Re: Finger joints on the REVO

2024-01-21 Thread Tim Ziegler
Great videos, I am open to knew things so who knows what I may start
experimenting .
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 1:21 PM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Promised videos.  One shows process
> ,
> other shows results
> .
>
> DanK
>
>
> On Saturday, January 20, 2024 at 11:22:29 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:
>
>> Hey there Dan.
>>
>> Very nice. I am glad to hear your Revo is working out well. ;-)
>>
>> Keep up the good work.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Saturday, January 20, 2024 at 10:20:49 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Great job Dan keep up the amazing work.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 4:35 PM cdkr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Some frustrating dilly dallying around with cheap plywood finally
>>  motivated me to plane some more "junk wood" cherry and make
>>  all the drawers of solid wood. I'll not make that mistake again!
>> This cuts SO beautifully with no tear out, no backers, no scoring.
>> I'm working through making 25 little drawers to fit in the case,
>> 16 small ones and 9 larger ones. I'll have couple more pictures
>> and perhaps a video of this process. The accuracy is almost
>> unbelievable if one is careful.  These pictures show the assembled
>> case (less shelves) waiting for warm day to spray lacquer and a
>> little jig for squaring up the parts for pinning with 2 -23 ga pins to
>> hold a bundle of four.  The bundling makes quick work of cutting
>>  the fingers on the REVO using the ruler to verify index spacing of
>> turning the crank.
>>
>> [image: Capture1.PNG]  [image: Capture.PNG]
>> DanK
>>
>> On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 8:55:52 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Dan,
>>
>> Very interesting. That's how I envisioned it by what you explained.
>> great job and so glad it's working out like you hoped.
>> Keep me posted in how it goes. It appears to be more meticulous than my
>> Omni Jig however.
>> I still want to do it just so I can say I did. loll
>>
>> Keep up the great work Dan.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 4:02 PM cdkr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>> There was interest in how I used the REVO to cut finger joints.  So here
>> are some pictures:
>> [image: Capture.PNG]  [image: Capture4.PNG]
>> [image: Capture2.PNG]
>>
>> [image: Capture3.PNG]
>>
>> Using a 1/2" straight bit and the REVO frame ruler to verify positioning
>> of 4 crank turns for indexing, I cut two joints at a time with the bundles
>> offset 1/2".  Then turn them over and reset for the other two joints.  It
>> works out the best to pin the two sides together and the top and bottom
>> together in the orientation they will be assembled, then offset those
>> "bundles" under the clamps. I use the triangle marking system to keep track
>> of orientation.
>>
>> The first clamp setup was very awkward because of clearance issues.  So I
>> reworked the clamping idea using my shop clamp system started and expanded
>> from Shopsmith.system. The second picture shows it to be much handier.
>>
>> The other pictures show how accurate the results are.  I used no backer
>> board, but you can see that I did score a line where the bit exits.  Clean.
>>
>> Next up, a whole bunch of drawers.
>> DanK
>>
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RE: Finger joints on the REVO

2024-01-21 Thread bulkeley
Thank you Dan well done as far as I know you are the first to video box joints 
being made on the legacy 

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 6:21 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Finger joints on the REVO

 

Promised videos.  One shows process 
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SBT1Huob8SRbCPN5kPb1sb5xum2QHB1m/view?usp=sharing>
 , other shows results 
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h1NOpRHSAQ7-BU0b1BZNhDgJpEaOhZyH/view?usp=sharing>
 .  

DanK

 

 

On Saturday, January 20, 2024 at 11:22:29 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:

Hey there Dan.

 

Very nice. I am glad to hear your Revo is working out well. ;-)

 

Keep up the good work.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, January 20, 2024 at 10:20:49 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjz...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Great job Dan keep up the amazing work. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 4:35 PM cdkr...@gmail.com <mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com>  
mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Some frustrating dilly dallying around with cheap plywood finally

 motivated me to plane some more "junk wood" cherry and make

 all the drawers of solid wood. I'll not make that mistake again!  

This cuts SO beautifully with no tear out, no backers, no scoring.  

I'm working through making 25 little drawers to fit in the case, 

16 small ones and 9 larger ones. I'll have couple more pictures 

and perhaps a video of this process. The accuracy is almost 

unbelievable if one is careful.  These pictures show the assembled 

case (less shelves) waiting for warm day to spray lacquer and a 

little jig for squaring up the parts for pinning with 2 -23 ga pins to 

hold a bundle of four.  The bundling makes quick work of cutting

 the fingers on the REVO using the ruler to verify index spacing of 

turning the crank.

 

  
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/4422e9eb8f38b/Capture1.PNG?part=0.2&view=1>
 
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/4422e9eb8f38b/Capture.PNG?part=0.1&view=1>
 

DanK

 

On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 8:55:52 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:

Thanks Dan,

 

Very interesting. That's how I envisioned it by what you explained. 

great job and so glad it's working out like you hoped.

Keep me posted in how it goes. It appears to be more meticulous than my  Omni 
Jig however. 

I still want to do it just so I can say I did. loll

 

Keep up the great work Dan. 

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 4:02 PM cdkr...@gmail.com <mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com>  
mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com> > wrote:

There was interest in how I used the REVO to cut finger joints.  So here are 
some pictures:

  
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/d567ca40562/Capture.PNG?part=0.1&view=1>
 
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/d567ca40562/Capture4.PNG?part=0.3&view=1>
 

  
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/d567ca40562/Capture2.PNG?part=0.2&view=1>
 

 

  
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/d567ca40562/Capture3.PNG?part=0.4&view=1>
 

 

Using a 1/2" straight bit and the REVO frame ruler to verify positioning of 4 
crank turns for indexing, I cut two joints at a time with the bundles offset 
1/2".  Then turn them over and reset for the other two joints.  It works out 
the best to pin the two sides together and the top and bottom together in the 
orientation they will be assembled, then offset those "bundles" under the 
clamps. I use the triangle marking system to keep track of orientation. 

 

The first clamp setup was very awkward because of clearance issues.  So I 
reworked the clamping idea using my shop clamp system started and expanded from 
Shopsmith.system. The second picture shows it to be much handier.  

 

The other pictures show how accurate the results are.  I used no backer board, 
but you can see that I did score a line where the bit exits.  Clean.

 

Next up, a whole bunch of drawers.

DanK

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Re: Finger joints on the REVO

2024-01-21 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com
Promised videos.  One shows process 
,
 
other shows results 
.
  

DanK


On Saturday, January 20, 2024 at 11:22:29 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:

> Hey there Dan.
>
> Very nice. I am glad to hear your Revo is working out well. ;-)
>
> Keep up the good work.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, January 20, 2024 at 10:20:49 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Great job Dan keep up the amazing work. 
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 4:35 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
> Some frustrating dilly dallying around with cheap plywood finally
>  motivated me to plane some more "junk wood" cherry and make
>  all the drawers of solid wood. I'll not make that mistake again!  
> This cuts SO beautifully with no tear out, no backers, no scoring.  
> I'm working through making 25 little drawers to fit in the case, 
> 16 small ones and 9 larger ones. I'll have couple more pictures 
> and perhaps a video of this process. The accuracy is almost 
> unbelievable if one is careful.  These pictures show the assembled 
> case (less shelves) waiting for warm day to spray lacquer and a 
> little jig for squaring up the parts for pinning with 2 -23 ga pins to 
> hold a bundle of four.  The bundling makes quick work of cutting
>  the fingers on the REVO using the ruler to verify index spacing of 
> turning the crank.
>
> [image: Capture1.PNG]  [image: Capture.PNG]
> DanK
>
> On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 8:55:52 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
> Thanks Dan,
>
> Very interesting. That's how I envisioned it by what you explained. 
> great job and so glad it's working out like you hoped.
> Keep me posted in how it goes. It appears to be more meticulous than my  
> Omni Jig however. 
> I still want to do it just so I can say I did. loll
>
> Keep up the great work Dan. 
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 4:02 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
> There was interest in how I used the REVO to cut finger joints.  So here 
> are some pictures:
> [image: Capture.PNG]  [image: Capture4.PNG]
> [image: Capture2.PNG]
>
> [image: Capture3.PNG]
>
> Using a 1/2" straight bit and the REVO frame ruler to verify positioning 
> of 4 crank turns for indexing, I cut two joints at a time with the bundles 
> offset 1/2".  Then turn them over and reset for the other two joints.  It 
> works out the best to pin the two sides together and the top and bottom 
> together in the orientation they will be assembled, then offset those 
> "bundles" under the clamps. I use the triangle marking system to keep track 
> of orientation. 
>
> The first clamp setup was very awkward because of clearance issues.  So I 
> reworked the clamping idea using my shop clamp system started and expanded 
> from Shopsmith.system. The second picture shows it to be much handier.  
>
> The other pictures show how accurate the results are.  I used no backer 
> board, but you can see that I did score a line where the bit exits.  Clean.
>
> Next up, a whole bunch of drawers.
> DanK
>
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Re: Finger joints on the REVO

2024-01-20 Thread Tim Ziegler
great to have all the details.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 5:01 PM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Forgot to mention...those slots for the shelves are French dovetail
> (sliding dovetail) and the mail parts were hand planed with a
> Stanley 444 dovetail plane.  Fun.
>
> DanK
> On Saturday, January 20, 2024 at 5:35:53 PM UTC-5 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Some frustrating dilly dallying around with cheap plywood finally
>>  motivated me to plane some more "junk wood" cherry and make
>>  all the drawers of solid wood. I'll not make that mistake again!
>> This cuts SO beautifully with no tear out, no backers, no scoring.
>> I'm working through making 25 little drawers to fit in the case,
>> 16 small ones and 9 larger ones. I'll have couple more pictures
>> and perhaps a video of this process. The accuracy is almost
>> unbelievable if one is careful.  These pictures show the assembled
>> case (less shelves) waiting for warm day to spray lacquer and a
>> little jig for squaring up the parts for pinning with 2 -23 ga pins to
>> hold a bundle of four.  The bundling makes quick work of cutting
>>  the fingers on the REVO using the ruler to verify index spacing of
>> turning the crank.
>>
>> [image: Capture1.PNG]  [image: Capture.PNG]
>> DanK
>>
>> On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 8:55:52 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Dan,
>>>
>>> Very interesting. That's how I envisioned it by what you explained.
>>> great job and so glad it's working out like you hoped.
>>> Keep me posted in how it goes. It appears to be more meticulous than my
>>> Omni Jig however.
>>> I still want to do it just so I can say I did. loll
>>>
>>> Keep up the great work Dan.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 4:02 PM cdkr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 There was interest in how I used the REVO to cut finger joints.  So
 here are some pictures:
 [image: Capture.PNG]  [image: Capture4.PNG]
 [image: Capture2.PNG]

 [image: Capture3.PNG]

 Using a 1/2" straight bit and the REVO frame ruler to verify
 positioning of 4 crank turns for indexing, I cut two joints at a time with
 the bundles offset 1/2".  Then turn them over and reset for the other two
 joints.  It works out the best to pin the two sides together and the top
 and bottom together in the orientation they will be assembled, then offset
 those "bundles" under the clamps. I use the triangle marking system to keep
 track of orientation.

 The first clamp setup was very awkward because of clearance issues.  So
 I reworked the clamping idea using my shop clamp system started and
 expanded from Shopsmith.system. The second picture shows it to be much
 handier.

 The other pictures show how accurate the results are.  I used no backer
 board, but you can see that I did score a line where the bit exits.  Clean.

 Next up, a whole bunch of drawers.
 DanK

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Re: Finger joints on the REVO

2024-01-20 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com
Forgot to mention...those slots for the shelves are French dovetail 
(sliding dovetail) and the mail parts were hand planed with a 
Stanley 444 dovetail plane.  Fun.

DanK
On Saturday, January 20, 2024 at 5:35:53 PM UTC-5 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Some frustrating dilly dallying around with cheap plywood finally
>  motivated me to plane some more "junk wood" cherry and make
>  all the drawers of solid wood. I'll not make that mistake again!  
> This cuts SO beautifully with no tear out, no backers, no scoring.  
> I'm working through making 25 little drawers to fit in the case, 
> 16 small ones and 9 larger ones. I'll have couple more pictures 
> and perhaps a video of this process. The accuracy is almost 
> unbelievable if one is careful.  These pictures show the assembled 
> case (less shelves) waiting for warm day to spray lacquer and a 
> little jig for squaring up the parts for pinning with 2 -23 ga pins to 
> hold a bundle of four.  The bundling makes quick work of cutting
>  the fingers on the REVO using the ruler to verify index spacing of 
> turning the crank.
>
> [image: Capture1.PNG]  [image: Capture.PNG]
> DanK
>
> On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 8:55:52 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
>> Thanks Dan,
>>
>> Very interesting. That's how I envisioned it by what you explained. 
>> great job and so glad it's working out like you hoped.
>> Keep me posted in how it goes. It appears to be more meticulous than my  
>> Omni Jig however. 
>> I still want to do it just so I can say I did. loll
>>
>> Keep up the great work Dan. 
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 4:02 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There was interest in how I used the REVO to cut finger joints.  So here 
>>> are some pictures:
>>> [image: Capture.PNG]  [image: Capture4.PNG]
>>> [image: Capture2.PNG]
>>>
>>> [image: Capture3.PNG]
>>>
>>> Using a 1/2" straight bit and the REVO frame ruler to verify positioning 
>>> of 4 crank turns for indexing, I cut two joints at a time with the bundles 
>>> offset 1/2".  Then turn them over and reset for the other two joints.  It 
>>> works out the best to pin the two sides together and the top and bottom 
>>> together in the orientation they will be assembled, then offset those 
>>> "bundles" under the clamps. I use the triangle marking system to keep track 
>>> of orientation. 
>>>
>>> The first clamp setup was very awkward because of clearance issues.  So 
>>> I reworked the clamping idea using my shop clamp system started and 
>>> expanded from Shopsmith.system. The second picture shows it to be much 
>>> handier.  
>>>
>>> The other pictures show how accurate the results are.  I used no backer 
>>> board, but you can see that I did score a line where the bit exits.  Clean.
>>>
>>> Next up, a whole bunch of drawers.
>>> DanK
>>>
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