY  

 

C.A.G.

 


On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 12:55:49 AM EST, Curt George  wrote: 

 

 

Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into more 
very soon. ;-)

 

Thanks Bill

 

C.A.G.

 


On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST,  wrote: 

 

 

Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with 
horizontal milling
 
Bill
 
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)  On Behalf Of Tim 
ZieglerSent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PMTo: LOM Group Subject: Re: My 
first Legacy box.

 
I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared to 
the Horizontal positioning.
I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly make 
with it compared to the Lathe. 

Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting tonight so 
may not get any play time

Then try the rotary table. 
Kind Regards,
 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell




 


 
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  
wrote:

Wow. That is a very real possibility.

 

I have different bits that could do something like this.  

 

The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy user 
could do it. 

Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 


On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST,  wrote: 

 

 

Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like this 
next that was done with different profile router bits
 
Bill
 
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 
2022 2:04 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegro

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-23 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Thanks guys for all the great info.
Denson 

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Feb 23, 2022, at 11:20 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes and very sorry you lost so much. 
> Thanks for showing the pix to help stimulate some added interest in this 
> process.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 10:46 AM  wrote:
>> I miss this z axis I always intended to make another some day 
>> https://ornamentalmills.com/Bill_Bulkeley/tilting-z-axis/index.html
>> 
>> I don’t have any other pics I wish I did I lost them in the fire
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2022 10:56 PM
>> To: LOM Group 
>> Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Better show some pix again Bill your's is what stimulated my idea. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 1:17 AM  wrote:
>> 
>> I spent nothing on my first z axis I had all the materials laying around my 
>> shop I was lucky with that I still like my original version the best
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  
>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2022 5:32 PM
>> To: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hswsexx3NOw 
>> 
>> The 4D clone copier is the base design for my Z axis on my machine.  BUT I 
>> went with R and not the spring and counter weights.  The machine (4D) is 
>> sold as a kit and you need to assemble it or make all the part for yourself. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> ONE Note. I took a photo of the 4D off the computer, and then blew it up and 
>> printed it onto paper, then I glued the paper into the alum. then cutting 
>> just out side the lines with my bandsaw, then sanded everything to size, 
>> rough fitting the parts and then re-working it all to fit with my set-up. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Now Both Bill's mod. and Tim Z. mod. might work better for you. depending on 
>> how far you want to go in re-working your Legacy.
>> 
>> Tim's Mod. is something that you can make/buy and just add to your machine 
>> and remove when not in use. That is a very good and easy solution that 
>> doesn't need a lot of  work to make it useable for you.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> NOW if you are worried about cost. Tim's method may be more money, Since you 
>> are buying someone machine and modifying it to fit your use. 
>> https://www.amazon.com/Woodhaven-6000-Horizontal-Router-Table/dp/B004BUGVLC/ref=sr_1_4?crid=37JGVZXSVV36I=horizontal+router=1645597738=horizontal+router+%2Caps%2C96=8-4
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I don't know what Bill spent on his first Z axis.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> But I bought a 1/2" Alum. plate for $60.00, used my Shop Smith to cut and 
>> drill and sand the alum.
>> 
>> the Linear rails were under $100.00, the motor mounting was a gift. (no idea 
>> of the cost? but I would  think $30.00) So my set-up cost me appx. $200.00 
>> to make.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Have a good night.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 01:05:09 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
>> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Denson. this is one video that got me thinking about making my Legacy 20/20, 
>> differently from what was done before. 
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IIh-udBkvY  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 12:55:49 AM EST, Curt George 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into more 
>> very soon. ;-)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>>

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-23 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Yes and very sorry you lost so much.
Thanks for showing the pix to help stimulate some added interest in this
process.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 10:46 AM  wrote:

> I miss this z axis I always intended to make another some day
> https://ornamentalmills.com/Bill_Bulkeley/tilting-z-axis/index.html
>
> I don’t have any other pics I wish I did I lost them in the fire
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 February 2022 10:56 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Better show some pix again Bill your's is what stimulated my idea.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 1:17 AM  wrote:
>
> I spent nothing on my first z axis I had all the materials laying around
> my shop I was lucky with that I still like my original version the best
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 February 2022 5:32 PM
> *To:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hswsexx3NOw
>
> The 4D clone copier is the base design for my Z axis on my machine.  BUT I
> went with R and not the spring and counter weights.  The machine (4D) is
> sold as a kit and you need to assemble it or make all the part for
> yourself.
>
>
>
>
>
> ONE Note. I took a photo of the 4D off the computer, and then blew it up
> and printed it onto paper, then I glued the paper into the alum. then
> cutting just out side the lines with my bandsaw, then sanded everything to
> size, rough fitting the parts and then re-working it all to fit with my
> set-up.
>
>
>
> Now Both Bill's mod. and Tim Z. mod. might work better for you. depending
> on how far you want to go in re-working your Legacy.
>
> Tim's Mod. is something that you can make/buy and just add to your machine
> and remove when not in use. That is a very good and easy solution that
> doesn't need a lot of  work to make it useable for you.
>
>
>
> NOW if you are worried about cost. Tim's method may be more money, Since
> you are buying someone machine and modifying it to fit your use.
> https://www.amazon.com/Woodhaven-6000-Horizontal-Router-Table/dp/B004BUGVLC/ref=sr_1_4?crid=37JGVZXSVV36I=horizontal+router=1645597738=horizontal+router+%2Caps%2C96=8-4
>
>
>
>
> I don't know what Bill spent on his first Z axis.
>
>
>
> But I bought a 1/2" Alum. plate for $60.00, used my Shop Smith to cut and
> drill and sand the alum.
>
> the Linear rails were under $100.00, the motor mounting was a gift. (no
> idea of the cost? but I would  think $30.00) So my set-up cost me appx.
> $200.00 to make.
>
>
>
> Have a good night.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 01:05:09 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Denson. this is one video that got me thinking about making my Legacy
> 20/20, differently from what was done before.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IIh-udBkvY
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 12:55:49 AM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into
> more very soon. ;-)
>
>
>
> Thanks Bill
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with
> horizontal milling
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared
> to the Horizontal positioning.
>
> I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly
> make with it compared to the Lathe.
>
> Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-23 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Yeah with all my buildings and I kicked her out of the garage, I think
she'd tell me to keep my Truck outside.
I already make her park next to the WoodChuck and my shopsmith because
there's no room in my shop for them.
I agree though we have to have a place for our stuff. lol

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 9:43 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Tim.
> I told my wife, that the garage was not designed for a car. its been 30+
> years now, and no vehicles have gone into the garage at all.  Give her a
> car port and use your extra space for your toys! ;-p
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 06:58:29 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I would have to buy another LOM if I were to do Curts machine, but maybe
> just maybe
> I better not, my wifes vehicle would have to sit outside too much so that
> may not fly lol.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 1:17 AM  wrote:
>
> I spent nothing on my first z axis I had all the materials laying around
> my shop I was lucky with that I still like my original version the best
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 February 2022 5:32 PM
> *To:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hswsexx3NOw
>
> The 4D clone copier is the base design for my Z axis on my machine.  BUT I
> went with R and not the spring and counter weights.  The machine (4D) is
> sold as a kit and you need to assemble it or make all the part for
> yourself.
>
>
>
>
>
> ONE Note. I took a photo of the 4D off the computer, and then blew it up
> and printed it onto paper, then I glued the paper into the alum. then
> cutting just out side the lines with my bandsaw, then sanded everything to
> size, rough fitting the parts and then re-working it all to fit with my
> set-up.
>
>
>
> Now Both Bill's mod. and Tim Z. mod. might work better for you. depending
> on how far you want to go in re-working your Legacy.
>
> Tim's Mod. is something that you can make/buy and just add to your machine
> and remove when not in use. That is a very good and easy solution that
> doesn't need a lot of  work to make it useable for you.
>
>
>
> NOW if you are worried about cost. Tim's method may be more money, Since
> you are buying someone machine and modifying it to fit your use.
> https://www.amazon.com/Woodhaven-6000-Horizontal-Router-Table/dp/B004BUGVLC/ref=sr_1_4?crid=37JGVZXSVV36I=horizontal+router=1645597738=horizontal+router+%2Caps%2C96=8-4
>
>
>
>
> I don't know what Bill spent on his first Z axis.
>
>
>
> But I bought a 1/2" Alum. plate for $60.00, used my Shop Smith to cut and
> drill and sand the alum.
>
> the Linear rails were under $100.00, the motor mounting was a gift. (no
> idea of the cost? but I would  think $30.00) So my set-up cost me appx.
> $200.00 to make.
>
>
>
> Have a good night.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 01:05:09 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Denson. this is one video that got me thinking about making my Legacy
> 20/20, differently from what was done before.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IIh-udBkvY
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 12:55:49 AM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into
> more very soon. ;-)
>
>
>
> Thanks Bill
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with
> horizontal milling
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared
> to the Horizontal positioning.
>
>

RE: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-23 Thread bulkeley 
I miss this z axis I always intended to make another some day 
https://ornamentalmills.com/Bill_Bulkeley/tilting-z-axis/index.html

I don’t have any other pics I wish I did I lost them in the fire

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2022 10:56 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Better show some pix again Bill your's is what stimulated my idea. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 1:17 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I spent nothing on my first z axis I had all the materials laying around my 
shop I was lucky with that I still like my original version the best 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2022 5:32 PM
To: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hswsexx3NOw 

The 4D clone copier is the base design for my Z axis on my machine.  BUT I went 
with R and not the spring and counter weights.  The machine (4D) is sold as a 
kit and you need to assemble it or make all the part for yourself. 

 

 

ONE Note. I took a photo of the 4D off the computer, and then blew it up and 
printed it onto paper, then I glued the paper into the alum. then cutting just 
out side the lines with my bandsaw, then sanded everything to size, rough 
fitting the parts and then re-working it all to fit with my set-up. 

 

Now Both Bill's mod. and Tim Z. mod. might work better for you. depending on 
how far you want to go in re-working your Legacy.

Tim's Mod. is something that you can make/buy and just add to your machine and 
remove when not in use. That is a very good and easy solution that doesn't need 
a lot of  work to make it useable for you.

 

NOW if you are worried about cost. Tim's method may be more money, Since you 
are buying someone machine and modifying it to fit your use. 
https://www.amazon.com/Woodhaven-6000-Horizontal-Router-Table/dp/B004BUGVLC/ref=sr_1_4?crid=37JGVZXSVV36I
 
<https://www.amazon.com/Woodhaven-6000-Horizontal-Router-Table/dp/B004BUGVLC/ref=sr_1_4?crid=37JGVZXSVV36I=horizontal+router=1645597738=horizontal+router+%2Caps%2C96=8-4>
 
=horizontal+router=1645597738=horizontal+router+%2Caps%2C96=8-4
   <https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41x5DE12GLL._AC_US40_.jpg> 

 

I don't know what Bill spent on his first Z axis.

 

But I bought a 1/2" Alum. plate for $60.00, used my Shop Smith to cut and drill 
and sand the alum.

the Linear rails were under $100.00, the motor mounting was a gift. (no idea of 
the cost? but I would  think $30.00) So my set-up cost me appx. $200.00 to make.

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 01:05:09 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Denson. this is one video that got me thinking about making my Legacy 20/20, 
differently from what was done before. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IIh-udBkvY  

 

C.A.G.

 

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 12:55:49 AM EST, Curt George 
mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into more 
very soon. ;-)

 

Thanks Bill

 

C.A.G.

 

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with 
horizontal milling

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
To: LOM Group mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared to 
the Horizontal positioning.

I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly make 
with it compared to the Lathe. 

Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting tonight so 
may not get any play time

Then try the rotary table. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Wow. That is a very real possibility.

 

I have different bits that could do something like this.  

 

The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy user 
could do it. 

Who is up for a

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-23 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Tim.I told my wife, that the garage was not designed for a car. its been 30+ 
years now, and no vehicles have gone into the garage at all.  Give her a car 
port and use your extra space for your toys! ;-p
C.A.G.
On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 06:58:29 AM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 I would have to buy another LOM if I were to do Curts machine, but maybe just 
maybe I better not, my wifes vehicle would have to sit outside too much so 
that may not fly lol. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 1:17 AM  wrote:


I spent nothing on my first z axis I had all the materials laying around my 
shop I was lucky with that I still like my original version the best 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2022 5:32 PM
To: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hswsexx3NOw 

The 4D clone copier is the base design for my Z axis on my machine.  BUT I went 
with R and not the spring and counter weights.  The machine (4D) is sold as a 
kit and you need to assemble it or make all the part for yourself. 

 

 

ONE Note. I took a photo of the 4D off the computer, and then blew it up and 
printed it onto paper, then I glued the paper into the alum. then cutting just 
out side the lines with my bandsaw, then sanded everything to size, rough 
fitting the parts and then re-working it all to fit with my set-up. 

 

Now Both Bill's mod. and Tim Z. mod. might work better for you. depending on 
how far you want to go in re-working your Legacy.

Tim's Mod. is something that you can make/buy and just add to your machine and 
remove when not in use. That is a very good and easy solution that doesn't need 
a lot of  work to make it useable for you.

 

NOW if you are worried about cost. Tim's method may be more money, Since you 
are buying someone machine and modifying it to fit your use. 
https://www.amazon.com/Woodhaven-6000-Horizontal-Router-Table/dp/B004BUGVLC/ref=sr_1_4?crid=37JGVZXSVV36I=horizontal+router=1645597738=horizontal+router+%2Caps%2C96=8-4
 

 

I don't know what Bill spent on his first Z axis.

 

But I bought a 1/2" Alum. plate for $60.00, used my Shop Smith to cut and drill 
and sand the alum.

the Linear rails were under $100.00, the motor mounting was a gift. (no idea of 
the cost? but I would  think $30.00) So my set-up cost me appx. $200.00 to make.

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 01:05:09 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote: 

 

 

Denson. this is one video that got me thinking about making my Legacy 20/20, 
differently from what was done before. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IIh-udBkvY  

 

C.A.G.

 

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 12:55:49 AM EST, Curt George 
 wrote: 

 

 

Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into more 
very soon. ;-)

 

Thanks Bill

 

C.A.G.

 

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST,  wrote: 

 

 

Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with 
horizontal milling

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared to 
the Horizontal positioning.

I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly make 
with it compared to the Lathe. 

Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting tonight so 
may not get any play time

Then try the rotary table. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:


Wow. That is a very real possibility.

 

I have different bits that could do something like this.  

 

The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy user 
could do it. 

Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST,  wrote: 

 

 

Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like this 
next that was done with different profile router bits

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Thank you Bill

 

Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
future? ;-)

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST,  wrote: 

 

 

Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I re

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-23 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Hello Bill
Not quite the same things, but these video's do cover some of the idea you are 
talking about.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-FxDj10Fhc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYHGEqxW6ws

They also show for those who want to try building our own tilting router mount, 
you DO NOT have to use steel or Alum. to get the job done. 
Matthias Wandel made his router mount out of wood.

Have a great day.
C.A.G.


On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 02:03:02 AM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
This is the bit I would try for nice contour internal cuts with a template 
bearing removed and with the bearing spigot drilled away. Like for the inside 
of goblets I would also tilt the router to the right or left a bit to gain 
deeper than the opening as many goblets are. This idea has been rattling round 
in my head a few times over the years but as usual its on my to try this list 
lol, I get crazy ideas in my head and sometimes some of them actually work and 
I ones that don’t I just don’t talk about lol  Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2022 4:56 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

  

Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into more 
very soon. ;-)

  

Thanks Bill

  

C.A.G.

  

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST,  wrote: 

  

  

Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with 
horizontal milling

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared to 
the Horizontal positioning.

I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly make 
with it compared to the Lathe. 

Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting tonight so 
may not get any play time

Then try the rotary table. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:


Wow. That is a very real possibility.

 

I have different bits that could do something like this.  

 

The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy user 
could do it. 

Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST,  wrote: 

 

 

Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like this 
next that was done with different profile router bits

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Thank you Bill

 

Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
future? ;-)

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST,  wrote: 

 

 

Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I really 
started something when I made my first one all those years ago 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: My first Legacy box.

 

Hello Everyone.

 

Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)

 

This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
but its a good starting point, for me .

This was a lathe & Legacy job.

First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to the 
Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some sanding.

The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group, just 
after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque isle . 
the bag was Kingsford Mustique.

 

I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the next 
time I will do better?

Please let me know what you think?

 

C.A.G.

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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-23 Thread Tim Ziegler 
I would have to buy another LOM if I were to do Curts machine, but maybe
just maybe
I better not, my wifes vehicle would have to sit outside too much so that
may not fly lol.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 1:17 AM  wrote:

> I spent nothing on my first z axis I had all the materials laying around
> my shop I was lucky with that I still like my original version the best
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 February 2022 5:32 PM
> *To:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hswsexx3NOw
>
> The 4D clone copier is the base design for my Z axis on my machine.  BUT I
> went with R and not the spring and counter weights.  The machine (4D) is
> sold as a kit and you need to assemble it or make all the part for
> yourself.
>
>
>
>
>
> ONE Note. I took a photo of the 4D off the computer, and then blew it up
> and printed it onto paper, then I glued the paper into the alum. then
> cutting just out side the lines with my bandsaw, then sanded everything to
> size, rough fitting the parts and then re-working it all to fit with my
> set-up.
>
>
>
> Now Both Bill's mod. and Tim Z. mod. might work better for you. depending
> on how far you want to go in re-working your Legacy.
>
> Tim's Mod. is something that you can make/buy and just add to your machine
> and remove when not in use. That is a very good and easy solution that
> doesn't need a lot of  work to make it useable for you.
>
>
>
> NOW if you are worried about cost. Tim's method may be more money, Since
> you are buying someone machine and modifying it to fit your use.
> https://www.amazon.com/Woodhaven-6000-Horizontal-Router-Table/dp/B004BUGVLC/ref=sr_1_4?crid=37JGVZXSVV36I=horizontal+router=1645597738=horizontal+router+%2Caps%2C96=8-4
>
>
>
>
> I don't know what Bill spent on his first Z axis.
>
>
>
> But I bought a 1/2" Alum. plate for $60.00, used my Shop Smith to cut and
> drill and sand the alum.
>
> the Linear rails were under $100.00, the motor mounting was a gift. (no
> idea of the cost? but I would  think $30.00) So my set-up cost me appx.
> $200.00 to make.
>
>
>
> Have a good night.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 01:05:09 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Denson. this is one video that got me thinking about making my Legacy
> 20/20, differently from what was done before.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IIh-udBkvY
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 12:55:49 AM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into
> more very soon. ;-)
>
>
>
> Thanks Bill
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with
> horizontal milling
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared
> to the Horizontal positioning.
>
> I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly
> make with it compared to the Lathe.
>
> Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting
> tonight so may not get any play time
>
> Then try the rotary table.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Wow. That is a very real possibility.
>
>
>
> I have different bits that could do something like this.
>
>
>
> The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy
> user could do it.
>
> Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022,

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-23 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Better show some pix again Bill your's is what stimulated my idea.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 1:17 AM  wrote:

> I spent nothing on my first z axis I had all the materials laying around
> my shop I was lucky with that I still like my original version the best
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 February 2022 5:32 PM
> *To:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hswsexx3NOw
>
> The 4D clone copier is the base design for my Z axis on my machine.  BUT I
> went with R and not the spring and counter weights.  The machine (4D) is
> sold as a kit and you need to assemble it or make all the part for
> yourself.
>
>
>
>
>
> ONE Note. I took a photo of the 4D off the computer, and then blew it up
> and printed it onto paper, then I glued the paper into the alum. then
> cutting just out side the lines with my bandsaw, then sanded everything to
> size, rough fitting the parts and then re-working it all to fit with my
> set-up.
>
>
>
> Now Both Bill's mod. and Tim Z. mod. might work better for you. depending
> on how far you want to go in re-working your Legacy.
>
> Tim's Mod. is something that you can make/buy and just add to your machine
> and remove when not in use. That is a very good and easy solution that
> doesn't need a lot of  work to make it useable for you.
>
>
>
> NOW if you are worried about cost. Tim's method may be more money, Since
> you are buying someone machine and modifying it to fit your use.
> https://www.amazon.com/Woodhaven-6000-Horizontal-Router-Table/dp/B004BUGVLC/ref=sr_1_4?crid=37JGVZXSVV36I=horizontal+router=1645597738=horizontal+router+%2Caps%2C96=8-4
>
>
>
>
> I don't know what Bill spent on his first Z axis.
>
>
>
> But I bought a 1/2" Alum. plate for $60.00, used my Shop Smith to cut and
> drill and sand the alum.
>
> the Linear rails were under $100.00, the motor mounting was a gift. (no
> idea of the cost? but I would  think $30.00) So my set-up cost me appx.
> $200.00 to make.
>
>
>
> Have a good night.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 01:05:09 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Denson. this is one video that got me thinking about making my Legacy
> 20/20, differently from what was done before.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IIh-udBkvY
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 12:55:49 AM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into
> more very soon. ;-)
>
>
>
> Thanks Bill
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with
> horizontal milling
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared
> to the Horizontal positioning.
>
> I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly
> make with it compared to the Lathe.
>
> Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting
> tonight so may not get any play time
>
> Then try the rotary table.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Wow. That is a very real possibility.
>
>
>
> I have different bits that could do something like this.
>
>
>
> The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy
> user could do it.
>
> Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try somethi

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-23 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Great Choice and nice idea Bill.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 1:03 AM  wrote:

> This is the bit I would try for nice contour internal cuts with a template
> bearing removed and with the bearing spigot drilled away. Like for the
> inside of goblets I would also tilt the router to the right or left a bit
> to gain deeper than the opening as many goblets are. This idea has been
> rattling round in my head a few times over the years but as usual its on my
> to try this list lol, I get crazy ideas in my head and sometimes some of
> them actually work and I ones that don’t I just don’t talk about lol
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 February 2022 4:56 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into
> more very soon. ;-)
>
>
>
> Thanks Bill
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with
> horizontal milling
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared
> to the Horizontal positioning.
>
> I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly
> make with it compared to the Lathe.
>
> Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting
> tonight so may not get any play time
>
> Then try the rotary table.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Wow. That is a very real possibility.
>
>
>
> I have different bits that could do something like this.
>
>
>
> The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy
> user could do it.
>
> Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like
> this next that was done with different profile router bits
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Thank you Bill
>
>
>
> Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked
> very well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the
> near future? ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I
> really started something when I made my first one all those years ago
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
>
>
> Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)
>
>
>
> This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in
> it, but its a good starting point, for me .
>
> This was a lathe & Legacy job.
>
> First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to
> the Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some
> sanding.
>
> The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group,
> just after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque
> isle . the bag was Kingsford Mustique.
>
>
>
> I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the
> next time I will do better?
>
> Please let me know what you think?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> --
>

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-23 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Curt that is exactly what I have on my Machine.
I showed that when I did my build and is the reason I used WoodHavens
products.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 12:48 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Last note before I go to bed.
>
> Just found this.  NOW the price is higher, but this is one Slick machine.
> Just think about what it could do with and on your Legacy.
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Woodhaven-Horizontal-Router-Table-Angle/dp/B004BUGVOO/ref=sr_1_40?keywords=horizontal+router=1645598665=8-40
>
>
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 01:31:51 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hswsexx3NOw
> The 4D clone copier is the base design for my Z axis on my machine.  BUT I
> went with R and not the spring and counter weights.  The machine (4D) is
> sold as a kit and you need to assemble it or make all the part for
> yourself.
>
>
> ONE Note. I took a photo of the 4D off the computer, and then blew it up
> and printed it onto paper, then I glued the paper into the alum. then
> cutting just out side the lines with my bandsaw, then sanded everything to
> size, rough fitting the parts and then re-working it all to fit with my
> set-up.
>
> Now Both Bill's mod. and Tim Z. mod. might work better for you. depending
> on how far you want to go in re-working your Legacy.
> Tim's Mod. is something that you can make/buy and just add to your machine
> and remove when not in use. That is a very good and easy solution that
> doesn't need a lot of  work to make it useable for you.
>
> NOW if you are worried about cost. Tim's method may be more money, Since
> you are buying someone machine and modifying it to fit your use.
> https://www.amazon.com/Woodhaven-6000-Horizontal-Router-Table/dp/B004BUGVLC/ref=sr_1_4?crid=37JGVZXSVV36I=horizontal+router=1645597738=horizontal+router+%2Caps%2C96=8-4
>
>
> I don't know what Bill spent on his first Z axis.
>
> But I bought a 1/2" Alum. plate for $60.00, used my Shop Smith to cut and
> drill and sand the alum.
> the Linear rails were under $100.00, the motor mounting was a gift. (no
> idea of the cost? but I would  think $30.00) So my set-up cost me appx.
> $200.00 to make.
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 01:05:09 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
> Denson. this is one video that got me thinking about making my Legacy
> 20/20, differently from what was done before.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IIh-udBkvY
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 12:55:49 AM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into
> more very soon. ;-)
>
> Thanks Bill
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with
> horizontal milling
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared
> to the Horizontal positioning.
>
> I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly
> make with it compared to the Lathe.
>
> Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting
> tonight so may not get any play time
>
> Then try the rotary table.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Wow. That is a very real possibility.
>
>
>
> I have different bits that could do something like this.
>
>
>
> The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy
> user could do it.
>
> Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like
> this next that was done with different profile router bit

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-23 Thread Tim Ziegler 
The only thing I did not have to buy the table.
I went straight to WoodHaven and told them the parts I would need.
I've bought a lot of jigs from them over the years.
Was a bit cheaper then what Amazon has them for .

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 12:32 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hswsexx3NOw
> The 4D clone copier is the base design for my Z axis on my machine.  BUT I
> went with R and not the spring and counter weights.  The machine (4D) is
> sold as a kit and you need to assemble it or make all the part for
> yourself.
>
>
> ONE Note. I took a photo of the 4D off the computer, and then blew it up
> and printed it onto paper, then I glued the paper into the alum. then
> cutting just out side the lines with my bandsaw, then sanded everything to
> size, rough fitting the parts and then re-working it all to fit with my
> set-up.
>
> Now Both Bill's mod. and Tim Z. mod. might work better for you. depending
> on how far you want to go in re-working your Legacy.
> Tim's Mod. is something that you can make/buy and just add to your machine
> and remove when not in use. That is a very good and easy solution that
> doesn't need a lot of  work to make it useable for you.
>
> NOW if you are worried about cost. Tim's method may be more money, Since
> you are buying someone machine and modifying it to fit your use.
> https://www.amazon.com/Woodhaven-6000-Horizontal-Router-Table/dp/B004BUGVLC/ref=sr_1_4?crid=37JGVZXSVV36I=horizontal+router=1645597738=horizontal+router+%2Caps%2C96=8-4
>
>
> I don't know what Bill spent on his first Z axis.
>
> But I bought a 1/2" Alum. plate for $60.00, used my Shop Smith to cut and
> drill and sand the alum.
> the Linear rails were under $100.00, the motor mounting was a gift. (no
> idea of the cost? but I would  think $30.00) So my set-up cost me appx.
> $200.00 to make.
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 01:05:09 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
> Denson. this is one video that got me thinking about making my Legacy
> 20/20, differently from what was done before.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IIh-udBkvY
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 12:55:49 AM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into
> more very soon. ;-)
>
> Thanks Bill
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with
> horizontal milling
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared
> to the Horizontal positioning.
>
> I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly
> make with it compared to the Lathe.
>
> Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting
> tonight so may not get any play time
>
> Then try the rotary table.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Wow. That is a very real possibility.
>
>
>
> I have different bits that could do something like this.
>
>
>
> The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy
> user could do it.
>
> Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like
> this next that was done with different profile router bits
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Thank you Bill
>
>
>
> Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-23 Thread Tim Ziegler 
And now you know the rest of the story. lol

That is the coolest looking machine and thanks for sharing that video Curt.
I remember when you first shared that. It stimulates the build in us.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 12:05 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Denson. this is one video that got me thinking about making my Legacy
> 20/20, differently from what was done before.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IIh-udBkvY
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 12:55:49 AM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into
> more very soon. ;-)
>
> Thanks Bill
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with
> horizontal milling
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared
> to the Horizontal positioning.
>
> I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly
> make with it compared to the Lathe.
>
> Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting
> tonight so may not get any play time
>
> Then try the rotary table.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Wow. That is a very real possibility.
>
>
>
> I have different bits that could do something like this.
>
>
>
> The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy
> user could do it.
>
> Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like
> this next that was done with different profile router bits
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Thank you Bill
>
>
>
> Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked
> very well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the
> near future? ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I
> really started something when I made my first one all those years ago
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
>
>
> Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)
>
>
>
> This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in
> it, but its a good starting point, for me .
>
> This was a lathe & Legacy job.
>
> First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to
> the Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some
> sanding.
>
> The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group,
> just after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque
> isle . the bag was Kingsford Mustique.
>
>
>
> I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the
> next time I will do better?
>
> Please let me know what you think?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-23 Thread Tim Ziegler 
ok we all have to come out and confess we all do this from time to time and
hope it looks like something when we're done. lol
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 11:35 PM  wrote:

> Believe me there are many times when I have to stop and say to my self how
> the hell am I going to do that lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 February 2022 1:35 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Now Bill are you saying you're a fly by the seat of your pants sorta guy
> lol?
>
> Somehow I don't see that in you with all your innovations and cool
> projects.
>
> I think you're as meticulous as the best of them.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 7:12 PM  wrote:
>
> Hell with me I start with a rough idea of what I’m going to make and
> before I finish the first and each step most of the time I have no idea at
> all of how I’m going to do the next step I’m just a wing  it as I go man
> most of the time lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 February 2022 2:02 AM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Exactly Curt. I do some of my best thinking right before I'm going to do a
> build of sorts.
>
> If I had an idea I write it down or I have it mulling in my head all
> night. But yes I agree to keep the creative
>
> thinking going. Writing things done and lots of good idea's will be born.
>
> When I was building my REVO HYBRID, I had to rethink a lot of the moves I
> needed to make building it.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 8:07 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Rick.
>
>
>
> Your brain and body will work very well together, If you let them.
>
> Since you cant get into the shop now, Think about all the steps you will
> need to take, (A sort of Day Dreaming, so to speak.) See your self, going
> through all the steps, Not just the finishing steps, but the hole process.
>  In this way you still can work out in your shop with out having to do
> anything your body is not ready for.
>
> They have done lots of studies on sports. This method of controlled Day
> Dreaming can and will help you, even when you can not do it for real. If
> you think about it your brain controls your body.  You don't really have to
> be out in the shop to make things. Just think about it.
>
>
>
> I too hope you have a quick recovery.  But don't let your body get in the
> way of you making stuff. ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 08:23:37 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Well I wish you a speedy recovery so you can get out and enjoy that LOM
> time soon.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 6:45 AM Rick Hutley  wrote:
>
> I know what you mean Tim. One of the challenges () with this group is
> the number of amazing ideas for tools and projects that everyone keeps
> coming up with. Once I recover from my recent surgery and am able to get
> back in my workshop, I’m going to have a bewildering number of
> ‘opportunities’ to chose from!
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> On Feb 22, 2022, at 06:46, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Now you guys are making me want to put my horizontal router mount back on.
>
> I opened up one piece with mine and took it off for other projects
> but.....
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell

RE: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread bulkeley 
I spent nothing on my first z axis I had all the materials laying around my 
shop I was lucky with that I still like my original version the best 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2022 5:32 PM
To: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hswsexx3NOw 

The 4D clone copier is the base design for my Z axis on my machine.  BUT I went 
with R and not the spring and counter weights.  The machine (4D) is sold as a 
kit and you need to assemble it or make all the part for yourself. 

 

 

ONE Note. I took a photo of the 4D off the computer, and then blew it up and 
printed it onto paper, then I glued the paper into the alum. then cutting just 
out side the lines with my bandsaw, then sanded everything to size, rough 
fitting the parts and then re-working it all to fit with my set-up. 

 

Now Both Bill's mod. and Tim Z. mod. might work better for you. depending on 
how far you want to go in re-working your Legacy.

Tim's Mod. is something that you can make/buy and just add to your machine and 
remove when not in use. That is a very good and easy solution that doesn't need 
a lot of  work to make it useable for you.

 

NOW if you are worried about cost. Tim's method may be more money, Since you 
are buying someone machine and modifying it to fit your use. 
https://www.amazon.com/Woodhaven-6000-Horizontal-Router-Table/dp/B004BUGVLC/ref=sr_1_4?crid=37JGVZXSVV36I
 
<https://www.amazon.com/Woodhaven-6000-Horizontal-Router-Table/dp/B004BUGVLC/ref=sr_1_4?crid=37JGVZXSVV36I=horizontal+router=1645597738=horizontal+router+%2Caps%2C96=8-4>
 
=horizontal+router=1645597738=horizontal+router+%2Caps%2C96=8-4
   <https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41x5DE12GLL._AC_US40_.jpg> 

 

I don't know what Bill spent on his first Z axis.

 

But I bought a 1/2" Alum. plate for $60.00, used my Shop Smith to cut and drill 
and sand the alum.

the Linear rails were under $100.00, the motor mounting was a gift. (no idea of 
the cost? but I would  think $30.00) So my set-up cost me appx. $200.00 to make.

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 01:05:09 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Denson. this is one video that got me thinking about making my Legacy 20/20, 
differently from what was done before. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IIh-udBkvY  

 

C.A.G.

 

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 12:55:49 AM EST, Curt George 
mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into more 
very soon. ;-)

 

Thanks Bill

 

C.A.G.

 

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with 
horizontal milling

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
To: LOM Group mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared to 
the Horizontal positioning.

I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly make 
with it compared to the Lathe. 

Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting tonight so 
may not get any play time

Then try the rotary table. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Wow. That is a very real possibility.

 

I have different bits that could do something like this.  

 

The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy user 
could do it. 

Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like this 
next that was done with different profile router bits

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Thank you Bill

 

Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
future? ;-)

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 21, 202

RE: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread bulkeley 
This is the bit I would try for nice contour internal cuts with a template 
bearing removed and with the bearing spigot drilled away. Like for the inside 
of goblets I would also tilt the router to the right or left a bit to gain 
deeper than the opening as many goblets are. This idea has been rattling round 
in my head a few times over the years but as usual its on my to try this list 
lol, I get crazy ideas in my head and sometimes some of them actually work and 
I ones that don’t I just don’t talk about lol  Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2022 4:56 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into more 
very soon. ;-)

 

Thanks Bill

 

C.A.G.

 

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with 
horizontal milling

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
To: LOM Group mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared to 
the Horizontal positioning.

I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly make 
with it compared to the Lathe. 

Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting tonight so 
may not get any play time

Then try the rotary table. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Wow. That is a very real possibility.

 

I have different bits that could do something like this.  

 

The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy user 
could do it. 

Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like this 
next that was done with different profile router bits

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Thank you Bill

 

Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
future? ;-)

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I really 
started something when I made my first one all those years ago 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
To: Legacy ornamental mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: My first Legacy box.

 

Hello Everyone.

 

Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)

 

This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
but its a good starting point, for me .

This was a lathe & Legacy job.

First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to the 
Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some sanding.

The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group, just 
after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque isle . 
the bag was Kingsford Mustique.

 

I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the next 
time I will do better?

Please let me know what you think?

 

C.A.G.

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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 A-1 Bill! ;-)
Good night.
C.A.G.
On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 01:47:17 AM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
Who says you cant reinvent the wheel whoever it was didn’t know about our group 
lolol

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2022 5:05 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

  

Denson. this is one video that got me thinking about making my Legacy 20/20, 
differently from what was done before. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IIh-udBkvY  

  

C.A.G.

  

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 12:55:49 AM EST, Curt George 
 wrote: 

  

  

Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into more 
very soon. ;-)

  

Thanks Bill

  

C.A.G.

  

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST,  wrote: 

  

  

Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with 
horizontal milling

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared to 
the Horizontal positioning.

I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly make 
with it compared to the Lathe. 

Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting tonight so 
may not get any play time

Then try the rotary table. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:


Wow. That is a very real possibility.

 

I have different bits that could do something like this.  

 

The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy user 
could do it. 

Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST,  wrote: 

 

 

Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like this 
next that was done with different profile router bits

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Thank you Bill

 

Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
future? ;-)

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST,  wrote: 

 

 

Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I really 
started something when I made my first one all those years ago 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: My first Legacy box.

 

Hello Everyone.

 

Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)

 

This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
but its a good starting point, for me .

This was a lathe & Legacy job.

First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to the 
Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some sanding.

The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group, just 
after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque isle . 
the bag was Kingsford Mustique.

 

I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the next 
time I will do better?

Please let me know what you think?

 

C.A.G.

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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Last note before I go to bed.
Just found this.  NOW the price is higher, but this is one Slick machine.  Just 
think about what it could do with and on your Legacy.
https://www.amazon.com/Woodhaven-Horizontal-Router-Table-Angle/dp/B004BUGVOO/ref=sr_1_40?keywords=horizontal+router=1645598665=8-40
 




C.A.G.
On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 01:31:51 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:  
 
     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hswsexx3NOw The 4D clone copier is the 
base design for my Z axis on my machine.  BUT I went with R and not the 
spring and counter weights.  The machine (4D) is sold as a kit and you need to 
assemble it or make all the part for yourself. 

ONE Note. I took a photo of the 4D off the computer, and then blew it up and 
printed it onto paper, then I glued the paper into the alum. then cutting just 
out side the lines with my bandsaw, then sanded everything to size, rough 
fitting the parts and then re-working it all to fit with my set-up. 
Now Both Bill's mod. and Tim Z. mod. might work better for you. depending on 
how far you want to go in re-working your Legacy.Tim's Mod. is something that 
you can make/buy and just add to your machine and remove when not in use. That 
is a very good and easy solution that doesn't need a lot of  work to make it 
useable for you.
NOW if you are worried about cost. Tim's method may be more money, Since you 
are buying someone machine and modifying it to fit your use. 
https://www.amazon.com/Woodhaven-6000-Horizontal-Router-Table/dp/B004BUGVLC/ref=sr_1_4?crid=37JGVZXSVV36I=horizontal+router=1645597738=horizontal+router+%2Caps%2C96=8-4
 
I don't know what Bill spent on his first Z axis.
But I bought a 1/2" Alum. plate for $60.00, used my Shop Smith to cut and drill 
and sand the alum.
the Linear rails were under $100.00, the motor mounting was a gift. (no idea of 
the cost? but I would  think $30.00) So my set-up cost me appx. $200.00 to make.
Have a good night.
C.A.G.
On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 01:05:09 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:  
 
  Denson. this is one video that got me thinking about making my Legacy 20/20, 
differently from what was done before. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IIh-udBkvY  

C.A.G.
On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 12:55:49 AM EST, Curt George 
 wrote:  
 
  Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into more 
very soon. ;-)
Thanks Bill
C.A.G.
On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with 
horizontal milling

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

  

I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared to 
the Horizontal positioning.

I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly make 
with it compared to the Lathe. 

Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting tonight so 
may not get any play time

Then try the rotary table. 


Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

  

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:


Wow. That is a very real possibility.

  

I have different bits that could do something like this.  

  

The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy user 
could do it. 

Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)

  

C.A.G.

  

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST,  wrote: 

  

  

Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like this 
next that was done with different profile router bits

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Thank you Bill

 

Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
future? ;-)

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST,  wrote: 

 

 

Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I really 
started something when I made my first one all those years ago 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: My first Legacy box.

 

Hello Everyone.

 

Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)

 

This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
but its a good starting point, for me .

This was a lathe & Legacy job.

First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to the 
Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a f

RE: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread bulkeley 
Who says you cant reinvent the wheel whoever it was didn’t know about our group 
lolol

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2022 5:05 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Denson. this is one video that got me thinking about making my Legacy 20/20, 
differently from what was done before. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IIh-udBkvY  

 

C.A.G.

 

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 12:55:49 AM EST, Curt George 
mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into more 
very soon. ;-)

 

Thanks Bill

 

C.A.G.

 

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with 
horizontal milling

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
To: LOM Group mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared to 
the Horizontal positioning.

I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly make 
with it compared to the Lathe. 

Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting tonight so 
may not get any play time

Then try the rotary table. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Wow. That is a very real possibility.

 

I have different bits that could do something like this.  

 

The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy user 
could do it. 

Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like this 
next that was done with different profile router bits

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Thank you Bill

 

Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
future? ;-)

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I really 
started something when I made my first one all those years ago 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
To: Legacy ornamental mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: My first Legacy box.

 

Hello Everyone.

 

Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)

 

This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
but its a good starting point, for me .

This was a lathe & Legacy job.

First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to the 
Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some sanding.

The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group, just 
after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque isle . 
the bag was Kingsford Mustique.

 

I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the next 
time I will do better?

Please let me know what you think?

 

C.A.G.

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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hswsexx3NOw The 4D clone copier is the base 
design for my Z axis on my machine.  BUT I went with R and not the spring and 
counter weights.  The machine (4D) is sold as a kit and you need to assemble it 
or make all the part for yourself. 

ONE Note. I took a photo of the 4D off the computer, and then blew it up and 
printed it onto paper, then I glued the paper into the alum. then cutting just 
out side the lines with my bandsaw, then sanded everything to size, rough 
fitting the parts and then re-working it all to fit with my set-up. 
Now Both Bill's mod. and Tim Z. mod. might work better for you. depending on 
how far you want to go in re-working your Legacy.Tim's Mod. is something that 
you can make/buy and just add to your machine and remove when not in use. That 
is a very good and easy solution that doesn't need a lot of  work to make it 
useable for you.
NOW if you are worried about cost. Tim's method may be more money, Since you 
are buying someone machine and modifying it to fit your use. 
https://www.amazon.com/Woodhaven-6000-Horizontal-Router-Table/dp/B004BUGVLC/ref=sr_1_4?crid=37JGVZXSVV36I=horizontal+router=1645597738=horizontal+router+%2Caps%2C96=8-4
 
I don't know what Bill spent on his first Z axis.
But I bought a 1/2" Alum. plate for $60.00, used my Shop Smith to cut and drill 
and sand the alum.
the Linear rails were under $100.00, the motor mounting was a gift. (no idea of 
the cost? but I would  think $30.00) So my set-up cost me appx. $200.00 to make.
Have a good night.
C.A.G.
On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 01:05:09 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:  
 
  Denson. this is one video that got me thinking about making my Legacy 20/20, 
differently from what was done before. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IIh-udBkvY  

C.A.G.
On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 12:55:49 AM EST, Curt George 
 wrote:  
 
  Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into more 
very soon. ;-)
Thanks Bill
C.A.G.
On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with 
horizontal milling

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

  

I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared to 
the Horizontal positioning.

I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly make 
with it compared to the Lathe. 

Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting tonight so 
may not get any play time

Then try the rotary table. 


Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

  

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:


Wow. That is a very real possibility.

  

I have different bits that could do something like this.  

  

The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy user 
could do it. 

Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)

  

C.A.G.

  

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST,  wrote: 

  

  

Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like this 
next that was done with different profile router bits

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Thank you Bill

 

Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
future? ;-)

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST,  wrote: 

 

 

Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I really 
started something when I made my first one all those years ago 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: My first Legacy box.

 

Hello Everyone.

 

Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)

 

This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
but its a good starting point, for me .

This was a lathe & Legacy job.

First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to the 
Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some sanding.

The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group, just 
after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque isle . 
the bag was Kingsford Mustique.

 

I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the next 
time I will do better?

Please let me know what you think?

 

C.A.G.

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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Denson. this is one video that got me thinking about making my Legacy 20/20, 
differently from what was done before. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IIh-udBkvY  

C.A.G.
On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 12:55:49 AM EST, Curt George 
 wrote:  
 
  Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into more 
very soon. ;-)
Thanks Bill
C.A.G.
On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with 
horizontal milling

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

  

I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared to 
the Horizontal positioning.

I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly make 
with it compared to the Lathe. 

Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting tonight so 
may not get any play time

Then try the rotary table. 


Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

  

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:


Wow. That is a very real possibility.

  

I have different bits that could do something like this.  

  

The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy user 
could do it. 

Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)

  

C.A.G.

  

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST,  wrote: 

  

  

Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like this 
next that was done with different profile router bits

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Thank you Bill

 

Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
future? ;-)

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST,  wrote: 

 

 

Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I really 
started something when I made my first one all those years ago 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: My first Legacy box.

 

Hello Everyone.

 

Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)

 

This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
but its a good starting point, for me .

This was a lathe & Legacy job.

First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to the 
Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some sanding.

The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group, just 
after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque isle . 
the bag was Kingsford Mustique.

 

I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the next 
time I will do better?

Please let me know what you think?

 

C.A.G.

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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Using template are a great idea. something that I will be looking into more 
very soon. ;-)
Thanks Bill
C.A.G.
On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 07:50:09 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with 
horizontal milling

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

  

I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared to 
the Horizontal positioning.

I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly make 
with it compared to the Lathe. 

Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting tonight so 
may not get any play time

Then try the rotary table. 


Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

  

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:


Wow. That is a very real possibility.

  

I have different bits that could do something like this.  

  

The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy user 
could do it. 

Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)

  

C.A.G.

  

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST,  wrote: 

  

  

Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like this 
next that was done with different profile router bits

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Thank you Bill

 

Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
future? ;-)

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST,  wrote: 

 

 

Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I really 
started something when I made my first one all those years ago 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: My first Legacy box.

 

Hello Everyone.

 

Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)

 

This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
but its a good starting point, for me .

This was a lathe & Legacy job.

First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to the 
Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some sanding.

The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group, just 
after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque isle . 
the bag was Kingsford Mustique.

 

I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the next 
time I will do better?

Please let me know what you think?

 

C.A.G.

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RE: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread bulkeley 
Believe me there are many times when I have to stop and say to my self how the 
hell am I going to do that lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2022 1:35 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Now Bill are you saying you're a fly by the seat of your pants sorta guy lol?

Somehow I don't see that in you with all your innovations and cool projects. 

I think you're as meticulous as the best of them. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 7:12 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Hell with me I start with a rough idea of what I’m going to make and before I 
finish the first and each step most of the time I have no idea at all of how 
I’m going to do the next step I’m just a wing  it as I go man most of the time 
lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2022 2:02 AM
To: LOM Group mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Exactly Curt. I do some of my best thinking right before I'm going to do a 
build of sorts. 

If I had an idea I write it down or I have it mulling in my head all night. But 
yes I agree to keep the creative 

thinking going. Writing things done and lots of good idea's will be born. 

When I was building my REVO HYBRID, I had to rethink a lot of the moves I 
needed to make building it. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 8:07 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hey Rick.

 

Your brain and body will work very well together, If you let them.

Since you cant get into the shop now, Think about all the steps you will need 
to take, (A sort of Day Dreaming, so to speak.) See your self, going through 
all the steps, Not just the finishing steps, but the hole process.   In this 
way you still can work out in your shop with out having to do anything your 
body is not ready for.

They have done lots of studies on sports. This method of controlled Day 
Dreaming can and will help you, even when you can not do it for real. If you 
think about it your brain controls your body.  You don't really have to be out 
in the shop to make things. Just think about it.   

 

I too hope you have a quick recovery.  But don't let your body get in the way 
of you making stuff. ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 08:23:37 AM EST, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Well I wish you a speedy recovery so you can get out and enjoy that LOM time 
soon. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 6:45 AM Rick Hutley mailto:rghut...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I know what you mean Tim. One of the challenges () with this group is the 
number of amazing ideas for tools and projects that everyone keeps coming up 
with. Once I recover from my recent surgery and am able to get back in my 
workshop, I’m going to have a bewildering number of ‘opportunities’ to chose 
from!

 

Rick

 

On Feb 22, 2022, at 06:46, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Now you guys are making me want to put my horizontal router mount back on. 

I opened up one piece with mine and took it off for other projects but. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:02 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like this 
next that was done with different profile router bits

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Thank you Bill

 

Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
future? ;-)

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I really 
started something when I made my first one all those years ago 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt Georg

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
To I interested in info on the horizontal router.
Denson 

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Feb 22, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Now Bill are you saying you're a fly by the seat of your pants sorta guy lol?
> Somehow I don't see that in you with all your innovations and cool projects. 
> I think you're as meticulous as the best of them. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 7:12 PM  wrote:
>> Hell with me I start with a rough idea of what I’m going to make and before 
>> I finish the first and each step most of the time I have no idea at all of 
>> how I’m going to do the next step I’m just a wing  it as I go man most of 
>> the time lol
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2022 2:02 AM
>> To: LOM Group 
>> Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Exactly Curt. I do some of my best thinking right before I'm going to do a 
>> build of sorts. 
>> 
>> If I had an idea I write it down or I have it mulling in my head all night. 
>> But yes I agree to keep the creative 
>> 
>> thinking going. Writing things done and lots of good idea's will be born. 
>> 
>> When I was building my REVO HYBRID, I had to rethink a lot of the moves I 
>> needed to make building it. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 8:07 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Rick.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Your brain and body will work very well together, If you let them.
>> 
>> Since you cant get into the shop now, Think about all the steps you will 
>> need to take, (A sort of Day Dreaming, so to speak.) See your self, going 
>> through all the steps, Not just the finishing steps, but the hole process.   
>> In this way you still can work out in your shop with out having to do 
>> anything your body is not ready for.
>> 
>> They have done lots of studies on sports. This method of controlled Day 
>> Dreaming can and will help you, even when you can not do it for real. If you 
>> think about it your brain controls your body.  You don't really have to be 
>> out in the shop to make things. Just think about it.   
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I too hope you have a quick recovery.  But don't let your body get in the 
>> way of you making stuff. ;-)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 08:23:37 AM EST, Tim Ziegler 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Well I wish you a speedy recovery so you can get out and enjoy that LOM time 
>> soon. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 6:45 AM Rick Hutley  wrote:
>> 
>> I know what you mean Tim. One of the challenges () with this group is the 
>> number of amazing ideas for tools and projects that everyone keeps coming up 
>> with. Once I recover from my recent surgery and am able to get back in my 
>> workshop, I’m going to have a bewildering number of ‘opportunities’ to chose 
>> from!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 22, 2022, at 06:46, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Now you guys are making me want to put my horizontal router mount back on. 
>> 
>> I opened up one piece with mine and took it off for other projects but. 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
&g

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Now Bill are you saying you're a fly by the seat of your pants sorta guy
lol?
Somehow I don't see that in you with all your innovations and cool
projects.
I think you're as meticulous as the best of them.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 7:12 PM  wrote:

> Hell with me I start with a rough idea of what I’m going to make and
> before I finish the first and each step most of the time I have no idea at
> all of how I’m going to do the next step I’m just a wing  it as I go man
> most of the time lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 February 2022 2:02 AM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Exactly Curt. I do some of my best thinking right before I'm going to do a
> build of sorts.
>
> If I had an idea I write it down or I have it mulling in my head all
> night. But yes I agree to keep the creative
>
> thinking going. Writing things done and lots of good idea's will be born.
>
> When I was building my REVO HYBRID, I had to rethink a lot of the moves I
> needed to make building it.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 8:07 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Rick.
>
>
>
> Your brain and body will work very well together, If you let them.
>
> Since you cant get into the shop now, Think about all the steps you will
> need to take, (A sort of Day Dreaming, so to speak.) See your self, going
> through all the steps, Not just the finishing steps, but the hole process.
>  In this way you still can work out in your shop with out having to do
> anything your body is not ready for.
>
> They have done lots of studies on sports. This method of controlled Day
> Dreaming can and will help you, even when you can not do it for real. If
> you think about it your brain controls your body.  You don't really have to
> be out in the shop to make things. Just think about it.
>
>
>
> I too hope you have a quick recovery.  But don't let your body get in the
> way of you making stuff. ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 08:23:37 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Well I wish you a speedy recovery so you can get out and enjoy that LOM
> time soon.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 6:45 AM Rick Hutley  wrote:
>
> I know what you mean Tim. One of the challenges () with this group is
> the number of amazing ideas for tools and projects that everyone keeps
> coming up with. Once I recover from my recent surgery and am able to get
> back in my workshop, I’m going to have a bewildering number of
> ‘opportunities’ to chose from!
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> On Feb 22, 2022, at 06:46, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Now you guys are making me want to put my horizontal router mount back on.
>
> I opened up one piece with mine and took it off for other projects
> but.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:02 PM  wrote:
>
> Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like
> this next that was done with different profile router bits
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Thank you Bill
>
>
>
> Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked
> very well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the
> near future? ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Great job curt great to see your z

Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread Tim Ziegler 
For sure Bill. Yes lots of good can come from the Horizontal Router in the
LOM's
Any of you guys looking to make your own attachments for doing this process
don't hesitate to ask.
We all have idea's and pix we would share.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 6:50 PM  wrote:

> Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with
> horizontal milling
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared
> to the Horizontal positioning.
>
> I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly
> make with it compared to the Lathe.
>
> Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting
> tonight so may not get any play time
>
> Then try the rotary table.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Wow. That is a very real possibility.
>
>
>
> I have different bits that could do something like this.
>
>
>
> The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy
> user could do it.
>
> Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like
> this next that was done with different profile router bits
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Thank you Bill
>
>
>
> Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked
> very well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the
> near future? ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I
> really started something when I made my first one all those years ago
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
>
>
> Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)
>
>
>
> This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in
> it, but its a good starting point, for me .
>
> This was a lathe & Legacy job.
>
> First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to
> the Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some
> sanding.
>
> The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group,
> just after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque
> isle . the bag was Kingsford Mustique.
>
>
>
> I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the
> next time I will do better?
>
> Please let me know what you think?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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RE: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread bulkeley 
Hell with me I start with a rough idea of what I’m going to make and before I 
finish the first and each step most of the time I have no idea at all of how 
I’m going to do the next step I’m just a wing  it as I go man most of the time 
lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2022 2:02 AM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Exactly Curt. I do some of my best thinking right before I'm going to do a 
build of sorts. 

If I had an idea I write it down or I have it mulling in my head all night. But 
yes I agree to keep the creative 

thinking going. Writing things done and lots of good idea's will be born. 

When I was building my REVO HYBRID, I had to rethink a lot of the moves I 
needed to make building it. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 8:07 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hey Rick.

 

Your brain and body will work very well together, If you let them.

Since you cant get into the shop now, Think about all the steps you will need 
to take, (A sort of Day Dreaming, so to speak.) See your self, going through 
all the steps, Not just the finishing steps, but the hole process.   In this 
way you still can work out in your shop with out having to do anything your 
body is not ready for.

They have done lots of studies on sports. This method of controlled Day 
Dreaming can and will help you, even when you can not do it for real. If you 
think about it your brain controls your body.  You don't really have to be out 
in the shop to make things. Just think about it.   

 

I too hope you have a quick recovery.  But don't let your body get in the way 
of you making stuff. ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 08:23:37 AM EST, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Well I wish you a speedy recovery so you can get out and enjoy that LOM time 
soon. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 6:45 AM Rick Hutley mailto:rghut...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I know what you mean Tim. One of the challenges () with this group is the 
number of amazing ideas for tools and projects that everyone keeps coming up 
with. Once I recover from my recent surgery and am able to get back in my 
workshop, I’m going to have a bewildering number of ‘opportunities’ to chose 
from!

 

Rick





On Feb 22, 2022, at 06:46, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Now you guys are making me want to put my horizontal router mount back on. 

I opened up one piece with mine and took it off for other projects but. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:02 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like this 
next that was done with different profile router bits

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Thank you Bill

 

Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
future? ;-)

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I really 
started something when I made my first one all those years ago 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
To: Legacy ornamental mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: My first Legacy box.

 

Hello Everyone.

 

Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)

 

This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
but its a good starting point, for me .

This was a lathe & Legacy job.

First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to the 
Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some sanding.

The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group, just 
after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque isle . 
the bag was Kingsford Mustique.

 

I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) H

RE: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread bulkeley 
Also Tim don’t rule out template milling for the inside of vessels with 
horizontal milling

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:54 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared to 
the Horizontal positioning.

I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly make 
with it compared to the Lathe. 

Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting tonight so 
may not get any play time

Then try the rotary table. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Wow. That is a very real possibility.

 

I have different bits that could do something like this.  

 

The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy user 
could do it. 

Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like this 
next that was done with different profile router bits

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Thank you Bill

 

Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
future? ;-)

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I really 
started something when I made my first one all those years ago 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
To: Legacy ornamental mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: My first Legacy box.

 

Hello Everyone.

 

Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)

 

This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
but its a good starting point, for me .

This was a lathe & Legacy job.

First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to the 
Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some sanding.

The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group, just 
after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque isle . 
the bag was Kingsford Mustique.

 

I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the next 
time I will do better?

Please let me know what you think?

 

C.A.G.

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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Exactly Curt. I do some of my best thinking right before I'm going to do a
build of sorts.
If I had an idea I write it down or I have it mulling in my head all night.
But yes I agree to keep the creative
thinking going. Writing things done and lots of good idea's will be born.
When I was building my REVO HYBRID, I had to rethink a lot of the moves I
needed to make building it.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 8:07 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hey Rick.
>
> Your brain and body will work very well together, If you let them.
> Since you cant get into the shop now, Think about all the steps you will
> need to take, (A sort of Day Dreaming, so to speak.) See your self, going
> through all the steps, Not just the finishing steps, but the hole process.
>  In this way you still can work out in your shop with out having to do
> anything your body is not ready for.
> They have done lots of studies on sports. This method of controlled Day
> Dreaming can and will help you, even when you can not do it for real. If
> you think about it your brain controls your body.  You don't really have to
> be out in the shop to make things. Just think about it.
>
> I too hope you have a quick recovery.  But don't let your body get in the
> way of you making stuff. ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 08:23:37 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Well I wish you a speedy recovery so you can get out and enjoy that LOM
> time soon.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 6:45 AM Rick Hutley  wrote:
>
> I know what you mean Tim. One of the challenges () with this group is
> the number of amazing ideas for tools and projects that everyone keeps
> coming up with. Once I recover from my recent surgery and am able to get
> back in my workshop, I’m going to have a bewildering number of
> ‘opportunities’ to chose from!
>
> Rick
>
> On Feb 22, 2022, at 06:46, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Now you guys are making me want to put my horizontal router mount back on.
> I opened up one piece with mine and took it off for other projects
> but.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:02 PM  wrote:
>
> Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like
> this next that was done with different profile router bits
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Thank you Bill
>
>
>
> Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked
> very well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the
> near future? ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I
> really started something when I made my first one all those years ago
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
>
>
> Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)
>
>
>
> This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in
> it, but its a good starting point, for me .
>
> This was a lathe & Legacy job.
>
> First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to
> the Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some
> sanding.
>
> The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group,
> just after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque
> isle . the bag was Kingsford Mustique.
>
>
>
> I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the
> next time I will do better?
>
> Please let me know what you think?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread Rick Hutley 
Good advice - thanks Curt!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 22, 2022, at 09:07, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey Rick.
> 
> Your brain and body will work very well together, If you let them.
> Since you cant get into the shop now, Think about all the steps you will need 
> to take, (A sort of Day Dreaming, so to speak.) See your self, going through 
> all the steps, Not just the finishing steps, but the hole process.   In this 
> way you still can work out in your shop with out having to do anything your 
> body is not ready for.
> They have done lots of studies on sports. This method of controlled Day 
> Dreaming can and will help you, even when you can not do it for real. If you 
> think about it your brain controls your body.  You don't really have to be 
> out in the shop to make things. Just think about it.   
> 
> I too hope you have a quick recovery.  But don't let your body get in the way 
> of you making stuff. ;-)
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 08:23:37 AM EST, Tim Ziegler 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well I wish you a speedy recovery so you can get out and enjoy that LOM time 
> soon. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 6:45 AM Rick Hutley  wrote:
>> I know what you mean Tim. One of the challenges () with this group is the 
>> number of amazing ideas for tools and projects that everyone keeps coming up 
>> with. Once I recover from my recent surgery and am able to get back in my 
>> workshop, I’m going to have a bewildering number of ‘opportunities’ to chose 
>> from!
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>>> On Feb 22, 2022, at 06:46, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Now you guys are making me want to put my horizontal router mount back on. 
>> I opened up one piece with mine and took it off for other projects but. 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:02 PM  wrote:
>> Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like 
>> this next that was done with different profile router bits
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  
>> Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thank you Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
>> well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
>> future? ;-)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> 
>> On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST,  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I really 
>> started something when I made my first one all those years ago
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  
>> Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
>> To: Legacy ornamental mills 
>> Subject: My first Legacy box.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hello Everyone.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
>> but its a good starting point, for me .
>> 
>> This was a lathe & Legacy job.
>> 
>> First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to the 
>> Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some 
>> sanding.
>> 
>> The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group, just 
>> after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque isle 
>> . the bag was Kingsford Mustique.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the 
>> next time I will do better?
>> 
>> Please let me know what you think?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> 
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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Hey Rick.
Your brain and body will work very well together, If you let them.Since you 
cant get into the shop now, Think about all the steps you will need to take, (A 
sort of Day Dreaming, so to speak.) See your self, going through all the steps, 
Not just the finishing steps, but the hole process.   In this way you still can 
work out in your shop with out having to do anything your body is not ready 
for.They have done lots of studies on sports. This method of controlled Day 
Dreaming can and will help you, even when you can not do it for real. If you 
think about it your brain controls your body.  You don't really have to be out 
in the shop to make things. Just think about it.   
I too hope you have a quick recovery.  But don't let your body get in the way 
of you making stuff. ;-)
C.A.G.
On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 08:23:37 AM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Well I wish you a speedy recovery so you can get out and enjoy that LOM time 
soon. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 6:45 AM Rick Hutley  wrote:

I know what you mean Tim. One of the challenges () with this group is the 
number of amazing ideas for tools and projects that everyone keeps coming up 
with. Once I recover from my recent surgery and am able to get back in my 
workshop, I’m going to have a bewildering number of ‘opportunities’ to chose 
from!
Rick

On Feb 22, 2022, at 06:46, Tim Ziegler  wrote:



Now you guys are making me want to put my horizontal router mount back on. I 
opened up one piece with mine and took it off for other projects but. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:02 PM  wrote:


Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like this 
next that was done with different profile router bits

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Thank you Bill

 

Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
future? ;-)

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST,  wrote: 

 

 

Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I really 
started something when I made my first one all those years ago 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: My first Legacy box.

 

Hello Everyone.

 

Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)

 

This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
but its a good starting point, for me .

This was a lathe & Legacy job.

First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to the 
Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some sanding.

The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group, just 
after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque isle . 
the bag was Kingsford Mustique.

 

I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the next 
time I will do better?

Please let me know what you think?

 

C.A.G.

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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Well I wish you a speedy recovery so you can get out and enjoy that LOM
time soon.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 6:45 AM Rick Hutley  wrote:

> I know what you mean Tim. One of the challenges () with this group is
> the number of amazing ideas for tools and projects that everyone keeps
> coming up with. Once I recover from my recent surgery and am able to get
> back in my workshop, I’m going to have a bewildering number of
> ‘opportunities’ to chose from!
>
> Rick
>
> On Feb 22, 2022, at 06:46, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Now you guys are making me want to put my horizontal router mount back on.
> I opened up one piece with mine and took it off for other projects
> but.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:02 PM  wrote:
>
>> Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like
>> this next that was done with different profile router bits
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked
>> very well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the
>> near future? ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I
>> really started something when I made my first one all those years ago
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
>> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
>> *Subject:* My first Legacy box.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Everyone.
>>
>>
>>
>> Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)
>>
>>
>>
>> This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in
>> it, but its a good starting point, for me .
>>
>> This was a lathe & Legacy job.
>>
>> First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to
>> the Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some
>> sanding.
>>
>> The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group,
>> just after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque
>> isle . the bag was Kingsford Mustique.
>>
>>
>>
>> I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the
>> next time I will do better?
>>
>> Please let me know what you think?
>>
>>
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread Rick Hutley 
I know what you mean Tim. One of the challenges () with this group is the 
number of amazing ideas for tools and projects that everyone keeps coming up 
with. Once I recover from my recent surgery and am able to get back in my 
workshop, I’m going to have a bewildering number of ‘opportunities’ to chose 
from!

Rick

> On Feb 22, 2022, at 06:46, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Now you guys are making me want to put my horizontal router mount back on. 
> I opened up one piece with mine and took it off for other projects but. 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:02 PM  wrote:
>> Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like 
>> this next that was done with different profile router bits
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  
>> Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thank you Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
>> well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
>> future? ;-)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> 
>> On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST,  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I really 
>> started something when I made my first one all those years ago
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  
>> Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
>> To: Legacy ornamental mills 
>> Subject: My first Legacy box.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hello Everyone.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
>> but its a good starting point, for me .
>> 
>> This was a lathe & Legacy job.
>> 
>> First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to the 
>> Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some 
>> sanding.
>> 
>> The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group, just 
>> after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque isle 
>> . the bag was Kingsford Mustique.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the 
>> next time I will do better?
>> 
>> Please let me know what you think?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> 
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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread Tim Ziegler 
I think the rotary table would be great for this but keep this one geared
to the Horizontal positioning.
I would like to see how smooth of cuts and transitions you can possibly
make with it compared to the Lathe.
Great example to try Bill.  Curt go for it. I think I have a meeting
tonight so may not get any play time
Then try the rotary table.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Wow. That is a very real possibility.
>
> I have different bits that could do something like this.
>
> The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy
> user could do it.
> Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like
> this next that was done with different profile router bits
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Thank you Bill
>
>
>
> Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked
> very well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the
> near future? ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I
> really started something when I made my first one all those years ago
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
>
>
> Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)
>
>
>
> This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in
> it, but its a good starting point, for me .
>
> This was a lathe & Legacy job.
>
> First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to
> the Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some
> sanding.
>
> The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group,
> just after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque
> isle . the bag was Kingsford Mustique.
>
>
>
> I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the
> next time I will do better?
>
> Please let me know what you think?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread Tim Ziegler 
For sure Mesquite is far better for smoking even then hickory.
But that's a whole different subject lol.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:03 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Thanks.
>
> And - remember to save all your scraps from it and use them to "smoke"
> whatever you cook in your barbeque/grill next.
>
> No sense letting it go to waste!  Better it "go to waist" - as I stated
> several months ago in a similar posting.
>
> Mac
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> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> That's the stuff. I got some pretty good wood out of it !
> I think I might try again. ;-)
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 21, 2022, 11:33:57 PM EST, M.W.Foscue <
> mwfos...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello Curtis,
>
>
>
> Very nice - especially for your "first" one.
>
> Thanks for sharing.
>
>
>
> I attached a screen grab from the Home Depot website of what it is I think
> you were telling us you bought there and used to make several items you
> have shared with us; including the one in todya's posting.
>
>
>
> Was this the wood? (mesquite - pronounced "mess-keet")  If that's it, guys
> ya better get to your local HD before all the LOM "turners" buy it all up!
>
> I know it grows out west.  But haven't seen it growing here along the
> mid-Atlantic and in the South.
>
>
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Mac
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> Subject: My first Legacy box.
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)
>
> This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in
> it, but its a good starting point, for me .
> This was a lathe & Legacy job.
> First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to
> the Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some
> sanding.
> The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group,
> just after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque
> isle . the bag was Kingsford Mustique.
>
> I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the
> next time I will do better?
> Please let me know what you think?
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-22 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Now you guys are making me want to put my horizontal router mount back on.
I opened up one piece with mine and took it off for other projects but.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:02 PM  wrote:

> Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like
> this next that was done with different profile router bits
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Thank you Bill
>
>
>
> Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked
> very well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the
> near future? ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I
> really started something when I made my first one all those years ago
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* My first Legacy box.
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
>
>
> Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)
>
>
>
> This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in
> it, but its a good starting point, for me .
>
> This was a lathe & Legacy job.
>
> First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to
> the Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some
> sanding.
>
> The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group,
> just after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque
> isle . the bag was Kingsford Mustique.
>
>
>
> I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the
> next time I will do better?
>
> Please let me know what you think?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-21 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Wow. That is a very real possibility.
I have different bits that could do something like this.  
The turn/rotary table would handle this type of job easily. and Any Legacy user 
could do it. Who is up for a try? (besides me?)  ;-)
C.A.G.
On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 12:08:00 AM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like this 
next that was done with different profile router bits

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

  

Thank you Bill

  

Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
future? ;-)

  

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST,  wrote: 

  

  

Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I really 
started something when I made my first one all those years ago 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: My first Legacy box.

 

Hello Everyone.

 

Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)

 

This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
but its a good starting point, for me .

This was a lathe & Legacy job.

First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to the 
Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some sanding.

The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group, just 
after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque isle . 
the bag was Kingsford Mustique.

 

I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the next 
time I will do better?

Please let me know what you think?

 

C.A.G.

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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-21 Thread M.W.Foscue 
Thanks.
And - remember to save all your scraps from it and use them to "smoke" whatever 
you cook in your barbeque/grill next.
No sense letting it go to waste!  Better it "go to waist" - as I stated several 
months ago in a similar posting.
Mac
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From: 
Sent: Feb 21, 2022 11:36 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.
 
 
That's the stuff. I got some pretty good wood out of it !
I think I might try again. ;-)
 
 
C.A.G.
 

On Monday, February 21, 2022, 11:33:57 PM EST, M.W.Foscue  wrote:
 
 
Hello Curtis,
 
Very nice - especially for your "first" one. 
Thanks for sharing.
 
I attached a screen grab from the Home Depot website of what it is I think you 
were telling us you bought there and used to make several items you have shared 
with us; including the one in todya's posting.
 
Was this the wood? (mesquite - pronounced "mess-keet")  If that's it, guys ya 
better get to your local HD before all the LOM "turners" buy it all up!
I know it grows out west.  But haven't seen it growing here along the 
mid-Atlantic and in the South.
 
Thanks again.
Mac
-Original Message-From: Sent: Feb 21, 2022 8:45 PMTo: Legacy ornamental 
mills Subject: My first Legacy box.


 
Hello Everyone.
 
Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)
 
This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
but its a good starting point, for me .
This was a lathe & Legacy job.
First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to the 
Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some sanding.
The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group, just 
after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque isle . 
the bag was Kingsford Mustique.
 
I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the next 
time I will do better?
Please let me know what you think?
 
C.A.G.

 
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RE: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-21 Thread bulkeley 
Can’t wait to see what you do next in horizontal mode try something like this 
next that was done with different profile router bits

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 2:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My first Legacy box.

 

Thank you Bill

 

Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
future? ;-)

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I really 
started something when I made my first one all those years ago 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
To: Legacy ornamental mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: My first Legacy box.

 

Hello Everyone.

 

Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)

 

This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
but its a good starting point, for me .

This was a lathe & Legacy job.

First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to the 
Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some sanding.

The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group, just 
after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque isle . 
the bag was Kingsford Mustique.

 

I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the next 
time I will do better?

Please let me know what you think?

 

C.A.G.

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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-21 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 That's the stuff. I got some pretty good wood out of it !I think I might try 
again. ;-)

C.A.G.
On Monday, February 21, 2022, 11:33:57 PM EST, M.W.Foscue 
 wrote:  
 
 
Hello Curtis,

 

Very nice - especially for your "first" one. 

Thanks for sharing.

 

I attached a screen grab from the Home Depot website of what it is I think you 
were telling us you bought there and used to make several items you have shared 
with us; including the one in todya's posting.

 

Was this the wood? (mesquite - pronounced "mess-keet")  If that's it, guys ya 
better get to your local HD before all the LOM "turners" buy it all up!

I know it grows out west.  But haven't seen it growing here along the 
mid-Atlantic and in the South.

 

Thanks again.

Mac

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From: 
Sent: Feb 21, 2022 8:45 PM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: My first Legacy box.

 
Hello Everyone. Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.) 
This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
but its a good starting point, for me .This was a lathe & Legacy job.First I 
turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to the Legacy. and 
then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some sanding.The wood is 
The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group, just after 
Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque isle . the bag 
was Kingsford Mustique. I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I 
made.) Hopefully the next time I will do better?Please let me know what you 
think? C.A.G.
 
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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-21 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Thank you Roger.
I now need to go out and find some more of that wood!  Home Depot's selection 
is made for the fire place. I think I want something better?  Pretty wood! I 
wish it grew somewhere around here!  I'm going to have to start working with my 
fire wood pile again. "Free Wood" is "Good wood"!  ;-)
Have a good night.

C.A.G.
On Monday, February 21, 2022, 10:19:37 PM EST, Ccm Ccm 
 wrote:  
 
 Very  nice 

On Monday, February 21, 2022, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Hello Everyone.
Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)
This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
but its a good starting point, for me .This was a lathe & Legacy job.First I 
turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to the Legacy. and 
then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some sanding.The wood is 
The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group, just after 
Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque isle . the bag 
was Kingsford Mustique.
I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the next 
time I will do better?Please let me know what you think?
C.A.G.

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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-21 Thread Ccm Ccm 
Very  nice

On Monday, February 21, 2022, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
>
> Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)
>
> This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in
> it, but its a good starting point, for me .
> This was a lathe & Legacy job.
> First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to
> the Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some
> sanding.
> The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group,
> just after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque
> isle . the bag was Kingsford Mustique.
>
> I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the
> next time I will do better?
> Please let me know what you think?
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-21 Thread Tim Ziegler 
VERY COOL
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 7:45 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
>
> Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)
>
> This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in
> it, but its a good starting point, for me .
> This was a lathe & Legacy job.
> First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to
> the Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some
> sanding.
> The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group,
> just after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque
> isle . the bag was Kingsford Mustique.
>
> I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the
> next time I will do better?
> Please let me know what you think?
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-21 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Thank you Bill
Yes your horizontal milling got me wanting to do it as well. It worked very 
well for me today, hopefully there will be more up and coming in the near 
future? ;-)
C.A.G.On Monday, February 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PM EST, 
 wrote:  
 
 
Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I really 
started something when I made my first one all those years ago 

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: My first Legacy box.

  

Hello Everyone.

  

Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)

  

This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
but its a good starting point, for me .

This was a lathe & Legacy job.

First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to the 
Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some sanding.

The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group, just 
after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque isle . 
the bag was Kingsford Mustique.

  

I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the next 
time I will do better?

Please let me know what you think?

  

C.A.G.

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RE: My first Legacy box.

2022-02-21 Thread bulkeley 
Great job curt great to see your z axis working in horizontal mode I really 
started something when I made my first one all those years ago 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:46 PM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: My first Legacy box.

 

Hello Everyone.

 

Today is Presidents Day.  ( I have the holiday off form work.)

 

This was/is my first box that I have ever made. There are a few flaws in it, 
but its a good starting point, for me .

This was a lathe & Legacy job.

First I turned the wood into shape on my lathe, and then switched it to the 
Legacy. and then went back to the lathe for a final clean up and some sanding.

The wood is The Mustique wood that I bought , And posted to the group, just 
after Christmas, I bought is form the Home Depot, sold in the barbeque isle . 
the bag was Kingsford Mustique.

 

I said that there were a few flaws, (mistakes that I made.) Hopefully the next 
time I will do better?

Please let me know what you think?

 

C.A.G.

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Re: Box making

2020-06-26 Thread Richard Ellis 
The Triton stuff is well thought out and well made  It was the 2000 that I 
had ,And another Triton tool  I have is the sander that fits onto an 4 inch 
angle grinder.
Ideal for sanding flat surfaces *but only that.* I have had other Triton 
things but they are long gone. I tend to buy things to suit the job in hand.
I am only an amateur at this wood working game , since I retired. Still 
learning !! 

On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 3:50:54 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> That is really a nice looking portable solution! 
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *
> bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2020 1:52 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* RE: Box making
>
>  
>
> Here is an old video of the triton work center 2000 I still have one great 
> tool in its day
>
> Still is I think. And a few of their other tools
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXi2gMaK0lQ
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww8PUGwgoNg
>
>  
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGq5uPnEnMg
>
>  
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6jFyd71t3w
>
>  
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r73W_tzzbqE
>
>  
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoXpQpgk-Ps
>
>  
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > 
> *Sent:* Thursday, 25 June 2020 2:03 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: Box making
>
>  
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> Triton is a brand that I know very little about. I know about there 
> router. (bill has be raving over them for years now.) but I know next to 
> nothing about this product line.
>
>  
>
> C.A.G.
>
>  
>
> On Wednesday, June 24, 2020, 06:53:36 PM EDT,  > wrote: 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> I like triton too I still have a workcenter 2000, 2 super jaws and 5 
> triton routers I love triton routers I especially like the quick change 
> option they have to allow you to move the router from one machine to 
> another in seconds
>
>  
>
> Bill 
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *Richard 
> Ellis
> *Sent:* Thursday, 25 June 2020 1:01 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills  >
> *Subject:* Re: Box making
>
>  
>
>  I did not get into this small wood working game until I bought some land 
> and decided to build a house on it. If you class a Triton saw bench with a 
> Triton saw underneath, then I did have a sort of table saw. 
>
> I was into much larger saws , bought three saw mills from Stenners of 
> Tiverton when I had my sawmill. And a double ended cross cut circle saw.
>
> However my main occupation was Forestry and land clearance. I got bored 
> with saw milling and like the great outdoors. And a challenge!!!??
>
> Worked for some of the largest landowners in the country, and in my 
> travels came across many bit and bobs. If I thought they were interesting I 
> bought them 
>
> Roger The Triton super jaws great product and I still have one I have had 
> other things made by Triton.
>
> Richard
>
> On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 11:46:42 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
>  
>
> Sorry - I did not pick up on/see that.
>
> I assumed that anyone that was in to woodworking as much as/as long as 
> most of us on this Group posting would have a table saw of some sort/size.
>
>  
>
> You mean to say that there is a woodworker in The UK that Roger did not 
> sell a table saw to?!?  LoL!
>
> In your case then, look at the table saw as you would a boat or a swimming 
> pool.  It's best to not own own one - rather, have a friend that does.  
>
>  
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Richard Ellis 
> Sent: Jun 23, 2020 3:19 PM 
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> Subject: Re: Box making 
>
> Hi Mac
>
> As I have said before I have not got a Table Saw.
>
>  
>
> Richard
> --
> --
>
> On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 5:43:00 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Sorry - I saw that "TongXu" and immediately thought "Chi-Com knock-off". 
>
> Thanks for the link - however, I will not buy from China whenever I can 
> get a similar product made elsewhere. (Not always easy.)
>
> In the case of Woodpeckers' products, the Chi-Coms make *exact* copies 
> and, like you stated, sell them for a LOT less. (There was a time, not long 
> ago, where they even used Woodpecke

RE: Box making

2020-06-25 Thread artmarbles 
That is really a nice looking portable solution! 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 1:52 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Box making

 

Here is an old video of the triton work center 2000 I still have one great tool 
in its day

Still is I think. And a few of their other tools

Bill

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXi2gMaK0lQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww8PUGwgoNg

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGq5uPnEnMg

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6jFyd71t3w

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r73W_tzzbqE

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoXpQpgk-Ps

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, 25 June 2020 2:03 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Box making

 

Hello Everyone.

Triton is a brand that I know very little about. I know about there router. 
(bill has be raving over them for years now.) but I know next to nothing about 
this product line.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Wednesday, June 24, 2020, 06:53:36 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

I like triton too I still have a workcenter 2000, 2 super jaws and 5 triton 
routers I love triton routers I especially like the quick change option they 
have to allow you to move the router from one machine to another in seconds

 

Bill 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Thursday, 25 June 2020 1:01 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Box making

 

 I did not get into this small wood working game until I bought some land and 
decided to build a house on it. If you class a Triton saw bench with a Triton 
saw underneath, then I did have a sort of table saw. 

I was into much larger saws , bought three saw mills from Stenners of Tiverton 
when I had my sawmill. And a double ended cross cut circle saw.

However my main occupation was Forestry and land clearance. I got bored with 
saw milling and like the great outdoors. And a challenge!!!??

Worked for some of the largest landowners in the country, and in my travels 
came across many bit and bobs. If I thought they were interesting I bought them 

Roger The Triton super jaws great product and I still have one I have had other 
things made by Triton.

Richard

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 11:46:42 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:

Richard,

 

Sorry - I did not pick up on/see that.

I assumed that anyone that was in to woodworking as much as/as long as most of 
us on this Group posting would have a table saw of some sort/size.

 

You mean to say that there is a woodworker in The UK that Roger did not sell a 
table saw to?!?  LoL!

In your case then, look at the table saw as you would a boat or a swimming 
pool.  It's best to not own own one - rather, have a friend that does.
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/98277158cd20b/smile.png?part=0.1=0>
 

 

Mac


  _  


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: Richard Ellis 
Sent: Jun 23, 2020 3:19 PM 
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Box making 

Hi Mac

As I have said before I have not got a Table Saw.

 

Richard


  _  


  _  


On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 5:43:00 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:

Bill,

Sorry - I saw that "TongXu" and immediately thought "Chi-Com knock-off". 

Thanks for the link - however, I will not buy from China whenever I can get a 
similar product made elsewhere. (Not always easy.)

In the case of Woodpeckers' products, the Chi-Coms make exact copies and, like 
you stated, sell them for a LOT less. (There was a time, not long ago, where 
they even used Woodpeckers' photos for their Chi-Com products in their eBay 
postings.)

If the Woodpecker pieces (made of aluminum) are pricey, there are ones made of 
high-tech polymers, like the one you posted, available thru Rockler, Woodcraft, 
Peachtree, Klingspor, etc. (possibly made in China too)

 

Brigitte - you get The Prize - for your recommendation to "Make your own" out 
of plywood.  

 

Richard - If you have your table saw and miter gauge set up to give you 
accurate 90º cuts, why not create a jig from plywood that will fit perfectly 
inside the assembled box (before you glue it up - test fit it)?  The jig should 
be 2 pieces of ply with a spacer block between them.  Size that spacer so that 
one of the ply pieces will lay flush with the bottom edges of the bottom of the 
box and the top ply piece will be close to even with the top edges of the top 
of the box.  Apperance-wise, (if the sides were all squares instead of 
rectangles) it will look like you now have a solid wood cube. (I

Re: Box making

2020-06-25 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Pretty Neat! Thank you.
C.A.G.On Thursday, June 25, 2020, 04:52:29 AM EDT,  
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Here is an old video of the triton work center 2000 I still have one great tool 
in its day

Still is I think. And a few of their other tools

Bill

  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXi2gMaK0lQ



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww8PUGwgoNg

  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGq5uPnEnMg

  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6jFyd71t3w

  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r73W_tzzbqE

  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoXpQpgk-Ps

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Thursday, 25 June 2020 2:03 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Box making

  

Hello Everyone.

Triton is a brand that I know very little about. I know about there router. 
(bill has be raving over them for years now.) but I know next to nothing about 
this product line.

  

C.A.G.

  

On Wednesday, June 24, 2020, 06:53:36 PM EDT,  wrote: 

  

  

I like triton too I still have a workcenter 2000, 2 super jaws and 5 triton 
routers I love triton routers I especially like the quick change option they 
have to allow you to move the router from one machine to another in seconds

 

Bill 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Thursday, 25 June 2020 1:01 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Box making

 

 I did not get into this small wood working game until I bought some land and 
decided to build a house on it. If you class a Triton saw bench with a Triton 
saw underneath, then I did have a sort of table saw. 

I was into much larger saws , bought three saw mills from Stenners of Tiverton 
when I had my sawmill. And a double ended cross cut circle saw.

However my main occupation was Forestry and land clearance. I got bored with 
saw milling and like the great outdoors. And a challenge!!!??

Worked for some of the largest landowners in the country, and in my travels 
came across many bit and bobs. If I thought they were interesting I bought them 

Roger The Triton super jaws great product and I still have one I have had other 
things made by Triton.

Richard

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 11:46:42 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:


Richard,

 

Sorry - I did not pick up on/see that.

I assumed that anyone that was in to woodworking as much as/as long as most of 
us on this Group posting would have a table saw of some sort/size.

 

You mean to say that there is a woodworker in The UK that Roger did not sell a 
table saw to?!?  LoL!

In your case then, look at the table saw as you would a boat or a swimming 
pool.  It's best to not own own one - rather, have a friend that does.  

 

Mac


-Original Message- 
From: Richard Ellis 
Sent: Jun 23, 2020 3:19 PM 
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Box making 

Hi Mac

As I have said before I have not got a Table Saw.

 

Richard

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 5:43:00 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:


Bill,

Sorry - I saw that "TongXu" and immediately thought "Chi-Com knock-off". 

Thanks for the link - however, I will not buy from China whenever I can get a 
similar product made elsewhere. (Not always easy.)

In the case of Woodpeckers' products, the Chi-Coms make exact copies and, like 
you stated, sell them for a LOT less. (There was a time, not long ago, where 
they even used Woodpeckers' photos for their Chi-Com products in their eBay 
postings.)

If the Woodpecker pieces (made of aluminum) are pricey, there are ones made of 
high-tech polymers, like the one you posted, available thru Rockler, Woodcraft, 
Peachtree, Klingspor, etc. (possibly made in China too)

 

Brigitte - you get The Prize - for your recommendation to "Make your own" out 
of plywood.  

 

Richard - If you have your table saw and miter gauge set up to give you 
accurate 90º cuts, why not create a jig from plywood that will fit perfectly 
inside the assembled box (before you glue it up - test fit it)?  The jig should 
be 2 pieces of ply with a spacer block between them.  Size that spacer so that 
one of the ply pieces will lay flush with the bottom edges of the bott

RE: Box making

2020-06-25 Thread bulkeley 
Here is an old video of the triton work center 2000 I still have one great tool 
in its day

Still is I think. And a few of their other tools

Bill

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXi2gMaK0lQ



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww8PUGwgoNg

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGq5uPnEnMg

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6jFyd71t3w

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r73W_tzzbqE

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoXpQpgk-Ps

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Thursday, 25 June 2020 2:03 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Box making

 

Hello Everyone.

Triton is a brand that I know very little about. I know about there router. 
(bill has be raving over them for years now.) but I know next to nothing about 
this product line.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Wednesday, June 24, 2020, 06:53:36 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

I like triton too I still have a workcenter 2000, 2 super jaws and 5 triton 
routers I love triton routers I especially like the quick change option they 
have to allow you to move the router from one machine to another in seconds

 

Bill 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Thursday, 25 June 2020 1:01 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Box making

 

 I did not get into this small wood working game until I bought some land and 
decided to build a house on it. If you class a Triton saw bench with a Triton 
saw underneath, then I did have a sort of table saw. 

I was into much larger saws , bought three saw mills from Stenners of Tiverton 
when I had my sawmill. And a double ended cross cut circle saw.

However my main occupation was Forestry and land clearance. I got bored with 
saw milling and like the great outdoors. And a challenge!!!??

Worked for some of the largest landowners in the country, and in my travels 
came across many bit and bobs. If I thought they were interesting I bought them 

Roger The Triton super jaws great product and I still have one I have had other 
things made by Triton.

Richard

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 11:46:42 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:

Richard,

 

Sorry - I did not pick up on/see that.

I assumed that anyone that was in to woodworking as much as/as long as most of 
us on this Group posting would have a table saw of some sort/size.

 

You mean to say that there is a woodworker in The UK that Roger did not sell a 
table saw to?!?  LoL!

In your case then, look at the table saw as you would a boat or a swimming 
pool.  It's best to not own own one - rather, have a friend that does.
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/98277158cd20b/smile.png?part=0.1=0>
 

 

Mac


  _  


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: Richard Ellis 
Sent: Jun 23, 2020 3:19 PM 
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Box making 

Hi Mac

As I have said before I have not got a Table Saw.

 

Richard


  _  


  _  


On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 5:43:00 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:

Bill,

Sorry - I saw that "TongXu" and immediately thought "Chi-Com knock-off". 

Thanks for the link - however, I will not buy from China whenever I can get a 
similar product made elsewhere. (Not always easy.)

In the case of Woodpeckers' products, the Chi-Coms make exact copies and, like 
you stated, sell them for a LOT less. (There was a time, not long ago, where 
they even used Woodpeckers' photos for their Chi-Com products in their eBay 
postings.)

If the Woodpecker pieces (made of aluminum) are pricey, there are ones made of 
high-tech polymers, like the one you posted, available thru Rockler, Woodcraft, 
Peachtree, Klingspor, etc. (possibly made in China too)

 

Brigitte - you get The Prize - for your recommendation to "Make your own" out 
of plywood.  

 

Richard - If you have your table saw and miter gauge set up to give you 
accurate 90º cuts, why not create a jig from plywood that will fit perfectly 
inside the assembled box (before you glue it up - test fit it)?  The jig should 
be 2 pieces of ply with a spacer block between them.  Size that spacer so that 
one of the ply pieces will lay flush with the bottom edges of the bottom of the 
box and the top ply piece will be close to even with the top edges of the top 
of the box.  Apperance-wise, (if the sides were all squares instead of 
rectangles) it will look like you now have a solid wood cube. (In your case it 
will be a rectangular box.)  Now you can glue he 4 sides together, insert the 
Jig into the inside of the box frame, and clamp it.  The jig will square up all 
4 corners - all at once - you won't need 4 clamps.

The key to this is making sure your table saw & miter gauge set to 90º yield a 
90º cut.

 

Best of  luck!  (I know - you Brits d

Re: Box making

2020-06-24 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Hello Everyone.Triton is a brand that I know very little about. I know about 
there router. (bill has be raving over them for years now.) but I know next to 
nothing about this product line.
C.A.G.
On Wednesday, June 24, 2020, 06:53:36 PM EDT,  
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I like triton too I still have a workcenter 2000, 2 super jaws and 5 triton 
routers I love triton routers I especially like the quick change option they 
have to allow you to move the router from one machine to another in seconds

  

Bill 

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Thursday, 25 June 2020 1:01 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Box making

  

 I did not get into this small wood working game until I bought some land and 
decided to build a house on it. If you class a Triton saw bench with a Triton 
saw underneath, then I did have a sort of table saw. 

I was into much larger saws , bought three saw mills from Stenners of Tiverton 
when I had my sawmill. And a double ended cross cut circle saw.

However my main occupation was Forestry and land clearance. I got bored with 
saw milling and like the great outdoors. And a challenge!!!??

Worked for some of the largest landowners in the country, and in my travels 
came across many bit and bobs. If I thought they were interesting I bought them 

Roger The Triton super jaws great product and I still have one I have had other 
things made by Triton.

Richard

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 11:46:42 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:


Richard,

  

Sorry - I did not pick up on/see that.

I assumed that anyone that was in to woodworking as much as/as long as most of 
us on this Group posting would have a table saw of some sort/size.

  

You mean to say that there is a woodworker in The UK that Roger did not sell a 
table saw to?!?  LoL!

In your case then, look at the table saw as you would a boat or a swimming 
pool.  It's best to not own own one - rather, have a friend that does.  

  

Mac


-Original Message- 
From: Richard Ellis 
Sent: Jun 23, 2020 3:19 PM 
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Box making 

Hi Mac

As I have said before I have not got a Table Saw.

  

Richard

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 5:43:00 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:


Bill,

Sorry - I saw that "TongXu" and immediately thought "Chi-Com knock-off". 

Thanks for the link - however, I will not buy from China whenever I can get a 
similar product made elsewhere. (Not always easy.)

In the case of Woodpeckers' products, the Chi-Coms make exact copies and, like 
you stated, sell them for a LOT less. (There was a time, not long ago, where 
they even used Woodpeckers' photos for their Chi-Com products in their eBay 
postings.)

If the Woodpecker pieces (made of aluminum) are pricey, there are ones made of 
high-tech polymers, like the one you posted, available thru Rockler, Woodcraft, 
Peachtree, Klingspor, etc. (possibly made in China too)

  

Brigitte - you get The Prize - for your recommendation to "Make your own" out 
of plywood.  

  

Richard - If you have your table saw and miter gauge set up to give you 
accurate 90º cuts, why not create a jig from plywood that will fit perfectly 
inside the assembled box (before you glue it up - test fit it)?  The jig should 
be 2 pieces of ply with a spacer block between them.  Size that spacer so that 
one of the ply pieces will lay flush with the bottom edges of the bottom of the 
box and the top ply piece will be close to even with the top edges of the top 
of the box.  Apperance-wise, (if the sides were all squares instead of 
rectangles) it will look like you now have a solid wood cube. (In your case it 
will be a rectangular box.)  Now you can glue he 4 sides together, insert the 
Jig into the inside of the box frame, and clamp it.  The jig will square up all 
4 corners - all at once - you won't need 4 clamps.

The key to this is making sure your table saw & miter gauge set to 90º yield a 
90º cut.

  

Best of  luck!  (I know - you Brits don't need "luck" you have "Skill"! )

  

Mac


-Original Message- 
From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
Sent: Jun 23, 2020 4:07 AM 
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Box making 

Here you go Richard 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TONGXU-Position-Accessory-Auxiliary-Woodworking/dp/B07VMKZ65N/ref=pd_sbs_60_3/2

RE: Box making

2020-06-24 Thread bulkeley 
I like triton too I still have a workcenter 2000, 2 super jaws and 5 triton 
routers I love triton routers I especially like the quick change option they 
have to allow you to move the router from one machine to another in seconds

 

Bill 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Thursday, 25 June 2020 1:01 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Box making

 

 I did not get into this small wood working game until I bought some land and 
decided to build a house on it. If you class a Triton saw bench with a Triton 
saw underneath, then I did have a sort of table saw. 

I was into much larger saws , bought three saw mills from Stenners of Tiverton 
when I had my sawmill. And a double ended cross cut circle saw.

However my main occupation was Forestry and land clearance. I got bored with 
saw milling and like the great outdoors. And a challenge!!!??

Worked for some of the largest landowners in the country, and in my travels 
came across many bit and bobs. If I thought they were interesting I bought them 

Roger The Triton super jaws great product and I still have one I have had other 
things made by Triton.

Richard

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 11:46:42 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:

Richard,

 

Sorry - I did not pick up on/see that.

I assumed that anyone that was in to woodworking as much as/as long as most of 
us on this Group posting would have a table saw of some sort/size.

 

You mean to say that there is a woodworker in The UK that Roger did not sell a 
table saw to?!?  LoL!

In your case then, look at the table saw as you would a boat or a swimming 
pool.  It's best to not own own one - rather, have a friend that does.
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/98277158cd20b/smile.png?part=0.1=0>
 

 

Mac


  _  


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: Richard Ellis 
Sent: Jun 23, 2020 3:19 PM 
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Box making 

Hi Mac

As I have said before I have not got a Table Saw.

 

Richard


  _  


  _  


On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 5:43:00 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:

Bill,

Sorry - I saw that "TongXu" and immediately thought "Chi-Com knock-off". 

Thanks for the link - however, I will not buy from China whenever I can get a 
similar product made elsewhere. (Not always easy.)

In the case of Woodpeckers' products, the Chi-Coms make exact copies and, like 
you stated, sell them for a LOT less. (There was a time, not long ago, where 
they even used Woodpeckers' photos for their Chi-Com products in their eBay 
postings.)

If the Woodpecker pieces (made of aluminum) are pricey, there are ones made of 
high-tech polymers, like the one you posted, available thru Rockler, Woodcraft, 
Peachtree, Klingspor, etc. (possibly made in China too)

 

Brigitte - you get The Prize - for your recommendation to "Make your own" out 
of plywood.  

 

Richard - If you have your table saw and miter gauge set up to give you 
accurate 90º cuts, why not create a jig from plywood that will fit perfectly 
inside the assembled box (before you glue it up - test fit it)?  The jig should 
be 2 pieces of ply with a spacer block between them.  Size that spacer so that 
one of the ply pieces will lay flush with the bottom edges of the bottom of the 
box and the top ply piece will be close to even with the top edges of the top 
of the box.  Apperance-wise, (if the sides were all squares instead of 
rectangles) it will look like you now have a solid wood cube. (In your case it 
will be a rectangular box.)  Now you can glue he 4 sides together, insert the 
Jig into the inside of the box frame, and clamp it.  The jig will square up all 
4 corners - all at once - you won't need 4 clamps.

The key to this is making sure your table saw & miter gauge set to 90º yield a 
90º cut.

 

Best of  luck!  (I know - you Brits don't need "luck" you have "Skill"!   
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/96e9e59218c2c/smile.png?part=0.1=0>
 )

 

Mac


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  _  


-Original Message- 
From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au>  
Sent: Jun 23, 2020 4:07 AM 
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>  
Subject: RE: Box making 

Here you go Richard 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TONGXU-Position-Accessory-Auxiliary-Woodworking/dp/B07VMKZ65N/ref=pd_sbs_60_3/261-2781080-9222905?_encoding=UTF8
 
<https://www.amazon.co.uk/TONGXU-Position-Accessory-Auxiliary-Woodworking/dp/B07VMKZ65N/ref=pd_sbs_60_3/261-2781080-9222905?_encoding=UTF8_rd_i=B07VMKZ65N_rd_r=c3cefc80-fb5b-4fa1-9644-613897b30d4d_rd_w=RjgiZ_rd_wg=aYaGT_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078_rd_r=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC=1=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC>
 
_rd_i=B07VMKZ65N_rd_r=c3cefc80-fb5b-4fa1-9644-613897b30d4d_rd_w=RjgiZ_rd_wg=aYaGT_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078_rd_r=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC=1=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8

Re: Box making

2020-06-24 Thread Richard Ellis 
 I did not get into this small wood working game until I bought some land 
and decided to build a house on it. If you class a Triton saw bench with a 
Triton saw underneath, then I did have a sort of table saw. 
I was into much larger saws , bought three saw mills from Stenners of 
Tiverton when I had my sawmill. And a double ended cross cut circle saw.
However my main occupation was Forestry and land clearance. I got bored 
with saw milling and like the great outdoors. And a challenge!!!??
Worked for some of the largest landowners in the country, and in my travels 
came across many bit and bobs. If I thought they were interesting I bought 
them 
Roger The Triton super jaws great product and I still have one I have had 
other things made by Triton.
Richard

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 11:46:42 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
> Sorry - I did not pick up on/see that.
> I assumed that anyone that was in to woodworking as much as/as long as 
> most of us on this Group posting would have a table saw of some sort/size.
>
> You mean to say that there is a woodworker in The UK that Roger did not 
> sell a table saw to?!?  LoL!
> In your case then, look at the table saw as you would a boat or a swimming 
> pool.  It's best to not own own one - rather, have a friend that does.  
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Richard Ellis 
> Sent: Jun 23, 2020 3:19 PM 
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> Subject: Re: Box making 
>
> Hi Mac
> As I have said before I have not got a Table Saw.
>
> Richard
> --
> --
> On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 5:43:00 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
>>
>> Bill,
>> Sorry - I saw that "TongXu" and immediately thought "Chi-Com knock-off". 
>> Thanks for the link - however, I will not buy from China whenever I can 
>> get a similar product made elsewhere. (Not always easy.)
>> In the case of Woodpeckers' products, the Chi-Coms make *exact* copies 
>> and, like you stated, sell them for a LOT less. (There was a time, not long 
>> ago, where they even used Woodpeckers' photos for their Chi-Com products in 
>> their eBay postings.)
>> If the Woodpecker pieces (made of aluminum) are pricey, there are ones 
>> made of high-tech polymers, like the one you posted, available thru 
>> Rockler, Woodcraft, Peachtree, Klingspor, etc. (possibly made in China too)
>>
>> Brigitte - you get The Prize - for your recommendation to "Make your own" 
>> out of plywood.  
>>
>> Richard - If you have your table saw and miter gauge set up to give you 
>> accurate 90º cuts, why not create a jig from plywood that will fit 
>> perfectly inside the assembled box (before you glue it up - test fit it)?  
>> The jig should be 2 pieces of ply with a spacer block between them.  Size 
>> that spacer so that one of the ply pieces will lay flush with the bottom 
>> edges of the bottom of the box and the top ply piece will be close to even 
>> with the top edges of the top of the box.  Apperance-wise, (if the sides 
>> were all squares instead of rectangles) it will look like you now have a 
>> solid wood cube. (In your case it will be a rectangular box.)  Now you can 
>> glue he 4 sides together, insert the Jig into the inside of the box frame, 
>> and clamp it.  The jig will square up all 4 corners - all at once - you 
>> won't need 4 clamps.
>> The key to this is making sure your table saw & miter gauge set to 90º 
>> yield a 90º cut.
>>
>> Best of  luck!  (I know - you Brits don't need "luck" you have "Skill"! )
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
>> Sent: Jun 23, 2020 4:07 AM 
>> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Box making 
>>
>> Here you go Richard 
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/TONGXU-Position-Accessory-Auxiliary-Woodworking/dp/B07VMKZ65N/ref=pd_sbs_60_3/261-2781080-9222905?_encoding=UTF8_rd_i=B07VMKZ65N_rd_r=c3cefc80-fb5b-4fa1-9644-613897b30d4d_rd_w=RjgiZ_rd_wg=aYaGT_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078_rd_r=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC=1=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC
>>
>>  
>>
>> a bit more reenable price  I wouldn’t pay that much  either  and you get 
>> 4 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>> --
>> --
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 5:11 PM
>> *To:

Re: Box making

2020-06-23 Thread Bawdsey64 
Hi Mac
I came into the woodworking business through winning a Triton Super Jaws at a 
show where I had gone looking for a table saw.  As a result of winning the 
Super Jaws the guy who delivered it told me that he was a distributor for 
Triton, actually he was a manufacturers rep, the deal being you had a 
territory, Triton advertised the products in national daily papers not 
woodworking magazines which was a smart move,. The reps had to buy their demo 
kit which cost around $3,000.00 but with a 33% discount along with demo tapes 
to send out as a follow up for the sales leads. Conversation rate ran around 1 
in 4 or 5 which was good and the rep made 33 points. It was my 55th birthday 
and so I got into woodworking tool sales alongside my custom computer cabinet 
business and industrial micro-computer systems.. So back then I could have sold 
Richard a nice saw table but he was not in my territory. After that I started 
selling Festool and all my major tools are Festool. When you buy trade it makes 
sense to equip yourself properly and with the best. 
Cheers
Roger






From: M.W.Foscue
Received: 23/06/2020 23:46:40 +01:00
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Richard,

Sorry - I did not pick up on/see that.
I assumed that anyone that was in to woodworking as much as/as long as most of 
us on this Group posting would have a table saw of some sort/size.

You mean to say that there is a woodworker in The UK that Roger did not sell a 
table saw to?!?  LoL!
In your case then, look at the table saw as you would a boat or a swimming 
pool.  It's best to not own own one - rather, have a friend that does.  

Mac

-Original Message-
From: Richard Ellis 
Sent: Jun 23, 2020 3:19 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Box making


Hi Mac
As I have said before I have not got a Table Saw.

Richard

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 5:43:00 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
Bill,
Sorry - I saw that "TongXu" and immediately thought "Chi-Com knock-off".

Thanks for the link - however, I will not buy from China whenever I can get a 
similar product made elsewhere. (Not always easy.)

In the case of Woodpeckers' products, the Chi-Coms make exact copies and, like 
you stated, sell them for a LOT less. (There was a time, not long ago, where 
they even used Woodpeckers' photos for their Chi-Com products in their eBay 
postings.)
If the Woodpecker pieces (made of aluminum) are pricey, there are ones made of 
high-tech polymers, like the one you posted, available thru Rockler, Woodcraft, 
Peachtree, Klingspor, etc. (possibly made in China too)

Brigitte - you get The Prize - for your recommendation to "Make your own" out 
of plywood.  


Richard - If you have your table saw and miter gauge set up to give you 
accurate 90º cuts, why not create a jig from plywood that will fit perfectly 
inside the assembled box (before you glue it up - test fit it)?  The jig should 
be 2 pieces of ply with a spacer block between them.  Size that spacer so that 
one of the ply pieces will lay flush with the bottom edges of the bottom of the 
box and the top ply piece will be close to even with the top edges of the top 
of the box.  Apperance-wise, (if the sides were all squares instead of 
rectangles) it will look like you now have a solid wood cube. (In your case it 
will be a rectangular box.)  Now you can glue he 4 sides together, insert the 
Jig into the inside of the box frame, and clamp it.  The jig will square up all 
4 corners - all at once - you won't need 4 clamps.
The key to this is making sure your table saw & miter gauge set to 90º yield a 
90º cut.

Best of  luck!  (I know - you Brits don't need "luck" you have "Skill"! 
 )

Mac

-Original Message-
From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
Sent: Jun 23, 2020 4:07 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Box making


Here you go Richard
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TONGXU-Position-Accessory-Auxiliary-Woodworking/dp/B07VMKZ65N/ref=pd_sbs_60_3/261-2781080-9222905?_encoding=UTF8_rd_i=B07VMKZ65N_rd_r=c3cefc80-fb5b-4fa1-9644-613897b30d4d_rd_w=RjgiZ_rd_wg=aYaGT_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078_rd_r=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC=1=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC
 
[https://www.amazon.co.uk/TONGXU-Position-Accessory-Auxiliary-Woodworking/dp/B07VMKZ65N/ref=pd_sbs_60_3/261-2781080-9222905?_encoding=UTF8pd_rd_i=B07VMKZ65Npd_rd_r=c3cefc80-fb5b-4fa1-9644-613897b30d4dpd_rd_w=RjgiZpd_rd_wg=aYaGTpf_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078pf_rd_r=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVCpsc=1refRID=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC]
 
a bit more reenable price  I wouldn’t pay that much  either  and you get 4
 
Bill


From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 23 June 2020 5:11 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Box making
 

Mac. & Roger
I have just been onto the woodworkers workshop To have a look at the clamping 
squares. I,, like Roger,, have been selling  and buying all sorts of thing from 
land to lathe parts. But buying is w

Re: Box making

2020-06-23 Thread M.W.Foscue 
Richard,Sorry - I did not pick up on/see that.I assumed that anyone that was in to woodworking as much as/as long as most of us on this Group posting would have a table saw of some sort/size.You mean to say that there is a woodworker in The UK that Roger did not sell a table saw to?!?  LoL!In your case then, look at the table saw as you would a boat or a swimming pool.  It's best to not own own one - rather, have a friend that does.  Mac-Original Message-
From: Richard Ellis 
Sent: Jun 23, 2020 3:19 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Box making

Hi MacAs I have said before I have not got a Table Saw.RichardOn Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 5:43:00 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:Bill,Sorry - I saw that "TongXu" and immediately thought "Chi-Com knock-off". Thanks for the link - however, I will not buy from China whenever I can get a similar product made elsewhere. (Not always easy.)In the case of Woodpeckers' products, the Chi-Coms make exact copies and, like you stated, sell them for a LOT less. (There was a time, not long ago, where they even used Woodpeckers' photos for their Chi-Com products in their eBay postings.)If the Woodpecker pieces (made of aluminum) are pricey, there are ones made of high-tech polymers, like the one you posted, available thru Rockler, Woodcraft, Peachtree, Klingspor, etc. (possibly made in China too)Brigitte - you get The Prize - for your recommendation to "Make your own" out of plywood.  Richard - If you have your table saw and miter gauge set up to give you accurate 90º cuts, why not create a jig from plywood that will fit perfectly inside the assembled box (before you glue it up - test fit it)?  The jig should be 2 pieces of ply with a spacer block between them.  Size that spacer so that one of the ply pieces will lay flush with the bottom edges of the bottom of the box and the top ply piece will be close to even with the top edges of the top of the box.  Apperance-wise, (if the sides were all squares instead of rectangles) it will look like you now have a solid wood cube. (In your case it will be a rectangular box.)  Now you can glue he 4 sides together, insert the Jig into the inside of the box frame, and clamp it.  The jig will square up all 4 corners - all at once - you won't need 4 clamps.The key to this is making sure your table saw & miter gauge set to 90º yield a 90º cut.Best of  luck!  (I know - you Brits don't need "luck" you have "Skill"!  )Mac-Original Message-
From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Jun 23, 2020 4:07 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Box making

Here you go Richard https://www.amazon.co.uk/TONGXU-Position-Accessory-Auxiliary-Woodworking/dp/B07VMKZ65N/ref=pd_sbs_60_3/261-2781080-9222905?_encoding=UTF8_rd_i=B07VMKZ65N_rd_r=c3cefc80-fb5b-4fa1-9644-613897b30d4d_rd_w=RjgiZ_rd_wg=aYaGT_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078&pf_rd_r=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC&psc=1=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC a bit more reenable price  I wouldn’t pay that much  either  and you get 4  Bill From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard EllisSent: Tuesday, 23 June 2020 5:11 PMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: Box making Mac. & RogerI have just been onto the woodworkers workshop To have a look at the clamping squares. I,, like Roger,, have been selling  and buying all sorts of thing from land to lathe parts. But buying is where the profit is if you use your brains. To buy squares at £64.95  must think I am stupid. On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 8:15:21 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:Richard, I would do the same as Bill.  My SawStop, for all practical purposes, is "Dead On" at making 90º cuts.I do not have confidence in the precision capability of the LOM to attempt to perfectly "square" a piece of wood on it.  The LOM is great for a lot - but not to establish perfect 90º angles four times to create a cube. (backlash and just the slight "slop"in the rail tracking)  If somewhere between 88 and 92 degrees was "ok" then I might try the LOM. I suggest you contact a GREAT American precision manufacturer - Woodpeckers - and buy a few of their "Clamping Squares"  (Sorry, Roger, they do not make cheese.) They will square up whatever it is you want squared up.  There are a variety of ways you can employ them to accomplish that. Be well - and do good.Mac-----Original Message- From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au Sent: Jun 22, 2020 1:58 PM To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Box making I would do it on the spindle with the indexing gear using a square off the rails to check it. But I’m guessing I usually square all  my stock on the table saw. BillFrom: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard EllisSent: Tuesday, 23 June 2020 2:19 AMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.c

Re: Box making

2020-06-23 Thread Bawdsey64 
Hi Richard
You, plus Brigitte's husband are not the only Legacy users/owners in the UK 
there are about 80 to 90+ that keep their heads down and some 30 of them have 
REVOs. 
Keep looking you might find more of them.  Oh I forgot, the Legacy 2500 that 
came into the UKwas sold twice here and then went off to Russia so you won't 
find that.
Cheers
Roger






From: Richard Ellis
Received: 23/06/2020 20:25:34 +01:00
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Hi Brigitte
Nice to know I am not the only Legacy user in the U.K. Which model do you have 
? I have  Revo and a 900 that I am trying to sell on, with shorter rails. that 
have gone onto the Revo
Cheers
Richard
I have some very good ply so will set about making some clamp squares

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 6:52:24 PM UTC+1, Gavin wrote:
Hi Richard, Yes, we live near Exmouth, East Devon.
I have made a set of plywood clamping squares out of 3/4" ply.
Brigitte

On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, 12:13 Richard Ellis,  wrote:

Hi
 This is the second go at replying to your post Re: plywood  Good idea will 
give it a go next time. By the way are you in the U.K. ??

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 9:54:45 AM UTC+1, Gavin wrote:
Morning people,
Surely you could make your own clamping squares like these out of thick plywood?
Legacy Widow

On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 09:08,  wrote:

Here you go Richard
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TONGXU-Position-Accessory-Auxiliary-Woodworking/dp/B07VMKZ65N/ref=pd_sbs_60_3/261-2781080-9222905?_encoding=UTF8_rd_i=B07VMKZ65N_rd_r=c3cefc80-fb5b-4fa1-9644-613897b30d4d_rd_w=RjgiZ_rd_wg=aYaGT_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078_rd_r=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC=1=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC
 
[https://www.amazon.co.uk/TONGXU-Position-Accessory-Auxiliary-Woodworking/dp/B07VMKZ65N/ref=pd_sbs_60_3/261-2781080-9222905?_encoding=UTF8pd_rd_i=B07VMKZ65Npd_rd_r=c3cefc80-fb5b-4fa1-9644-613897b30d4dpd_rd_w=RjgiZpd_rd_wg=aYaGTpf_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078pf_rd_r=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVCpsc=1refRID=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC]
 
a bit more reenable price  I wouldn’t pay that much  either  and you get 4
 
Bill
From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 23 June 2020 5:11 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Box making
 

Mac. & Roger
I have just been onto the woodworkers workshop To have a look at the clamping 
squares. I,, like Roger,, have been selling  and buying all sorts of thing from 
land to lathe parts. But buying is where the profit is if you use your brains. 
To buy squares at £64.95  must think I am stupid.
On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 8:15:21 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
Richard,
 
I would do the same as Bill.  My SawStop, for all practical purposes, is "Dead 
On" at making 90º cuts.
I do not have confidence in the precision capability of the LOM to attempt to 
perfectly "square" a piece of wood on it.  The LOM is great for a lot - but not 
to establish perfect 90º angles four times to create a cube. (backlash and just 
the slight "slop"in the rail tracking)  If somewhere between 88 and 92 degrees 
was "ok" then I might try the LOM.
 
I suggest you contact a GREAT American precision manufacturer - Woodpeckers - 
and buy a few of their "Clamping Squares" 
[https://www.woodpeck.com/clamping-squares-plus.html] 
(Sorry, Roger, they do not make cheese.)
 
They will square up whatever it is you want squared up.  There are a variety of 
ways you can employ them to accomplish that.
 
Be well - and do good.
Mac
-Original Message-
From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
Sent: Jun 22, 2020 1:58 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Box making
I would do it on the spindle with the indexing gear using a square off the 
rails to check it.
 
But I’m guessing I usually square all  my stock on the table saw.
 
Bill
From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 23 June 2020 2:19 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Box making
 
I am making some small boxes 4x8 inch 4 inch deep. I have done all the box 
joints using 1/2 inc cutter, Four turns with the handle worked well.
Now glue up --I have block of wood 3 1/2 inch but not quite square. The 
question is how to make it square on the Legacy---45 180 90 or planing on the 
table, Table will get two sides o.k. but how about the others. The block is for 
clamping, one corner off for glue run out.
Richard
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Re: Box making

2020-06-23 Thread Richard Ellis 
Hi Brigitte
Nice to know I am not the only Legacy user in the U.K. Which model do you 
have ? I have  Revo and a 900 that I am trying to sell on, with shorter 
rails. that have gone onto the Revo
Cheers
Richard
I have some very good ply so will set about making some clamp squares

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 6:52:24 PM UTC+1, Gavin wrote:
>
> Hi Richard, Yes, we live near Exmouth, East Devon.
> I have made a set of plywood clamping squares out of 3/4" ply.
> Brigitte
>
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, 12:13 Richard Ellis,  > wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>  This is the second go at replying to your post Re: plywood  Good idea 
>> will give it a go next time. By the way are you in the U.K. ??
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 9:54:45 AM UTC+1, Gavin wrote:
>>>
>>> Morning people,
>>> Surely you could make your own clamping squares like these out of thick 
>>> plywood?
>>> Legacy Widow
>>>
>>> On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 09:08,  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here you go Richard 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/TONGXU-Position-Accessory-Auxiliary-Woodworking/dp/B07VMKZ65N/ref=pd_sbs_60_3/261-2781080-9222905?_encoding=UTF8_rd_i=B07VMKZ65N_rd_r=c3cefc80-fb5b-4fa1-9644-613897b30d4d_rd_w=RjgiZ_rd_wg=aYaGT_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078_rd_r=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC=1=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> a bit more reenable price  I wouldn’t pay that much  either  and you 
>>>> get 4 
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
>>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 5:11 PM
>>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Box making
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mac. & Roger
>>>>
>>>> I have just been onto the woodworkers workshop To have a look at the 
>>>> clamping squares. I,, like Roger,, have been selling  and buying all sorts 
>>>> of thing from land to lathe parts. But buying is where the profit is if 
>>>> you 
>>>> use your brains. To buy squares at £64.95  must think I am stupid. 
>>>> On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 8:15:21 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Richard,
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> I would do the same as Bill.  My SawStop, for all practical purposes, 
>>>> is "Dead On" at making 90º cuts.
>>>>
>>>> I do not have confidence in the precision capability of the LOM to 
>>>> attempt to perfectly "square" a piece of wood on it.  The LOM is great for 
>>>> a lot - but not to establish perfect 90º angles four times to create a 
>>>> cube. (backlash and just the slight "slop"in the rail tracking)  If 
>>>> somewhere between 88 and 92 degrees was "ok" then I might try the LOM.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> I suggest you contact a GREAT American precision manufacturer - 
>>>> Woodpeckers - and buy a few of their "Clamping Squares" 
>>>> <https://www.woodpeck.com/clamping-squares-plus.html>  
>>>>
>>>> (Sorry, Roger, they do not make cheese.)
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> They will square up whatever it is you want squared up.  There are a 
>>>> variety of ways you can employ them to accomplish that.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Be well - and do good.
>>>>
>>>> Mac
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message- 
>>>> From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
>>>> Sent: Jun 22, 2020 1:58 PM 
>>>> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>>> Subject: RE: Box making 
>>>>
>>>> I would do it on the spindle with the indexing gear using a square off 
>>>> the rails to check it.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> But I’m guessing I usually square all  my stock on the table saw.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
>>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard

Re: Box making

2020-06-23 Thread Richard Ellis 
Hi Mac
As I have said before I have not got a Table Saw.

Richard

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 5:43:00 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
>
> Bill,
> Sorry - I saw that "TongXu" and immediately thought "Chi-Com knock-off". 
> Thanks for the link - however, I will not buy from China whenever I can 
> get a similar product made elsewhere. (Not always easy.)
> In the case of Woodpeckers' products, the Chi-Coms make *exact* copies 
> and, like you stated, sell them for a LOT less. (There was a time, not long 
> ago, where they even used Woodpeckers' photos for their Chi-Com products in 
> their eBay postings.)
> If the Woodpecker pieces (made of aluminum) are pricey, there are ones 
> made of high-tech polymers, like the one you posted, available thru 
> Rockler, Woodcraft, Peachtree, Klingspor, etc. (possibly made in China too)
>
> Brigitte - you get The Prize - for your recommendation to "Make your own" 
> out of plywood.  
>
> Richard - If you have your table saw and miter gauge set up to give you 
> accurate 90º cuts, why not create a jig from plywood that will fit 
> perfectly inside the assembled box (before you glue it up - test fit it)?  
> The jig should be 2 pieces of ply with a spacer block between them.  Size 
> that spacer so that one of the ply pieces will lay flush with the bottom 
> edges of the bottom of the box and the top ply piece will be close to even 
> with the top edges of the top of the box.  Apperance-wise, (if the sides 
> were all squares instead of rectangles) it will look like you now have a 
> solid wood cube. (In your case it will be a rectangular box.)  Now you can 
> glue he 4 sides together, insert the Jig into the inside of the box frame, 
> and clamp it.  The jig will square up all 4 corners - all at once - you 
> won't need 4 clamps.
> The key to this is making sure your table saw & miter gauge set to 90º 
> yield a 90º cut.
>
> Best of  luck!  (I know - you Brits don't need "luck" you have "Skill"! )
>
> Mac
> --
> ------
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au  
> Sent: Jun 23, 2020 4:07 AM 
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: RE: Box making 
>
> Here you go Richard 
>
>
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/TONGXU-Position-Accessory-Auxiliary-Woodworking/dp/B07VMKZ65N/ref=pd_sbs_60_3/261-2781080-9222905?_encoding=UTF8_rd_i=B07VMKZ65N_rd_r=c3cefc80-fb5b-4fa1-9644-613897b30d4d_rd_w=RjgiZ_rd_wg=aYaGT_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078_rd_r=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC=1=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC
>
>  
>
> a bit more reenable price  I wouldn’t pay that much  either  and you get 4 
>
>  
>
> Bill
> --
> ------
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *Richard 
> Ellis
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 5:11 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills  >
> *Subject:* Re: Box making
>
>  
>
>
> Mac. & Roger
>
> I have just been onto the woodworkers workshop To have a look at the 
> clamping squares. I,, like Roger,, have been selling  and buying all sorts 
> of thing from land to lathe parts. But buying is where the profit is if you 
> use your brains. To buy squares at £64.95  must think I am stupid. 
> --
> --
>
>
> On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 8:15:21 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
>  
>
> I would do the same as Bill.  My SawStop, for all practical purposes, is 
> "Dead On" at making 90º cuts.
>
> I do not have confidence in the precision capability of the LOM to attempt 
> to perfectly "square" a piece of wood on it.  The LOM is great for a lot - 
> but not to establish perfect 90º angles four times to create a cube. 
> (backlash and just the slight "slop"in the rail tracking)  If somewhere 
> between 88 and 92 degrees was "ok" then I might try the LOM.
>
>  
>
> I suggest you contact a GREAT American precision manufacturer - 
> Woodpeckers - and buy a few of their "Clamping Squares" 
> <https://www.woodpeck.com/clamping-squares-plus.html>  
>
> (Sorry, Roger, they do not make cheese.)
>
>  
>
> They will square up whatever it is you want squared up.  There are a 
> variety of ways you can employ them to accomplish that.
>
>  
>
> Be well - and do good.
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
> Sent: Jun 22, 2020 1:58 PM 
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Box ma

Re: Box making

2020-06-23 Thread Brigitte Graham 
Hi Richard, Yes, we live near Exmouth, East Devon.
I have made a set of plywood clamping squares out of 3/4" ply.
Brigitte

On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, 12:13 Richard Ellis,  wrote:

> Hi
>  This is the second go at replying to your post Re: plywood  Good idea
> will give it a go next time. By the way are you in the U.K. ??
>
> On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 9:54:45 AM UTC+1, Gavin wrote:
>>
>> Morning people,
>> Surely you could make your own clamping squares like these out of thick
>> plywood?
>> Legacy Widow
>>
>> On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 09:08,  wrote:
>>
>>> Here you go Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/TONGXU-Position-Accessory-Auxiliary-Woodworking/dp/B07VMKZ65N/ref=pd_sbs_60_3/261-2781080-9222905?_encoding=UTF8_rd_i=B07VMKZ65N_rd_r=c3cefc80-fb5b-4fa1-9644-613897b30d4d_rd_w=RjgiZ_rd_wg=aYaGT_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078_rd_r=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC=1=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> a bit more reenable price  I wouldn’t pay that much  either  and you get
>>> 4
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 5:11 PM
>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>> *Subject:* Re: Box making
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mac. & Roger
>>>
>>> I have just been onto the woodworkers workshop To have a look at the
>>> clamping squares. I,, like Roger,, have been selling  and buying all sorts
>>> of thing from land to lathe parts. But buying is where the profit is if you
>>> use your brains. To buy squares at £64.95  must think I am stupid.
>>> On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 8:15:21 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
>>>
>>> Richard,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would do the same as Bill.  My SawStop, for all practical purposes, is
>>> "Dead On" at making 90º cuts.
>>>
>>> I do not have confidence in the precision capability of the LOM to
>>> attempt to perfectly "square" a piece of wood on it.  The LOM is great for
>>> a lot - but not to establish perfect 90º angles four times to create a
>>> cube. (backlash and just the slight "slop"in the rail tracking)  If
>>> somewhere between 88 and 92 degrees was "ok" then I might try the LOM.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I suggest you contact a GREAT American precision manufacturer -
>>> Woodpeckers - and buy a few of their "Clamping Squares"
>>> <https://www.woodpeck.com/clamping-squares-plus.html>
>>>
>>> (Sorry, Roger, they do not make cheese.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They will square up whatever it is you want squared up.  There are a
>>> variety of ways you can employ them to accomplish that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Be well - and do good.
>>>
>>> Mac
>>> --
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au
>>> Sent: Jun 22, 2020 1:58 PM
>>> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Box making
>>>
>>> I would do it on the spindle with the indexing gear using a square off
>>> the rails to check it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But I’m guessing I usually square all  my stock on the table saw.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>> --
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 2:19 AM
>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>> *Subject:* Box making
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am making some small boxes 4x8 inch 4 inch deep. I have done all the
>>> box joints using 1/2 inc cutter, Four turns with the handle worked well.
>>>
>>> Now glue up --I have block of wood 3 1/2 inch but not quite
>>> square. The question is how to make it square on the Legacy---45 180 90 or
>>> planing on the table, Table will get two sides o.k. but how about the
>>> others. The block is for clamping, one corner off for glue run out.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> --
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>> Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.
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RE: Box making

2020-06-23 Thread M.W.Foscue 
Bill,Sorry - I saw that "TongXu" and immediately thought "Chi-Com knock-off". Thanks for the link - however, I will not buy from China whenever I can get a similar product made elsewhere. (Not always easy.)In the case of Woodpeckers' products, the Chi-Coms make exact copies and, like you stated, sell them for a LOT less. (There was a time, not long ago, where they even used Woodpeckers' photos for their Chi-Com products in their eBay postings.)If the Woodpecker pieces (made of aluminum) are pricey, there are ones made of high-tech polymers, like the one you posted, available thru Rockler, Woodcraft, Peachtree, Klingspor, etc. (possibly made in China too)Brigitte - you get The Prize - for your recommendation to "Make your own" out of plywood.  Richard - If you have your table saw and miter gauge set up to give you accurate 90º cuts, why not create a jig from plywood that will fit perfectly inside the assembled box (before you glue it up - test fit it)?  The jig should be 2 pieces of ply with a spacer block between them.  Size that spacer so that one of the ply pieces will lay flush with the bottom edges of the bottom of the box and the top ply piece will be close to even with the top edges of the top of the box.  Apperance-wise, (if the sides were all squares instead of rectangles) it will look like you now have a solid wood cube. (In your case it will be a rectangular box.)  Now you can glue he 4 sides together, insert the Jig into the inside of the box frame, and clamp it.  The jig will square up all 4 corners - all at once - you won't need 4 clamps.The key to this is making sure your table saw & miter gauge set to 90º yield a 90º cut.Best of  luck!  (I know - you Brits don't need "luck" you have "Skill"!  )Mac-Original Message-
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Jun 23, 2020 4:07 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Box making

Here you go Richard https://www.amazon.co.uk/TONGXU-Position-Accessory-Auxiliary-Woodworking/dp/B07VMKZ65N/ref=pd_sbs_60_3/261-2781080-9222905?_encoding=UTF8_rd_i=B07VMKZ65N_rd_r=c3cefc80-fb5b-4fa1-9644-613897b30d4d_rd_w=RjgiZ_rd_wg=aYaGT_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078_rd_r=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC=1=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC a bit more reenable price  I wouldn’t pay that much  either  and you get 4  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard EllisSent: Tuesday, 23 June 2020 5:11 PMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Box making Mac. & RogerI have just been onto the woodworkers workshop To have a look at the clamping squares. I,, like Roger,, have been selling  and buying all sorts of thing from land to lathe parts. But buying is where the profit is if you use your brains. To buy squares at £64.95  must think I am stupid. On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 8:15:21 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:Richard, I would do the same as Bill.  My SawStop, for all practical purposes, is "Dead On" at making 90º cuts.I do not have confidence in the precision capability of the LOM to attempt to perfectly "square" a piece of wood on it.  The LOM is great for a lot - but not to establish perfect 90º angles four times to create a cube. (backlash and just the slight "slop"in the rail tracking)  If somewhere between 88 and 92 degrees was "ok" then I might try the LOM. I suggest you contact a GREAT American precision manufacturer - Woodpeckers - and buy a few of their "Clamping Squares"  (Sorry, Roger, they do not make cheese.) They will square up whatever it is you want squared up.  There are a variety of ways you can employ them to accomplish that. Be well - and do good.Mac-Original Message----- From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au Sent: Jun 22, 2020 1:58 PM To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Box making I would do it on the spindle with the indexing gear using a square off the rails to check it. But I’m guessing I usually square all  my stock on the table saw. BillFrom: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard EllisSent: Tuesday, 23 June 2020 2:19 AMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>Subject: Box making I am making some small boxes 4x8 inch 4 inch deep. I have done all the box joints using 1/2 inc cutter, Four turns with the handle worked well.Now glue up --I have block of wood 3 1/2 inch but not quite square. The question is how to make it square on the Legacy---45 180 90 or planing on the table, Table will get two sides o.k. but how about the others. The block is for clamping, one corner off for glue run out.Richard




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Re: Box making

2020-06-23 Thread Richard Ellis 
Hi
 This is the second go at replying to your post Re: plywood  Good idea will 
give it a go next time. By the way are you in the U.K. ??

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 9:54:45 AM UTC+1, Gavin wrote:
>
> Morning people,
> Surely you could make your own clamping squares like these out of thick 
> plywood?
> Legacy Widow
>
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 09:08, > wrote:
>
>> Here you go Richard 
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/TONGXU-Position-Accessory-Auxiliary-Woodworking/dp/B07VMKZ65N/ref=pd_sbs_60_3/261-2781080-9222905?_encoding=UTF8_rd_i=B07VMKZ65N_rd_r=c3cefc80-fb5b-4fa1-9644-613897b30d4d_rd_w=RjgiZ_rd_wg=aYaGT_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078_rd_r=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC=1=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC
>>
>>  
>>
>> a bit more reenable price  I wouldn’t pay that much  either  and you get 
>> 4 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *Richard 
>> Ellis
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 5:11 PM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > >
>> *Subject:* Re: Box making
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>> Mac. & Roger
>>
>> I have just been onto the woodworkers workshop To have a look at the 
>> clamping squares. I,, like Roger,, have been selling  and buying all sorts 
>> of thing from land to lathe parts. But buying is where the profit is if you 
>> use your brains. To buy squares at £64.95  must think I am stupid. 
>> On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 8:15:21 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
>>
>> Richard,
>>
>>  
>>
>> I would do the same as Bill.  My SawStop, for all practical purposes, is 
>> "Dead On" at making 90º cuts.
>>
>> I do not have confidence in the precision capability of the LOM to 
>> attempt to perfectly "square" a piece of wood on it.  The LOM is great for 
>> a lot - but not to establish perfect 90º angles four times to create a 
>> cube. (backlash and just the slight "slop"in the rail tracking)  If 
>> somewhere between 88 and 92 degrees was "ok" then I might try the LOM.
>>
>>  
>>
>> I suggest you contact a GREAT American precision manufacturer - 
>> Woodpeckers - and buy a few of their "Clamping Squares" 
>> <https://www.woodpeck.com/clamping-squares-plus.html>  
>>
>> (Sorry, Roger, they do not make cheese.)
>>
>>  
>>
>> They will square up whatever it is you want squared up.  There are a 
>> variety of ways you can employ them to accomplish that.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Be well - and do good.
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
>> Sent: Jun 22, 2020 1:58 PM 
>> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Box making 
>>
>> I would do it on the spindle with the indexing gear using a square off 
>> the rails to check it.
>>
>>  
>>
>> But I’m guessing I usually square all  my stock on the table saw.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>> --
>> --
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 2:19 AM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> *Subject:* Box making
>>
>>  
>>
>> I am making some small boxes 4x8 inch 4 inch deep. I have done all the 
>> box joints using 1/2 inc cutter, Four turns with the handle worked well.
>>
>> Now glue up --I have block of wood 3 1/2 inch but not quite 
>> square. The question is how to make it square on the Legacy---45 180 90 or 
>> planing on the table, Table will get two sides o.k. but how about the 
>> others. The block is for clamping, one corner off for glue run out.
>>
>> Richard
>>
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Re: Box making

2020-06-23 Thread Richard Ellis 
Mike & Bill
I had a go with a block of softwood .The dog system is a good idea . 
However owing to the width of the block and the vibrations of the planing 
cutter the screws in the dogs allowed the block to move. Hence, I finished 
up with a semi-round block. I resorted to my accurate band saw and got two 
out of the sides correct. That's all I need for this glue job.As it has 
been said ,,for some jobs ,accuracy is not for the Legacy!!
Roger
 cheese Stilton with a bit of vinegar is my preferred cheese 
Regards
Richard

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 9:54:45 AM UTC+1, Gavin wrote:
>
> Morning people,
> Surely you could make your own clamping squares like these out of thick 
> plywood?
> Legacy Widow
>
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 09:08, > wrote:
>
>> Here you go Richard 
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/TONGXU-Position-Accessory-Auxiliary-Woodworking/dp/B07VMKZ65N/ref=pd_sbs_60_3/261-2781080-9222905?_encoding=UTF8_rd_i=B07VMKZ65N_rd_r=c3cefc80-fb5b-4fa1-9644-613897b30d4d_rd_w=RjgiZ_rd_wg=aYaGT_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078_rd_r=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC=1=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC
>>
>>  
>>
>> a bit more reenable price  I wouldn’t pay that much  either  and you get 
>> 4 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *Richard 
>> Ellis
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 5:11 PM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > >
>> *Subject:* Re: Box making
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>> Mac. & Roger
>>
>> I have just been onto the woodworkers workshop To have a look at the 
>> clamping squares. I,, like Roger,, have been selling  and buying all sorts 
>> of thing from land to lathe parts. But buying is where the profit is if you 
>> use your brains. To buy squares at £64.95  must think I am stupid. 
>> On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 8:15:21 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
>>
>> Richard,
>>
>>  
>>
>> I would do the same as Bill.  My SawStop, for all practical purposes, is 
>> "Dead On" at making 90º cuts.
>>
>> I do not have confidence in the precision capability of the LOM to 
>> attempt to perfectly "square" a piece of wood on it.  The LOM is great for 
>> a lot - but not to establish perfect 90º angles four times to create a 
>> cube. (backlash and just the slight "slop"in the rail tracking)  If 
>> somewhere between 88 and 92 degrees was "ok" then I might try the LOM.
>>
>>  
>>
>> I suggest you contact a GREAT American precision manufacturer - 
>> Woodpeckers - and buy a few of their "Clamping Squares" 
>> <https://www.woodpeck.com/clamping-squares-plus.html>  
>>
>> (Sorry, Roger, they do not make cheese.)
>>
>>  
>>
>> They will square up whatever it is you want squared up.  There are a 
>> variety of ways you can employ them to accomplish that.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Be well - and do good.
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
>> Sent: Jun 22, 2020 1:58 PM 
>> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Box making 
>>
>> I would do it on the spindle with the indexing gear using a square off 
>> the rails to check it.
>>
>>  
>>
>> But I’m guessing I usually square all  my stock on the table saw.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>> --
>> --
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 2:19 AM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> *Subject:* Box making
>>
>>  
>>
>> I am making some small boxes 4x8 inch 4 inch deep. I have done all the 
>> box joints using 1/2 inc cutter, Four turns with the handle worked well.
>>
>> Now glue up --I have block of wood 3 1/2 inch but not quite 
>> square. The question is how to make it square on the Legacy---45 180 90 or 
>> planing on the table, Table will get two sides o.k. but how about the 
>> others. The block is for clamping, one corner off for glue run out.
>>
>> Richard
>>
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Re: Box making

2020-06-23 Thread Brigitte Graham 
Morning people,
Surely you could make your own clamping squares like these out of thick
plywood?
Legacy Widow

On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 09:08,  wrote:

> Here you go Richard
>
>
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/TONGXU-Position-Accessory-Auxiliary-Woodworking/dp/B07VMKZ65N/ref=pd_sbs_60_3/261-2781080-9222905?_encoding=UTF8_rd_i=B07VMKZ65N_rd_r=c3cefc80-fb5b-4fa1-9644-613897b30d4d_rd_w=RjgiZ_rd_wg=aYaGT_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078_rd_r=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC=1=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC
>
>
>
> a bit more reenable price  I wouldn’t pay that much  either  and you get 4
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 5:11 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: Box making
>
>
>
>
> Mac. & Roger
>
> I have just been onto the woodworkers workshop To have a look at the
> clamping squares. I,, like Roger,, have been selling  and buying all sorts
> of thing from land to lathe parts. But buying is where the profit is if you
> use your brains. To buy squares at £64.95  must think I am stupid.
> On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 8:15:21 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
>
>
> I would do the same as Bill.  My SawStop, for all practical purposes, is
> "Dead On" at making 90º cuts.
>
> I do not have confidence in the precision capability of the LOM to attempt
> to perfectly "square" a piece of wood on it.  The LOM is great for a lot -
> but not to establish perfect 90º angles four times to create a cube.
> (backlash and just the slight "slop"in the rail tracking)  If somewhere
> between 88 and 92 degrees was "ok" then I might try the LOM.
>
>
>
> I suggest you contact a GREAT American precision manufacturer -
> Woodpeckers - and buy a few of their "Clamping Squares"
> <https://www.woodpeck.com/clamping-squares-plus.html>
>
> (Sorry, Roger, they do not make cheese.)
>
>
>
> They will square up whatever it is you want squared up.  There are a
> variety of ways you can employ them to accomplish that.
>
>
>
> Be well - and do good.
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Jun 22, 2020 1:58 PM
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Box making
>
> I would do it on the spindle with the indexing gear using a square off the
> rails to check it.
>
>
>
> But I’m guessing I usually square all  my stock on the table saw.
>
>
>
> Bill
> ------
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 2:19 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Box making
>
>
>
> I am making some small boxes 4x8 inch 4 inch deep. I have done all the box
> joints using 1/2 inc cutter, Four turns with the handle worked well.
>
> Now glue up --I have block of wood 3 1/2 inch but not quite
> square. The question is how to make it square on the Legacy---45 180 90 or
> planing on the table, Table will get two sides o.k. but how about the
> others. The block is for clamping, one corner off for glue run out.
>
> Richard
>
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RE: Box making

2020-06-23 Thread bulkeley 
Here you go Richard 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TONGXU-Position-Accessory-Auxiliary-Woodworking/dp/B07VMKZ65N/ref=pd_sbs_60_3/261-2781080-9222905?_encoding=UTF8
 
<https://www.amazon.co.uk/TONGXU-Position-Accessory-Auxiliary-Woodworking/dp/B07VMKZ65N/ref=pd_sbs_60_3/261-2781080-9222905?_encoding=UTF8_rd_i=B07VMKZ65N_rd_r=c3cefc80-fb5b-4fa1-9644-613897b30d4d_rd_w=RjgiZ_rd_wg=aYaGT_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078_rd_r=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC=1=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC>
 
_rd_i=B07VMKZ65N_rd_r=c3cefc80-fb5b-4fa1-9644-613897b30d4d_rd_w=RjgiZ_rd_wg=aYaGT_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078_rd_r=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC=1=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC

 

a bit more reenable price  I wouldn’t pay that much  either  and you get 4 

 

Bill

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 23 June 2020 5:11 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Box making

 


Mac. & Roger

I have just been onto the woodworkers workshop To have a look at the clamping 
squares. I,, like Roger,, have been selling  and buying all sorts of thing from 
land to lathe parts. But buying is where the profit is if you use your brains. 
To buy squares at £64.95  must think I am stupid. 
On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 8:15:21 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:

Richard,

 

I would do the same as Bill.  My SawStop, for all practical purposes, is "Dead 
On" at making 90º cuts.

I do not have confidence in the precision capability of the LOM to attempt to 
perfectly "square" a piece of wood on it.  The LOM is great for a lot - but not 
to establish perfect 90º angles four times to create a cube. (backlash and just 
the slight "slop"in the rail tracking)  If somewhere between 88 and 92 degrees 
was "ok" then I might try the LOM.

 

I suggest you contact a GREAT American precision manufacturer - Woodpeckers - 
and buy a few of their  <https://www.woodpeck.com/clamping-squares-plus.html> 
"Clamping Squares"  

(Sorry, Roger, they do not make cheese.)

 

They will square up whatever it is you want squared up.  There are a variety of 
ways you can employ them to accomplish that.

 

Be well - and do good.

Mac


  _  


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au   
Sent: Jun 22, 2020 1:58 PM 
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com   
Subject: RE: Box making 

I would do it on the spindle with the indexing gear using a square off the 
rails to check it.

 

But I’m guessing I usually square all  my stock on the table saw.

 

Bill


  _  


  _  


From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com   
 > On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 23 June 2020 2:19 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills  >
Subject: Box making

 

I am making some small boxes 4x8 inch 4 inch deep. I have done all the box 
joints using 1/2 inc cutter, Four turns with the handle worked well.

Now glue up --I have block of wood 3 1/2 inch but not quite square. The 
question is how to make it square on the Legacy---45 180 90 or planing on the 
table, Table will get two sides o.k. but how about the others. The block is for 
clamping, one corner off for glue run out.

Richard

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Re: Box making

2020-06-23 Thread Bawdsey64 
Hi Richard and Mac
Here is an alternative that is priced for the "tool connoisseur" from the 
Jevons Tool Company of Kansas City http://www.jevonstoolco.com/ 
[http://www.jevonstoolco.com/]  Very nice product and I actually have some in 
my workshop in a couple of sizes. 
I could not remember the product name when I wrote my first email but I thought 
I must look it up so Richard and possibly Mac could save some pennies.
Cheers
Roger






From: Richard Ellis
Received: 23/06/2020 08:11:19 +01:00
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills

Mac. & Roger
I have just been onto the woodworkers workshop To have a look at the clamping 
squares. I,, like Roger,, have been selling  and buying all sorts of thing from 
land to lathe parts. But buying is where the profit is if you use your brains. 
To buy squares at £64.95  must think I am stupid.
On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 8:15:21 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
Richard,

I would do the same as Bill.  My SawStop, for all practical purposes, is "Dead 
On" at making 90º cuts.

I do not have confidence in the precision capability of the LOM to attempt to 
perfectly "square" a piece of wood on it.  The LOM is great for a lot - but not 
to establish perfect 90º angles four times to create a cube. (backlash and just 
the slight "slop"in the rail tracking)  If somewhere between 88 and 92 degrees 
was "ok" then I might try the LOM.

I suggest you contact a GREAT American precision manufacturer - Woodpeckers - 
and buy a few of their "Clamping Squares" 
[https://www.woodpeck.com/clamping-squares-plus.html]  

(Sorry, Roger, they do not make cheese.)

They will square up whatever it is you want squared up.  There are a variety of 
ways you can employ them to accomplish that.


Be well - and do good.

Mac

-Original Message-
From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
Sent: Jun 22, 2020 1:58 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Box making


I would do it on the spindle with the indexing gear using a square off the 
rails to check it.
 
But I’m guessing I usually square all  my stock on the table saw.
 
Bill
From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 23 June 2020 2:19 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Box making
 
I am making some small boxes 4x8 inch 4 inch deep. I have done all the box 
joints using 1/2 inc cutter, Four turns with the handle worked well.
Now glue up --I have block of wood 3 1/2 inch but not quite square. The 
question is how to make it square on the Legacy---45 180 90 or planing on the 
table, Table will get two sides o.k. but how about the others. The block is for 
clamping, one corner off for glue run out.
Richard
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Re: Box making

2020-06-23 Thread Bawdsey64 

Hi Richard
It is like I said last week, people will pay what it is worth to them and in 
this case to you it is not worth it.  To be honest I would not pay that because 
I would be wasting my daughter's inheritance and she would not want that!
I think I will start a new business and start selling cheese to the USA, anyone 
for some Stinking Bishop?
Cheers
Roger





From: Richard Ellis
Received: 23/06/2020 08:11:19 +01:00
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills

Mac. & Roger
I have just been onto the woodworkers workshop To have a look at the clamping 
squares. I,, like Roger,, have been selling  and buying all sorts of thing from 
land to lathe parts. But buying is where the profit is if you use your brains. 
To buy squares at £64.95  must think I am stupid.
On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 8:15:21 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
Richard,

I would do the same as Bill.  My SawStop, for all practical purposes, is "Dead 
On" at making 90º cuts.

I do not have confidence in the precision capability of the LOM to attempt to 
perfectly "square" a piece of wood on it.  The LOM is great for a lot - but not 
to establish perfect 90º angles four times to create a cube. (backlash and just 
the slight "slop"in the rail tracking)  If somewhere between 88 and 92 degrees 
was "ok" then I might try the LOM.

I suggest you contact a GREAT American precision manufacturer - Woodpeckers - 
and buy a few of their "Clamping Squares" 
[https://www.woodpeck.com/clamping-squares-plus.html]  

(Sorry, Roger, they do not make cheese.)

They will square up whatever it is you want squared up.  There are a variety of 
ways you can employ them to accomplish that.


Be well - and do good.

Mac

-Original Message-
From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
Sent: Jun 22, 2020 1:58 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Box making


I would do it on the spindle with the indexing gear using a square off the 
rails to check it.
 
But I’m guessing I usually square all  my stock on the table saw.
 
Bill
From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 23 June 2020 2:19 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Box making
 
I am making some small boxes 4x8 inch 4 inch deep. I have done all the box 
joints using 1/2 inc cutter, Four turns with the handle worked well.
Now glue up --I have block of wood 3 1/2 inch but not quite square. The 
question is how to make it square on the Legacy---45 180 90 or planing on the 
table, Table will get two sides o.k. but how about the others. The block is for 
clamping, one corner off for glue run out.
Richard
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Re: Box making

2020-06-23 Thread Richard Ellis 

Mac. & Roger
I have just been onto the woodworkers workshop To have a look at the 
clamping squares. I,, like Roger,, have been selling  and buying all sorts 
of thing from land to lathe parts. But buying is where the profit is if you 
use your brains. To buy squares at £64.95  must think I am stupid. 
On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 8:15:21 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
> I would do the same as Bill.  My SawStop, for all practical purposes, is 
> "Dead On" at making 90º cuts.
> I do not have confidence in the precision capability of the LOM to attempt 
> to perfectly "square" a piece of wood on it.  The LOM is great for a lot - 
> but not to establish perfect 90º angles four times to create a cube. 
> (backlash and just the slight "slop"in the rail tracking)  If somewhere 
> between 88 and 92 degrees was "ok" then I might try the LOM.
>
> I suggest you contact a GREAT American precision manufacturer - 
> Woodpeckers - and buy a few of their "Clamping Squares" 
> <https://www.woodpeck.com/clamping-squares-plus.html>  
> (Sorry, Roger, they do not make cheese.)
>
> They will square up whatever it is you want squared up.  There are a 
> variety of ways you can employ them to accomplish that.
>
> Be well - and do good.
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au  
> Sent: Jun 22, 2020 1:58 PM 
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: RE: Box making 
>
> I would do it on the spindle with the indexing gear using a square off the 
> rails to check it.
>
>  
>
> But I’m guessing I usually square all  my stock on the table saw.
>
>  
>
> Bill
> --
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *Richard 
> Ellis
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 2:19 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills  >
> *Subject:* Box making
>
>  
>
> I am making some small boxes 4x8 inch 4 inch deep. I have done all the box 
> joints using 1/2 inc cutter, Four turns with the handle worked well.
>
> Now glue up --I have block of wood 3 1/2 inch but not quite 
> square. The question is how to make it square on the Legacy---45 180 90 or 
> planing on the table, Table will get two sides o.k. but how about the 
> others. The block is for clamping, one corner off for glue run out.
>
> Richard
>
>

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RE: Box making

2020-06-22 Thread bulkeley 
The dogs? You mean Index Hubs right ? didn’t think of that right under my nose 
too 

 

Bill

 

 

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 On Behalf Of Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
Sent: Tuesday, 23 June 2020 5:25 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Box making

 

Lock the shaft in place and use the dogs.  Just disengage, rotate 90º , then 
secure with the tailstock pressure, cut-repeat

On 6/22/2020 11:18 AM, Richard Ellis wrote:

I am making some small boxes 4x8 inch 4 inch deep. I have done all the box 
joints using 1/2 inc cutter, Four turns with the handle worked well. 

Now glue up --I have block of wood 3 1/2 inch but not quite square. The 
question is how to make it square on the Legacy---45 180 90 or planing on the 
table, Table will get two sides o.k. but how about the others. The block is for 
clamping, one corner off for glue run out.

Richard

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RE: Box making

2020-06-22 Thread Bawdsey64 
Thanks for recommending Woodpeckers products Mac, yet another great 
product that I brought into the UK and which the company Wood Workers Workshop 
Ltd. still sell here in the UK even though I sold out seven years ago. I may 
even have some in one of my tool boxes.
Shame about the cheese though!
Cheers
Roger






From: M.W.Foscue
Received: 22/06/2020 20:15:19 +01:00
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Richard,

I would do the same as Bill.  My SawStop, for all practical purposes, is "Dead 
On" at making 90º cuts.

I do not have confidence in the precision capability of the LOM to attempt to 
perfectly "square" a piece of wood on it.  The LOM is great for a lot - but not 
to establish perfect 90º angles four times to create a cube. (backlash and just 
the slight "slop"in the rail tracking)  If somewhere between 88 and 92 degrees 
was "ok" then I might try the LOM.

I suggest you contact a GREAT American precision manufacturer - Woodpeckers - 
and buy a few of their "Clamping Squares" 
[https://www.woodpeck.com/clamping-squares-plus.html]  

(Sorry, Roger, they do not make cheese.)

They will square up whatever it is you want squared up.  There are a variety of 
ways you can employ them to accomplish that.


Be well - and do good.

Mac

-Original Message-
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Jun 22, 2020 1:58 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Box making


I would do it on the spindle with the indexing gear using a square off the 
rails to check it.
 
But I’m guessing I usually square all  my stock on the table saw.
 
Bill
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 23 June 2020 2:19 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Box making
 
I am making some small boxes 4x8 inch 4 inch deep. I have done all the box 
joints using 1/2 inc cutter, Four turns with the handle worked well.
Now glue up --I have block of wood 3 1/2 inch but not quite square. The 
question is how to make it square on the Legacy---45 180 90 or planing on the 
table, Table will get two sides o.k. but how about the others. The block is for 
clamping, one corner off for glue run out.
Richard
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Re: Box making

2020-06-22 Thread Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
Lock the shaft in place and use the dogs.  Just disengage, rotate 90º , 
then secure with the tailstock pressure, cut-repeat


On 6/22/2020 11:18 AM, Richard Ellis wrote:
I am making some small boxes 4x8 inch 4 inch deep. I have done all the 
box joints using 1/2 inc cutter, Four turns with the handle worked well.
Now glue up --I have block of wood 3 1/2 inch but not quite 
square. The question is how to make it square on the Legacy---45 180 
90 or planing on the table, Table will get two sides o.k. but how 
about the others. The block is for clamping, one corner off for glue 
run out.

Richard
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RE: Box making

2020-06-22 Thread M.W.Foscue 
Richard,I would do the same as Bill.  My SawStop, for all practical purposes, is "Dead On" at making 90º cuts.I do not have confidence in the precision capability of the LOM to attempt to perfectly "square" a piece of wood on it.  The LOM is great for a lot - but not to establish perfect 90º angles four times to create a cube. (backlash and just the slight "slop"in the rail tracking)  If somewhere between 88 and 92 degrees was "ok" then I might try the LOM.I suggest you contact a GREAT American precision manufacturer - Woodpeckers - and buy a few of their "Clamping Squares"  (Sorry, Roger, they do not make cheese.)They will square up whatever it is you want squared up.  There are a variety of ways you can employ them to accomplish that.Be well - and do good.Mac-Original Message-
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To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Box making

I would do it on the spindle with the indexing gear using a square off the rails to check it. But I’m guessing I usually square all  my stock on the table saw. BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard EllisSent: Tuesday, 23 June 2020 2:19 AMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Box making I am making some small boxes 4x8 inch 4 inch deep. I have done all the box joints using 1/2 inc cutter, Four turns with the handle worked well.Now glue up --I have block of wood 3 1/2 inch but not quite square. The question is how to make it square on the Legacy---45 180 90 or planing on the table, Table will get two sides o.k. but how about the others. The block is for clamping, one corner off for glue run out.Richard




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RE: Box making

2020-06-22 Thread bulkeley 
I would do it on the spindle with the indexing gear using a square off the 
rails to check it.

 

But I’m guessing I usually square all  my stock on the table saw.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 23 June 2020 2:19 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Box making

 

I am making some small boxes 4x8 inch 4 inch deep. I have done all the box 
joints using 1/2 inc cutter, Four turns with the handle worked well.

Now glue up --I have block of wood 3 1/2 inch but not quite square. The 
question is how to make it square on the Legacy---45 180 90 or planing on the 
table, Table will get two sides o.k. but how about the others. The block is for 
clamping, one corner off for glue run out.

Richard

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Box making

2020-06-22 Thread Richard Ellis 
I am making some small boxes 4x8 inch 4 inch deep. I have done all the box 
joints using 1/2 inc cutter, Four turns with the handle worked well.
Now glue up --I have block of wood 3 1/2 inch but not quite square. 
The question is how to make it square on the Legacy---45 180 90 or planing 
on the table, Table will get two sides o.k. but how about the others. The 
block is for clamping, one corner off for glue run out.
Richard

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Re: mail box post

2018-10-28 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Thank you Bill, good find.  This is one project that I did miss. YES this 
project could easily be done on the manual mills. ( the post, the sign part 
could be also done, but not as easily, as the post.)
C.A.G.


On Friday, October 26, 2018, 11:49:42 AM EDT, Bill Bulkeley 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6PD6FjVo3Y=push-u-sub_tag=7HRse0hLJzFcuNDH%3A6
 
  
 
here’sone from legacy I think we could defiantly do on our manual mills what do 
youall think?
 
  
 
Bill
 
  
 
  
 

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mail box post

2018-10-26 Thread Bill Bulkeley 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6PD6FjVo3Y
 =push-u-sub_tag=7HRse0hLJzFcuNDH%3A6

 

here's one from legacy I think we could defiantly do on our manual mills
what do you all think?

 

Bill

 

 

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Re: Box Challenge

2015-08-10 Thread CURTIS GEORGE 
Im boxed in at work, at this min. ;-P 

Thanks Tim for the reminder, I will get my box done soon. 
C.A.G. 

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Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 11:47:22 PM 
Subject: Box Challenge 

Whatever happened to the box challenge? I don't want excuses, I want pictures 
:-) 
-Tim 



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Box Challenge

2015-08-09 Thread Tim Krause 
Whatever happened to the box challenge?  I don't want excuses, I want pictures 
:-)

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