Re: Oval jig video

2024-01-28 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Looking forward to the continued progress in this whole concept.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 9:10 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> That's a relatively old technique of approximation.  I learned about that
> studying to do drafting of engineering drawings in the late 1950's.  I've
> seen that video posted on metal working sites I follow.  Didn't get me
> excited.  I'm chasing Curt's shiny object in my head thinking how to
> squash it flat.  I'm attracted to the wide array of options that the
> sun-planet
> gear arrangement offers, and the notion is compatible with the gear making
> equipment used to make driver, duplex, and index gearing for the LOM.
>
> For example, if the planet-sun gear chain opens up to include "idler" gears
> between, then the options for greater range of ratios and direction open.
> The notion of using a tiny chain system is doable, but limiting a bit, e.g.
> change of direction.  Curt's "toy", an ornamental chuck, is an advanced
> concept of this application.
>
> So how much gearing can be squashed into 3/8" vertical space under a
> table constrained to linear movement as it rotates on another platform?
> Any clock makers in the group?
>
> DanK
>
> On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 12:39:49 AM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:
>
>> Wow.
>>
>> Im not sure Im willing to throw away my jig yet ! ;-p
>>
>> That seems to be alot of work.  But Nice find, Bill.  Something like that
>> could
>> be handy one day.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 11:23:46 PM EST, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ok so for those who don’t want to make curts oval jig here is a way of
>> milling an oval with just a rotary table and lots of math
>>
>> Dan you will love this lol
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSEPDHyr1LY&ab_channel=JoePie its in
>> metal but it could be done in wood too
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 24, 2024 4:23 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Oval jig video
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello everyone.  (just got home form work.)
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you Dan for the kind words.
>>
>> The Funny/Ironic part about your video is that set-up was the first one
>> that I made for my Legacy (year back.) To make a long story short, I
>> worked, but not well, for me. I do believe that there is some commentary in
>> our archives, but that's ancient history now.
>>
>> I think my new version should work out well for me? But time will tell.
>>
>>
>>
>> As a Side note. I too have another Pet project, that will be working on
>> your design elements like the spirograph you mentioned. (but one thing at a
>> time. ) (ovals before patterns.) ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Have a good night.
>>
>> talk to you all more latter.
>>
>>
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 10:19:55 AM EST, cdkr...@gmail.com <
>> cdkr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm gonna stick my neck out here to repeat what I've said before
>>
>> at the risk of disturbing Curt.  Now don't get me wrong hereI love
>>
>> what Curt has done because without his realizing it yet, he has opened
>>
>> a door to a world of complex designs.  Think spirograph. And he has
>>
>> accomplished his goal of making elliptical picture frames.  And
>>
>> combinations thereof.  His effort is NOT in vain!  He has successfully
>>
>> navigated through a complex field and reduced it to a workable simplicity.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you are looking just to do something simple like make elliptical
>> picture
>>
>> frames or turn elliptical bowls or platters on a low profile trammel this
>>
>> can be done using principles from Archimedes trammel that does not
>>
>> need gears. The hard part is to envision how to translate that motion
>>
>> to a rotary table under a router.  I recognize that this video
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP2qxxoHCSI> shows exactly
>>
>> that, and I have confirmed through animated drawings that this principle
>>
>> will w

Re: Oval jig video

2024-01-28 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Good stuff for sure.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 10:23 PM  wrote:

> Ok so for those who don’t want to make curts oval jig here is a way of
> milling an oval with just a rotary table and lots of math
>
> Dan you will love this lol
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSEPDHyr1LY&ab_channel=JoePie its in
> metal but it could be done in wood too
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 24, 2024 4:23 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Oval jig video
>
>
>
> Hello everyone.  (just got home form work.)
>
>
>
> Thank you Dan for the kind words.
>
> The Funny/Ironic part about your video is that set-up was the first one
> that I made for my Legacy (year back.) To make a long story short, I
> worked, but not well, for me. I do believe that there is some commentary in
> our archives, but that's ancient history now.
>
> I think my new version should work out well for me? But time will tell.
>
>
>
> As a Side note. I too have another Pet project, that will be working on
> your design elements like the spirograph you mentioned. (but one thing at a
> time. ) (ovals before patterns.) ;-)
>
>
>
> Have a good night.
>
> talk to you all more latter.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 10:19:55 AM EST, cdkr...@gmail.com <
> cdkra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm gonna stick my neck out here to repeat what I've said before
>
> at the risk of disturbing Curt.  Now don't get me wrong hereI love
>
> what Curt has done because without his realizing it yet, he has opened
>
> a door to a world of complex designs.  Think spirograph. And he has
>
> accomplished his goal of making elliptical picture frames.  And
>
> combinations thereof.  His effort is NOT in vain!  He has successfully
>
> navigated through a complex field and reduced it to a workable simplicity.
>
>
>
> If you are looking just to do something simple like make elliptical
> picture
>
> frames or turn elliptical bowls or platters on a low profile trammel this
>
> can be done using principles from Archimedes trammel that does not
>
> need gears. The hard part is to envision how to translate that motion
>
> to a rotary table under a router.  I recognize that this video
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP2qxxoHCSI> shows exactly
>
> that, and I have confirmed through animated drawings that this principle
>
> will work on the LOM rotary table.
>
>
>
> Furthermore, the profile can be greatly reduced using T slots or dovetails
>
> for accurate sliding for a total height  under 2" using 3/4" material
> above
>
> the metal rotary table.
>
>
>
> The principle behind this is that there are two slots guiding captive
> sliders.
>
> Usually the two slots are permanently at right angles and stationary while
>
> the arm moves.  On the rotary table, the "slots" or sliders are at right
> angles
>
> and  rotate with the table around a stationary off center pin while the
> "arm"
>
> (router) is also stationary. Granted, it takes awhile to envision and some
>
> props help.  I'm in the middle of a project now but this is definitely on
> the
>
> table for the REVO.  And there is the ball turner project ahead of this,
> too!
>
>
>
> I'm really anxious to see the possibilities evolve through Curts efforts.
>
> Go Curt!  I'm cheering for ya!
>
> DanK
>
> On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 6:43:59 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
> Thanks Curt. not sure that would be me though lol.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 10:40 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4c_yFmaHso&t=9s Foster Geisman video.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX12OFJHQlg David Springett
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAoM-CRZBNY Elliptical Chuck project.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4YseqnjWjs Tim2Dl...' Oval Elliptical
> turning mill. (*NOTE: he used a bike chain and a gear to turn his
> machine.)*
>
>  h

Re: Oval jig video

2024-01-28 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com 
That's a relatively old technique of approximation.  I learned about that 
studying to do drafting of engineering drawings in the late 1950's.  I've 
seen that video posted on metal working sites I follow.  Didn't get me
excited.  I'm chasing Curt's shiny object in my head thinking how to 
squash it flat.  I'm attracted to the wide array of options that the 
sun-planet
gear arrangement offers, and the notion is compatible with the gear making
equipment used to make driver, duplex, and index gearing for the LOM. 

For example, if the planet-sun gear chain opens up to include "idler" gears
between, then the options for greater range of ratios and direction open. 
The notion of using a tiny chain system is doable, but limiting a bit, e.g.
change of direction.  Curt's "toy", an ornamental chuck, is an advanced
concept of this application. 

So how much gearing can be squashed into 3/8" vertical space under a
table constrained to linear movement as it rotates on another platform?
Any clock makers in the group?

DanK 

On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 12:39:49 AM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:

> Wow.
>
> Im not sure Im willing to throw away my jig yet ! ;-p
>
> That seems to be alot of work.  But Nice find, Bill.  Something like that 
> could 
> be handy one day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 11:23:46 PM EST,  
> wrote: 
>
>
> Ok so for those who don’t want to make curts oval jig here is a way of 
> milling an oval with just a rotary table and lots of math
>
> Dan you will love this lol
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSEPDHyr1LY&ab_channel=JoePie its in 
> metal but it could be done in wood too 
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 24, 2024 4:23 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Oval jig video
>
>  
>
> Hello everyone.  (just got home form work.)
>
>  
>
> Thank you Dan for the kind words.
>
> The Funny/Ironic part about your video is that set-up was the first one 
> that I made for my Legacy (year back.) To make a long story short, I 
> worked, but not well, for me. I do believe that there is some commentary in 
> our archives, but that's ancient history now.
>
> I think my new version should work out well for me? But time will tell.
>
>  
>
> As a Side note. I too have another Pet project, that will be working on 
> your design elements like the spirograph you mentioned. (but one thing at a 
> time. ) (ovals before patterns.) ;-)
>
>  
>
> Have a good night.
>
> talk to you all more latter.
>
>  
>
> C.A.G.
>
>  
>
> On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 10:19:55 AM EST, cdkr...@gmail.com <
> cdkr...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> I'm gonna stick my neck out here to repeat what I've said before 
>
> at the risk of disturbing Curt.  Now don't get me wrong hereI love 
>
> what Curt has done because without his realizing it yet, he has opened 
>
> a door to a world of complex designs.  Think spirograph. And he has 
>
> accomplished his goal of making elliptical picture frames.  And 
>
> combinations thereof.  His effort is NOT in vain!  He has successfully
>
> navigated through a complex field and reduced it to a workable simplicity.
>
>  
>
> If you are looking just to do something simple like make elliptical 
> picture 
>
> frames or turn elliptical bowls or platters on a low profile trammel this 
>
> can be done using principles from Archimedes trammel that does not 
>
> need gears. The hard part is to envision how to translate that motion 
>
> to a rotary table under a router.  I recognize that this video 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP2qxxoHCSI> shows exactly 
>
> that, and I have confirmed through animated drawings that this principle 
>
> will work on the LOM rotary table. 
>
>  
>
> Furthermore, the profile can be greatly reduced using T slots or dovetails 
>
> for accurate sliding for a total height  under 2" using 3/4" material 
> above 
>
> the metal rotary table.
>
>  
>
> The principle behind this is that there are two slots guiding captive 
> sliders.
>
> Usually the two slots are permanently at right angles and stationary while 
>
> the arm moves.  On the rotary table, the "slots" or sliders are at right 
> angles
>
> and  rotate with the table around a stationary off center pin while the 
> "arm" 
>
> (router) is also stationary. Granted, it takes awhile to envision and some 
>
>

Re: Oval jig video

2024-01-27 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Wow.
Im not sure Im willing to throw away my jig yet ! ;-p
That seems to be alot of work.  But Nice find, Bill.  Something like that could 
be handy one day.
C.A.G.
On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 11:23:46 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
Ok so for those who don’t want to make curts oval jig here is a way of milling 
an oval with just a rotary table and lots of math

Dan you will love this lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSEPDHyr1LY&ab_channel=JoePie its in metal but 
it could be done in wood too 

  

Bill

  

  

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 4:23 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Oval jig video

  

Hello everyone.  (just got home form work.)

  

Thank you Dan for the kind words.

The Funny/Ironic part about your video is that set-up was the first one that I 
made for my Legacy (year back.) To make a long story short, I worked, but not 
well, for me. I do believe that there is some commentary in our archives, but 
that's ancient history now.

I think my new version should work out well for me? But time will tell.

  

As a Side note. I too have another Pet project, that will be working on your 
design elements like the spirograph you mentioned. (but one thing at a time. ) 
(ovals before patterns.) ;-)

  

Have a good night.

talk to you all more latter.

  

C.A.G.

  

On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 10:19:55 AM EST, cdkr...@gmail.com 
 wrote: 

  

  

I'm gonna stick my neck out here to repeat what I've said before 

at the risk of disturbing Curt.  Now don't get me wrong hereI love 

what Curt has done because without his realizing it yet, he has opened 

a door to a world of complex designs.  Think spirograph. And he has 

accomplished his goal of making elliptical picture frames.  And 

combinations thereof.  His effort is NOT in vain!  He has successfully

navigated through a complex field and reduced it to a workable simplicity.

  

If you are looking just to do something simple like make elliptical picture 

frames or turn elliptical bowls or platters on a low profile trammel this 

can be done using principles from Archimedes trammel that does not 

need gears. The hard part is to envision how to translate that motion 

to a rotary table under a router.  I recognize that this video shows exactly 

that, and I have confirmed through animated drawings that this principle 

will work on the LOM rotary table. 

  

Furthermore, the profile can be greatly reduced using T slots or dovetails 

for accurate sliding for a total height  under 2" using 3/4" material above 

the metal rotary table.

  

The principle behind this is that there are two slots guiding captive sliders.

Usually the two slots are permanently at right angles and stationary while 

the arm moves.  On the rotary table, the "slots" or sliders are at right angles

and  rotate with the table around a stationary off center pin while the "arm" 

(router) is also stationary. Granted, it takes awhile to envision and some 

props help.  I'm in the middle of a project now but this is definitely on the 

table for the REVO.  And there is the ball turner project ahead of this, too!

  

I'm really anxious to see the possibilities evolve through Curts efforts. 

Go Curt!  I'm cheering for ya!

DanK

On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 6:43:59 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:


Thanks Curt. not sure that would be me though lol. 




Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 10:40 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4c_yFmaHso&t=9s Foster Geisman video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX12OFJHQlg David Springett

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAoM-CRZBNY Elliptical Chuck project.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4YseqnjWjs Tim2Dl...' Oval Elliptical turning 
mill. (NOTE: he used a bike chain and a gear to turn his machine.)

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjaBYsAlwGc  Device for turning Elliptical 
turning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSiD7lL8P_k  Planetary gear- elliptical ...

All of these video pointed in the right direction. But seeing the last two 
offered me a way to make it work on the Legacy.

  

Now that the problem has been solved, It's up to your guys to tweak it and make 
a better working version for yourselves. ;-) 

  

C.A.G.

  

  

  

On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 11:17:26 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote: 

  

  

HI Tim

  

Spending on this project??? (most of it was re-work from the trash bin.)

The Linear bearing (Amazon) were $38.00 .

The Alum. plate $7.00

  

That's it.

the concept came form a long time of studying.  

I have been trying to make this type of jig

RE: Oval jig video

2024-01-27 Thread bulkeley 
Ok so for those who don’t want to make curts oval jig here is a way of milling 
an oval with just a rotary table and lots of math

Dan you will love this lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSEPDHyr1LY 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSEPDHyr1LY&ab_channel=JoePie> 
&ab_channel=JoePie its in metal but it could be done in wood too 

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 4:23 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Oval jig video

 

Hello everyone.  (just got home form work.)

 

Thank you Dan for the kind words.

The Funny/Ironic part about your video is that set-up was the first one that I 
made for my Legacy (year back.) To make a long story short, I worked, but not 
well, for me. I do believe that there is some commentary in our archives, but 
that's ancient history now.

I think my new version should work out well for me? But time will tell.

 

As a Side note. I too have another Pet project, that will be working on your 
design elements like the spirograph you mentioned. (but one thing at a time. ) 
(ovals before patterns.) ;-)

 

Have a good night.

talk to you all more latter.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 10:19:55 AM EST, cdkr...@gmail.com 
<mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com>  mailto:cdkra...@gmail.com> > 
wrote: 

 

 

I'm gonna stick my neck out here to repeat what I've said before 

at the risk of disturbing Curt.  Now don't get me wrong hereI love 

what Curt has done because without his realizing it yet, he has opened 

a door to a world of complex designs.  Think spirograph. And he has 

accomplished his goal of making elliptical picture frames.  And 

combinations thereof.  His effort is NOT in vain!  He has successfully

navigated through a complex field and reduced it to a workable simplicity.

 

If you are looking just to do something simple like make elliptical picture 

frames or turn elliptical bowls or platters on a low profile trammel this 

can be done using principles from Archimedes trammel that does not 

need gears. The hard part is to envision how to translate that motion 

to a rotary table under a router.  I recognize that this video 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP2qxxoHCSI>  shows exactly 

that, and I have confirmed through animated drawings that this principle 

will work on the LOM rotary table. 

 

Furthermore, the profile can be greatly reduced using T slots or dovetails 

for accurate sliding for a total height  under 2" using 3/4" material above 

the metal rotary table.

 

The principle behind this is that there are two slots guiding captive sliders.

Usually the two slots are permanently at right angles and stationary while 

the arm moves.  On the rotary table, the "slots" or sliders are at right angles

and  rotate with the table around a stationary off center pin while the "arm" 

(router) is also stationary. Granted, it takes awhile to envision and some 

props help.  I'm in the middle of a project now but this is definitely on the 

table for the REVO.  And there is the ball turner project ahead of this, too!

 

I'm really anxious to see the possibilities evolve through Curts efforts. 

Go Curt!  I'm cheering for ya!

DanK

On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 6:43:59 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:

Thanks Curt. not sure that would be me though lol. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 10:40 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4c_yFmaHso 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4c_yFmaHso&t=9s> &t=9s Foster Geisman video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX12OFJHQlg David Springett

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAoM-CRZBNY Elliptical Chuck project.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4YseqnjWjs Tim2Dl...' Oval Elliptical turning 
mill. (NOTE: he used a bike chain and a gear to turn his machine.)

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjaBYsAlwGc  Device for turning Elliptical 
turning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSiD7lL8P_k  Planetary gear- elliptical ...

All of these video pointed in the right direction. But seeing the last two 
offered me a way to make it work on the Legacy.

 

Now that the problem has been solved, It's up to your guys to tweak it and make 
a better working version for yourselves. ;-) 

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 11:17:26 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > wrote: 

 

 

HI Tim

 

Spending on this project??? (most of it was re-work from the trash bin.)

The Linear bearing (Amazon) were $38.00 .

The Alum. plate $7.00

 

That's it.

the

Re: Oval jig video

2024-01-23 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
g done. And 
if someone from the group would like to try, I will do my best to talk them 
through the process.Here are a few more photo's.
C.A.G.On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:40:53 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Hey Curt, very cool I will have to watch that a few times to get a better 
handle on it for sure. I am very impressed with the concept. About how much did 
you end up spending on this project?I can see this becoming like Bill said, one 
of the best additions  to our LOM's for sure. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 2:58 PM  wrote:


This is the best legacy mod since the wave attachment I love it, the 
possibilities are endless fantastic curt I’m going to build one

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 4:36 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: Oval jig video

 

Hello Everyone.

Thanks Bill for posting this.

I hope everyone enjoys the video?

the oval jig is both complex and simple at the same time.

 

The Planetary gear concept is what makes this jig work.

The "Sun" gear is stationary (it dose NOT move when the table moves.) The 
planate gear moves around the Sun. This planate gear has a adjustable pivot 
point which makes the table move as the gears rotate. 

 

I Hope you all enjoy this video, Hopefully you all will try to make something 
like this for your self's.   

Please let me know what you think?  

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR8ZwCHfv6Q

 

C.A.G.

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Re: Oval jig video

2024-01-23 Thread Tim Ziegler 
hing just fell together for me, in my head, then it was just a
>>> short time to gather all the parts.
>>> I made the wooden version a week ago, and then just a few days to
>>> re-work the gear linkage, to
>>> come up with what I showed in the video.
>>>
>>> I know that Bill or anyone in the group could make the very same thing
>>> with out much problems.
>>> The hard part was understand, and working with in my limits of using the
>>> Legacy.
>>>
>>> Today I feel that there, could be better ways to get the same thing
>>> done. And if someone from the group would like to try, I will do my best to
>>> talk them through the process.
>>> Here are a few more photo's.
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:40:53 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
>>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Curt, very cool I will have to watch that a few times to get a
>>> better handle on it for sure.
>>> I am very impressed with the concept. About how much did you end up
>>> spending on this project?
>>> I can see this becoming like Bill said, one of the best additions  to
>>> our LOM's for sure.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 2:58 PM  wrote:
>>>
>>> This is the best legacy mod since the wave attachment I love it, the
>>> possibilities are endless fantastic curt I’m going to build one
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 4:36 AM
>>> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
>>> *Subject:* Oval jig video
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Everyone.
>>>
>>> Thanks Bill for posting this.
>>>
>>> I hope everyone enjoys the video?
>>>
>>> the oval jig is both complex and simple at the same time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Planetary gear concept is what makes this jig work.
>>>
>>> The "Sun" gear is stationary (it dose NOT move when the table moves.)
>>> The planate gear moves around the Sun. This planate gear has a adjustable
>>> pivot point which makes the table move as the gears rotate.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I Hope you all enjoy this video, Hopefully you all will try to make
>>> something like this for your self's.
>>>
>>> Please let me know what you think?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR8ZwCHfv6Q
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
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Re: Oval jig video

2024-01-23 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com 
 talk 
>> them through the process.
>> Here are a few more photo's.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:40:53 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> Hey Curt, very cool I will have to watch that a few times to get a better 
>> handle on it for sure. 
>> I am very impressed with the concept. About how much did you end up 
>> spending on this project?
>> I can see this becoming like Bill said, one of the best additions  to our 
>> LOM's for sure. 
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 2:58 PM  wrote:
>>
>> This is the best legacy mod since the wave attachment I love it, the 
>> possibilities are endless fantastic curt I’m going to build one
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 4:36 AM
>> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
>> *Subject:* Oval jig video
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hello Everyone.
>>
>> Thanks Bill for posting this.
>>
>> I hope everyone enjoys the video?
>>
>> the oval jig is both complex and simple at the same time.
>>
>>  
>>
>> The Planetary gear concept is what makes this jig work.
>>
>> The "Sun" gear is stationary (it dose NOT move when the table moves.) The 
>> planate gear moves around the Sun. This planate gear has a adjustable pivot 
>> point which makes the table move as the gears rotate. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> I Hope you all enjoy this video, Hopefully you all will try to make 
>> something like this for your self's.   
>>
>> Please let me know what you think?  
>>
>>  
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR8ZwCHfv6Q
>>
>>  
>>
>> C.A.G.
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Re: Oval jig video

2024-01-23 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Thanks Curt. not sure that would be me though lol.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 10:40 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4c_yFmaHso&t=9s Foster Geisman video.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX12OFJHQlg David Springett
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAoM-CRZBNY Elliptical Chuck project.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4YseqnjWjs Tim2Dl...' Oval Elliptical
> turning mill. (*NOTE: he used a bike chain and a gear to turn his
> machine.)*
>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjaBYsAlwGc  Device for turning
> Elliptical turning.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSiD7lL8P_k  Planetary gear- elliptical
> ...
> All of these video pointed in the right direction. But seeing the last two
> offered me a way to make it work on the Legacy.
>
> Now that the problem has been solved, It's up to your guys to tweak it and
> make a better working version for yourselves. ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 11:17:26 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
> HI Tim
>
> Spending on this project??? (most of it was re-work from the trash bin.)
> The Linear bearing (Amazon) were $38.00 .
> The Alum. plate $7.00
>
> That's it.
> the concept came form a long time of studying.
> I have been trying to make this type of jig for appx. 6 yrs.
> I saw a video of Foster Geisman's Ornamental oval works, on You tube.
> I have tried at least 5 times to make an oval jig. (all worked but not
> well.) I just couldn't make this concept
> fit/work with the Legacy.
> I just saw a different view to get this jig made , while reading a paper
> on the Geometric chuck.
> (another Pet project of mine.)
> The hole thing just fell together for me, in my head, then it was just a
> short time to gather all the parts.
> I made the wooden version a week ago, and then just a few days to re-work
> the gear linkage, to
> come up with what I showed in the video.
>
> I know that Bill or anyone in the group could make the very same thing
> with out much problems.
> The hard part was understand, and working with in my limits of using the
> Legacy.
>
> Today I feel that there, could be better ways to get the same thing done.
> And if someone from the group would like to try, I will do my best to talk
> them through the process.
> Here are a few more photo's.
>
> C.A.G.
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:40:53 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Curt, very cool I will have to watch that a few times to get a better
> handle on it for sure.
> I am very impressed with the concept. About how much did you end up
> spending on this project?
> I can see this becoming like Bill said, one of the best additions  to our
> LOM's for sure.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 2:58 PM  wrote:
>
> This is the best legacy mod since the wave attachment I love it, the
> possibilities are endless fantastic curt I’m going to build one
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 4:36 AM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Oval jig video
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> Thanks Bill for posting this.
>
> I hope everyone enjoys the video?
>
> the oval jig is both complex and simple at the same time.
>
>
>
> The Planetary gear concept is what makes this jig work.
>
> The "Sun" gear is stationary (it dose NOT move when the table moves.) The
> planate gear moves around the Sun. This planate gear has a adjustable pivot
> point which makes the table move as the gears rotate.
>
>
>
> I Hope you all enjoy this video, Hopefully you all will try to make
> something like this for your self's.
>
> Please let me know what you think?
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR8ZwCHfv6Q
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: Oval jig video

2024-01-23 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Very good Curt and thanks for all the details and pix.


Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
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On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 10:17 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> HI Tim
>
> Spending on this project??? (most of it was re-work from the trash bin.)
> The Linear bearing (Amazon) were $38.00 .
> The Alum. plate $7.00
>
> That's it.
> the concept came form a long time of studying.
> I have been trying to make this type of jig for appx. 6 yrs.
> I saw a video of Foster Geisman's Ornamental oval works, on You tube.
> I have tried at least 5 times to make an oval jig. (all worked but not
> well.) I just couldn't make this concept
> fit/work with the Legacy.
> I just saw a different view to get this jig made , while reading a paper
> on the Geometric chuck.
> (another Pet project of mine.)
> The hole thing just fell together for me, in my head, then it was just a
> short time to gather all the parts.
> I made the wooden version a week ago, and then just a few days to re-work
> the gear linkage, to
> come up with what I showed in the video.
>
> I know that Bill or anyone in the group could make the very same thing
> with out much problems.
> The hard part was understand, and working with in my limits of using the
> Legacy.
>
> Today I feel that there, could be better ways to get the same thing done.
> And if someone from the group would like to try, I will do my best to talk
> them through the process.
> Here are a few more photo's.
>
> C.A.G.
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:40:53 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Curt, very cool I will have to watch that a few times to get a better
> handle on it for sure.
> I am very impressed with the concept. About how much did you end up
> spending on this project?
> I can see this becoming like Bill said, one of the best additions  to our
> LOM's for sure.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 2:58 PM  wrote:
>
> This is the best legacy mod since the wave attachment I love it, the
> possibilities are endless fantastic curt I’m going to build one
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 4:36 AM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Oval jig video
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> Thanks Bill for posting this.
>
> I hope everyone enjoys the video?
>
> the oval jig is both complex and simple at the same time.
>
>
>
> The Planetary gear concept is what makes this jig work.
>
> The "Sun" gear is stationary (it dose NOT move when the table moves.) The
> planate gear moves around the Sun. This planate gear has a adjustable pivot
> point which makes the table move as the gears rotate.
>
>
>
> I Hope you all enjoy this video, Hopefully you all will try to make
> something like this for your self's.
>
> Please let me know what you think?
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR8ZwCHfv6Q
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: Oval jig video

2024-01-22 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Good stuff Curt thanks
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
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On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 7:02 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> OK here are some new photo's of this Oval jig.
> 26 is the underside/bracket that keep the sun gear form moving.
>
> My table has a ford wheel bearing as its center. the hole in the mid is
> where the Vac. port hooks up, but in this
> case the rod for the Oval jig runs through it. as the table turns the Sun
> Gear will not move. the planet gear is mounted on the table, so as the
> table moves the planet gear moves around the sun.
> The Planetary gear has an adjustable linkage made form a door closer being
> thrown away as work.
> The Alum. gears were also a trash find, I have 6 gears? (if I can find
> them!) I drilled out the center and added
> a ball bearing set in the Planet gear and just added a bracket and the
> post for the Sun gear.
>
> talk to you more latter.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 06:09:00 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Can you take a pic of that some time to show me
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 9:58 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Oval jig video
>
>
>
> under the table I have a bracket that hooks up to the base. I do not have
> a photo of this. (YET)
>
> but the Sun Gear cannot move although the table dose. the planate gear is
> attached to the table, so the planate gear turns. (like our world dose as
> it moves around the sun.)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 05:43:58 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> So I see the shaft attached to the sun gear but how is the shaft attached
> to the base so it wont turn as the table rotates
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 8:52 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Oval jig video
>
>
>
> I am very happy to hear that Bill.
>
>
>
> For me the Trick was to make the Sun Gear, so it moves/dose not move, with
> the table turning.  As you can see in the photo, there is a ball bearing
> seat with a rod that runs through the table, the gear is pinned under the
> table so it will not move with the table as it turns.
>
>
>
> If there is anything that I can do to help, just ask.
>
>
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 03:58:17 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> This is the best legacy mod since the wave attachment I love it, the
> possibilities are endless fantastic curt I’m going to build one
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 4:36 AM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Oval jig video
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> Thanks Bill for posting this.
>
> I hope everyone enjoys the video?
>
> the oval jig is both complex and simple at the same time.
>
>
>
> The Planetary gear concept is what makes this jig work.
>
> The "Sun" gear is stationary (it dose NOT move when the table moves.) The
> planate gear moves around the Sun. This planate gear has a adjustable pivot
> point which makes the table move as the gears rotate.
>
>
>
> I Hope you all enjoy this video, Hopefully you all will try to make
> something like this for your self's.
>
> Please let me know what you think?
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR8ZwCHfv6Q
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: Oval jig video

2024-01-22 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Yeah I would n't mind seeing that too.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 5:08 PM  wrote:

> Can you take a pic of that some time to show me
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 9:58 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Oval jig video
>
>
>
> under the table I have a bracket that hooks up to the base. I do not have
> a photo of this. (YET)
>
> but the Sun Gear cannot move although the table dose. the planate gear is
> attached to the table, so the planate gear turns. (like our world dose as
> it moves around the sun.)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 05:43:58 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> So I see the shaft attached to the sun gear but how is the shaft attached
> to the base so it wont turn as the table rotates
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 8:52 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Oval jig video
>
>
>
> I am very happy to hear that Bill.
>
>
>
> For me the Trick was to make the Sun Gear, so it moves/dose not move, with
> the table turning.  As you can see in the photo, there is a ball bearing
> seat with a rod that runs through the table, the gear is pinned under the
> table so it will not move with the table as it turns.
>
>
>
> If there is anything that I can do to help, just ask.
>
>
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 03:58:17 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> This is the best legacy mod since the wave attachment I love it, the
> possibilities are endless fantastic curt I’m going to build one
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 4:36 AM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Oval jig video
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> Thanks Bill for posting this.
>
> I hope everyone enjoys the video?
>
> the oval jig is both complex and simple at the same time.
>
>
>
> The Planetary gear concept is what makes this jig work.
>
> The "Sun" gear is stationary (it dose NOT move when the table moves.) The
> planate gear moves around the Sun. This planate gear has a adjustable pivot
> point which makes the table move as the gears rotate.
>
>
>
> I Hope you all enjoy this video, Hopefully you all will try to make
> something like this for your self's.
>
> Please let me know what you think?
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR8ZwCHfv6Q
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: Oval jig video

2024-01-22 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Very cool.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 4:57 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> under the table I have a bracket that hooks up to the base. I do not have
> a photo of this. (YET)
> but the Sun Gear cannot move although the table dose. the planate gear is
> attached to the table, so the planate gear turns. (like our world dose as
> it moves around the sun.)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 05:43:58 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> So I see the shaft attached to the sun gear but how is the shaft attached
> to the base so it wont turn as the table rotates
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 8:52 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Oval jig video
>
>
>
> I am very happy to hear that Bill.
>
>
>
> For me the Trick was to make the Sun Gear, so it moves/dose not move, with
> the table turning.  As you can see in the photo, there is a ball bearing
> seat with a rod that runs through the table, the gear is pinned under the
> table so it will not move with the table as it turns.
>
>
>
> If there is anything that I can do to help, just ask.
>
>
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 03:58:17 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> This is the best legacy mod since the wave attachment I love it, the
> possibilities are endless fantastic curt I’m going to build one
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 4:36 AM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Oval jig video
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> Thanks Bill for posting this.
>
> I hope everyone enjoys the video?
>
> the oval jig is both complex and simple at the same time.
>
>
>
> The Planetary gear concept is what makes this jig work.
>
> The "Sun" gear is stationary (it dose NOT move when the table moves.) The
> planate gear moves around the Sun. This planate gear has a adjustable pivot
> point which makes the table move as the gears rotate.
>
>
>
> I Hope you all enjoy this video, Hopefully you all will try to make
> something like this for your self's.
>
> Please let me know what you think?
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR8ZwCHfv6Q
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: Oval jig video

2024-01-22 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Hey Curt, very cool I will have to watch that a few times to get a better
handle on it for sure.
I am very impressed with the concept. About how much did you end up
spending on this project?
I can see this becoming like Bill said, one of the best additions  to our
LOM's for sure.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 2:58 PM  wrote:

> This is the best legacy mod since the wave attachment I love it, the
> possibilities are endless fantastic curt I’m going to build one
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 4:36 AM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Oval jig video
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> Thanks Bill for posting this.
>
> I hope everyone enjoys the video?
>
> the oval jig is both complex and simple at the same time.
>
>
>
> The Planetary gear concept is what makes this jig work.
>
> The "Sun" gear is stationary (it dose NOT move when the table moves.) The
> planate gear moves around the Sun. This planate gear has a adjustable pivot
> point which makes the table move as the gears rotate.
>
>
>
> I Hope you all enjoy this video, Hopefully you all will try to make
> something like this for your self's.
>
> Please let me know what you think?
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR8ZwCHfv6Q
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
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RE: Oval jig video

2024-01-22 Thread bulkeley 
Can you take a pic of that some time to show me

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 9:58 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Oval jig video

 

under the table I have a bracket that hooks up to the base. I do not have a 
photo of this. (YET)

but the Sun Gear cannot move although the table dose. the planate gear is 
attached to the table, so the planate gear turns. (like our world dose as it 
moves around the sun.)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 05:43:58 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

So I see the shaft attached to the sun gear but how is the shaft attached to 
the base so it wont turn as the table rotates 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 8:52 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Oval jig video

 

I am very happy to hear that Bill.

 

For me the Trick was to make the Sun Gear, so it moves/dose not move, with the 
table turning.  As you can see in the photo, there is a ball bearing seat with 
a rod that runs through the table, the gear is pinned under the table so it 
will not move with the table as it turns.

 

If there is anything that I can do to help, just ask.

 

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 03:58:17 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

This is the best legacy mod since the wave attachment I love it, the 
possibilities are endless fantastic curt I’m going to build one

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 4:36 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Oval jig video

 

Hello Everyone.

Thanks Bill for posting this.

I hope everyone enjoys the video?

the oval jig is both complex and simple at the same time.

 

The Planetary gear concept is what makes this jig work.

The "Sun" gear is stationary (it dose NOT move when the table moves.) The 
planate gear moves around the Sun. This planate gear has a adjustable pivot 
point which makes the table move as the gears rotate. 

 

I Hope you all enjoy this video, Hopefully you all will try to make something 
like this for your self's.   

Please let me know what you think?  

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR8ZwCHfv6Q

 

C.A.G.

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Re: Oval jig video

2024-01-22 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 under the table I have a bracket that hooks up to the base. I do not have a 
photo of this. (YET)but the Sun Gear cannot move although the table dose. the 
planate gear is attached to the table, so the planate gear turns. (like our 
world dose as it moves around the sun.)
C.A.G.
On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 05:43:58 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
So I see the shaft attached to the sun gear but how is the shaft attached to 
the base so it wont turn as the table rotates 

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 8:52 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Oval jig video

  

I am very happy to hear that Bill.

  

For me the Trick was to make the Sun Gear, so it moves/dose not move, with the 
table turning.  As you can see in the photo, there is a ball bearing seat with 
a rod that runs through the table, the gear is pinned under the table so it 
will not move with the table as it turns.

  

If there is anything that I can do to help, just ask.

  

  

C.A.G.

  

On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 03:58:17 PM EST,  wrote: 

  

  

This is the best legacy mod since the wave attachment I love it, the 
possibilities are endless fantastic curt I’m going to build one

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 4:36 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: Oval jig video

 

Hello Everyone.

Thanks Bill for posting this.

I hope everyone enjoys the video?

the oval jig is both complex and simple at the same time.

 

The Planetary gear concept is what makes this jig work.

The "Sun" gear is stationary (it dose NOT move when the table moves.) The 
planate gear moves around the Sun. This planate gear has a adjustable pivot 
point which makes the table move as the gears rotate. 

 

I Hope you all enjoy this video, Hopefully you all will try to make something 
like this for your self's.   

Please let me know what you think?  

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR8ZwCHfv6Q

 

C.A.G.

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RE: Oval jig video

2024-01-22 Thread bulkeley 
So I see the shaft attached to the sun gear but how is the shaft attached to 
the base so it wont turn as the table rotates 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 8:52 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Oval jig video

 

I am very happy to hear that Bill.

 

For me the Trick was to make the Sun Gear, so it moves/dose not move, with the 
table turning.  As you can see in the photo, there is a ball bearing seat with 
a rod that runs through the table, the gear is pinned under the table so it 
will not move with the table as it turns.

 

If there is anything that I can do to help, just ask.

 

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 03:58:17 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

This is the best legacy mod since the wave attachment I love it, the 
possibilities are endless fantastic curt I’m going to build one

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 4:36 AM
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Subject: Oval jig video

 

Hello Everyone.

Thanks Bill for posting this.

I hope everyone enjoys the video?

the oval jig is both complex and simple at the same time.

 

The Planetary gear concept is what makes this jig work.

The "Sun" gear is stationary (it dose NOT move when the table moves.) The 
planate gear moves around the Sun. This planate gear has a adjustable pivot 
point which makes the table move as the gears rotate. 

 

I Hope you all enjoy this video, Hopefully you all will try to make something 
like this for your self's.   

Please let me know what you think?  

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR8ZwCHfv6Q

 

C.A.G.

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Re: Oval jig video

2024-01-22 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Yes under the rails would be a good idea for this type of rotary table. I 
think I can still re-work my supports so I can do this in the future. but for 
now, I am just happy that this proto type is working.If I were going to change 
anything on this jig. it would be to make the Sun Gear more Robust, (the rod is 
to small, if the gears jam I know it will bend.) a 1/2" rod would have been a 
better choice. (but I did not want to ruin my vac. port on this table, so I 
keep it to 1/4" so it would fit through the 1/8" piping that the vac. uses.) 
Have a good night.
C.A.G.
On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 05:23:39 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
In sure I will be asking many question as time goes by, I am going to look at 
possibilities of a lower profile to allow higher projects like bowls

And possible larger diameter work like platters that can fit under the rails 
all this is swirling around in my mind lol

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 8:52 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Oval jig video

  

I am very happy to hear that Bill.

  

For me the Trick was to make the Sun Gear, so it moves/dose not move, with the 
table turning.  As you can see in the photo, there is a ball bearing seat with 
a rod that runs through the table, the gear is pinned under the table so it 
will not move with the table as it turns.

  

If there is anything that I can do to help, just ask.

  

  

C.A.G.

  

On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 03:58:17 PM EST,  wrote: 

  

  

This is the best legacy mod since the wave attachment I love it, the 
possibilities are endless fantastic curt I’m going to build one

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 4:36 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: Oval jig video

 

Hello Everyone.

Thanks Bill for posting this.

I hope everyone enjoys the video?

the oval jig is both complex and simple at the same time.

 

The Planetary gear concept is what makes this jig work.

The "Sun" gear is stationary (it dose NOT move when the table moves.) The 
planate gear moves around the Sun. This planate gear has a adjustable pivot 
point which makes the table move as the gears rotate. 

 

I Hope you all enjoy this video, Hopefully you all will try to make something 
like this for your self's.   

Please let me know what you think?  

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR8ZwCHfv6Q

 

C.A.G.

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RE: Oval jig video

2024-01-22 Thread bulkeley 
In sure I will be asking many question as time goes by, I am going to look at 
possibilities of a lower profile to allow higher projects like bowls

And possible larger diameter work like platters that can fit under the rails 
all this is swirling around in my mind lol

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 8:52 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Oval jig video

 

I am very happy to hear that Bill.

 

For me the Trick was to make the Sun Gear, so it moves/dose not move, with the 
table turning.  As you can see in the photo, there is a ball bearing seat with 
a rod that runs through the table, the gear is pinned under the table so it 
will not move with the table as it turns.

 

If there is anything that I can do to help, just ask.

 

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 03:58:17 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

This is the best legacy mod since the wave attachment I love it, the 
possibilities are endless fantastic curt I’m going to build one

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 4:36 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Oval jig video

 

Hello Everyone.

Thanks Bill for posting this.

I hope everyone enjoys the video?

the oval jig is both complex and simple at the same time.

 

The Planetary gear concept is what makes this jig work.

The "Sun" gear is stationary (it dose NOT move when the table moves.) The 
planate gear moves around the Sun. This planate gear has a adjustable pivot 
point which makes the table move as the gears rotate. 

 

I Hope you all enjoy this video, Hopefully you all will try to make something 
like this for your self's.   

Please let me know what you think?  

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR8ZwCHfv6Q

 

C.A.G.

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RE: Oval jig video

2024-01-22 Thread bulkeley 
This is the best legacy mod since the wave attachment I love it, the 
possibilities are endless fantastic curt I’m going to build one

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 4:36 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: Oval jig video

 

Hello Everyone.

Thanks Bill for posting this.

I hope everyone enjoys the video?

the oval jig is both complex and simple at the same time.

 

The Planetary gear concept is what makes this jig work.

The "Sun" gear is stationary (it dose NOT move when the table moves.) The 
planate gear moves around the Sun. This planate gear has a adjustable pivot 
point which makes the table move as the gears rotate. 

 

I Hope you all enjoy this video, Hopefully you all will try to make something 
like this for your self's.   

Please let me know what you think?  

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR8ZwCHfv6Q

 

C.A.G.

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Re: Oval jig video

2024-01-22 Thread Ccm Ccm 
Nice, very innovative

On Monday, January 22, 2024, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
> Thanks Bill for posting this.
> I hope everyone enjoys the video?
> the oval jig is both complex and simple at the same time.
>
> The Planetary gear concept is what makes this jig work.
> The "Sun" gear is stationary (it dose NOT move when the table moves.) The
> planate gear moves around the Sun. This planate gear has a adjustable pivot
> point which makes the table move as the gears rotate.
>
> I Hope you all enjoy this video, Hopefully you all will try to make
> something like this for your self's.
> Please let me know what you think?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR8ZwCHfv6Q
>
> C.A.G.
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Oval jig video

2024-01-22 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Hello Everyone.Thanks Bill for posting this.I hope everyone enjoys the 
video?the oval jig is both complex and simple at the same time.
The Planetary gear concept is what makes this jig work.The "Sun" gear is 
stationary (it dose NOT move when the table moves.) The planate gear moves 
around the Sun. This planate gear has a adjustable pivot point which makes the 
table move as the gears rotate. 
I Hope you all enjoy this video, Hopefully you all will try to make something 
like this for your self's.   Please let me know what you think?  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR8ZwCHfv6Q

C.A.G.

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