Re: router crafter

2024-06-19 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yes indeed, and that's why I have the LOM's and my Nova Ornamental Turners
jig.
The sky is the limit in what one can do with an imagination.
Great stuff for sure. Great videos.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
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On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 11:17 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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> Hi guys.
>
> Its all "Eye Candy" (Things that Dreams are made of.) ;-)
>
> I use to work with a man, who told me, His Wife dose not care where his
> apatite comes form, Just as long as
> he comes home to eat.
>
> The copy carver works along those lines.  It dose not matter where the
> idea came form, If I can use an idea... it may open up a world of
> possibility's for future projects.
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Tuesday, June 18, 2024 at 06:58:19 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yeah some very good stuff Bill. Always fascinating all the stuff out
> there.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 2:05 AM  wrote:
>
> Yea I said he had a couple of other good ones too
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 18, 2024 1:37 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Hey there everyone.
>
>
>
> I Just found another video by the same guy.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IoHu96BD18
>
>
>
> I think this one is also pretty neat.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 11:07:35 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Great stuff Bill and thanks for sharing will watch that tomorrow for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 7:25 PM  wrote:
>
> The router crafter and the legacy are not that much different there are a
> lot of really great ideas here we could all do on our mills
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGD1tAz-CrQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>
>
>
> some of his other videos are good too
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: router crafter

2024-06-18 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Hi guys.
Its all "Eye Candy" (Things that Dreams are made of.) ;-)
I use to work with a man, who told me, His Wife dose not care where his apatite 
comes form, Just as long ashe comes home to eat. 
The copy carver works along those lines.  It dose not matter where the idea 
came form, If I can use an idea... it may open up a world of possibility's for 
future projects.
Have a good night.
C.A.G.
On Tuesday, June 18, 2024 at 06:58:19 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Yeah some very good stuff Bill. Always fascinating all the stuff out there. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 2:05 AM  wrote:


Yea I said he had a couple of other good ones too

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 1:37 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Hey there everyone.

 

I Just found another video by the same guy.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IoHu96BD18

 

I think this one is also pretty neat. 

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 11:07:35 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote: 

 

 

Great stuff Bill and thanks for sharing will watch that tomorrow for sure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 7:25 PM  wrote:


The router crafter and the legacy are not that much different there are a lot 
of really great ideas here we could all do on our mills

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGD1tAz-CrQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions

 

some of his other videos are good too

 

Bill

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Re: router crafter

2024-06-18 Thread Michael Kratky
Just an observer these days but do follow the LOM blog; I bought my router 
crafter 50 years ago and still have but like my LOM 1200 I don’t use it either.

Michael Kratky

> On Jun 17, 2024, at 8:25 PM,   
> wrote:
> 
> The router crafter and the legacy are not that much different there are a lot 
> of really great ideas here we could all do on our mills
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGD1tAz-CrQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>  
> some of his other videos are good too
>  
> Bill
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Re: router crafter

2024-06-18 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yeah some very good stuff Bill. Always fascinating all the stuff out there.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 2:05 AM  wrote:

> Yea I said he had a couple of other good ones too
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 18, 2024 1:37 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Hey there everyone.
>
>
>
> I Just found another video by the same guy.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IoHu96BD18
>
>
>
> I think this one is also pretty neat.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 11:07:35 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Great stuff Bill and thanks for sharing will watch that tomorrow for sure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 7:25 PM  wrote:
>
> The router crafter and the legacy are not that much different there are a
> lot of really great ideas here we could all do on our mills
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGD1tAz-CrQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>
>
>
> some of his other videos are good too
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: router crafter

2024-06-18 Thread Tim Ziegler
Thanks Curt,

Now I really better get going on things on my end for sure.
Thanks for the awesome videos. Very good information.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
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On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 10:36 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hey there everyone.
>
> I Just found another video by the same guy.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IoHu96BD18
>
> I think this one is also pretty neat.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 11:07:35 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Great stuff Bill and thanks for sharing will watch that tomorrow for sure.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 7:25 PM  wrote:
>
> The router crafter and the legacy are not that much different there are a
> lot of really great ideas here we could all do on our mills
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGD1tAz-CrQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>
>
>
> some of his other videos are good too
>
>
>
> Bill
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RE: router crafter

2024-06-18 Thread bulkeley
Yea I said he had a couple of other good ones too

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 1:37 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Hey there everyone.

 

I Just found another video by the same guy.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IoHu96BD18

 

I think this one is also pretty neat. 

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 11:07:35 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Great stuff Bill and thanks for sharing will watch that tomorrow for sure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 7:25 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

The router crafter and the legacy are not that much different there are a lot 
of really great ideas here we could all do on our mills

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGD1tAz-CrQ 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGD1tAz-CrQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions>
 &ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions

 

some of his other videos are good too

 

Bill

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RE: router crafter

2024-06-18 Thread bulkeley
Yea I also though there was nothing there we couldn’t do and a couple of things 
I had not thought of we could do too

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 12:25 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Hello Bill.

 

Now that's a nice video ( I truly enjoyed watching it.)

 

You are right the Router Crafter and the Legacy are distance cozens to each 
other. They were made to do the same types of work. (differently) 

I did not see anything in this video that could not be made with the Legacy. 

As I said before, I did enjoy watching this video.  (Video's like this we call 
"Eye Candy".  that is, they get the mind active, and sometimes excited. You say 
to your self. I can do that! ) ;-)

 

Thanks Bill.  (Good find!)

 

C.A.G.

 

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The router crafter and the legacy are not that much different there are a lot 
of really great ideas here we could all do on our mills

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGD1tAz-CrQ 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGD1tAz-CrQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions>
 &ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions

 

some of his other videos are good too

 

Bill

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Re: router crafter

2024-06-17 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Hey there everyone.
I Just found another video by the same guy.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IoHu96BD18
I think this one is also pretty neat. 
C.A.G.
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 11:07:35 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Great stuff Bill and thanks for sharing will watch that tomorrow for sure. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 7:25 PM  wrote:


The router crafter and the legacy are not that much different there are a lot 
of really great ideas here we could all do on our mills

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGD1tAz-CrQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions

 

some of his other videos are good too

 

Bill


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Re: router crafter

2024-06-17 Thread Tim Ziegler
Great stuff Bill and thanks for sharing will watch that tomorrow for sure.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 7:25 PM  wrote:

> The router crafter and the legacy are not that much different there are a
> lot of really great ideas here we could all do on our mills
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGD1tAz-CrQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>
>
>
> some of his other videos are good too
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: router crafter

2024-06-17 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Hello Bill.

Now that's a nice video ( I truly enjoyed watching it.)
You are right the Router Crafter and the Legacy are distance cozens to each 
other. They were made to do the same types of work. (differently) I did not see 
anything in this video that could not be made with the Legacy. As I said 
before, I did enjoy watching this video.  (Video's like this we call "Eye 
Candy".  that is, they get the mind active, and sometimes excited. You say to 
your self. I can do that! ) ;-)
Thanks Bill.  (Good find!)
C.A.G.
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 08:25:41 PM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
 wrote:  
 
 
The router crafter and the legacy are not that much different there are a lot 
of really great ideas here we could all do on our mills

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGD1tAz-CrQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions

  

some of his other videos are good too

  

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Re: router crafter

2022-12-31 Thread Tim Ziegler
Happy New Year Bill, yup we have a few hours to go.
And it will come in as I sleep lol.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 7:12 AM  wrote:

> Off topic for a bit, its just after midnight here now so happy new year
> from down under
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Saturday, 31 December 2022 9:36 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Hi Max,
>
>
>
> Sorry to hear about your previous experience with the Woodworking show. I
> don’t typically think that far ahead or set enough time aside to enjoy a
> few of those classes ( but always wanted to )
>
>
>
> I go there mainly to pick up supplies and see what’s new. I purchased my
> Legacy 900 after seeing it at the Springfield show back in the early 2000s
>
>
>
> I am cautiously hopeful that the show next weekend will take place but I
> will at least stop by Woodcraft that day and gawk at some more tools. Lol
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Dec 31, 2022, at 12:18 AM, M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Bill,
>
>
>
> I'm still hoping to hear from some folks in The Group - as regards if they
> think The Woodworking Show will go on as they have been told.
>
>
>
> IMHO = In My Humble Opinion.  🤠
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Dec 30, 2022 1:19 AM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: router crafter
>
>
>
> Mac
>
>
>
> IMHO  what’s that sorry I get a head ach if I turn upside down to read
> that  lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Friday, 30 December 2022 4:48 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Michael,
>
> Do you really expect to see TWWS show up in W. Springfield, MA?
>
> I find it hard to buy into a "show" that can't get the word out better
> than 2-3 weeks before "kickoff".
>
> They are supposed to start in Baltimore in a week+.  None of us here in
> that area are holding our hopes up (not trusting) that it will pan out (
>
> or
>
> be worth it).
>
>
>
> After what happened to many of us that paid up front for what was to be
> recorded sessions that we'd be able to watch as we wanted over the next 12
> months?  Not likely!
>
> There's a competing "Show" -
>
> "Woodworking Expo"(?)  They have announced their schedule for this Spring
> through early Summer.  Check them out.  More likely to happen - IMHO.Happy
> New Year - to all ya'll!Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: 
> Sent: Dec 30, 2022 12:21 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Top of the morningTim,
>
> No,  like my LOM 1200 I don’t use it, anyone in the my neck of the woods
> interested in them make me an offer.
>
>
>
> Interestingly of all the Clubs I’ve belonged to over the years and all of
> the symposiums I’ve attended all over the country not a single woodworker
> or woodturner has ever mentioned the Router Crafter or even the Legacy
> Ornamental Mill for that matter.
>
>
>
> The Woodworking Shows are back on track for this winter after being shut
> down for 3 years,  I will be doing turning demonstrations at the one in
> West Springfield Mass Jan 13-15 for the Western Mass Woodturners the only
> Club I’m still active with even though I’m 2 1/2 hours away.
>
>
>
> Michael Kratky
> --
> --
>
> On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> Did you do much with it Michael?
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
> --
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 6:04 AM Owner  wrote:
>
> I still have the Router Crafter in its ent
>
> Michael Kratky
> --
> --
>
> On Dec 26, 2022, at 4:43 PM,  <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>
>  some interestin

RE: router crafter

2022-12-31 Thread bulkeley
Off topic for a bit, its just after midnight here now so happy new year from 
down under

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Saturday, 31 December 2022 9:36 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Hi Max, 

 

Sorry to hear about your previous experience with the Woodworking show. I don’t 
typically think that far ahead or set enough time aside to enjoy a few of those 
classes ( but always wanted to ) 

 

I go there mainly to pick up supplies and see what’s new. I purchased my Legacy 
900 after seeing it at the Springfield show back in the early 2000s 

 

I am cautiously hopeful that the show next weekend will take place but I will 
at least stop by Woodcraft that day and gawk at some more tools. Lol

 

Jeff from Connecticut 

Sent from my iPhone





On Dec 31, 2022, at 12:18 AM, M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> > wrote:



Bill,

 

I'm still hoping to hear from some folks in The Group - as regards if they 
think The Woodworking Show will go on as they have been told.

 

IMHO = In My Humble Opinion.  🤠

Mac


  _  


  _  


-Original Message-
From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Dec 30, 2022 1:19 AM
To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: router crafter

 

Mac

 

IMHO  what’s that sorry I get a head ach if I turn upside down to read that 
 lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Friday, 30 December 2022 4:48 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Michael,

Do you really expect to see TWWS show up in W. Springfield, MA?

I find it hard to buy into a "show" that can't get the word out better than 2-3 
weeks before "kickoff".

They are supposed to start in Baltimore in a week+.  None of us here in that 
area are holding our hopes up (not trusting) that it will pan out (

or

be worth it).

 

After what happened to many of us that paid up front for what was to be 
recorded sessions that we'd be able to watch as we wanted over the next 12 
months?  Not likely!

There's a competing "Show" -

"Woodworking Expo"(?)  They have announced their schedule for this Spring 
through early Summer.  Check them out.  More likely to happen - IMHO.Happy New 
Year - to all ya'll!Mac

  _  

  _  

-Original Message-

From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Dec 30, 2022 12:21 AM
To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Top of the morningTim,

No,  like my LOM 1200 I don’t use it, anyone in the my neck of the woods 
interested in them make me an offer.

 

Interestingly of all the Clubs I’ve belonged to over the years and all of the 
symposiums I’ve attended all over the country not a single woodworker or 
woodturner has ever mentioned the Router Crafter or even the Legacy Ornamental 
Mill for that matter.

 

The Woodworking Shows are back on track for this winter after being shut down 
for 3 years,  I will be doing turning demonstrations at the one in West 
Springfield Mass Jan 13-15 for the Western Mass Woodturners the only Club I’m 
still active with even though I’m 2 1/2 hours away.

 

Michael Kratky

  _  

  _  

On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Did you do much with it Michael?

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

  _  

  _  

On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 6:04 AM Owner mailto:krat...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:

I still have the Router Crafter in its ent

Michael Kratky

  _  

  _  

On Dec 26, 2022, at 4:43 PM, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions>
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions

 some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting 
the stops on the cable they make use

of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.

Bill

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Re: router crafter

2022-12-31 Thread Jeff Richmond
Hi Max, Sorry to hear about your previous experience with the Woodworking show. I don’t typically think that far ahead or set enough time aside to enjoy a few of those classes ( but always wanted to ) I go there mainly to pick up supplies and see what’s new. I purchased my Legacy 900 after seeing it at the Springfield show back in the early 2000s I am cautiously hopeful that the show next weekend will take place but I will at least stop by Woodcraft that day and gawk at some more tools. LolJeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 31, 2022, at 12:18 AM, M.W.Foscue  wrote:Bill,
 
I'm still hoping to hear from some folks in The Group - as regards if they think The Woodworking Show will go on as they have been told.
 
IMHO = In My Humble Opinion.  🤠
Mac


-Original Message-From: Sent: Dec 30, 2022 1:19 AMTo: Subject: RE: router crafter
 


Mac
 
IMHO  what’s that sorry I get a head ach if I turn upside down to read that  lol
 
Bill
 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M.W.FoscueSent: Friday, 30 December 2022 4:48 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: router crafter

 

Michael,
Do you really expect to see TWWS show up in W. Springfield, MA?
I find it hard to buy into a "show" that can't get the word out better than 2-3 weeks before "kickoff".
They are supposed to start in Baltimore in a week+.  None of us here in that area are holding our hopes up (not trusting) that it will pan out (

or
be worth it).
 
After what happened to many of us that paid up front for what was to be recorded sessions that we'd be able to watch as we wanted over the next 12 months?  Not likely!
There's a competing "Show" -
"Woodworking Expo"(?)  They have announced their schedule for this Spring through early Summer.  Check them out.  More likely to happen - IMHO.Happy New Year - to all ya'll!Mac


-Original Message-

From: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>Sent: Dec 30, 2022 12:21 AMTo: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: router crafter
 

Top of the morningTim,


No,  like my LOM 1200 I don’t use it, anyone in the my neck of the woods interested in them make me an offer.

 

Interestingly of all the Clubs I’ve belonged to over the years and all of the symposiums I’ve attended all over the country not a single woodworker or woodturner has ever mentioned the Router Crafter or even the Legacy Ornamental Mill for that matter.


 


The Woodworking Shows are back on track for this winter after being shut down for 3 years,  I will be doing turning demonstrations at the one in West Springfield Mass Jan 13-15 for the Western Mass Woodturners the only Club I’m still active with even though I’m 2 1/2 hours away.


 


Michael Kratky




On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:



Did you do much with it Michael?

 



Kind Regards,

 


Timothy J. Ziegler






On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 6:04 AM Owner <krat...@roadrunner.com> wrote:




I still have the Router Crafter in its ent

Michael Kratky






On Dec 26, 2022, at 4:43 PM, <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions


 some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting the stops on the cable they make use


of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.


Bill
















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RE: router crafter

2022-12-30 Thread bulkeley
Oh I see god I’m stupid sometimes lol still getting use to the modern lazy way 
of writing 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Saturday, 31 December 2022 4:18 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: router crafter

 

Bill,

 

I'm still hoping to hear from some folks in The Group - as regards if they 
think The Woodworking Show will go on as they have been told.

 

IMHO = In My Humble Opinion.  🤠

Mac

  _  

  _  

-Original Message-
From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Dec 30, 2022 1:19 AM
To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: router crafter

 

Mac

 

IMHO  what’s that sorry I get a head ach if I turn upside down to read that 
 lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Friday, 30 December 2022 4:48 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Michael,

Do you really expect to see TWWS show up in W. Springfield, MA?

I find it hard to buy into a "show" that can't get the word out better than 2-3 
weeks before "kickoff".

They are supposed to start in Baltimore in a week+.  None of us here in that 
area are holding our hopes up (not trusting) that it will pan out (

or

be worth it).

 

After what happened to many of us that paid up front for what was to be 
recorded sessions that we'd be able to watch as we wanted over the next 12 
months?  Not likely!

There's a competing "Show" -

"Woodworking Expo"(?)  They have announced their schedule for this Spring 
through early Summer.  Check them out.  More likely to happen - IMHO.Happy New 
Year - to all ya'll!Mac

  _  

  _  

-Original Message-

From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Dec 30, 2022 12:21 AM
To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Top of the morningTim,

No,  like my LOM 1200 I don’t use it, anyone in the my neck of the woods 
interested in them make me an offer.

 

Interestingly of all the Clubs I’ve belonged to over the years and all of the 
symposiums I’ve attended all over the country not a single woodworker or 
woodturner has ever mentioned the Router Crafter or even the Legacy Ornamental 
Mill for that matter.

 

The Woodworking Shows are back on track for this winter after being shut down 
for 3 years,  I will be doing turning demonstrations at the one in West 
Springfield Mass Jan 13-15 for the Western Mass Woodturners the only Club I’m 
still active with even though I’m 2 1/2 hours away.

 

Michael Kratky

  _  

  _  

On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Did you do much with it Michael?

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

  _  

  _  

On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 6:04 AM Owner mailto:krat...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:

I still have the Router Crafter in its ent

Michael Kratky

  _  

  _  

On Dec 26, 2022, at 4:43 PM, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions>
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions

 some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting 
the stops on the cable they make use

of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.

Bill

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RE: router crafter

2022-12-30 Thread M.W.Foscue
Bill,

I'm still hoping to hear from some folks in The Group - as regards if they 
think The Woodworking Show will go on as they have been told.

IMHO = In My Humble Opinion.  🤠
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Dec 30, 2022 1:19 AM
To: 
Subject: RE: router crafter

Mac
 
IMHO  what’s that sorry I get a head ach if I turn upside down to 
read that  lol
 
Bill
 
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Friday, 30 December 2022 4:48 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: router crafter


Michael,
Do you really expect to see TWWS show up in W. Springfield, MA?
I find it hard to buy into a "show" that can't get the word out better than 2-3 
weeks before "kickoff".
They are supposed to start in Baltimore in a week+.  None of us here in that 
area are holding our hopes up (not trusting) that it will pan out (

or
be worth it).

After what happened to many of us that paid up front for what was to be 
recorded sessions that we'd be able to watch as we wanted over the next 12 
months?  Not likely!
There's a competing "Show" -
"Woodworking Expo"(?)  They have announced their schedule for this Spring 
through early Summer.  Check them out.  More likely to happen - IMHO.Happy New 
Year - to all ya'll!Mac


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Sent: Dec 30, 2022 12:21 AM
To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)>
Subject: Re: router crafter

Top of the morningTim,

No,  like my LOM 1200 I don’t use it, anyone in the my neck of the woods 
interested in them make me an offer.

Interestingly of all the Clubs I’ve belonged to over the years and all of 
the symposiums I’ve attended all over the country not a single woodworker 
or woodturner has ever mentioned the Router Crafter or even the Legacy 
Ornamental Mill for that matter.



The Woodworking Shows are back on track for this winter after being shut down 
for 3 years,  I will be doing turning demonstrations at the one in West 
Springfield Mass Jan 13-15 for the Western Mass Woodturners the only Club 
I’m still active with even though I’m 2 1/2 hours away.


Michael Kratky



On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com)> wrote:

Did you do much with it Michael?

Kind Regards,


Timothy J. Ziegler






On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 6:04 AM Owner mailto:krat...@roadrunner.com)> wrote:


I still have the Router Crafter in its ent
Michael Kratky



On Dec 26, 2022, at 4:43 PM, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
 
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions)

 some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting 
the stops on the cable they make use

of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.

Bill
















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RE: router crafter

2022-12-30 Thread bulkeley
I think unless its really cheap it would be hard to sell used or not I know I 
wouldn’t pay over 50 bucks for one and that would have to include free shipping 
once you own a legacy the router crafter just becomes wall art you will never 
use it again.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Mike Newman
Sent: Saturday, 31 December 2022 12:34 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

I'm about ready to open up the box on the new never used router crafter sitting 
on my shelf just to have something to play with this winter, but then I can't 
advertise it as new never used to sell it.  This could be the most important 
decision of the day. LOL  I already know how to easily extend the centers out 
to 6ft and I could be making twisties by the end of the day.  Something to 
think about over morning coffee.

On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 5:54:51 AM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com 
<mailto:timjz...@gmail.com>  wrote:

yeah tough spot to be in. But oh you can corner the market Bill. lol 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 12:03 AM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Try living down under I am the only owner of one in my entire country lol

 

Bill

 

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mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Owner
Sent: Tuesday, 27 December 2022 11:28 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

 

Top of the morningTim,

No,  like my LOM 1200 I don’t use it, anyone in the my neck of the woods 
interested in them make me an offer.

 

Interestingly of all the Clubs I’ve belonged to over the years and all of the 
symposiums I’ve attended all over the country not a single woodworker or 
woodturner has ever mentioned the Router Crafter or even the Legacy Ornamental 
Mill for that matter.

 

The Woodworking Shows are back on track for this winter after being shut down 
for 3 years,  I will be doing turning demonstrations at the one in West 
Springfield Mass Jan 13-15 for the Western Mass Woodturners the only Club I’m 
still active with even though I’m 2 1/2 hours away.

 

Michael Kratky

119 Riverview Rd., 

Northville, N.Y. 12134

 

518 863-2821  

text 518 207-7247  

 

Email;

kra...@roadrunner.com <mailto:kra...@roadrunner.com> 

 

 

 

On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjz...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Did you do much with it Michael?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 6:04 AM Owner mailto:kra...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:

I still have the Router Crafter in its entirety bought it back in the 70’s.

 

 

Michael Kratky

119 Riverview Rd., 

Northville, N.Y. 12134

 

518 863-2821  

text 518 207-7247  

 

Email;

kra...@roadrunner.com <mailto:kra...@roadrunner.com> 

 

 

 

On Dec 26, 2022, at 4:43 PM, mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

 

 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions>
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions

 

some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting 
the stops on the cable they make use

of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.

 

Bill

 

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Re: router crafter

2022-12-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
yup we're here for you Bill.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 2:25 PM  wrote:

> Getting parts for me is hard enough let alone for others here lol, I will
> just keep plodding along on my lonesome as I always have with the help of
> my good friends in this group
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Friday, 30 December 2022 10:55 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> yeah tough spot to be in. But oh you can corner the market Bill. lol
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 12:03 AM  wrote:
>
> Try living down under I am the only owner of one in my entire country lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Owner
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 December 2022 11:28 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
>
>
> Top of the morningTim,
>
> No,  like my LOM 1200 I don’t use it, anyone in the my neck of the woods
> interested in them make me an offer.
>
>
>
> Interestingly of all the Clubs I’ve belonged to over the years and all of
> the symposiums I’ve attended all over the country not a single woodworker
> or woodturner has ever mentioned the Router Crafter or even the Legacy
> Ornamental Mill for that matter.
>
>
>
> The Woodworking Shows are back on track for this winter after being shut
> down for 3 years,  I will be doing turning demonstrations at the one in
> West Springfield Mass Jan 13-15 for the Western Mass Woodturners the only
> Club I’m still active with even though I’m 2 1/2 hours away.
>
>
>
> Michael Kratky
>
> 119 Riverview Rd.,
>
> Northville, N.Y. 12134
>
>
>
> 518 863-2821
>
> text 518 207-7247
>
>
>
> Email;
>
> krat...@roadrunner.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>
>
> Did you do much with it Michael?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 6:04 AM Owner  wrote:
>
> I still have the Router Crafter in its entirety bought it back in the 70’s.
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael Kratky
>
> 119 Riverview Rd.,
>
> Northville, N.Y. 12134
>
>
>
> 518 863-2821
>
> text 518 207-7247
>
>
>
> Email;
>
> krat...@roadrunner.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 26, 2022, at 4:43 PM,  <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>
>
>
> some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by
> adjusting the stops on the cable they make use
>
> of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
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RE: router crafter

2022-12-30 Thread bulkeley
Getting parts for me is hard enough let alone for others here lol, I will just 
keep plodding along on my lonesome as I always have with the help of my good 
friends in this group

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Friday, 30 December 2022 10:55 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

yeah tough spot to be in. But oh you can corner the market Bill. lol 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 12:03 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Try living down under I am the only owner of one in my entire country lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Owner
Sent: Tuesday, 27 December 2022 11:28 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

 

Top of the morningTim,

No,  like my LOM 1200 I don’t use it, anyone in the my neck of the woods 
interested in them make me an offer.

 

Interestingly of all the Clubs I’ve belonged to over the years and all of the 
symposiums I’ve attended all over the country not a single woodworker or 
woodturner has ever mentioned the Router Crafter or even the Legacy Ornamental 
Mill for that matter.

 

The Woodworking Shows are back on track for this winter after being shut down 
for 3 years,  I will be doing turning demonstrations at the one in West 
Springfield Mass Jan 13-15 for the Western Mass Woodturners the only Club I’m 
still active with even though I’m 2 1/2 hours away.

 

Michael Kratky

119 Riverview Rd., 

Northville, N.Y. 12134

 

518 863-2821

text 518 207-7247

 

Email;

krat...@roadrunner.com <mailto:krat...@roadrunner.com> 

 

 

 

On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Did you do much with it Michael?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 6:04 AM Owner mailto:krat...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:

I still have the Router Crafter in its entirety bought it back in the 70’s.

 

 

Michael Kratky

119 Riverview Rd., 

Northville, N.Y. 12134

 

518 863-2821

text 518 207-7247

 

Email;

krat...@roadrunner.com <mailto:krat...@roadrunner.com> 

 

 

 

On Dec 26, 2022, at 4:43 PM, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

 

 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions>
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions

 

some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting 
the stops on the cable they make use

of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.

 

Bill

 

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Re: router crafter

2022-12-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey wait a minute don't leave me out of this. I'll go if someone gives me a
ride. lol

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 8:12 AM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Hi Michael, I plan to be at the Woodworking Show on that Friday and will
> stop by to say hi.
>
> I don’t need a complete machine but am always interested in Legacy
> accessories if you are willing to part with any. I left my personal email
> below.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> email: jtrichmo...@gmail.com
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 30, 2022, at 12:20 AM, Owner  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Top of the morningTim,
> No,  like my LOM 1200 I don’t use it, anyone in the my neck of the woods
> interested in them make me an offer.
>
> Interestingly of all the Clubs I’ve belonged to over the years and all of
> the symposiums I’ve attended all over the country not a single woodworker
> or woodturner has ever mentioned the Router Crafter or even the Legacy
> Ornamental Mill for that matter.
>
> The Woodworking Shows are back on track for this winter after being shut
> down for 3 years,  I will be doing turning demonstrations at the one in
> West Springfield Mass Jan 13-15 for the Western Mass Woodturners the only
> Club I’m still active with even though I’m 2 1/2 hours away.
>
> Michael Kratky
> 119 Riverview Rd.,
> Northville, N.Y. 12134
>
> 518 863-2821
> text 518 207-7247
>
> Email;
> krat...@roadrunner.com
>
>
>
> On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> Did you do much with it Michael?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 6:04 AM Owner  wrote:
>
>> I still have the Router Crafter in its entirety bought it back in the
>> 70’s.
>>
>>
>> Michael Kratky
>> 119 Riverview Rd.,
>> Northville, N.Y. 12134
>>
>> 518 863-2821
>> text 518 207-7247
>>
>> Email;
>> krat...@roadrunner.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 26, 2022, at 4:43 PM,  <
>> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>>
>> some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by
>> adjusting the stops on the cable they make use
>> of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.
>>
>> Bill
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Re: router crafter

2022-12-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
Oh I hear you. Though I would never have anything left in the box long
enough to claim it unused lol. But slightly used maybe.
I think we just need to find one for you soon.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 7:34 AM Mike Newman  wrote:

> I'm about ready to open up the box on the new never used router crafter
> sitting on my shelf just to have something to play with this winter, but
> then I can't advertise it as new never used to sell it.  This could be the
> most important decision of the day. LOL  I already know how to easily
> extend the centers out to 6ft and I could be making twisties by the end of
> the day.  Something to think about over morning coffee.
>
> On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 5:54:51 AM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> yeah tough spot to be in. But oh you can corner the market Bill. lol
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 12:03 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> Try living down under I am the only owner of one in my entire country lol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>> *On Behalf Of *Owner
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 December 2022 11:28 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Top of the morningTim,
>>>
>>> No,  like my LOM 1200 I don’t use it, anyone in the my neck of the woods
>>> interested in them make me an offer.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Interestingly of all the Clubs I’ve belonged to over the years and all
>>> of the symposiums I’ve attended all over the country not a single
>>> woodworker or woodturner has ever mentioned the Router Crafter or even the
>>> Legacy Ornamental Mill for that matter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Woodworking Shows are back on track for this winter after being shut
>>> down for 3 years,  I will be doing turning demonstrations at the one in
>>> West Springfield Mass Jan 13-15 for the Western Mass Woodturners the only
>>> Club I’m still active with even though I’m 2 1/2 hours away.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Kratky
>>>
>>> 119 Riverview Rd.,
>>>
>>> Northville, N.Y. 12134
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 518 863-2821 <(518)%20863-2821>
>>>
>>> text 518 207-7247 <(518)%20207-7247>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Email;
>>>
>>> kra...@roadrunner.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Did you do much with it Michael?
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 6:04 AM Owner  wrote:
>>>
>>> I still have the Router Crafter in its entirety bought it back in the
>>> 70’s.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Kratky
>>>
>>> 119 Riverview Rd.,
>>>
>>> Northville, N.Y. 12134
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 518 863-2821 <(518)%20863-2821>
>>>
>>> text 518 207-7247 <(518)%20207-7247>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Email;
>>>
>>> kra...@roadrunner.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 26, 2022, at 4:43 PM,  <
>>> bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by
>>

Re: router crafter

2022-12-30 Thread Jeff Richmond
Hi Michael, I plan to be at the Woodworking Show on that Friday and will stop by to say hi. I don’t need a complete machine but am always interested in Legacy accessories if you are willing to part with any. I left my personal email below.Jeff from Connecticut email: jtrichmo...@gmail.comSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 30, 2022, at 12:20 AM, Owner  wrote:Top of the morningTim,No,  like my LOM 1200 I don’t use it, anyone in the my neck of the woods interested in them make me an offer.Interestingly of all the Clubs I’ve belonged to over the years and all of the symposiums I’ve attended all over the country not a single woodworker or woodturner has ever mentioned the Router Crafter or even the Legacy Ornamental Mill for that matter.The Woodworking Shows are back on track for this winter after being shut down for 3 years,  I will be doing turning demonstrations at the one in West Springfield Mass Jan 13-15 for the Western Mass Woodturners the only Club I’m still active with even though I’m 2 1/2 hours away.
Michael Kratky119 Riverview Rd., Northville, N.Y. 12134518 863-2821text 518 207-7247Email;krat...@roadrunner.com

On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Did you do much with it Michael?Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 6:04 AM Owner  wrote:I still have the Router Crafter in its entirety bought it back in the 70’s.
Michael Kratky119 Riverview Rd., Northville, N.Y. 12134518 863-2821text 518 207-7247Email;krat...@roadrunner.com

On Dec 26, 2022, at 4:43 PM,   wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting the stops on the cable they make useof backlash to mill wider hollows interesting. Bill-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/01d91973%2412edd450%2438c97cf0%24%40mmnet.com.au.

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Re: router crafter

2022-12-30 Thread Mike Newman
I'm about ready to open up the box on the new never used router crafter 
sitting on my shelf just to have something to play with this winter, but 
then I can't advertise it as new never used to sell it.  This could be the 
most important decision of the day. LOL  I already know how to easily 
extend the centers out to 6ft and I could be making twisties by the end of 
the day.  Something to think about over morning coffee.

On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 5:54:51 AM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:

> yeah tough spot to be in. But oh you can corner the market Bill. lol 
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 12:03 AM  wrote:
>
>> Try living down under I am the only owner of one in my entire country lol
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Owner
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 December 2022 11:28 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Top of the morningTim,
>>
>> No,  like my LOM 1200 I don’t use it, anyone in the my neck of the woods 
>> interested in them make me an offer.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Interestingly of all the Clubs I’ve belonged to over the years and all of 
>> the symposiums I’ve attended all over the country not a single woodworker 
>> or woodturner has ever mentioned the Router Crafter or even the Legacy 
>> Ornamental Mill for that matter.
>>
>>  
>>
>> The Woodworking Shows are back on track for this winter after being shut 
>> down for 3 years,  I will be doing turning demonstrations at the one in 
>> West Springfield Mass Jan 13-15 for the Western Mass Woodturners the only 
>> Club I’m still active with even though I’m 2 1/2 hours away.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Michael Kratky
>>
>> 119 Riverview Rd., 
>>
>> Northville, N.Y. 12134
>>
>>  
>>
>> 518 863-2821 <(518)%20863-2821>
>>
>> text 518 207-7247 <(518)%20207-7247>
>>
>>  
>>
>> Email;
>>
>> kra...@roadrunner.com
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>> Did you do much with it Michael?
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>  
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 6:04 AM Owner  wrote:
>>
>> I still have the Router Crafter in its entirety bought it back in the 
>> 70’s.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Michael Kratky
>>
>> 119 Riverview Rd., 
>>
>> Northville, N.Y. 12134
>>
>>  
>>
>> 518 863-2821 <(518)%20863-2821>
>>
>> text 518 207-7247 <(518)%20207-7247>
>>
>>  
>>
>> Email;
>>
>> kra...@roadrunner.com
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 26, 2022, at 4:43 PM,   
>> wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>>
>>  
>>
>> some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by 
>> adjusting the stops on the cable they make use
>>
>> of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
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Re: router crafter

2022-12-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
yeah tough spot to be in. But oh you can corner the market Bill. lol
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 12:03 AM  wrote:

> Try living down under I am the only owner of one in my entire country lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Owner
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 December 2022 11:28 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
>
>
> Top of the morningTim,
>
> No,  like my LOM 1200 I don’t use it, anyone in the my neck of the woods
> interested in them make me an offer.
>
>
>
> Interestingly of all the Clubs I’ve belonged to over the years and all of
> the symposiums I’ve attended all over the country not a single woodworker
> or woodturner has ever mentioned the Router Crafter or even the Legacy
> Ornamental Mill for that matter.
>
>
>
> The Woodworking Shows are back on track for this winter after being shut
> down for 3 years,  I will be doing turning demonstrations at the one in
> West Springfield Mass Jan 13-15 for the Western Mass Woodturners the only
> Club I’m still active with even though I’m 2 1/2 hours away.
>
>
>
> Michael Kratky
>
> 119 Riverview Rd.,
>
> Northville, N.Y. 12134
>
>
>
> 518 863-2821
>
> text 518 207-7247
>
>
>
> Email;
>
> krat...@roadrunner.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>
>
> Did you do much with it Michael?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 6:04 AM Owner  wrote:
>
> I still have the Router Crafter in its entirety bought it back in the 70’s.
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael Kratky
>
> 119 Riverview Rd.,
>
> Northville, N.Y. 12134
>
>
>
> 518 863-2821
>
> text 518 207-7247
>
>
>
> Email;
>
> krat...@roadrunner.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 26, 2022, at 4:43 PM,  <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>
>
>
> some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by
> adjusting the stops on the cable they make use
>
> of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
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Re: router crafter

2022-12-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
Thanks Michael,

Yeah wish we were closer I'd snap up your LOM, But we are in midwinter here
and lots of icy roads. Not great for travel.
It is odd that no one talks about them or maybe don't even own one. It does
seem to be a special type of niche that many
are intimidated by. Also a certain age group of which many are
downsizing and can't sacrifice the space maybe???

Well I am excited for your shows to start. Keep an eye out for Rollie
Johnson, I am sure he's more than ready too.
Look his name up in the Fine WoodWorking Magazine, he's been busy writing
articles for sure.


Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 11:20 PM Owner  wrote:

>
> Top of the morningTim,
> No,  like my LOM 1200 I don’t use it, anyone in the my neck of the woods
> interested in them make me an offer.
>
> Interestingly of all the Clubs I’ve belonged to over the years and all of
> the symposiums I’ve attended all over the country not a single woodworker
> or woodturner has ever mentioned the Router Crafter or even the Legacy
> Ornamental Mill for that matter.
>
> The Woodworking Shows are back on track for this winter after being shut
> down for 3 years,  I will be doing turning demonstrations at the one in
> West Springfield Mass Jan 13-15 for the Western Mass Woodturners the only
> Club I’m still active with even though I’m 2 1/2 hours away.
>
> Michael Kratky
> 119 Riverview Rd.,
> Northville, N.Y. 12134
>
> 518 863-2821
> text 518 207-7247
>
> Email;
> krat...@roadrunner.com
>
>
>
> On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> Did you do much with it Michael?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 6:04 AM Owner  wrote:
>
>> I still have the Router Crafter in its entirety bought it back in the
>> 70’s.
>>
>>
>> Michael Kratky
>> 119 Riverview Rd.,
>> Northville, N.Y. 12134
>>
>> 518 863-2821
>> text 518 207-7247
>>
>> Email;
>> krat...@roadrunner.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 26, 2022, at 4:43 PM,  <
>> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>>
>> some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by
>> adjusting the stops on the cable they make use
>> of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.
>>
>> Bill
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Re: router crafter

2022-12-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
right ?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 11:05 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> That's Funny Tim.  ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 12:19:33 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> you should get the mileage I get with my TRUCK, 12 mpg on a good day lol.
> Good thing I walk to work.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 8:39 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I like that Truck!
> One day I will get a toy like that !
>
> But since I live 48 miles away from work, I need a car that gets GAS
> Mileage . I truck just can not do that.
> But one day...
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 05:09:52 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> [image: Toyota -Landcruiser -79-dual -cab -ute -tray]
> https://www.whichcar.com.au/reviews/4x4oty/2017-4x4oty-winner-toyota-landcruiser-79-double-cab
>
>
>
> This sort of thing is what is the go in the outback
>
> Carry on top or in the back it might not be the best in the world but its
> what is popular down here
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Newman
> *Sent:* Thursday, 29 December 2022 2:28 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Mine is closer to the bottom photo than the top.  2002 with 319,000 miles
> but it keeps plugging along.  I have hauled a bunch of stuff in it, on it,
> and behind it over the years.
>
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 8:22:35 AM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:
>
> Hey Bill
>
>
>
> I think of it this way the "Suburban"  it the modern version of the  Station
> wagon .
>
> [image: Inline image]
> [image: Inline image]
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 01:00:03 AM EST, M.W.Foscue <
> mwfo...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
>
>
> A "Suburban" is not a pickup truck - here in the USA.
>
> It is a stretched version of a Chevrolet Blazer/ a very large SUV.
>
> It has 3 rows of seating - and no cargo "bed" area.  It has a pair of
> doors in the rear - opening left & right vs a tail gate and swing up window
> arrangement.  He was concerned he'd be able to get the Mill inside and
> still be able to close the rear doors.  Many of our states put chemicals on
> the roads to mitigate ice.  It results in LOTS of liquid being sucked up
> and spread in the air - like a mist.
>
> I am sure he does not want all that getting on the Mill (metal will
> quickly corrode).
>
>
>
> Happy New Year!
>
> Mac
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> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Dec 27, 2022 10:48 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Hey Bill he maybe can. But driving through Minnesota or Wisc. This time of
> year with doors open is a bit frigid. lol
>
> I'm just explain that he did not need all the inside measurements, at this
> point he has the information he needs.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
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> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 7:44 PM  wrote:
>
> Answer me a question if he has a suburban picup truck why can’t you have
> the back gate open and hang the extra length out the back.
>
> Or even tie to the top of the shut back gate with the other end in the
> back up against the back wall 
>
> What don’t I know?
>
>
>
> Bill
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RE: router crafter

2022-12-29 Thread bulkeley
Mac

 

IMHO  what’s that sorry I get a head ach if I turn upside down to read that 
 lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Friday, 30 December 2022 4:48 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Michael,

Do you really expect to see TWWS show up in W. Springfield, MA?

I find it hard to buy into a "show" that can't get the word out better than 2-3 
weeks before "kickoff".

They are supposed to start in Baltimore in a week+.  None of us here in that 
area are holding our hopes up (not trusting) that it will pan out (

or 

be worth it).

 

After what happened to many of us that paid up front for what was to be 
recorded sessions that we'd be able to watch as we wanted over the next 12 
months?  Not likely!

There's a competing "Show" -

"Woodworking Expo"(?)  They have announced their schedule for this Spring 
through early Summer.  Check them out.  More likely to happen - IMHO.Happy New 
Year - to all ya'll!Mac

  _  

  _  

-Original Message-

From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Dec 30, 2022 12:21 AM
To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Top of the morningTim,

No,  like my LOM 1200 I don’t use it, anyone in the my neck of the woods 
interested in them make me an offer. 

 

Interestingly of all the Clubs I’ve belonged to over the years and all of the 
symposiums I’ve attended all over the country not a single woodworker or 
woodturner has ever mentioned the Router Crafter or even the Legacy Ornamental 
Mill for that matter.

 

The Woodworking Shows are back on track for this winter after being shut down 
for 3 years,  I will be doing turning demonstrations at the one in West 
Springfield Mass Jan 13-15 for the Western Mass Woodturners the only Club I’m 
still active with even though I’m 2 1/2 hours away.

 

Michael Kratky

  _  

  _  

On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Did you do much with it Michael? 




Kind Regards, 

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

  _  

  _  

On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 6:04 AM Owner mailto:krat...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:

I still have the Router Crafter in its ent

Michael Kratky

  _  

  _  

On Dec 26, 2022, at 4:43 PM, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions>
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions

 some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting 
the stops on the cable they make use

of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.

Bill

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RE: router crafter

2022-12-29 Thread bulkeley
Try living down under I am the only owner of one in my entire country lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Owner
Sent: Tuesday, 27 December 2022 11:28 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

 

Top of the morningTim,

No,  like my LOM 1200 I don’t use it, anyone in the my neck of the woods 
interested in them make me an offer.

 

Interestingly of all the Clubs I’ve belonged to over the years and all of the 
symposiums I’ve attended all over the country not a single woodworker or 
woodturner has ever mentioned the Router Crafter or even the Legacy Ornamental 
Mill for that matter.

 

The Woodworking Shows are back on track for this winter after being shut down 
for 3 years,  I will be doing turning demonstrations at the one in West 
Springfield Mass Jan 13-15 for the Western Mass Woodturners the only Club I’m 
still active with even though I’m 2 1/2 hours away.

 

Michael Kratky

119 Riverview Rd., 

Northville, N.Y. 12134

 

518 863-2821

text 518 207-7247

 

Email;

krat...@roadrunner.com <mailto:krat...@roadrunner.com> 

 

 





On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Did you do much with it Michael?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 6:04 AM Owner mailto:krat...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:

I still have the Router Crafter in its entirety bought it back in the 70’s.

 

 

Michael Kratky

119 Riverview Rd., 

Northville, N.Y. 12134

 

518 863-2821

text 518 207-7247

 

Email;

krat...@roadrunner.com <mailto:krat...@roadrunner.com> 

 

 





On Dec 26, 2022, at 4:43 PM, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

 

 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions>
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions

 

some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting 
the stops on the cable they make use

of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.

 

Bill

 

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Re: router crafter

2022-12-29 Thread M.W.Foscue
Michael,
Do you really expect to see TWWS show up in W. Springfield, MA?
I find it hard to buy into a "show" that can't get the word out better than 2-3 
weeks before "kickoff".
They are supposed to start in Baltimore in a week+.  None of us here in that 
area are holding our hopes up (not trusting) that it will pan out (
orbe worth it).

After what happened to many of us that paid up front for what was to be 
recorded sessions that we'd be able to watch as we wanted over the next 12 
months?  Not likely!
There's a competing "Show" -
"Woodworking Expo"(?)  They have announced their schedule for this Spring 
through early Summer.  Check them out.  More likely to happen - IMHO.Happy New 
Year - to all ya'll!Mac-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Dec 30, 2022 12:21 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: router crafter

Top of the morningTim,
No,  like my LOM 1200 I don’t use it, anyone in the my neck of the woods 
interested in them make me an offer.
Interestingly of all the Clubs I’ve belonged to over the years and all of 
the symposiums I’ve attended all over the country not a single woodworker 
or woodturner has ever mentioned the Router Crafter or even the Legacy 
Ornamental Mill for that matter.
 
The Woodworking Shows are back on track for this winter after being shut down 
for 3 years,  I will be doing turning demonstrations at the one in West 
Springfield Mass Jan 13-15 for the Western Mass Woodturners the only Club 
I’m still active with even though I’m 2 1/2 hours away.

Michael Kratky
On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
Did you do much with it Michael?Kind Regards, 
Timothy J. Ziegler



On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 6:04 AM Owner mailto:krat...@roadrunner.com)> wrote:

I still have the Router Crafter in its ent
Michael Kratky
On Dec 26, 2022, at 4:43 PM, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
 some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting 
the stops on the cable they make use
of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.
Bill













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Re: router crafter

2022-12-29 Thread Owner

Top of the morningTim,
No,  like my LOM 1200 I don’t use it, anyone in the my neck of the woods 
interested in them make me an offer.

Interestingly of all the Clubs I’ve belonged to over the years and all of the 
symposiums I’ve attended all over the country not a single woodworker or 
woodturner has ever mentioned the Router Crafter or even the Legacy Ornamental 
Mill for that matter.

The Woodworking Shows are back on track for this winter after being shut down 
for 3 years,  I will be doing turning demonstrations at the one in West 
Springfield Mass Jan 13-15 for the Western Mass Woodturners the only Club I’m 
still active with even though I’m 2 1/2 hours away.

Michael Kratky
119 Riverview Rd., 
Northville, N.Y. 12134

518 863-2821
text 518 207-7247

Email;
krat...@roadrunner.com



> On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> Did you do much with it Michael?
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 6:04 AM Owner  > wrote:
>> I still have the Router Crafter in its entirety bought it back in the 70’s.
>> 
>> 
>> Michael Kratky
>> 119 Riverview Rd., 
>> Northville, N.Y. 12134
>> 
>> 518 863-2821
>> text 518 207-7247
>> 
>> Email;
>> krat...@roadrunner.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 26, 2022, at 4:43 PM, >> > >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>>>  
>>> some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by 
>>> adjusting the stops on the cable they make use
>>> of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.
>>>  
>>> Bill
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Re: router crafter

2022-12-29 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 That's Funny Tim.  ;-)
C.A.G.
On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 12:19:33 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 you should get the mileage I get with my TRUCK, 12 mpg on a good day lol. Good 
thing I walk to work. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 8:39 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

 I like that Truck!One day I will get a toy like that !
But since I live 48 miles away from work, I need a car that gets GAS Mileage . 
I truck just can not do that. But one day...
C.A.G.
On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 05:09:52 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
 
https://www.whichcar.com.au/reviews/4x4oty/2017-4x4oty-winner-toyota-landcruiser-79-double-cab

  

This sort of thing is what is the go in the outback 

Carry on top or in the back it might not be the best in the world but its what 
is popular down here

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Mike Newman
Sent: Thursday, 29 December 2022 2:28 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: router crafter

  

Mine is closer to the bottom photo than the top.  2002 with 319,000 miles but 
it keeps plugging along.  I have hauled a bunch of stuff in it, on it, and 
behind it over the years.  

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 8:22:35 AM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:


Hey Bill

  

I think of it this way the "Suburban"  it the modern version of the  Station 
wagon .



C.A.G.

  

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 01:00:03 AM EST, M.W.Foscue 
 wrote: 

  

  

Bill,

 

A "Suburban" is not a pickup truck - here in the USA.

It is a stretched version of a Chevrolet Blazer/ a very large SUV.

It has 3 rows of seating - and no cargo "bed" area.  It has a pair of doors in 
the rear - opening left & right vs a tail gate and swing up window arrangement. 
 He was concerned he'd be able to get the Mill inside and still be able to 
close the rear doors.  Many of our states put chemicals on the roads to 
mitigate ice.  It results in LOTS of liquid being sucked up and spread in the 
air - like a mist. 

I am sure he does not want all that getting on the Mill (metal will quickly 
corrode).

 

Happy New Year!

Mac

-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Dec 27, 2022 10:48 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Hey Bill he maybe can. But driving through Minnesota or Wisc. This time of year 
with doors open is a bit frigid. lol  

I'm just explain that he did not need all the inside measurements, at this 
point he has the information he needs. 

Thanks 


Kind Regards, 

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 7:44 PM  wrote:


Answer me a question if he has a suburban picup truck why can’t you have the 
back gate open and hang the extra length out the back.

Or even tie to the top of the shut back gate with the other end in the back up 
against the back wall 

What don’t I know?

 

Bill


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Re: router crafter

2022-12-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
you should get the mileage I get with my TRUCK, 12 mpg on a good day lol.
Good thing I walk to work.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 8:39 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I like that Truck!
> One day I will get a toy like that !
>
> But since I live 48 miles away from work, I need a car that gets GAS
> Mileage . I truck just can not do that.
> But one day...
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 05:09:52 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> [image: Toyota -Landcruiser -79-dual -cab -ute -tray]
> https://www.whichcar.com.au/reviews/4x4oty/2017-4x4oty-winner-toyota-landcruiser-79-double-cab
>
>
>
> This sort of thing is what is the go in the outback
>
> Carry on top or in the back it might not be the best in the world but its
> what is popular down here
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Newman
> *Sent:* Thursday, 29 December 2022 2:28 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Mine is closer to the bottom photo than the top.  2002 with 319,000 miles
> but it keeps plugging along.  I have hauled a bunch of stuff in it, on it,
> and behind it over the years.
>
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 8:22:35 AM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:
>
> Hey Bill
>
>
>
> I think of it this way the "Suburban"  it the modern version of the  Station
> wagon .
>
> [image: Inline image]
> [image: Inline image]
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 01:00:03 AM EST, M.W.Foscue <
> mwfo...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
>
>
> A "Suburban" is not a pickup truck - here in the USA.
>
> It is a stretched version of a Chevrolet Blazer/ a very large SUV.
>
> It has 3 rows of seating - and no cargo "bed" area.  It has a pair of
> doors in the rear - opening left & right vs a tail gate and swing up window
> arrangement.  He was concerned he'd be able to get the Mill inside and
> still be able to close the rear doors.  Many of our states put chemicals on
> the roads to mitigate ice.  It results in LOTS of liquid being sucked up
> and spread in the air - like a mist.
>
> I am sure he does not want all that getting on the Mill (metal will
> quickly corrode).
>
>
>
> Happy New Year!
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Dec 27, 2022 10:48 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Hey Bill he maybe can. But driving through Minnesota or Wisc. This time of
> year with doors open is a bit frigid. lol
>
> I'm just explain that he did not need all the inside measurements, at this
> point he has the information he needs.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
> --
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 7:44 PM  wrote:
>
> Answer me a question if he has a suburban picup truck why can’t you have
> the back gate open and hang the extra length out the back.
>
> Or even tie to the top of the shut back gate with the other end in the
> back up against the back wall 
>
> What don’t I know?
>
>
>
> Bill
>
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Re: router crafter

2022-12-29 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 I like that Truck!One day I will get a toy like that !
But since I live 48 miles away from work, I need a car that gets GAS Mileage . 
I truck just can not do that. But one day...
C.A.G.
On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 05:09:52 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
 
https://www.whichcar.com.au/reviews/4x4oty/2017-4x4oty-winner-toyota-landcruiser-79-double-cab

  

This sort of thing is what is the go in the outback 

Carry on top or in the back it might not be the best in the world but its what 
is popular down here

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Mike Newman
Sent: Thursday, 29 December 2022 2:28 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: router crafter

  

Mine is closer to the bottom photo than the top.  2002 with 319,000 miles but 
it keeps plugging along.  I have hauled a bunch of stuff in it, on it, and 
behind it over the years.  

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 8:22:35 AM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:


Hey Bill

  

I think of it this way the "Suburban"  it the modern version of the  Station 
wagon .



C.A.G.

  

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 01:00:03 AM EST, M.W.Foscue 
 wrote: 

  

  

Bill,

 

A "Suburban" is not a pickup truck - here in the USA.

It is a stretched version of a Chevrolet Blazer/ a very large SUV.

It has 3 rows of seating - and no cargo "bed" area.  It has a pair of doors in 
the rear - opening left & right vs a tail gate and swing up window arrangement. 
 He was concerned he'd be able to get the Mill inside and still be able to 
close the rear doors.  Many of our states put chemicals on the roads to 
mitigate ice.  It results in LOTS of liquid being sucked up and spread in the 
air - like a mist. 

I am sure he does not want all that getting on the Mill (metal will quickly 
corrode).

 

Happy New Year!

Mac

-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Dec 27, 2022 10:48 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Hey Bill he maybe can. But driving through Minnesota or Wisc. This time of year 
with doors open is a bit frigid. lol  

I'm just explain that he did not need all the inside measurements, at this 
point he has the information he needs. 

Thanks 


Kind Regards, 

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 7:44 PM  wrote:


Answer me a question if he has a suburban picup truck why can’t you have the 
back gate open and hang the extra length out the back.

Or even tie to the top of the shut back gate with the other end in the back up 
against the back wall 

What don’t I know?

 

Bill


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Re: router crafter

2022-12-28 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yup it's what ever works right

On Wed, Dec 28, 2022, 4:09 PM  wrote:

> [image: Toyota -Landcruiser -79-dual -cab -ute -tray]
> https://www.whichcar.com.au/reviews/4x4oty/2017-4x4oty-winner-toyota-landcruiser-79-double-cab
>
>
>
> This sort of thing is what is the go in the outback
>
> Carry on top or in the back it might not be the best in the world but its
> what is popular down here
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Newman
> *Sent:* Thursday, 29 December 2022 2:28 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Mine is closer to the bottom photo than the top.  2002 with 319,000 miles
> but it keeps plugging along.  I have hauled a bunch of stuff in it, on it,
> and behind it over the years.
>
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 8:22:35 AM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:
>
> Hey Bill
>
>
>
> I think of it this way the "Suburban"  it the modern version of the  Station
> wagon .
>
> [image: Inline image]
> [image: Inline image]
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 01:00:03 AM EST, M.W.Foscue <
> mwfo...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
>
>
> A "Suburban" is not a pickup truck - here in the USA.
>
> It is a stretched version of a Chevrolet Blazer/ a very large SUV.
>
> It has 3 rows of seating - and no cargo "bed" area.  It has a pair of
> doors in the rear - opening left & right vs a tail gate and swing up window
> arrangement.  He was concerned he'd be able to get the Mill inside and
> still be able to close the rear doors.  Many of our states put chemicals on
> the roads to mitigate ice.  It results in LOTS of liquid being sucked up
> and spread in the air - like a mist.
>
> I am sure he does not want all that getting on the Mill (metal will
> quickly corrode).
>
>
>
> Happy New Year!
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Dec 27, 2022 10:48 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Hey Bill he maybe can. But driving through Minnesota or Wisc. This time of
> year with doors open is a bit frigid. lol
>
> I'm just explain that he did not need all the inside measurements, at this
> point he has the information he needs.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
> --
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 7:44 PM  wrote:
>
> Answer me a question if he has a suburban picup truck why can’t you have
> the back gate open and hang the extra length out the back.
>
> Or even tie to the top of the shut back gate with the other end in the
> back up against the back wall 
>
> What don’t I know?
>
>
>
> Bill
>
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RE: router crafter

2022-12-28 Thread bulkeley
 
https://www.whichcar.com.au/reviews/4x4oty/2017-4x4oty-winner-toyota-landcruiser-79-double-cab

 

This sort of thing is what is the go in the outback 

Carry on top or in the back it might not be the best in the world but its what 
is popular down here

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Mike Newman
Sent: Thursday, 29 December 2022 2:28 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Mine is closer to the bottom photo than the top.  2002 with 319,000 miles but 
it keeps plugging along.  I have hauled a bunch of stuff in it, on it, and 
behind it over the years.  

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 8:22:35 AM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:

Hey Bill

 

I think of it this way the "Suburban"  it the modern version of the  Station 
wagon .

  
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/2ab6d77abb4d6/1672237253130blob.jpg?part=0.1&view=1>
 
  
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/2ab6d77abb4d6/1672237321922blob.jpg?part=0.2&view=1>
 
C.A.G.

 

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 01:00:03 AM EST, M.W.Foscue 
mailto:mwfo...@earthlink.net> > wrote: 

 

 

Bill,

 

A "Suburban" is not a pickup truck - here in the USA.

It is a stretched version of a Chevrolet Blazer/ a very large SUV.

It has 3 rows of seating - and no cargo "bed" area.  It has a pair of doors in 
the rear - opening left & right vs a tail gate and swing up window arrangement. 
 He was concerned he'd be able to get the Mill inside and still be able to 
close the rear doors.  Many of our states put chemicals on the roads to 
mitigate ice.  It results in LOTS of liquid being sucked up and spread in the 
air - like a mist. 

I am sure he does not want all that getting on the Mill (metal will quickly 
corrode).

 

Happy New Year!

Mac


  _  


  _  


-Original Message-
From: mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
>
Sent: Dec 27, 2022 10:48 PM
To: mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Hey Bill he maybe can. But driving through Minnesota or Wisc. This time of year 
with doors open is a bit frigid. lol  

I'm just explain that he did not need all the inside measurements, at this 
point he has the information he needs. 

Thanks 


Kind Regards, 

 

Timothy J. Ziegler


  _  


  _  


On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 7:44 PM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Answer me a question if he has a suburban picup truck why can’t you have the 
back gate open and hang the extra length out the back.

Or even tie to the top of the shut back gate with the other end in the back up 
against the back wall 

What don’t I know?

 

Bill

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Re: router crafter

2022-12-28 Thread Mike Newman
Mine is closer to the bottom photo than the top.  2002 with 319,000 miles 
but it keeps plugging along.  I have hauled a bunch of stuff in it, on it, 
and behind it over the years.  

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 8:22:35 AM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:

> Hey Bill
>
> I think of it this way the "Suburban"  it the modern version of the  Station 
> wagon .
> [image: Inline image]
> [image: Inline image]
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 01:00:03 AM EST, M.W.Foscue <
> mwfo...@earthlink.net> wrote: 
>
>
> Bill,
>
>  
>
> A "Suburban" is not a pickup truck - here in the USA.
>
> It is a stretched version of a Chevrolet Blazer/ a very large SUV.
>
> It has 3 rows of seating - and no cargo "bed" area.  It has a pair of 
> doors in the rear - opening left & right vs a tail gate and swing up window 
> arrangement.  He was concerned he'd be able to get the Mill inside and 
> still be able to close the rear doors.  Many of our states put chemicals on 
> the roads to mitigate ice.  It results in LOTS of liquid being sucked up 
> and spread in the air - like a mist. 
>
> I am sure he does not want all that getting on the Mill (metal will 
> quickly corrode).
>
>  
>
> Happy New Year!
>
> Mac
> ----------
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Dec 27, 2022 10:48 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: router crafter
>
>  
> Hey Bill he maybe can. But driving through Minnesota or Wisc. This time of 
> year with doors open is a bit frigid. lol  
> I'm just explain that he did not need all the inside measurements, at this 
> point he has the information he needs. 
> Thanks 
> Kind Regards, 
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
> --
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 7:44 PM  wrote:
>
> Answer me a question if he has a suburban picup truck why can’t you have 
> the back gate open and hang the extra length out the back.
>
> Or even tie to the top of the shut back gate with the other end in the 
> back up against the back wall 
>
> What don’t I know?
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
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RE: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread M.W.Foscue
Bill,

Yep - when we go on vacation and the SUV is loaded with all our clothes & 
gear - that's where we have to kids ride.  They love the view - but hate the 
bugs in their face!
LoL!
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Dec 28, 2022 1:29 AM
To: 
Subject: RE: router crafter

Thank you mac now I understand. Might be time to put a roof rack on his car do 
you have them over there?
 
Bill
 
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Wednesday, 28 December 2022 4:55 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: router crafter


Bill,
 
A "Suburban" is not a pickup truck - here in the USA.
It is a stretched version of a Chevrolet Blazer/ a very large SUV.
It has 3 rows of seating - and no cargo "bed" area.  It has a pair of doors in 
the rear - opening left & right vs a tail gate and swing up window 
arrangement.  He was concerned he'd be able to get the Mill inside and still be 
able to close the rear doors.  Many of our states put chemicals on the roads to 
mitigate ice.  It results in LOTS of liquid being sucked up and spread in the 
air - like a mist. 
I am sure he does not want all that getting on the Mill (metal will quickly 
corrode).
 
Happy New Year!
Mac



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Sent: Dec 27, 2022 10:48 PM
To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)>
Subject: Re: router crafter

Hey Bill he maybe can. But driving through Minnesota or Wisc. This time of year 
with doors open is a bit frigid. lol 
I'm just explain that he did not need all the inside measurements, at this 
point he has the information he needs. 

Thanks 
Kind Regards,


Timothy J. Ziegler








On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 7:44 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote:

Answer me a question if he has a suburban picup truck why can’t you have 
the back gate open and hang the extra length out the back.
Or even tie to the top of the shut back gate with the other end in the back up 
against the back wall 
What don’t I know?
 
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RE: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread bulkeley
Thank you mac now I understand. Might be time to put a roof rack on his car do 
you have them over there?

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Wednesday, 28 December 2022 4:55 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Bill,

 

A "Suburban" is not a pickup truck - here in the USA.

It is a stretched version of a Chevrolet Blazer/ a very large SUV.

It has 3 rows of seating - and no cargo "bed" area.  It has a pair of doors in 
the rear - opening left & right vs a tail gate and swing up window arrangement. 
 He was concerned he'd be able to get the Mill inside and still be able to 
close the rear doors.  Many of our states put chemicals on the roads to 
mitigate ice.  It results in LOTS of liquid being sucked up and spread in the 
air - like a mist. 

I am sure he does not want all that getting on the Mill (metal will quickly 
corrode).

 

Happy New Year!

Mac

  _  

  _  

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Sent: Dec 27, 2022 10:48 PM
To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Hey Bill he maybe can. But driving through Minnesota or Wisc. This time of year 
with doors open is a bit frigid. lol  

I'm just explain that he did not need all the inside measurements, at this 
point he has the information he needs. 

Thanks 


Kind Regards, 

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

  _  

  _  

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Answer me a question if he has a suburban picup truck why can’t you have the 
back gate open and hang the extra length out the back.

Or even tie to the top of the shut back gate with the other end in the back up 
against the back wall 

What don’t I know?

 

Bill

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Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread M.W.Foscue
Bill,

A "Suburban" is not a pickup truck - here in the USA.
It is a stretched version of a Chevrolet Blazer/ a very large SUV.
It has 3 rows of seating - and no cargo "bed" area.  It has a pair of doors in 
the rear - opening left & right vs a tail gate and swing up window 
arrangement.  He was concerned he'd be able to get the Mill inside and still be 
able to close the rear doors.  Many of our states put chemicals on the roads to 
mitigate ice.  It results in LOTS of liquid being sucked up and spread in the 
air - like a mist. 
I am sure he does not want all that getting on the Mill (metal will quickly 
corrode).

Happy New Year!
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Dec 27, 2022 10:48 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: router crafter

Hey Bill he maybe can. But driving through Minnesota or Wisc. This time of year 
with doors open is a bit frigid. lol I'm just explain that he did not need all 
the inside measurements, at this point he has the information he needs. 
Thanks Kind Regards, 
Timothy J. Ziegler





On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 7:44 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote:
Answer me a question if he has a suburban picup truck why can’t you have 
the back gate open and hang the extra length out the back.
Or even tie to the top of the shut back gate with the other end in the back up 
against the back wall 
What don’t I know?
 
Bill





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Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread Tim Ziegler
How about the smell all day long Jeff right?
lol
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 7:51 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Ah yes, nothing like the smell of sawdust in the morning, lol.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:16 PM, Mike Newman  wrote:
>
> I am finding my search quite interesting.  Legacy did not seem to have
> good model designation/design control in place.  I have seen units with the
> same model number but different dimensional characteristics/features.  Also
> current owners selling the units seem to not be the original purchasing
> person or never used them personally so they have limited knowledge of
> exactly what they have to sell.  And to top that off the unit is not
> currently where they live so they cannot immediately answer basic questions
> about what is included or the overall size.  Throw a blizzard or two in the
> mix and it gets crazy to setup a road trip to buy one.  No worries the
> right machine/right price will become available if it supposed to.  If not
> for this group I would be much more frustrated and less confident in what I
> am looking for.  thanks for that.  The sawmill world I was apart of a few
> years ago was very similar.  Sawdust in any form can be very addictive.
>
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 6:03:39 PM UTC-6 Mike Newman wrote:
>
>> probably EXL because photos seemed to clearly show a unit longer than
>> std1200.
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:51:53 PM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Bill.
>>> He may have been looking at an 1000EXL. ?
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>>
>>>- model 1000EXS (40" capacity)
>>>- model 1000EX (60" capacity)
>>>- model 1000EXL (80" capacity)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 06:47:45 PM EST, 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> model 1000EX (60" capacity)  , model 1200 (72" capacity)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> references found here https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>> *On Behalf Of *Mike Newman
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:39 AM
>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have passed on the first unit in WI near Minneapolis since it appears
>>> to be a 1000ex.  To big to fit in my Suburban and I really don't want to
>>> pull my trailer and tarp a unit this time of year through salt/snow.  I am
>>> working on a couple of model 1200's(should fit in my suburban) currently in
>>> a few different states.  One loaded but higher price and the other less
>>> loaded and lower price.  Waiting to here more details on gears available
>>> for the lower priced one before I decide which road trip to possibly take.
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 9:07:03 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on
>>> a good Legacy.
>>>
>>> Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 5:16 PM Mike Newman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with
>>> original packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance
>>> between centers to use it, but the limitations in working distance are
>>> because of the wire drum that is used to move the sled.  without a major
>>> re-construct you are limited to about 28in of working length which is a
>>> problem for my primary intended use. That is what has me considering a
>>> legacy mill.
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:48:03 PM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>

Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey Bill he maybe can. But driving through Minnesota or Wisc. This time of
year with doors open is a bit frigid. lol
I'm just explain that he did not need all the inside measurements, at this
point he has the information he needs.
Thanks
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 7:44 PM  wrote:

> Answer me a question if he has a suburban picup truck why can’t you have
> the back gate open and hang the extra length out the back.
>
> Or even tie to the top of the shut back gate with the other end in the
> back up against the back wall 
>
> What don’t I know?
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 December 2022 12:16 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> ok but the only thing he was concerned about currently is how long overall
> the machines for hauling.
>
> As he has a suburban. That's why I went out and physically measured my
> machines.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 5:51 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Bill.
>
> He may have been looking at an 1000EXL. ?
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>- model 1000EXS (40" capacity)
>- model 1000EX (60" capacity)
>- model 1000EXL (80" capacity)
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 06:47:45 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> model 1000EX (60" capacity)  , model 1200 (72" capacity)
>
>
>
> references found here https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Newman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:39 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> I have passed on the first unit in WI near Minneapolis since it appears to
> be a 1000ex.  To big to fit in my Suburban and I really don't want to pull
> my trailer and tarp a unit this time of year through salt/snow.  I am
> working on a couple of model 1200's(should fit in my suburban) currently in
> a few different states.  One loaded but higher price and the other less
> loaded and lower price.  Waiting to here more details on gears available
> for the lower priced one before I decide which road trip to possibly take.
>
> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 9:07:03 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on a
> good Legacy.
>
> Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 5:16 PM Mike Newman  wrote:
>
> They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with
> original packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance
> between centers to use it, but the limitations in working distance are
> because of the wire drum that is used to move the sled.  without a major
> re-construct you are limited to about 28in of working length which is a
> problem for my primary intended use. That is what has me considering a
> legacy mill.
>
> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:48:03 PM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:
>
> Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 December 2022 8:55 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Great Video Bill,
>
>
>
> I actually almost bought one of those one time.
>
> I think for a cheap piece of equipment it had some serious potential.
>
> I am supposed to be able to do some spirals on the Vega duplicator but
>
> have never tried. I have Legacy's why bother right lol.
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>

Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread Rick Boeing
Curt George or should I refer to you as DR FRANENSTIN??

On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 9:51 PM Rick Boeing  wrote:

> Sweet Thanks
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 9:30 PM  wrote:
>
>> Ok rick let us know when you get back and we will help you, in the
>> meantime
>>
>> Have a study of these might help with both spirals
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://lwmcnc.com/cnc-systems/past-models/ornamental-mills/techniques/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4b-j9ZCE5E&t=9s&ab_channel=aussiman77181
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYAFmvMZcKU&t=21s&ab_channel=aussiman77181
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Rick Boeing
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 December 2022 1:16 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>>
>>
>>
>> Yea. Whatever was on the machine when I got it. I'm on holiday right now.
>> I'll look into it when I get back to the shop after NEW YEARS!!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 9:11 PM  wrote:
>>
>> 2 starts ok, but what pitch? If you don’t know tell us what gears you
>> used like standard gear set and the b drive gear ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Rick Boeing
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 December 2022 12:59 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>>
>>
>>
>> Just two starts.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 8:57 PM  wrote:
>>
>> Ok we need a bit more info which pic are we talking about ? what pitch
>> did you use ? and how many starts did your spiral have?
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Rick Boeing
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 December 2022 12:18 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey guys I started with that router crafter years and years ago. It's not
>> a bad, It's definitely limited. I remember dreaming of a lom. Now I have 2
>> and just fired the one up the other day for the first time. Definitely a
>> learning curve. My router crafter got stolen from my workbench. Bolted down
>> and everything. DRUGS ARE BAD. I did find another router crafter new in the
>> box for $100 and bought it but it's still in the box. What's up with the
>> backseat on bits is there a formula?? I turned a couple spirals just
>> getting my feet wet  and the spirals are different dimensions. Or was it
>> something else I did wrong? The first thing I did worked out perfect pic of
>> the pineapple. Showed it to my mom over Christmas she said it would make
>> an  awesome palm tree.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 7:16 PM Mike Newman  wrote:
>>
>> I am finding my search quite interesting.  Legacy did not seem to have
>> good model designation/design control in place.  I have seen units with the
>> same model number but different dimensional characteristics/features.  Also
>> current owners selling the units seem to not be the original purchasing
>> person or never used them personally so they have limited knowledge of
>> exactly what they have to sell.  And to top that off the unit is not
>> currently where they live so they cannot immediately answer basic questions
>> about what is included or the overall size.  Throw a blizzard or two in the
>> mix and it gets crazy to setup a road trip to buy one.  No worries the
>> right machine/right price will become available if it supposed to.  If not
>> for this group I would be much more frustrated and less confident in what I
>> am looking for.  thanks for that.  The sawmill world I was apart of a few
>> years ago was very similar.  Sawdust in any form can be very addictive.
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 6:03:39 PM UTC-6 Mike Newman wrote:
>>
>> probably EXL because photos seemed to clearly show a unit longer than
>> std1200.
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:51:53 PM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:
>>
>> Hey Bill.
>>
>> He may have been looking at an 1000EXL. ?

Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread Rick Boeing
Sweet Thanks

On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 9:30 PM  wrote:

> Ok rick let us know when you get back and we will help you, in the
> meantime
>
> Have a study of these might help with both spirals
>
>
>
>
>
> https://lwmcnc.com/cnc-systems/past-models/ornamental-mills/techniques/
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4b-j9ZCE5E&t=9s&ab_channel=aussiman77181
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYAFmvMZcKU&t=21s&ab_channel=aussiman77181
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Rick Boeing
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 December 2022 1:16 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Yea. Whatever was on the machine when I got it. I'm on holiday right now.
> I'll look into it when I get back to the shop after NEW YEARS!!
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 9:11 PM  wrote:
>
> 2 starts ok, but what pitch? If you don’t know tell us what gears you used
> like standard gear set and the b drive gear ?
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Rick Boeing
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 December 2022 12:59 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Just two starts.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 8:57 PM  wrote:
>
> Ok we need a bit more info which pic are we talking about ? what pitch did
> you use ? and how many starts did your spiral have?
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Rick Boeing
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 December 2022 12:18 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Hey guys I started with that router crafter years and years ago. It's not
> a bad, It's definitely limited. I remember dreaming of a lom. Now I have 2
> and just fired the one up the other day for the first time. Definitely a
> learning curve. My router crafter got stolen from my workbench. Bolted down
> and everything. DRUGS ARE BAD. I did find another router crafter new in the
> box for $100 and bought it but it's still in the box. What's up with the
> backseat on bits is there a formula?? I turned a couple spirals just
> getting my feet wet  and the spirals are different dimensions. Or was it
> something else I did wrong? The first thing I did worked out perfect pic of
> the pineapple. Showed it to my mom over Christmas she said it would make
> an  awesome palm tree.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 7:16 PM Mike Newman  wrote:
>
> I am finding my search quite interesting.  Legacy did not seem to have
> good model designation/design control in place.  I have seen units with the
> same model number but different dimensional characteristics/features.  Also
> current owners selling the units seem to not be the original purchasing
> person or never used them personally so they have limited knowledge of
> exactly what they have to sell.  And to top that off the unit is not
> currently where they live so they cannot immediately answer basic questions
> about what is included or the overall size.  Throw a blizzard or two in the
> mix and it gets crazy to setup a road trip to buy one.  No worries the
> right machine/right price will become available if it supposed to.  If not
> for this group I would be much more frustrated and less confident in what I
> am looking for.  thanks for that.  The sawmill world I was apart of a few
> years ago was very similar.  Sawdust in any form can be very addictive.
>
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 6:03:39 PM UTC-6 Mike Newman wrote:
>
> probably EXL because photos seemed to clearly show a unit longer than
> std1200.
>
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:51:53 PM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:
>
> Hey Bill.
>
> He may have been looking at an 1000EXL. ?
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>- model 1000EXS (40" capacity)
>- model 1000EX (60" capacity)
>- model 1000EXL (80" capacity)
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 06:47:45 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> model 1000EX (60" capacity)  , model 1200 (72" capacity)
>
>
>
> references found here https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Mike Newman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:39 AM
> *To:

RE: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread bulkeley
Ok rick let us know when you get back and we will help you, in the meantime 

Have a study of these might help with both spirals

 

 

https://lwmcnc.com/cnc-systems/past-models/ornamental-mills/techniques/

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4b-j9ZCE5E 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4b-j9ZCE5E&t=9s&ab_channel=aussiman77181> 
&t=9s&ab_channel=aussiman77181

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYAFmvMZcKU 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYAFmvMZcKU&t=21s&ab_channel=aussiman77181> 
&t=21s&ab_channel=aussiman77181

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Rick Boeing
Sent: Wednesday, 28 December 2022 1:16 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Yea. Whatever was on the machine when I got it. I'm on holiday right now. I'll 
look into it when I get back to the shop after NEW YEARS!!  

 

On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 9:11 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

2 starts ok, but what pitch? If you don’t know tell us what gears you used like 
standard gear set and the b drive gear ?

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Rick Boeing
Sent: Wednesday, 28 December 2022 12:59 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Just two starts. 

 

On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 8:57 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Ok we need a bit more info which pic are we talking about ? what pitch did you 
use ? and how many starts did your spiral have?

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Rick Boeing
Sent: Wednesday, 28 December 2022 12:18 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Hey guys I started with that router crafter years and years ago. It's not a 
bad, It's definitely limited. I remember dreaming of a lom. Now I have 2 and 
just fired the one up the other day for the first time. Definitely a learning 
curve. My router crafter got stolen from my workbench. Bolted down and 
everything. DRUGS ARE BAD. I did find another router crafter new in the box for 
$100 and bought it but it's still in the box. What's up with the backseat on 
bits is there a formula?? I turned a couple spirals just getting my feet wet  
and the spirals are different dimensions. Or was it something else I did wrong? 
The first thing I did worked out perfect pic of the pineapple. Showed it to my 
mom over Christmas she said it would make an  awesome palm tree.

 

On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 7:16 PM Mike Newman mailto:mrnewma...@outlook.com> > wrote:

I am finding my search quite interesting.  Legacy did not seem to have good 
model designation/design control in place.  I have seen units with the same 
model number but different dimensional characteristics/features.  Also current 
owners selling the units seem to not be the original purchasing person or never 
used them personally so they have limited knowledge of exactly what they have 
to sell.  And to top that off the unit is not currently where they live so they 
cannot immediately answer basic questions about what is included or the overall 
size.  Throw a blizzard or two in the mix and it gets crazy to setup a road 
trip to buy one.  No worries the right machine/right price will become 
available if it supposed to.  If not for this group I would be much more 
frustrated and less confident in what I am looking for.  thanks for that.  The 
sawmill world I was apart of a few years ago was very similar.  Sawdust in any 
form can be very addictive.

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 6:03:39 PM UTC-6 Mike Newman wrote:

probably EXL because photos seemed to clearly show a unit longer than std1200.  

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:51:53 PM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:

Hey Bill.

He may have been looking at an 1000EXL. ?

C.A.G.

 

*   model 1000EXS (40" capacity)
*   model 1000EX (60" capacity)
*   model 1000EXL (80" capacity)

 

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 06:47:45 PM EST, mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

model 1000EX (60" capacity)  , model 1200 (72" capacity) 

 

references found here https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Mike Newman
Sent: Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:39 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

I have passed on the first unit 

Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread Rick Boeing
Yea. Whatever was on the machine when I got it. I'm on holiday right now.
I'll look into it when I get back to the shop after NEW YEARS!!

On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 9:11 PM  wrote:

> 2 starts ok, but what pitch? If you don’t know tell us what gears you used
> like standard gear set and the b drive gear ?
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Rick Boeing
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 December 2022 12:59 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Just two starts.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 8:57 PM  wrote:
>
> Ok we need a bit more info which pic are we talking about ? what pitch did
> you use ? and how many starts did your spiral have?
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Rick Boeing
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 December 2022 12:18 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Hey guys I started with that router crafter years and years ago. It's not
> a bad, It's definitely limited. I remember dreaming of a lom. Now I have 2
> and just fired the one up the other day for the first time. Definitely a
> learning curve. My router crafter got stolen from my workbench. Bolted down
> and everything. DRUGS ARE BAD. I did find another router crafter new in the
> box for $100 and bought it but it's still in the box. What's up with the
> backseat on bits is there a formula?? I turned a couple spirals just
> getting my feet wet  and the spirals are different dimensions. Or was it
> something else I did wrong? The first thing I did worked out perfect pic of
> the pineapple. Showed it to my mom over Christmas she said it would make
> an  awesome palm tree.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 7:16 PM Mike Newman  wrote:
>
> I am finding my search quite interesting.  Legacy did not seem to have
> good model designation/design control in place.  I have seen units with the
> same model number but different dimensional characteristics/features.  Also
> current owners selling the units seem to not be the original purchasing
> person or never used them personally so they have limited knowledge of
> exactly what they have to sell.  And to top that off the unit is not
> currently where they live so they cannot immediately answer basic questions
> about what is included or the overall size.  Throw a blizzard or two in the
> mix and it gets crazy to setup a road trip to buy one.  No worries the
> right machine/right price will become available if it supposed to.  If not
> for this group I would be much more frustrated and less confident in what I
> am looking for.  thanks for that.  The sawmill world I was apart of a few
> years ago was very similar.  Sawdust in any form can be very addictive.
>
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 6:03:39 PM UTC-6 Mike Newman wrote:
>
> probably EXL because photos seemed to clearly show a unit longer than
> std1200.
>
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:51:53 PM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:
>
> Hey Bill.
>
> He may have been looking at an 1000EXL. ?
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>- model 1000EXS (40" capacity)
>- model 1000EX (60" capacity)
>- model 1000EXL (80" capacity)
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 06:47:45 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> model 1000EX (60" capacity)  , model 1200 (72" capacity)
>
>
>
> references found here https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Mike Newman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:39 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> I have passed on the first unit in WI near Minneapolis since it appears to
> be a 1000ex.  To big to fit in my Suburban and I really don't want to pull
> my trailer and tarp a unit this time of year through salt/snow.  I am
> working on a couple of model 1200's(should fit in my suburban) currently in
> a few different states.  One loaded but higher price and the other less
> loaded and lower price.  Waiting to here more details on gears available
> for the lower priced one before I decide which road trip to possibly take.
>
> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 9:07:03 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on a
> good Legacy.
>
> Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?
>
>
>

RE: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread bulkeley
2 starts ok, but what pitch? If you don’t know tell us what gears you used like 
standard gear set and the b drive gear ?

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Rick Boeing
Sent: Wednesday, 28 December 2022 12:59 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Just two starts. 

 

On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 8:57 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Ok we need a bit more info which pic are we talking about ? what pitch did you 
use ? and how many starts did your spiral have?

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Rick Boeing
Sent: Wednesday, 28 December 2022 12:18 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Hey guys I started with that router crafter years and years ago. It's not a 
bad, It's definitely limited. I remember dreaming of a lom. Now I have 2 and 
just fired the one up the other day for the first time. Definitely a learning 
curve. My router crafter got stolen from my workbench. Bolted down and 
everything. DRUGS ARE BAD. I did find another router crafter new in the box for 
$100 and bought it but it's still in the box. What's up with the backseat on 
bits is there a formula?? I turned a couple spirals just getting my feet wet  
and the spirals are different dimensions. Or was it something else I did wrong? 
The first thing I did worked out perfect pic of the pineapple. Showed it to my 
mom over Christmas she said it would make an  awesome palm tree.

 

On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 7:16 PM Mike Newman mailto:mrnewma...@outlook.com> > wrote:

I am finding my search quite interesting.  Legacy did not seem to have good 
model designation/design control in place.  I have seen units with the same 
model number but different dimensional characteristics/features.  Also current 
owners selling the units seem to not be the original purchasing person or never 
used them personally so they have limited knowledge of exactly what they have 
to sell.  And to top that off the unit is not currently where they live so they 
cannot immediately answer basic questions about what is included or the overall 
size.  Throw a blizzard or two in the mix and it gets crazy to setup a road 
trip to buy one.  No worries the right machine/right price will become 
available if it supposed to.  If not for this group I would be much more 
frustrated and less confident in what I am looking for.  thanks for that.  The 
sawmill world I was apart of a few years ago was very similar.  Sawdust in any 
form can be very addictive.

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 6:03:39 PM UTC-6 Mike Newman wrote:

probably EXL because photos seemed to clearly show a unit longer than std1200.  

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:51:53 PM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:

Hey Bill.

He may have been looking at an 1000EXL. ?

C.A.G.

 

*   model 1000EXS (40" capacity)
*   model 1000EX (60" capacity)
*   model 1000EXL (80" capacity)

 

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 06:47:45 PM EST, mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

model 1000EX (60" capacity)  , model 1200 (72" capacity) 

 

references found here https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Mike Newman
Sent: Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:39 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

I have passed on the first unit in WI near Minneapolis since it appears to be a 
1000ex.  To big to fit in my Suburban and I really don't want to pull my 
trailer and tarp a unit this time of year through salt/snow.  I am working on a 
couple of model 1200's(should fit in my suburban) currently in a few different 
states.  One loaded but higher price and the other less loaded and lower price. 
 Waiting to here more details on gears available for the lower priced one 
before I decide which road trip to possibly take.

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 9:07:03 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com 
<mailto:timjz...@gmail.com>  wrote:

Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on a good 
Legacy. 

Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 5:16 PM Mike Newman mailto:mrnew...@outlook.com> > wrote:

They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with original 
packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance between centers 
to use it, but the limitations in w

Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread Rick Boeing
Just two starts.

On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 8:57 PM  wrote:

> Ok we need a bit more info which pic are we talking about ? what pitch did
> you use ? and how many starts did your spiral have?
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Rick Boeing
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 December 2022 12:18 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Hey guys I started with that router crafter years and years ago. It's not
> a bad, It's definitely limited. I remember dreaming of a lom. Now I have 2
> and just fired the one up the other day for the first time. Definitely a
> learning curve. My router crafter got stolen from my workbench. Bolted down
> and everything. DRUGS ARE BAD. I did find another router crafter new in the
> box for $100 and bought it but it's still in the box. What's up with the
> backseat on bits is there a formula?? I turned a couple spirals just
> getting my feet wet  and the spirals are different dimensions. Or was it
> something else I did wrong? The first thing I did worked out perfect pic of
> the pineapple. Showed it to my mom over Christmas she said it would make
> an  awesome palm tree.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 7:16 PM Mike Newman  wrote:
>
> I am finding my search quite interesting.  Legacy did not seem to have
> good model designation/design control in place.  I have seen units with the
> same model number but different dimensional characteristics/features.  Also
> current owners selling the units seem to not be the original purchasing
> person or never used them personally so they have limited knowledge of
> exactly what they have to sell.  And to top that off the unit is not
> currently where they live so they cannot immediately answer basic questions
> about what is included or the overall size.  Throw a blizzard or two in the
> mix and it gets crazy to setup a road trip to buy one.  No worries the
> right machine/right price will become available if it supposed to.  If not
> for this group I would be much more frustrated and less confident in what I
> am looking for.  thanks for that.  The sawmill world I was apart of a few
> years ago was very similar.  Sawdust in any form can be very addictive.
>
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 6:03:39 PM UTC-6 Mike Newman wrote:
>
> probably EXL because photos seemed to clearly show a unit longer than
> std1200.
>
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:51:53 PM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:
>
> Hey Bill.
>
> He may have been looking at an 1000EXL. ?
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>- model 1000EXS (40" capacity)
>- model 1000EX (60" capacity)
>- model 1000EXL (80" capacity)
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 06:47:45 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> model 1000EX (60" capacity)  , model 1200 (72" capacity)
>
>
>
> references found here https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Mike Newman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:39 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> I have passed on the first unit in WI near Minneapolis since it appears to
> be a 1000ex.  To big to fit in my Suburban and I really don't want to pull
> my trailer and tarp a unit this time of year through salt/snow.  I am
> working on a couple of model 1200's(should fit in my suburban) currently in
> a few different states.  One loaded but higher price and the other less
> loaded and lower price.  Waiting to here more details on gears available
> for the lower priced one before I decide which road trip to possibly take.
>
> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 9:07:03 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on a
> good Legacy.
>
> Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 5:16 PM Mike Newman  wrote:
>
> They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with
> original packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance
> between centers to use it, but the limitations in working distance are
> because of the wire drum that is used to move the sled.  without a major
> re-construct you are limited to about 28in of working length which

RE: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread bulkeley
Ok we need a bit more info which pic are we talking about ? what pitch did you 
use ? and how many starts did your spiral have?

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Rick Boeing
Sent: Wednesday, 28 December 2022 12:18 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Hey guys I started with that router crafter years and years ago. It's not a 
bad, It's definitely limited. I remember dreaming of a lom. Now I have 2 and 
just fired the one up the other day for the first time. Definitely a learning 
curve. My router crafter got stolen from my workbench. Bolted down and 
everything. DRUGS ARE BAD. I did find another router crafter new in the box for 
$100 and bought it but it's still in the box. What's up with the backseat on 
bits is there a formula?? I turned a couple spirals just getting my feet wet  
and the spirals are different dimensions. Or was it something else I did wrong? 
The first thing I did worked out perfect pic of the pineapple. Showed it to my 
mom over Christmas she said it would make an  awesome palm tree.

 

On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 7:16 PM Mike Newman mailto:mrnewma...@outlook.com> > wrote:

I am finding my search quite interesting.  Legacy did not seem to have good 
model designation/design control in place.  I have seen units with the same 
model number but different dimensional characteristics/features.  Also current 
owners selling the units seem to not be the original purchasing person or never 
used them personally so they have limited knowledge of exactly what they have 
to sell.  And to top that off the unit is not currently where they live so they 
cannot immediately answer basic questions about what is included or the overall 
size.  Throw a blizzard or two in the mix and it gets crazy to setup a road 
trip to buy one.  No worries the right machine/right price will become 
available if it supposed to.  If not for this group I would be much more 
frustrated and less confident in what I am looking for.  thanks for that.  The 
sawmill world I was apart of a few years ago was very similar.  Sawdust in any 
form can be very addictive.

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 6:03:39 PM UTC-6 Mike Newman wrote:

probably EXL because photos seemed to clearly show a unit longer than std1200.  

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:51:53 PM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:

Hey Bill.

He may have been looking at an 1000EXL. ?

C.A.G.

 

*   model 1000EXS (40" capacity)
*   model 1000EX (60" capacity)
*   model 1000EXL (80" capacity)

 

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 06:47:45 PM EST, mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

model 1000EX (60" capacity)  , model 1200 (72" capacity) 

 

references found here https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Mike Newman
Sent: Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:39 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

I have passed on the first unit in WI near Minneapolis since it appears to be a 
1000ex.  To big to fit in my Suburban and I really don't want to pull my 
trailer and tarp a unit this time of year through salt/snow.  I am working on a 
couple of model 1200's(should fit in my suburban) currently in a few different 
states.  One loaded but higher price and the other less loaded and lower price. 
 Waiting to here more details on gears available for the lower priced one 
before I decide which road trip to possibly take.

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 9:07:03 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com 
<mailto:timjz...@gmail.com>  wrote:

Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on a good 
Legacy. 

Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 5:16 PM Mike Newman mailto:mrnew...@outlook.com> > wrote:

They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with original 
packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance between centers 
to use it, but the limitations in working distance are because of the wire drum 
that is used to move the sled.  without a major re-construct you are limited to 
about 28in of working length which is a problem for my primary intended use. 
That is what has me considering a legacy mill.

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:48:03 PM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:

Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 27 December 2022 8:55 AM
To: legacy-or

Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Very Nice Rick.
Keep up the Good work.
C.A.G.
On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 08:18:47 PM EST, Rick Boeing 
 wrote:  
 
 Hey guys I started with that router crafter years and years ago. It's not a 
bad, It's definitely limited. I remember dreaming of a lom. Now I have 2 and 
just fired the one up the other day for the first time. Definitely a learning 
curve. My router crafter got stolen from my workbench. Bolted down and 
everything. DRUGS ARE BAD. I did find another router crafter new in the box for 
$100 and bought it but it's still in the box. What's up with the backseat on 
bits is there a formula?? I turned a couple spirals just getting my feet wet  
and the spirals are different dimensions. Or was it something else I did wrong? 
The first thing I did worked out perfect pic of the pineapple. Showed it to my 
mom over Christmas she said it would make an  awesome palm tree.
On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 7:16 PM Mike Newman  wrote:

I am finding my search quite interesting.  Legacy did not seem to have good 
model designation/design control in place.  I have seen units with the same 
model number but different dimensional characteristics/features.  Also current 
owners selling the units seem to not be the original purchasing person or never 
used them personally so they have limited knowledge of exactly what they have 
to sell.  And to top that off the unit is not currently where they live so they 
cannot immediately answer basic questions about what is included or the overall 
size.  Throw a blizzard or two in the mix and it gets crazy to setup a road 
trip to buy one.  No worries the right machine/right price will become 
available if it supposed to.  If not for this group I would be much more 
frustrated and less confident in what I am looking for.  thanks for that.  The 
sawmill world I was apart of a few years ago was very similar.  Sawdust in any 
form can be very addictive.

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 6:03:39 PM UTC-6 Mike Newman wrote:

probably EXL because photos seemed to clearly show a unit longer than std1200.  

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:51:53 PM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:

 Hey Bill.He may have been looking at an 1000EXL. ?C.A.G.
   
   - model 1000EXS (40" capacity)
   - model 1000EX (60" capacity)
   - model 1000EXL (80" capacity)

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 06:47:45 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
model 1000EX (60" capacity)  , model 1200 (72" capacity) 

  

references found here https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html

  

Bill

  

  

  

  

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Mike Newman
Sent: Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:39 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: router crafter

  

I have passed on the first unit in WI near Minneapolis since it appears to be a 
1000ex.  To big to fit in my Suburban and I really don't want to pull my 
trailer and tarp a unit this time of year through salt/snow.  I am working on a 
couple of model 1200's(should fit in my suburban) currently in a few different 
states.  One loaded but higher price and the other less loaded and lower price. 
 Waiting to here more details on gears available for the lower priced one 
before I decide which road trip to possibly take.

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 9:07:03 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:


Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on a good 
Legacy. 

Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?




Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 5:16 PM Mike Newman  wrote:


They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with original 
packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance between centers 
to use it, but the limitations in working distance are because of the wire drum 
that is used to move the sled.  without a major re-construct you are limited to 
about 28in of working length which is a problem for my primary intended use. 
That is what has me considering a legacy mill.

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:48:03 PM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:


Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 27 December 2022 8:55 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Great Video Bill,

 

I actually almost bought one of those one time. 

I think for a cheap piece of equipment it had some serious potential. 

I am supposed to be able to do some spirals on the Vega duplicator but

have never tried. I have Legacy's why bother right lol.

 

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 3:43 PM  wrote:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_ch

Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread Jeff Richmond
Just disassemble to help with the transport but take photos of everything first. The manuals are ok but photos sure help too.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 27, 2022, at 8:15 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:ok but the only thing he was concerned about currently is how long overall the machines for hauling. As he has a suburban. That's why I went out and physically measured my machines. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 5:51 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Hey Bill.He may have been looking at an 1000EXL. ?C.A.G.model 1000EXS (40" capacity)model 1000EX (60" capacity)model 1000EXL (80" capacity)





On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 06:47:45 PM EST,  <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:



model 1000EX (60" capacity)  , model 1200 (72" capacity)   references found here https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html  Bill        From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mike NewmanSent: Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:39 AMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: router crafter  I have passed on the first unit in WI near Minneapolis since it appears to be a 1000ex.  To big to fit in my Suburban and I really don't want to pull my trailer and tarp a unit this time of year through salt/snow.  I am working on a couple of model 1200's(should fit in my suburban) currently in a few different states.  One loaded but higher price and the other less loaded and lower price.  Waiting to here more details on gears available for the lower priced one before I decide which road trip to possibly take.On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 9:07:03 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on a good Legacy. Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?Kind Regards,  Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330  320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 5:16 PM Mike Newman <mrnew...@outlook.com> wrote:They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with original packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance between centers to use it, but the limitations in working distance are because of the wire drum that is used to move the sled.  without a major re-construct you are limited to about 28in of working length which is a problem for my primary intended use. That is what has me considering a legacy mill.On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:48:03 PM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant  Bill From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Tuesday, 27 December 2022 8:55 AMTo: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: router crafter Great Video Bill, I actually almost bought one of those one time. I think for a cheap piece of equipment it had some serious potential. I am supposed to be able to do some spirals on the Vega duplicator buthave never tried. I have Legacy's why bother right lol.  Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 3:43 PM <bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting the stops on the cable they make useof backlash to mill wider hollows interesting. Bill-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/01d91973%2412edd450%2438c97cf0%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLEYeJFviUOJkBP51%3DBq7ndpESbPMPc%2BOj9Yu_5dk1bzfA%40mail.gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion 

Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread Jeff Richmond
Ah yes, nothing like the smell of sawdust in the morning, lol.Jeff from ConnecticutSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 27, 2022, at 7:16 PM, Mike Newman  wrote:I am finding my search quite interesting.  Legacy did not seem to have good model designation/design control in place.  I have seen units with the same model number but different dimensional characteristics/features.  Also current owners selling the units seem to not be the original purchasing person or never used them personally so they have limited knowledge of exactly what they have to sell.  And to top that off the unit is not currently where they live so they cannot immediately answer basic questions about what is included or the overall size.  Throw a blizzard or two in the mix and it gets crazy to setup a road trip to buy one.  No worries the right machine/right price will become available if it supposed to.  If not for this group I would be much more frustrated and less confident in what I am looking for.  thanks for that.  The sawmill world I was apart of a few years ago was very similar.  Sawdust in any form can be very addictive.On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 6:03:39 PM UTC-6 Mike Newman wrote:probably EXL because photos seemed to clearly show a unit longer than std1200.  On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:51:53 PM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:
Hey Bill.He may have been looking at an 1000EXL. ?C.A.G.model 1000EXS (40" capacity)model 1000EX (60" capacity)model 1000EXL (80" capacity)





On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 06:47:45 PM EST,  <bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:



model 1000EX (60" capacity)  , model 1200 (72" capacity)   references found here https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html  Bill        From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mike NewmanSent: Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:39 AMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: router crafter  I have passed on the first unit in WI near Minneapolis since it appears to be a 1000ex.  To big to fit in my Suburban and I really don't want to pull my trailer and tarp a unit this time of year through salt/snow.  I am working on a couple of model 1200's(should fit in my suburban) currently in a few different states.  One loaded but higher price and the other less loaded and lower price.  Waiting to here more details on gears available for the lower priced one before I decide which road trip to possibly take.On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 9:07:03 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on a good Legacy. Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?Kind Regards,  Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330  320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 5:16 PM Mike Newman <mrnew...@outlook.com> wrote:They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with original packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance between centers to use it, but the limitations in working distance are because of the wire drum that is used to move the sled.  without a major re-construct you are limited to about 28in of working length which is a problem for my primary intended use. That is what has me considering a legacy mill.On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:48:03 PM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant  Bill From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Tuesday, 27 December 2022 8:55 AMTo: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: router crafter Great Video Bill, I actually almost bought one of those one time. I think for a cheap piece of equipment it had some serious potential. I am supposed to be able to do some spirals on the Vega duplicator buthave never tried. I have Legacy's why bother right lol.  Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 3:43 PM <bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting the stops on the cable they make useof backlash to mill wider hollows interesting. Bill-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/01d91973%2412edd450%2438c97cf0%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are s

RE: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread bulkeley
Answer me a question if he has a suburban picup truck why can’t you have the 
back gate open and hang the extra length out the back.

Or even tie to the top of the shut back gate with the other end in the back up 
against the back wall 

What don’t I know?

 

Bill 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, 28 December 2022 12:16 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

ok but the only thing he was concerned about currently is how long overall the 
machines for hauling. 

As he has a suburban. That's why I went out and physically measured my 
machines. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 5:51 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hey Bill.

He may have been looking at an 1000EXL. ?

C.A.G.

 

*   model 1000EXS (40" capacity)
*   model 1000EX (60" capacity)
*   model 1000EXL (80" capacity)

 

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 06:47:45 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

model 1000EX (60" capacity)  , model 1200 (72" capacity) 

 

references found here https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike Newman
Sent: Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:39 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

I have passed on the first unit in WI near Minneapolis since it appears to be a 
1000ex.  To big to fit in my Suburban and I really don't want to pull my 
trailer and tarp a unit this time of year through salt/snow.  I am working on a 
couple of model 1200's(should fit in my suburban) currently in a few different 
states.  One loaded but higher price and the other less loaded and lower price. 
 Waiting to here more details on gears available for the lower priced one 
before I decide which road trip to possibly take.

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 9:07:03 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com 
<mailto:timjz...@gmail.com>  wrote:

Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on a good 
Legacy. 

Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 5:16 PM Mike Newman mailto:mrnew...@outlook.com> > wrote:

They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with original 
packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance between centers 
to use it, but the limitations in working distance are because of the wire drum 
that is used to move the sled.  without a major re-construct you are limited to 
about 28in of working length which is a problem for my primary intended use. 
That is what has me considering a legacy mill.

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:48:03 PM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:

Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 27 December 2022 8:55 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Great Video Bill,

 

I actually almost bought one of those one time. 

I think for a cheap piece of equipment it had some serious potential. 

I am supposed to be able to do some spirals on the Vega duplicator but

have never tried. I have Legacy's why bother right lol.

 

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 3:43 PM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions>
 &v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions

 

some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting 
the stops on the cable they make use

of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.

 

Bill

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Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yeah I think we all dreamed about them when they come out. But now with the
LOM's not me.
Sorry to hear about the loss though.


Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 7:18 PM Rick Boeing 
wrote:

> Hey guys I started with that router crafter years and years ago. It's not
> a bad, It's definitely limited. I remember dreaming of a lom. Now I have 2
> and just fired the one up the other day for the first time. Definitely a
> learning curve. My router crafter got stolen from my workbench. Bolted down
> and everything. DRUGS ARE BAD. I did find another router crafter new in the
> box for $100 and bought it but it's still in the box. What's up with the
> backseat on bits is there a formula?? I turned a couple spirals just
> getting my feet wet  and the spirals are different dimensions. Or was it
> something else I did wrong? The first thing I did worked out perfect pic of
> the pineapple. Showed it to my mom over Christmas she said it would make
> an  awesome palm tree.
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 7:16 PM Mike Newman  wrote:
>
>> I am finding my search quite interesting.  Legacy did not seem to have
>> good model designation/design control in place.  I have seen units with the
>> same model number but different dimensional characteristics/features.  Also
>> current owners selling the units seem to not be the original purchasing
>> person or never used them personally so they have limited knowledge of
>> exactly what they have to sell.  And to top that off the unit is not
>> currently where they live so they cannot immediately answer basic questions
>> about what is included or the overall size.  Throw a blizzard or two in the
>> mix and it gets crazy to setup a road trip to buy one.  No worries the
>> right machine/right price will become available if it supposed to.  If not
>> for this group I would be much more frustrated and less confident in what I
>> am looking for.  thanks for that.  The sawmill world I was apart of a few
>> years ago was very similar.  Sawdust in any form can be very addictive.
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 6:03:39 PM UTC-6 Mike Newman wrote:
>>
>>> probably EXL because photos seemed to clearly show a unit longer than
>>> std1200.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:51:53 PM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Bill.
>>>> He may have been looking at an 1000EXL. ?
>>>> C.A.G.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>- model 1000EXS (40" capacity)
>>>>- model 1000EX (60" capacity)
>>>>- model 1000EXL (80" capacity)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 06:47:45 PM EST, 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> model 1000EX (60" capacity)  , model 1200 (72" capacity)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> references found here https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
>>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Newman
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:39 AM
>>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have passed on the first unit in WI near Minneapolis since it appears
>>>> to be a 1000ex.  To big to fit in my Suburban and I really don't want to
>>>> pull my trailer and tarp a unit this time of year through salt/snow.  I am
>>>> working on a couple of model 1200's(should fit in my suburban) currently in
>>>> a few different states.  One loaded but higher price and the other less
>>>> loaded and lower price.  Waiting to here more details on gears available
>>>> for the lower priced one before I decide which road trip to possibly take.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 9:07:03 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on
>>>> a good Legacy.
>>>>
>>>> Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 

Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread Tim Ziegler
Thats the way I roll, to MIchael, if its meant to be it will come about.
Sometime I will tell you my whole story and how I got it to it. May be a
phone conversation though.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 6:16 PM Mike Newman  wrote:

> I am finding my search quite interesting.  Legacy did not seem to have
> good model designation/design control in place.  I have seen units with the
> same model number but different dimensional characteristics/features.  Also
> current owners selling the units seem to not be the original purchasing
> person or never used them personally so they have limited knowledge of
> exactly what they have to sell.  And to top that off the unit is not
> currently where they live so they cannot immediately answer basic questions
> about what is included or the overall size.  Throw a blizzard or two in the
> mix and it gets crazy to setup a road trip to buy one.  No worries the
> right machine/right price will become available if it supposed to.  If not
> for this group I would be much more frustrated and less confident in what I
> am looking for.  thanks for that.  The sawmill world I was apart of a few
> years ago was very similar.  Sawdust in any form can be very addictive.
>
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 6:03:39 PM UTC-6 Mike Newman wrote:
>
>> probably EXL because photos seemed to clearly show a unit longer than
>> std1200.
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:51:53 PM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Bill.
>>> He may have been looking at an 1000EXL. ?
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>>
>>>- model 1000EXS (40" capacity)
>>>- model 1000EX (60" capacity)
>>>- model 1000EXL (80" capacity)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 06:47:45 PM EST, 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> model 1000EX (60" capacity)  , model 1200 (72" capacity)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> references found here https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>> *On Behalf Of *Mike Newman
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:39 AM
>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have passed on the first unit in WI near Minneapolis since it appears
>>> to be a 1000ex.  To big to fit in my Suburban and I really don't want to
>>> pull my trailer and tarp a unit this time of year through salt/snow.  I am
>>> working on a couple of model 1200's(should fit in my suburban) currently in
>>> a few different states.  One loaded but higher price and the other less
>>> loaded and lower price.  Waiting to here more details on gears available
>>> for the lower priced one before I decide which road trip to possibly take.
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 9:07:03 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on
>>> a good Legacy.
>>>
>>> Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 5:16 PM Mike Newman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with
>>> original packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance
>>> between centers to use it, but the limitations in working distance are
>>> because of the wire drum that is used to move the sled.  without a major
>>> re-construct you are limited to about 28in of working length which is a
>>> problem for my primary intended use. That is what has me considering a
>>> legacy mill.
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:48:03 PM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@g

Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread Tim Ziegler
exactly.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 6:03 PM Mike Newman  wrote:

> probably EXL because photos seemed to clearly show a unit longer than
> std1200.
>
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:51:53 PM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:
>
>> Hey Bill.
>> He may have been looking at an 1000EXL. ?
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>
>>- model 1000EXS (40" capacity)
>>- model 1000EX (60" capacity)
>>- model 1000EXL (80" capacity)
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 06:47:45 PM EST, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> model 1000EX (60" capacity)  , model 1200 (72" capacity)
>>
>>
>>
>> references found here https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *Mike Newman
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:39 AM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>>
>>
>>
>> I have passed on the first unit in WI near Minneapolis since it appears
>> to be a 1000ex.  To big to fit in my Suburban and I really don't want to
>> pull my trailer and tarp a unit this time of year through salt/snow.  I am
>> working on a couple of model 1200's(should fit in my suburban) currently in
>> a few different states.  One loaded but higher price and the other less
>> loaded and lower price.  Waiting to here more details on gears available
>> for the lower priced one before I decide which road trip to possibly take.
>>
>> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 9:07:03 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on a
>> good Legacy.
>>
>> Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 5:16 PM Mike Newman  wrote:
>>
>> They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with
>> original packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance
>> between centers to use it, but the limitations in working distance are
>> because of the wire drum that is used to move the sled.  without a major
>> re-construct you are limited to about 28in of working length which is a
>> problem for my primary intended use. That is what has me considering a
>> legacy mill.
>>
>> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:48:03 PM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:
>>
>> Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 December 2022 8:55 AM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>>
>>
>>
>> Great Video Bill,
>>
>>
>>
>> I actually almost bought one of those one time.
>>
>> I think for a cheap piece of equipment it had some serious potential.
>>
>> I am supposed to be able to do some spirals on the Vega duplicator but
>>
>> have never tried. I have Legacy's why bother right lol.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 3:43 PM  wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>>
>>
>>
>> some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by
>> adjusting the stops on the cable they make use
>>
>> of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> --
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>> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.
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Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread Tim Ziegler
ok but the only thing he was concerned about currently is how long overall
the machines for hauling.
As he has a suburban. That's why I went out and physically measured my
machines.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 5:51 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hey Bill.
> He may have been looking at an 1000EXL. ?
> C.A.G.
>
>
>- model 1000EXS (40" capacity)
>- model 1000EX (60" capacity)
>- model 1000EXL (80" capacity)
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 06:47:45 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> model 1000EX (60" capacity)  , model 1200 (72" capacity)
>
>
>
> references found here https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Newman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:39 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> I have passed on the first unit in WI near Minneapolis since it appears to
> be a 1000ex.  To big to fit in my Suburban and I really don't want to pull
> my trailer and tarp a unit this time of year through salt/snow.  I am
> working on a couple of model 1200's(should fit in my suburban) currently in
> a few different states.  One loaded but higher price and the other less
> loaded and lower price.  Waiting to here more details on gears available
> for the lower priced one before I decide which road trip to possibly take.
>
> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 9:07:03 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on a
> good Legacy.
>
> Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 5:16 PM Mike Newman  wrote:
>
> They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with
> original packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance
> between centers to use it, but the limitations in working distance are
> because of the wire drum that is used to move the sled.  without a major
> re-construct you are limited to about 28in of working length which is a
> problem for my primary intended use. That is what has me considering a
> legacy mill.
>
> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:48:03 PM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:
>
> Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 December 2022 8:55 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Great Video Bill,
>
>
>
> I actually almost bought one of those one time.
>
> I think for a cheap piece of equipment it had some serious potential.
>
> I am supposed to be able to do some spirals on the Vega duplicator but
>
> have never tried. I have Legacy's why bother right lol.
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 3:43 PM  wrote:
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>
>
>
> some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by
> adjusting the stops on the cable they make use
>
> of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
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Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread Tim Ziegler
yup just keep us posted. We really want you to join the legacy family.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 4:38 PM Mike Newman  wrote:

> I have passed on the first unit in WI near Minneapolis since it appears to
> be a 1000ex.  To big to fit in my Suburban and I really don't want to pull
> my trailer and tarp a unit this time of year through salt/snow.  I am
> working on a couple of model 1200's(should fit in my suburban) currently in
> a few different states.  One loaded but higher price and the other less
> loaded and lower price.  Waiting to here more details on gears available
> for the lower priced one before I decide which road trip to possibly take.
>
> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 9:07:03 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on a
>> good Legacy.
>> Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 5:16 PM Mike Newman  wrote:
>>
>>> They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with
>>> original packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance
>>> between centers to use it, but the limitations in working distance are
>>> because of the wire drum that is used to move the sled.  without a major
>>> re-construct you are limited to about 28in of working length which is a
>>> problem for my primary intended use. That is what has me considering a
>>> legacy mill.
>>> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:48:03 PM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
>>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 December 2022 8:55 AM
>>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Great Video Bill,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I actually almost bought one of those one time.
>>>>
>>>> I think for a cheap piece of equipment it had some serious potential.
>>>>
>>>> I am supposed to be able to do some spirals on the Vega duplicator but
>>>>
>>>> have never tried. I have Legacy's why bother right lol.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>>
>>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>>
>>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>>
>>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>>
>>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 3:43 PM  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by
>>>> adjusting the stops on the cable they make use
>>>>
>>>> of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>>> Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.
>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
>>>> an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.
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>>>> .
>>>

Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread Mike Newman
I am finding my search quite interesting.  Legacy did not seem to have good 
model designation/design control in place.  I have seen units with the same 
model number but different dimensional characteristics/features.  Also 
current owners selling the units seem to not be the original purchasing 
person or never used them personally so they have limited knowledge of 
exactly what they have to sell.  And to top that off the unit is not 
currently where they live so they cannot immediately answer basic questions 
about what is included or the overall size.  Throw a blizzard or two in the 
mix and it gets crazy to setup a road trip to buy one.  No worries the 
right machine/right price will become available if it supposed to.  If not 
for this group I would be much more frustrated and less confident in what I 
am looking for.  thanks for that.  The sawmill world I was apart of a few 
years ago was very similar.  Sawdust in any form can be very addictive.

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 6:03:39 PM UTC-6 Mike Newman wrote:

> probably EXL because photos seemed to clearly show a unit longer than 
> std1200.  
>
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:51:53 PM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:
>
>> Hey Bill.
>> He may have been looking at an 1000EXL. ?
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>
>>- model 1000EXS (40" capacity)
>>- model 1000EX (60" capacity)
>>- model 1000EXL (80" capacity)
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 06:47:45 PM EST,  
>> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> model 1000EX (60" capacity)  , model 1200 (72" capacity) 
>>
>>  
>>
>> references found here https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Mike Newman
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:39 AM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>>
>>  
>>
>> I have passed on the first unit in WI near Minneapolis since it appears 
>> to be a 1000ex.  To big to fit in my Suburban and I really don't want to 
>> pull my trailer and tarp a unit this time of year through salt/snow.  I am 
>> working on a couple of model 1200's(should fit in my suburban) currently in 
>> a few different states.  One loaded but higher price and the other less 
>> loaded and lower price.  Waiting to here more details on gears available 
>> for the lower priced one before I decide which road trip to possibly take.
>>
>> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 9:07:03 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on a 
>> good Legacy. 
>>
>> Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>  
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 5:16 PM Mike Newman  wrote:
>>
>> They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with 
>> original packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance 
>> between centers to use it, but the limitations in working distance are 
>> because of the wire drum that is used to move the sled.  without a major 
>> re-construct you are limited to about 28in of working length which is a 
>> problem for my primary intended use. That is what has me considering a 
>> legacy mill.
>>
>> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:48:03 PM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:
>>
>> Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 December 2022 8:55 AM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>>
>>  
>>
>> Great Video Bill,
>>
>>  
>>
>> I actually almost bought one of those one time. 
>>
>> I think for a cheap piece of equipment it had some serious potential. 
>>
>> I am supposed to be able to do some spirals on the Vega duplicator but
>>
>> have never tried. I have Legacy's why bother right lol.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>&

Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread Mike Newman
probably EXL because photos seemed to clearly show a unit longer than 
std1200.  

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:51:53 PM UTC-6 Curt George wrote:

> Hey Bill.
> He may have been looking at an 1000EXL. ?
> C.A.G.
>
>
>- model 1000EXS (40" capacity)
>- model 1000EX (60" capacity)
>- model 1000EXL (80" capacity)
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 06:47:45 PM EST,  
> wrote: 
>
>
> model 1000EX (60" capacity)  , model 1200 (72" capacity) 
>
>  
>
> references found here https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Mike Newman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:39 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>  
>
> I have passed on the first unit in WI near Minneapolis since it appears to 
> be a 1000ex.  To big to fit in my Suburban and I really don't want to pull 
> my trailer and tarp a unit this time of year through salt/snow.  I am 
> working on a couple of model 1200's(should fit in my suburban) currently in 
> a few different states.  One loaded but higher price and the other less 
> loaded and lower price.  Waiting to here more details on gears available 
> for the lower priced one before I decide which road trip to possibly take.
>
> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 9:07:03 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on a 
> good Legacy. 
>
> Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>  
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>  
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>  
>
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 5:16 PM Mike Newman  wrote:
>
> They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with 
> original packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance 
> between centers to use it, but the limitations in working distance are 
> because of the wire drum that is used to move the sled.  without a major 
> re-construct you are limited to about 28in of working length which is a 
> problem for my primary intended use. That is what has me considering a 
> legacy mill.
>
> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:48:03 PM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:
>
> Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant 
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 December 2022 8:55 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>  
>
> Great Video Bill,
>
>  
>
> I actually almost bought one of those one time. 
>
> I think for a cheap piece of equipment it had some serious potential. 
>
> I am supposed to be able to do some spirals on the Vega duplicator but
>
> have never tried. I have Legacy's why bother right lol.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>  
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>  
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 3:43 PM  wrote:
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>
>  
>
> some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by 
> adjusting the stops on the cable they make use
>
> of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
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RE: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread bulkeley
That was my thoughts, lots of confusion out there so I thought I would try and 
clear it up a bit

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Wednesday, 28 December 2022 10:52 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Hey Bill.

He may have been looking at an 1000EXL. ?

C.A.G.

 

*   model 1000EXS (40" capacity)
*   model 1000EX (60" capacity)
*   model 1000EXL (80" capacity)

 

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 06:47:45 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

model 1000EX (60" capacity)  , model 1200 (72" capacity) 

 

references found here https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike Newman
Sent: Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:39 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

I have passed on the first unit in WI near Minneapolis since it appears to be a 
1000ex.  To big to fit in my Suburban and I really don't want to pull my 
trailer and tarp a unit this time of year through salt/snow.  I am working on a 
couple of model 1200's(should fit in my suburban) currently in a few different 
states.  One loaded but higher price and the other less loaded and lower price. 
 Waiting to here more details on gears available for the lower priced one 
before I decide which road trip to possibly take.

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 9:07:03 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com 
<mailto:timjz...@gmail.com>  wrote:

Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on a good 
Legacy. 

Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 5:16 PM Mike Newman mailto:mrnew...@outlook.com> > wrote:

They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with original 
packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance between centers 
to use it, but the limitations in working distance are because of the wire drum 
that is used to move the sled.  without a major re-construct you are limited to 
about 28in of working length which is a problem for my primary intended use. 
That is what has me considering a legacy mill.

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:48:03 PM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:

Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 27 December 2022 8:55 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Great Video Bill,

 

I actually almost bought one of those one time. 

I think for a cheap piece of equipment it had some serious potential. 

I am supposed to be able to do some spirals on the Vega duplicator but

have never tried. I have Legacy's why bother right lol.

 

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 3:43 PM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions>
 &v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions

 

some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting 
the stops on the cable they make use

of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.

 

Bill

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Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Hey Bill.He may have been looking at an 1000EXL. ?C.A.G.
   
   - model 1000EXS (40" capacity)
   - model 1000EX (60" capacity)
   - model 1000EXL (80" capacity)

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 06:47:45 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
model 1000EX (60" capacity)  , model 1200 (72" capacity) 

  

references found here https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html

  

Bill

  

  

  

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Mike Newman
Sent: Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:39 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: router crafter

  

I have passed on the first unit in WI near Minneapolis since it appears to be a 
1000ex.  To big to fit in my Suburban and I really don't want to pull my 
trailer and tarp a unit this time of year through salt/snow.  I am working on a 
couple of model 1200's(should fit in my suburban) currently in a few different 
states.  One loaded but higher price and the other less loaded and lower price. 
 Waiting to here more details on gears available for the lower priced one 
before I decide which road trip to possibly take.

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 9:07:03 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:


Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on a good 
Legacy. 

Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?




Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 5:16 PM Mike Newman  wrote:


They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with original 
packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance between centers 
to use it, but the limitations in working distance are because of the wire drum 
that is used to move the sled.  without a major re-construct you are limited to 
about 28in of working length which is a problem for my primary intended use. 
That is what has me considering a legacy mill.

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:48:03 PM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:


Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 27 December 2022 8:55 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Great Video Bill,

 

I actually almost bought one of those one time. 

I think for a cheap piece of equipment it had some serious potential. 

I am supposed to be able to do some spirals on the Vega duplicator but

have never tried. I have Legacy's why bother right lol.

 

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 3:43 PM  wrote:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions

 

some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting 
the stops on the cable they make use

of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.

 

Bill

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RE: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread bulkeley
model 1000EX (60" capacity)  , model 1200 (72" capacity) 

 

references found here https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Mike Newman
Sent: Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:39 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

I have passed on the first unit in WI near Minneapolis since it appears to be a 
1000ex.  To big to fit in my Suburban and I really don't want to pull my 
trailer and tarp a unit this time of year through salt/snow.  I am working on a 
couple of model 1200's(should fit in my suburban) currently in a few different 
states.  One loaded but higher price and the other less loaded and lower price. 
 Waiting to here more details on gears available for the lower priced one 
before I decide which road trip to possibly take.

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 9:07:03 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com 
<mailto:timjz...@gmail.com>  wrote:

Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on a good 
Legacy. 

Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 5:16 PM Mike Newman mailto:mrnew...@outlook.com> > wrote:

They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with original 
packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance between centers 
to use it, but the limitations in working distance are because of the wire drum 
that is used to move the sled.  without a major re-construct you are limited to 
about 28in of working length which is a problem for my primary intended use. 
That is what has me considering a legacy mill.

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:48:03 PM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:

Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 27 December 2022 8:55 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Great Video Bill,

 

I actually almost bought one of those one time. 

I think for a cheap piece of equipment it had some serious potential. 

I am supposed to be able to do some spirals on the Vega duplicator but

have never tried. I have Legacy's why bother right lol.

 

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 3:43 PM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions>
 &v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions

 

some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting 
the stops on the cable they make use

of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.

 

Bill

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Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread Mike Newman
I have passed on the first unit in WI near Minneapolis since it appears to 
be a 1000ex.  To big to fit in my Suburban and I really don't want to pull 
my trailer and tarp a unit this time of year through salt/snow.  I am 
working on a couple of model 1200's(should fit in my suburban) currently in 
a few different states.  One loaded but higher price and the other less 
loaded and lower price.  Waiting to here more details on gears available 
for the lower priced one before I decide which road trip to possibly take.

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 9:07:03 PM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:

> Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on a 
> good Legacy. 
> Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 5:16 PM Mike Newman  wrote:
>
>> They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with 
>> original packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance 
>> between centers to use it, but the limitations in working distance are 
>> because of the wire drum that is used to move the sled.  without a major 
>> re-construct you are limited to about 28in of working length which is a 
>> problem for my primary intended use. That is what has me considering a 
>> legacy mill.
>> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:48:03 PM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:
>>
>>> Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 December 2022 8:55 AM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Great Video Bill,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I actually almost bought one of those one time. 
>>>
>>> I think for a cheap piece of equipment it had some serious potential. 
>>>
>>> I am supposed to be able to do some spirals on the Vega duplicator but
>>>
>>> have never tried. I have Legacy's why bother right lol.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 3:43 PM  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by 
>>> adjusting the stops on the cable they make use
>>>
>>> of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
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Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread Tim Ziegler
Did you do much with it Michael?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 6:04 AM Owner  wrote:

> I still have the Router Crafter in its entirety bought it back in the 70’s.
>
>
> Michael Kratky
> 119 Riverview Rd.,
> Northville, N.Y. 12134
>
> 518 863-2821
> text 518 207-7247
>
> Email;
> krat...@roadrunner.com
>
>
>
> On Dec 26, 2022, at 4:43 PM,  <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>
> some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by
> adjusting the stops on the cable they make use
> of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.
>
> Bill
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Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread Owner
I still have the Router Crafter in its entirety bought it back in the 70’s.


Michael Kratky
119 Riverview Rd., 
Northville, N.Y. 12134

518 863-2821
text 518 207-7247

Email;
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> On Dec 26, 2022, at 4:43 PM,   
> wrote:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>  
> some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting 
> the stops on the cable they make use
> of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.
>  
> Bill
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Re: router crafter

2022-12-27 Thread Tim Ziegler
oh but look at that shiny logo in the face of the machine Bill, is that not
enticing lol.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 10:07 PM  wrote:

> Well I’ll be lol I think I will pass it would be different if it was a
> revo lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 December 2022 2:34 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Low and behold look what I found on Market place tonight.
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/559945429210426/
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 6:37 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> And Yes.
>
>
>
> Linotec  Is a neat machine.
>
>
>
> [image: Inline image]
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 07:35:46 PM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> "CHEAT"?
>
>
>
> "O"My!.?  ;-p
>
>
>
> I DONT Cheat. I Modify! ;-)
>
>
>
> If the world hands you a Lemmon, the only thing that I can suggest is to
> Make Lemmon-Aid.
>
> Yes my Gear indexing dose do the same things, (But, I still need to make
> it look prettier.)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 07:28:23 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Well you got that covered with your mod curt, otherwise its back to
> legacys counting of threads.
>
> I do fine adjustments to the pitch by loosening the arm on the gear
> assembly and very carefully rotating
>
> One tooth of the index gear and retighten this is very useful for some
> times removing tear out
>
> Because the same cut again removes a slight amount off just one side of
> your spiral but you have to return it after
>
> That cut or your next start will be off a little, yes I cheat at times lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 December 2022 10:28 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Very Nice Video!
>
>
>
> One nice element of this machine is being able to dis-engage the headstock
> and index the part. I wish Legacy had thought of that, when making there
> machine!
>
>
>
> The quality of this video is very nice. NO words, but they get there point
> across, and still keep the info. fun to watch.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 05:10:00 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>
>
>
> some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by
> adjusting the stops on the cable they make use
>
> of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: router crafter

2022-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
yeah would be pretty cool to have lol..

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 9:53 PM RYAN JURGENS 
wrote:

> Hartland Wisconsin is just 40 minutes west of my place.
>
> If I was there and someone wanted it I would jog over there, but I am
> currently 7,500 miles away.
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> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 11:34 AM, Tim Ziegler
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> Low and behold look what I found on Market place tonight.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/559945429210426/
>
> Kind Regards,
>
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> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 6:37 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> And Yes.
>
> Linotec  Is a neat machine.
>
> [image: Inline image]
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 07:35:46 PM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> "CHEAT"?
>
> "O"My!.?  ;-p
>
> I DONT Cheat. I Modify! ;-)
>
> If the world hands you a Lemmon, the only thing that I can suggest is to
> Make Lemmon-Aid.
> Yes my Gear indexing dose do the same things, (But, I still need to make
> it look prettier.)
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 07:28:23 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Well you got that covered with your mod curt, otherwise its back to
> legacys counting of threads.
>
> I do fine adjustments to the pitch by loosening the arm on the gear
> assembly and very carefully rotating
>
> One tooth of the index gear and retighten this is very useful for some
> times removing tear out
>
> Because the same cut again removes a slight amount off just one side of
> your spiral but you have to return it after
>
> That cut or your next start will be off a little, yes I cheat at times lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 December 2022 10:28 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Very Nice Video!
>
>
>
> One nice element of this machine is being able to dis-engage the headstock
> and index the part. I wish Legacy had thought of that, when making there
> machine!
>
>
>
> The quality of this video is very nice. NO words, but they get there point
> across, and still keep the info. fun to watch.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 05:10:00 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>
>
>
> some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by
> adjusting the stops on the cable they make use
>
> of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.
>
>
>
> Bill
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RE: router crafter

2022-12-26 Thread bulkeley
Well I’ll be lol I think I will pass it would be different if it was a revo lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 27 December 2022 2:34 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Low and behold look what I found on Market place tonight. 

 

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/559945429210426/




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 6:37 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

And Yes.

 

Linotec  Is a neat machine.

 


C.A.G.

 

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 07:35:46 PM EST, Curt George 
mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com> > wrote: 

 

 

"CHEAT"? 

 

"O"My!.?  ;-p

 

I DONT Cheat. I Modify! ;-)

 

If the world hands you a Lemmon, the only thing that I can suggest is to Make 
Lemmon-Aid. 

Yes my Gear indexing dose do the same things, (But, I still need to make it 
look prettier.) 

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 07:28:23 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Well you got that covered with your mod curt, otherwise its back to legacys 
counting of threads.

I do fine adjustments to the pitch by loosening the arm on the gear assembly 
and very carefully rotating 

One tooth of the index gear and retighten this is very useful for some times 
removing tear out

Because the same cut again removes a slight amount off just one side of your 
spiral but you have to return it after

That cut or your next start will be off a little, yes I cheat at times lol

 

Bill  

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, 27 December 2022 10:28 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Very Nice Video!

 

One nice element of this machine is being able to dis-engage the headstock and 
index the part. I wish Legacy had thought of that, when making there machine!

 

The quality of this video is very nice. NO words, but they get there point 
across, and still keep the info. fun to watch.

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 05:10:00 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions>
 &v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions

 

some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting 
the stops on the cable they make use

of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.

 

Bill

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Re: router crafter

2022-12-26 Thread RYAN JURGENS
Hartland Wisconsin is just 40 minutes west of my place. 
If I was there and someone wanted it I would jog over there, but I am currently 
7,500 miles away.

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  On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 11:34 AM, Tim Ziegler wrote:   
Low and behold look what I found on Market place tonight. 
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/559945429210426/
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 6:37 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

 And Yes.
Linotec  Is a neat machine.

C.A.G.
On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 07:35:46 PM EST, Curt George 
 wrote:  
 
  "CHEAT"? 
"O"My!.?  ;-p
I DONT Cheat. I Modify! ;-)
If the world hands you a Lemmon, the only thing that I can suggest is to Make 
Lemmon-Aid. Yes my Gear indexing dose do the same things, (But, I still need to 
make it look prettier.) 
C.A.G.


On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 07:28:23 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
Well you got that covered with your mod curt, otherwise its back to legacys 
counting of threads.

I do fine adjustments to the pitch by loosening the arm on the gear assembly 
and very carefully rotating 

One tooth of the index gear and retighten this is very useful for some times 
removing tear out

Because the same cut again removes a slight amount off just one side of your 
spiral but you have to return it after

That cut or your next start will be off a little, yes I cheat at times lol

  

Bill  

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 27 December 2022 10:28 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: router crafter

  

Very Nice Video!

  

One nice element of this machine is being able to dis-engage the headstock and 
index the part. I wish Legacy had thought of that, when making there machine!

  

The quality of this video is very nice. NO words, but they get there point 
across, and still keep the info. fun to watch.

  

C.A.G. 

  

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 05:10:00 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
 wrote: 

  

  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions

 

some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting 
the stops on the cable they make use

of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.

 

Bill

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Re: router crafter

2022-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
Low and behold look what I found on Market place tonight.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/559945429210426/

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 6:37 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> And Yes.
>
> Linotec  Is a neat machine.
>
> [image: Inline image]
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 07:35:46 PM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> "CHEAT"?
>
> "O"My!.?  ;-p
>
> I DONT Cheat. I Modify! ;-)
>
> If the world hands you a Lemmon, the only thing that I can suggest is to
> Make Lemmon-Aid.
> Yes my Gear indexing dose do the same things, (But, I still need to make
> it look prettier.)
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 07:28:23 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Well you got that covered with your mod curt, otherwise its back to
> legacys counting of threads.
>
> I do fine adjustments to the pitch by loosening the arm on the gear
> assembly and very carefully rotating
>
> One tooth of the index gear and retighten this is very useful for some
> times removing tear out
>
> Because the same cut again removes a slight amount off just one side of
> your spiral but you have to return it after
>
> That cut or your next start will be off a little, yes I cheat at times lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 December 2022 10:28 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Very Nice Video!
>
>
>
> One nice element of this machine is being able to dis-engage the headstock
> and index the part. I wish Legacy had thought of that, when making there
> machine!
>
>
>
> The quality of this video is very nice. NO words, but they get there point
> across, and still keep the info. fun to watch.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 05:10:00 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>
>
>
> some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by
> adjusting the stops on the cable they make use
>
> of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
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Re: router crafter

2022-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
yup, work in progress always.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 6:35 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> "CHEAT"?
>
> "O"My!.?  ;-p
>
> I DONT Cheat. I Modify! ;-)
>
> If the world hands you a Lemmon, the only thing that I can suggest is to
> Make Lemmon-Aid.
> Yes my Gear indexing dose do the same things, (But, I still need to make
> it look prettier.)
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 07:28:23 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Well you got that covered with your mod curt, otherwise its back to
> legacys counting of threads.
>
> I do fine adjustments to the pitch by loosening the arm on the gear
> assembly and very carefully rotating
>
> One tooth of the index gear and retighten this is very useful for some
> times removing tear out
>
> Because the same cut again removes a slight amount off just one side of
> your spiral but you have to return it after
>
> That cut or your next start will be off a little, yes I cheat at times lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 December 2022 10:28 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Very Nice Video!
>
>
>
> One nice element of this machine is being able to dis-engage the headstock
> and index the part. I wish Legacy had thought of that, when making there
> machine!
>
>
>
> The quality of this video is very nice. NO words, but they get there point
> across, and still keep the info. fun to watch.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 05:10:00 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>
>
>
> some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by
> adjusting the stops on the cable they make use
>
> of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
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Re: router crafter

2022-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
Thats just being a master at solving problems Bill.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
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On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 6:20 PM  wrote:

> Well you got that covered with your mod curt, otherwise its back to
> legacys counting of threads.
>
> I do fine adjustments to the pitch by loosening the arm on the gear
> assembly and very carefully rotating
>
> One tooth of the index gear and retighten this is very useful for some
> times removing tear out
>
> Because the same cut again removes a slight amount off just one side of
> your spiral but you have to return it after
>
> That cut or your next start will be off a little, yes I cheat at times lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 December 2022 10:28 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Very Nice Video!
>
>
>
> One nice element of this machine is being able to dis-engage the headstock
> and index the part. I wish Legacy had thought of that, when making there
> machine!
>
>
>
> The quality of this video is very nice. NO words, but they get there point
> across, and still keep the info. fun to watch.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 05:10:00 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>
>
>
> some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by
> adjusting the stops on the cable they make use
>
> of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
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Re: router crafter

2022-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
Well Mike you will never go back to anything else getting your hands on a
good Legacy.
Any more on the one over in Wisconsin?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
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On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 5:16 PM Mike Newman  wrote:

> They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with
> original packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance
> between centers to use it, but the limitations in working distance are
> because of the wire drum that is used to move the sled.  without a major
> re-construct you are limited to about 28in of working length which is a
> problem for my primary intended use. That is what has me considering a
> legacy mill.
> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:48:03 PM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:
>
>> Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 December 2022 8:55 AM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>>
>>
>>
>> Great Video Bill,
>>
>>
>>
>> I actually almost bought one of those one time.
>>
>> I think for a cheap piece of equipment it had some serious potential.
>>
>> I am supposed to be able to do some spirals on the Vega duplicator but
>>
>> have never tried. I have Legacy's why bother right lol.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 3:43 PM  wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>>
>>
>>
>> some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by
>> adjusting the stops on the cable they make use
>>
>> of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
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Re: router crafter

2022-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yes they sure do.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
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On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 4:48 PM  wrote:

> Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 December 2022 8:55 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>
>
> Great Video Bill,
>
>
>
> I actually almost bought one of those one time.
>
> I think for a cheap piece of equipment it had some serious potential.
>
> I am supposed to be able to do some spirals on the Vega duplicator but
>
> have never tried. I have Legacy's why bother right lol.
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 3:43 PM  wrote:
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>
>
>
> some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by
> adjusting the stops on the cable they make use
>
> of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
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Re: router crafter

2022-12-26 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 And Yes.
Linotec  Is a neat machine.

C.A.G.
On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 07:35:46 PM EST, Curt George 
 wrote:  
 
  "CHEAT"? 
"O"My!.?  ;-p
I DONT Cheat. I Modify! ;-)
If the world hands you a Lemmon, the only thing that I can suggest is to Make 
Lemmon-Aid. Yes my Gear indexing dose do the same things, (But, I still need to 
make it look prettier.) 
C.A.G.


On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 07:28:23 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
Well you got that covered with your mod curt, otherwise its back to legacys 
counting of threads.

I do fine adjustments to the pitch by loosening the arm on the gear assembly 
and very carefully rotating 

One tooth of the index gear and retighten this is very useful for some times 
removing tear out

Because the same cut again removes a slight amount off just one side of your 
spiral but you have to return it after

That cut or your next start will be off a little, yes I cheat at times lol

  

Bill  

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 27 December 2022 10:28 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: router crafter

  

Very Nice Video!

  

One nice element of this machine is being able to dis-engage the headstock and 
index the part. I wish Legacy had thought of that, when making there machine!

  

The quality of this video is very nice. NO words, but they get there point 
across, and still keep the info. fun to watch.

  

C.A.G. 

  

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 05:10:00 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
 wrote: 

  

  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions

 

some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting 
the stops on the cable they make use

of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.

 

Bill

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Re: router crafter

2022-12-26 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 "CHEAT"? 
"O"My!.?  ;-p
I DONT Cheat. I Modify! ;-)
If the world hands you a Lemmon, the only thing that I can suggest is to Make 
Lemmon-Aid. Yes my Gear indexing dose do the same things, (But, I still need to 
make it look prettier.) 
C.A.G.


On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 07:28:23 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
Well you got that covered with your mod curt, otherwise its back to legacys 
counting of threads.

I do fine adjustments to the pitch by loosening the arm on the gear assembly 
and very carefully rotating 

One tooth of the index gear and retighten this is very useful for some times 
removing tear out

Because the same cut again removes a slight amount off just one side of your 
spiral but you have to return it after

That cut or your next start will be off a little, yes I cheat at times lol

  

Bill  

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 27 December 2022 10:28 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: router crafter

  

Very Nice Video!

  

One nice element of this machine is being able to dis-engage the headstock and 
index the part. I wish Legacy had thought of that, when making there machine!

  

The quality of this video is very nice. NO words, but they get there point 
across, and still keep the info. fun to watch.

  

C.A.G. 

  

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 05:10:00 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
 wrote: 

  

  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions

 

some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting 
the stops on the cable they make use

of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.

 

Bill

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RE: router crafter

2022-12-26 Thread bulkeley
Well you got that covered with your mod curt, otherwise its back to legacys 
counting of threads.

I do fine adjustments to the pitch by loosening the arm on the gear assembly 
and very carefully rotating 

One tooth of the index gear and retighten this is very useful for some times 
removing tear out

Because the same cut again removes a slight amount off just one side of your 
spiral but you have to return it after

That cut or your next start will be off a little, yes I cheat at times lol

 

Bill  

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 27 December 2022 10:28 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Very Nice Video!

 

One nice element of this machine is being able to dis-engage the headstock and 
index the part. I wish Legacy had thought of that, when making there machine!

 

The quality of this video is very nice. NO words, but they get there point 
across, and still keep the info. fun to watch.

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 05:10:00 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions>
 &v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions

 

some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting 
the stops on the cable they make use

of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.

 

Bill

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RE: router crafter

2022-12-26 Thread bulkeley
The legacy is a far superior machine by far, right from the start your not 
limited to just one spiral pitch.

(pitch is the distance the router bit travels with one 360 degree rotation of 
the work) for any that don’t know

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Mike Newman
Sent: Tuesday, 27 December 2022 10:17 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with original 
packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance between centers 
to use it, but the limitations in working distance are because of the wire drum 
that is used to move the sled.  without a major re-construct you are limited to 
about 28in of working length which is a problem for my primary intended use. 
That is what has me considering a legacy mill.

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:48:03 PM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:

Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 27 December 2022 8:55 AM
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Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Great Video Bill,

 

I actually almost bought one of those one time. 

I think for a cheap piece of equipment it had some serious potential. 

I am supposed to be able to do some spirals on the Vega duplicator but

have never tried. I have Legacy's why bother right lol.

 

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop 
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 &v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions

 

some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting 
the stops on the cable they make use

of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.

 

Bill

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Re: router crafter

2022-12-26 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Very Nice Video!
One nice element of this machine is being able to dis-engage the headstock and 
index the part. I wish Legacy had thought of that, when making there machine!
The quality of this video is very nice. NO words, but they get there point 
across, and still keep the info. fun to watch.
C.A.G. 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions

  

some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting 
the stops on the cable they make use

of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.

  

Bill
 

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Re: router crafter

2022-12-26 Thread Mike Newman
They definately are interesting.  I have a never used one still with 
original packaging/box in my workshop.  I was going to extend distance 
between centers to use it, but the limitations in working distance are 
because of the wire drum that is used to move the sled.  without a major 
re-construct you are limited to about 28in of working length which is a 
problem for my primary intended use. That is what has me considering a 
legacy mill.
On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:48:03 PM UTC-6 aussiman wrote:

> Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant 
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 December 2022 8:55 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: router crafter
>
>  
>
> Great Video Bill,
>
>  
>
> I actually almost bought one of those one time. 
>
> I think for a cheap piece of equipment it had some serious potential. 
>
> I am supposed to be able to do some spirals on the Vega duplicator but
>
> have never tried. I have Legacy's why bother right lol.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>  
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>  
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 3:43 PM  wrote:
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>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions
>
>  
>
> some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by 
> adjusting the stops on the cable they make use
>
> of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.
>
>  
>
> Bill
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RE: router crafter

2022-12-26 Thread bulkeley
Yes the legacy sort of makes them all redundant 

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 27 December 2022 8:55 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: router crafter

 

Great Video Bill,

 

I actually almost bought one of those one time. 

I think for a cheap piece of equipment it had some serious potential. 

I am supposed to be able to do some spirals on the Vega duplicator but

have never tried. I have Legacy's why bother right lol.

 

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop 
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 &v=iQhJS4MZ5nQ&ab_channel=A1-CustomFabricationSolutions

 

some interesting ideas here we could use. One interesting thing by adjusting 
the stops on the cable they make use

of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.

 

Bill

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Re: router crafter

2022-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
Great Video Bill,

I actually almost bought one of those one time.
I think for a cheap piece of equipment it had some serious potential.
I am supposed to be able to do some spirals on the Vega duplicator but
have never tried. I have Legacy's why bother right lol.


Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


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> adjusting the stops on the cable they make use
>
> of backlash to mill wider hollows interesting.
>
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>
> Bill
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