Re: 1000x steely = old post from me

2024-06-05 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Hey Bill,

He is working on getting pix.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 6:56 PM  wrote:

> Pics are always the best to offer things to sell I think
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 6, 2024 9:14 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: 1000x steely = old post from me
>
>
>
> Hey Ron,
>
>
>
> Was great talking to you about Jim's Steely. I will do what I can do to
> help you sell this machine and its components.
>
> Anyone has questions on the steely's I can answer some of the questions
> based on owning one myself. Otherwise several
>
> of the members have more knowledge than I do about them.
>
> Ron had suggested one could put aluminum rails on it to adapt to more of
> the newer versions.
>
> One of the features on the Steely I like is the raised head and tail
> stock. Functioning more like an actual lathe.
>
> Gives you so good access to what you're working. Does not stick up as high
> as my WoodChuck but still a very
>
> good amount.
>
> Ron will be posting pics again too.
>
> Anyone interested lets help Ron sell this machine and accessories.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 5:54 PM 4 Jim Carpenter 
> wrote:
>
> Just spent some time talking with Tim about selling by the part any of
> this stored unit.
>
> I have the unit stripped on a rolling table built with a chip collector,
> no vacuum, plunge router, printed Manual, some duplicate parts and odds and
> ends, gears, indexes,
>
> the 1 to 6 small disk and some extras, several old woodchuck gears,
> cutters to sell and
>
> ship USPO 12 - $18.00 boxes.  Request are welcome with your honest value
> with
>
> shipping. Believe all good condition so will start taking individual
> pieces and a note
>
> on point counts as some may be older versions of markings on the gears.
> Please for best response email rge...@att.net. May add on Facebook
> Marketplace ? Pictures will be of requested wants first within 3 days.
> Thanks for reading
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RE: 1000x steely = old post from me

2024-06-05 Thread bulkeley 
Pics are always the best to offer things to sell I think

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2024 9:14 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 1000x steely = old post from me

 

Hey Ron,

 

Was great talking to you about Jim's Steely. I will do what I can do to help 
you sell this machine and its components. 

Anyone has questions on the steely's I can answer some of the questions based 
on owning one myself. Otherwise several 

of the members have more knowledge than I do about them. 

Ron had suggested one could put aluminum rails on it to adapt to more of the 
newer versions. 

One of the features on the Steely I like is the raised head and tail stock. 
Functioning more like an actual lathe. 

Gives you so good access to what you're working. Does not stick up as high as 
my WoodChuck but still a very 

good amount. 

Ron will be posting pics again too. 

Anyone interested lets help Ron sell this machine and accessories. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 5:54 PM 4 Jim Carpenter mailto:carpenter.62...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Just spent some time talking with Tim about selling by the part any of this 
stored unit.

I have the unit stripped on a rolling table built with a chip collector, no 
vacuum, plunge router, printed Manual, some duplicate parts and odds and ends, 
gears, indexes, 

the 1 to 6 small disk and some extras, several old woodchuck gears, cutters to 
sell and 

ship USPO 12 - $18.00 boxes.  Request are welcome with your honest value with

shipping. Believe all good condition so will start taking individual pieces and 
a note 

on point counts as some may be older versions of markings on the gears. Please 
for best response email rge...@att.net <mailto:rge...@att.net> . May add on 
Facebook Marketplace ? Pictures will be of requested wants first within 3 days. 
Thanks for reading 

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RE: 1000x steely = old post from me

2024-06-05 Thread bulkeley 
If your mill has a motor and controllers I would be very interested in buying 
them

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of 4 Jim Carpenter
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2024 8:54 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: 1000x steely = old post from me

 

Just spent some time talking with Tim about selling by the part any of this 
stored unit.

I have the unit stripped on a rolling table built with a chip collector, no 
vacuum, plunge router, printed Manual, some duplicate parts and odds and ends, 
gears, indexes, 

the 1 to 6 small disk and some extras, several old woodchuck gears, cutters to 
sell and 

ship USPO 12 - $18.00 boxes.  Request are welcome with your honest value with

shipping. Believe all good condition so will start taking individual pieces and 
a note 

on point counts as some may be older versions of markings on the gears. Please 
for best response email rge...@att.net  . May add on 
Facebook Marketplace ? Pictures will be of requested wants first within 3 days. 
Thanks for reading 

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Re: 1000x steely = old post from me

2024-06-05 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Hey Ron,

Was great talking to you about Jim's Steely. I will do what I can do to
help you sell this machine and its components.
Anyone has questions on the steely's I can answer some of the questions
based on owning one myself. Otherwise several
of the members have more knowledge than I do about them.
Ron had suggested one could put aluminum rails on it to adapt to more of
the newer versions.
One of the features on the Steely I like is the raised head and tail stock.
Functioning more like an actual lathe.
Gives you so good access to what you're working. Does not stick up as high
as my WoodChuck but still a very
good amount.
Ron will be posting pics again too.
Anyone interested lets help Ron sell this machine and accessories.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 5:54 PM 4 Jim Carpenter 
wrote:

> Just spent some time talking with Tim about selling by the part any of
> this stored unit.
> I have the unit stripped on a rolling table built with a chip collector,
> no vacuum, plunge router, printed Manual, some duplicate parts and odds and
> ends, gears, indexes,
> the 1 to 6 small disk and some extras, several old woodchuck gears,
> cutters to sell and
> ship USPO 12 - $18.00 boxes.  Request are welcome with your honest value
> with
> shipping. Believe all good condition so will start taking individual
> pieces and a note
> on point counts as some may be older versions of markings on the gears.
> Please for best response email rge...@att.net. May add on Facebook
> Marketplace ? Pictures will be of requested wants first within 3 days.
> Thanks for reading
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Re: Weekend project Jun 3

2024-06-03 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Hey that looks pretty great Curt.
Nice job.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 2:38 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
>
> Just a short note telling everyone that I still am playing around with the
> Legacy.
> Here some of todays projects.
>
> the Brown handle is stacked leather, and the white is more of my cow bone
> turns.
>
> talk to you all more latter.
> Have a GREAT Day.
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: reeds and flutes

2024-06-03 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Good stuff Joe, thanks for your input too.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 8:22 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hey JOE!  ( I hope you are doing well?)
>
> Yes there is a world of difference for production tools and ones made for
> home use.
> The shaper unit that I saw first hand. (which looks like the one used in
> this video's.) had a pattern on the base, that the shaper followed. It
> could be a very dangerous tool.  That's why I promote the Legacy's version.
> (But I did enjoy seeing this video.) ;-)   The Legacy has some draw-back,
> and problems with some of the methods of use. but Bye far it is a safe tool
> when used as designed.
>
> Take care Joe.  Its nice to see you posting again. (I always enjoy your
> thoughts. Thank you.)
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
> On Monday, June 3, 2024 at 08:42:37 AM EDT, 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
> regarding the Youtube video and the technique this person is using, is the
> exact way we have been fluting and reeding on legs, finials, bedposts,
> stair balusters, etc. for over 30 years ... a French splindle shaper with
> an indexing device... and I have to disagree, this is a far better and
> faster method to do these types of cuts... unlike a Legacy, no templates
> are necessary... the spindle "rides" along the profile of the piece being
> worked on... you need a gentle touch when doing this, but it is easily
> mastered... the profile of the cut desired is easily done as you only need
> to grind one cutter... the knife is then locked into the center of the
> shaper spindle and most times extends past the face of the spindle usually
> no more than 1/4" to 3/8" when doing these types of "kiss" milling cuts...
> I will say that this method is better suited when doing production work(as
> the person in the video is doing) and this method was eliminated by OSHA a
> long time ago... the Legacy is excellent for small runs, but you will need
> to make a template... regards... Joe Biunno
>
> On Monday, June 3, 2024 at 6:52:05 AM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
> I watched a guitar player that only had his feet. No arms. He was
> actually  very good.
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Mel%C3%A9ndez#:~:text=Jos%C3%A9%20Antonio%20Mel%C3%A9ndez%20Rodr%C3%ADguez%20(born,the%20guitar%20with%20his%20feet
> .
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 10:11 PM  wrote:
>
> Its way beyond me I haven’t even seen my feet for 10 years  lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, June 3, 2024 12:52 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: reeds and flutes
>
>
>
> Yeah thinking I would need a hydraulic stool with a back rest.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 7:49 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Yes I enjoy those too.
>
> BUT getting anyone in the group to try use there feet with the Legacy,
> could be a hard sell. ;-p
>
>
>
> Have a good day.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, June 2, 2024 at 03:06:08 AM EDT,  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Yea I like other videos of him holding his wood lathe cutting tools with
> his feet
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 2, 2024 1:55 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: reeds and flutes
>
>
>
> Very Nice!
>
> Eye Candy for the Legacy user.
>
> OUR way is better. (although that guy most likely has done far more flutes
> that the average LOM user.) He did make it look easy.   ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, June 1, 2024 at 09:47:55 PM EDT, bulk...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3D0One7qsw_channel=Anyskill
>
>
>
> reeds and flutes on a spindle and you don’t have a legacy no problem lol
>
>

Re: reeds and flutes

2024-06-03 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Hey JOE!  ( I hope you are doing well?)
Yes there is a world of difference for production tools and ones made for home 
use.The shaper unit that I saw first hand. (which looks like the one used in 
this video's.) had a pattern on the base, that the shaper followed. It could be 
a very dangerous tool.  That's why I promote the Legacy's version. (But I did 
enjoy seeing this video.) ;-)   The Legacy has some draw-back, and problems 
with some of the methods of use. but Bye far it is a safe tool when used as 
designed.
Take care Joe.  Its nice to see you posting again. (I always enjoy your 
thoughts. Thank you.)
C.A.G.

On Monday, June 3, 2024 at 08:42:37 AM EDT, 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:  
 
 regarding the Youtube video and the technique this person is using, is the 
exact way we have been fluting and reeding on legs, finials, bedposts, stair 
balusters, etc. for over 30 years ... a French splindle shaper with an indexing 
device... and I have to disagree, this is a far better and faster method to do 
these types of cuts... unlike a Legacy, no templates are necessary... the 
spindle "rides" along the profile of the piece being worked on... you need a 
gentle touch when doing this, but it is easily mastered... the profile of the 
cut desired is easily done as you only need to grind one cutter... the knife is 
then locked into the center of the shaper spindle and most times extends past 
the face of the spindle usually no more than 1/4" to 3/8" when doing these 
types of "kiss" milling cuts... I will say that this method is better suited 
when doing production work(as the person in the video is doing) and this method 
was eliminated by OSHA a long time ago... the Legacy is excellent for small 
runs, but you will need to make a template... regards... Joe Biunno

On Monday, June 3, 2024 at 6:52:05 AM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:

I watched a guitar player that only had his feet. No arms. He was actually  
very good. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Mel%C3%A9ndez#:~:text=Jos%C3%A9%20Antonio%20Mel%C3%A9ndez%20Rodr%C3%ADguez%20(born,the%20guitar%20with%20his%20feet.
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell
On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 10:11 PM  wrote:


Its way beyond me I haven’t even seen my feet for 10 years  lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2024 12:52 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: reeds and flutes

 

Yeah thinking I would need a hydraulic stool with a back rest.

 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 7:49 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:


Yes I enjoy those too.

BUT getting anyone in the group to try use there feet with the Legacy, could be 
a hard sell. ;-p

 

Have a good day.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, June 2, 2024 at 03:06:08 AM EDT,  wrote: 

 

 

Yea I like other videos of him holding his wood lathe cutting tools with his 
feet

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 1:55 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: reeds and flutes

 

Very Nice!

Eye Candy for the Legacy user. 

OUR way is better. (although that guy most likely has done far more flutes that 
the average LOM user.) He did make it look easy.   ;-)

 

C.A.G.

On Saturday, June 1, 2024 at 09:47:55 PM EDT, bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
 wrote: 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3D0One7qsw_channel=Anyskill

 

reeds and flutes on a spindle and you don’t have a legacy no problem lol

 

Bill

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Re: reeds and flutes

2024-06-03 Thread 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
regarding the Youtube video and the technique this person is using, is the 
exact way we have been fluting and reeding on legs, finials, bedposts, 
stair balusters, etc. for over 30 years ... a French splindle shaper with 
an indexing device... and I have to disagree, this is a far better and 
faster method to do these types of cuts... unlike a Legacy, no templates 
are necessary... the spindle "rides" along the profile of the piece being 
worked on... you need a gentle touch when doing this, but it is easily 
mastered... the profile of the cut desired is easily done as you only need 
to grind one cutter... the knife is then locked into the center of the 
shaper spindle and most times extends past the face of the spindle usually 
no more than 1/4" to 3/8" when doing these types of "kiss" milling cuts... 
I will say that this method is better suited when doing production work(as 
the person in the video is doing) and this method was eliminated by OSHA a 
long time ago... the Legacy is excellent for small runs, but you will need 
to make a template... regards... Joe Biunno

On Monday, June 3, 2024 at 6:52:05 AM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:

> I watched a guitar player that only had his feet. No arms. He was 
> actually  very good. 
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Mel%C3%A9ndez#:~:text=Jos%C3%A9%20Antonio%20Mel%C3%A9ndez%20Rodr%C3%ADguez%20(born,the%20guitar%20with%20his%20feet
> .
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 10:11 PM  wrote:
>
>> Its way beyond me I haven’t even seen my feet for 10 years  lol
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Monday, June 3, 2024 12:52 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: reeds and flutes
>>
>>  
>>
>> Yeah thinking I would need a hydraulic stool with a back rest.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>  
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 7:49 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Yes I enjoy those too.
>>
>> BUT getting anyone in the group to try use there feet with the Legacy, 
>> could be a hard sell. ;-p
>>
>>  
>>
>> Have a good day.
>>
>>  
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Sunday, June 2, 2024 at 03:06:08 AM EDT,  
>> wrote: 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Yea I like other videos of him holding his wood lathe cutting tools with 
>> his feet
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 2, 2024 1:55 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: reeds and flutes
>>
>>  
>>
>> Very Nice!
>>
>> Eye Candy for the Legacy user. 
>>
>> OUR way is better. (although that guy most likely has done far more 
>> flutes that the average LOM user.) He did make it look easy.   ;-)
>>
>>  
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Saturday, June 1, 2024 at 09:47:55 PM EDT, bulk...@mmnet.com.au <
>> bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3D0One7qsw_channel=Anyskill
>>
>>  
>>
>> reeds and flutes on a spindle and you don’t have a legacy no problem lol
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
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Re: reeds and flutes

2024-06-03 Thread Tim Ziegler 
I watched a guitar player that only had his feet. No arms. He was actually
very good.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Mel%C3%A9ndez#:~:text=Jos%C3%A9%20Antonio%20Mel%C3%A9ndez%20Rodr%C3%ADguez%20(born,the%20guitar%20with%20his%20feet
.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 10:11 PM  wrote:

> Its way beyond me I haven’t even seen my feet for 10 years  lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, June 3, 2024 12:52 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: reeds and flutes
>
>
>
> Yeah thinking I would need a hydraulic stool with a back rest.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 7:49 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Yes I enjoy those too.
>
> BUT getting anyone in the group to try use there feet with the Legacy,
> could be a hard sell. ;-p
>
>
>
> Have a good day.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, June 2, 2024 at 03:06:08 AM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Yea I like other videos of him holding his wood lathe cutting tools with
> his feet
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 2, 2024 1:55 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: reeds and flutes
>
>
>
> Very Nice!
>
> Eye Candy for the Legacy user.
>
> OUR way is better. (although that guy most likely has done far more flutes
> that the average LOM user.) He did make it look easy.   ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, June 1, 2024 at 09:47:55 PM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3D0One7qsw_channel=Anyskill
>
>
>
> reeds and flutes on a spindle and you don’t have a legacy no problem lol
>
>
>
> Bill
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RE: reeds and flutes

2024-06-02 Thread bulkeley 
Its way beyond me I haven’t even seen my feet for 10 years  lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2024 12:52 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: reeds and flutes

 

Yeah thinking I would need a hydraulic stool with a back rest.

 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 7:49 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Yes I enjoy those too.

BUT getting anyone in the group to try use there feet with the Legacy, could be 
a hard sell. ;-p

 

Have a good day.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, June 2, 2024 at 03:06:08 AM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Yea I like other videos of him holding his wood lathe cutting tools with his 
feet

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 1:55 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: reeds and flutes

 

Very Nice!

Eye Candy for the Legacy user. 

OUR way is better. (although that guy most likely has done far more flutes that 
the average LOM user.) He did make it look easy.   ;-)

 

C.A.G.

On Saturday, June 1, 2024 at 09:47:55 PM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3D0One7qsw 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3D0One7qsw_channel=Anyskill> 
_channel=Anyskill

 

reeds and flutes on a spindle and you don’t have a legacy no problem lol

 

Bill

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Re: reeds and flutes

2024-06-02 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Yeah thinking I would need a hydraulic stool with a back rest.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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14171 160th Ave.
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On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 7:49 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Yes I enjoy those too.
> BUT getting anyone in the group to try use there feet with the Legacy,
> could be a hard sell. ;-p
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, June 2, 2024 at 03:06:08 AM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Yea I like other videos of him holding his wood lathe cutting tools with
> his feet
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 2, 2024 1:55 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: reeds and flutes
>
>
>
> Very Nice!
>
> Eye Candy for the Legacy user.
>
> OUR way is better. (although that guy most likely has done far more flutes
> that the average LOM user.) He did make it look easy.   ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, June 1, 2024 at 09:47:55 PM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3D0One7qsw_channel=Anyskill
>
>
>
> reeds and flutes on a spindle and you don’t have a legacy no problem lol
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: reeds and flutes

2024-06-02 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Yeah pretty intriguing for sure.

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On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 2:06 AM  wrote:

> Yea I like other videos of him holding his wood lathe cutting tools with
> his feet
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 2, 2024 1:55 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: reeds and flutes
>
>
>
> Very Nice!
>
> Eye Candy for the Legacy user.
>
> OUR way is better. (although that guy most likely has done far more flutes
> that the average LOM user.) He did make it look easy.   ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, June 1, 2024 at 09:47:55 PM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3D0One7qsw_channel=Anyskill
>
>
>
> reeds and flutes on a spindle and you don’t have a legacy no problem lol
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: reeds and flutes

2024-06-02 Thread Tim Ziegler 
for sure. I'm guessing thats his living.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 10:55 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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> Very Nice!
> Eye Candy for the Legacy user.
> OUR way is better. (although that guy most likely has done far more flutes
> that the average LOM user.) He did make it look easy.   ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
> On Saturday, June 1, 2024 at 09:47:55 PM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3D0One7qsw_channel=Anyskill
>
>
>
> reeds and flutes on a spindle and you don’t have a legacy no problem lol
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: reeds and flutes

2024-06-02 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Yes I enjoy those too.BUT getting anyone in the group to try use there feet 
with the Legacy, could be a hard sell. ;-p
Have a good day.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, June 2, 2024 at 03:06:08 AM EDT,  wrote:  
 
 
Yea I like other videos of him holding his wood lathe cutting tools with his 
feet

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 1:55 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: reeds and flutes

  

Very Nice!

Eye Candy for the Legacy user. 

OUR way is better. (although that guy most likely has done far more flutes that 
the average LOM user.) He did make it look easy.   ;-)

  

C.A.G.

On Saturday, June 1, 2024 at 09:47:55 PM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
 wrote: 

  

  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3D0One7qsw_channel=Anyskill

 

reeds and flutes on a spindle and you don’t have a legacy no problem lol

 

Bill

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RE: reeds and flutes

2024-06-02 Thread bulkeley 
Yea I like other videos of him holding his wood lathe cutting tools with his 
feet

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 1:55 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: reeds and flutes

 

Very Nice!

Eye Candy for the Legacy user. 

OUR way is better. (although that guy most likely has done far more flutes that 
the average LOM user.) He did make it look easy.   ;-)

 

C.A.G.

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<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3D0One7qsw 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3D0One7qsw_channel=Anyskill> 
_channel=Anyskill

 

reeds and flutes on a spindle and you don’t have a legacy no problem lol

 

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Re: reeds and flutes

2024-06-01 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Very Nice!Eye Candy for the Legacy user. OUR way is better. (although that guy 
most likely has done far more flutes that the average LOM user.) He did make it 
look easy.   ;-)
C.A.G.On Saturday, June 1, 2024 at 09:47:55 PM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
 wrote:  
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3D0One7qsw_channel=Anyskill

  

reeds and flutes on a spindle and you don’t have a legacy no problem lol

  

Bill
 

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Re: reeds and flutes

2024-06-01 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Excellent videos Bill.
Very cool
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
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320-294-5798 shop
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On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 8:47 PM  wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3D0One7qsw_channel=Anyskill
>
>
>
> reeds and flutes on a spindle and you don’t have a legacy no problem lol
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

2024-06-01 Thread Tim Ziegler 
yes Sir, grab the bull by the horns and get er done Bill. lol.
Kind Regards,

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On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 5:13 PM  wrote:

> Well done Tim now we will see what happens
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:43 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC
>
>
>
> Hey Curt and All,
>
>
>
> Just for fun I sent the seller a message, I asked for pics of his machine
> and if it have a drive and controls, also if he would
>
> ship or if its door pick up. Will see what he say's.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 7:33 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Guys!
>
>
>
> The Motto of the Yankee Trader comes to mind.  "Buyer Beware"
>
>
>
> Again this sale might be on the UP & Up. but...? its starting to sound
> more like something is WRONG.
>
> "Something smells Fishy here".
>
>
>
> I hope I'm wrong.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, June 1, 2024 at 07:06:38 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> exactly Sir
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 2:37 AM  wrote:
>
> Yea so without asking we will never know
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 1, 2024 12:43 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC
>
>
>
> No motor and controls on the one shown in the picture but he also said
> that one pictured is not his.
>
> lol
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 7:27 PM  wrote:
>
> If it had a motor and controllers on it I would be interested in paying
> half with someone and all I want is the motor and controllers off it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Ed Trevillian
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:29 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/share/ppXtnudodiXSe7qh/?mibextid=kL3p88
>
>
>
> He is Asking $650 on Facebook.
>
>
>
> Ed Trevillian
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RE: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

2024-06-01 Thread bulkeley 
Well done Tim now we will see what happens

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:43 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

 

Hey Curt and All,

 

Just for fun I sent the seller a message, I asked for pics of his machine and 
if it have a drive and controls, also if he would 

ship or if its door pick up. Will see what he say's. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 7:33 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hey Guys!

 

The Motto of the Yankee Trader comes to mind.  "Buyer Beware"

 

Again this sale might be on the UP & Up. but...? its starting to sound more 
like something is WRONG.

"Something smells Fishy here".

 

I hope I'm wrong.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, June 1, 2024 at 07:06:38 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

exactly Sir

 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 2:37 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yea so without asking we will never know 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 12:43 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

 

No motor and controls on the one shown in the picture but he also said that one 
pictured is not his. 

lol 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 7:27 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

If it had a motor and controllers on it I would be interested in paying half 
with someone and all I want is the motor and controllers off it

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ed Trevillian
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:29 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/ppXtnudodiXSe7qh/?mibextid=kL3p88 

 

He is Asking $650 on Facebook.

 

Ed Trevillian

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Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

2024-06-01 Thread Tim Ziegler 
I asked some questions so no worries. I will let you all know what I get
for replies.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 9:19 AM  wrote:

> I don’t have a clue guys.
>
> Just an FYI.
>
>
>
> *Ed Trevillian*
>
> edn...@gmail.com
>
> Cell 704-776-5591
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:43 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC
>
>
>
> I agree questions need to be asked
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 1, 2024 10:34 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC
>
>
>
> Hey Guys!
>
>
>
> The Motto of the Yankee Trader comes to mind.  "Buyer Beware"
>
>
>
> Again this sale might be on the UP & Up. but...? its starting to sound
> more like something is WRONG.
>
> "Something smells Fishy here".
>
>
>
> I hope I'm wrong.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, June 1, 2024 at 07:06:38 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> exactly Sir
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 2:37 AM  wrote:
>
> Yea so without asking we will never know
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 1, 2024 12:43 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC
>
>
>
> No motor and controls on the one shown in the picture but he also said
> that one pictured is not his.
>
> lol
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 7:27 PM  wrote:
>
> If it had a motor and controllers on it I would be interested in paying
> half with someone and all I want is the motor and controllers off it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Ed Trevillian
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:29 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/share/ppXtnudodiXSe7qh/?mibextid=kL3p88
>
>
>
> He is Asking $650 on Facebook.
>
>
>
> Ed Trevillian
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Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

2024-06-01 Thread Tim Ziegler 
just did Bill

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 7:43 AM  wrote:

> I agree questions need to be asked
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 1, 2024 10:34 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC
>
>
>
> Hey Guys!
>
>
>
> The Motto of the Yankee Trader comes to mind.  "Buyer Beware"
>
>
>
> Again this sale might be on the UP & Up. but...? its starting to sound
> more like something is WRONG.
>
> "Something smells Fishy here".
>
>
>
> I hope I'm wrong.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, June 1, 2024 at 07:06:38 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> exactly Sir
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 2:37 AM  wrote:
>
> Yea so without asking we will never know
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 1, 2024 12:43 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC
>
>
>
> No motor and controls on the one shown in the picture but he also said
> that one pictured is not his.
>
> lol
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 7:27 PM  wrote:
>
> If it had a motor and controllers on it I would be interested in paying
> half with someone and all I want is the motor and controllers off it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Ed Trevillian
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:29 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/share/ppXtnudodiXSe7qh/?mibextid=kL3p88
>
>
>
> He is Asking $650 on Facebook.
>
>
>
> Ed Trevillian
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Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

2024-06-01 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Hey Curt and All,

Just for fun I sent the seller a message, I asked for pics of his machine
and if it have a drive and controls, also if he would
ship or if its door pick up. Will see what he say's.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 7:33 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hey Guys!
>
> The Motto of the Yankee Trader comes to mind.  "Buyer Beware"
>
> Again this sale might be on the UP & Up. but...? its starting to sound
> more like something is WRONG.
> "Something smells Fishy here".
>
> I hope I'm wrong.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, June 1, 2024 at 07:06:38 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> exactly Sir
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 2:37 AM  wrote:
>
> Yea so without asking we will never know
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 1, 2024 12:43 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC
>
>
>
> No motor and controls on the one shown in the picture but he also said
> that one pictured is not his.
>
> lol
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 7:27 PM  wrote:
>
> If it had a motor and controllers on it I would be interested in paying
> half with someone and all I want is the motor and controllers off it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Ed Trevillian
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:29 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/share/ppXtnudodiXSe7qh/?mibextid=kL3p88
>
>
>
> He is Asking $650 on Facebook.
>
>
>
> Ed Trevillian
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RE: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

2024-06-01 Thread ednc20 
I don’t have a clue guys.

Just an FYI.

 

Ed Trevillian

 <mailto:edn...@gmail.com> edn...@gmail.com

Cell 704-776-5591

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:43 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

 

I agree questions need to be asked

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 10:34 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

 

Hey Guys!

 

The Motto of the Yankee Trader comes to mind.  "Buyer Beware"

 

Again this sale might be on the UP & Up. but...? its starting to sound more 
like something is WRONG.

"Something smells Fishy here".

 

I hope I'm wrong.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, June 1, 2024 at 07:06:38 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

exactly Sir

 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 2:37 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yea so without asking we will never know 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 12:43 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

 

No motor and controls on the one shown in the picture but he also said that one 
pictured is not his. 

lol 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 7:27 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

If it had a motor and controllers on it I would be interested in paying half 
with someone and all I want is the motor and controllers off it

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ed Trevillian
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:29 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/ppXtnudodiXSe7qh/?mibextid=kL3p88 

 

He is Asking $650 on Facebook.

 

Ed Trevillian

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RE: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

2024-06-01 Thread bulkeley 
I agree questions need to be asked

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 10:34 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

 

Hey Guys!

 

The Motto of the Yankee Trader comes to mind.  "Buyer Beware"

 

Again this sale might be on the UP & Up. but...? its starting to sound more 
like something is WRONG.

"Something smells Fishy here".

 

I hope I'm wrong.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, June 1, 2024 at 07:06:38 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

exactly Sir

 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 2:37 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yea so without asking we will never know 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 12:43 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

 

No motor and controls on the one shown in the picture but he also said that one 
pictured is not his. 

lol 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 7:27 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

If it had a motor and controllers on it I would be interested in paying half 
with someone and all I want is the motor and controllers off it

 

Bill

 

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mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ed Trevillian
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:29 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/ppXtnudodiXSe7qh/?mibextid=kL3p88 

 

He is Asking $650 on Facebook.

 

Ed Trevillian

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Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

2024-06-01 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Hey Guys!
The Motto of the Yankee Trader comes to mind.  "Buyer Beware"
Again this sale might be on the UP & Up. but...? its starting to sound more 
like something is WRONG."Something smells Fishy here".
I hope I'm wrong.
C.A.G.
On Saturday, June 1, 2024 at 07:06:38 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
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 exactly Sir 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 2:37 AM  wrote:


Yea so without asking we will never know 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 12:43 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

 

No motor and controls on the one shown in the picture but he also said that one 
pictured is not his. 

lol 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 7:27 PM  wrote:


If it had a motor and controllers on it I would be interested in paying half 
with someone and all I want is the motor and controllers off it

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of Ed Trevillian
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:29 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/ppXtnudodiXSe7qh/?mibextid=kL3p88 

 

He is Asking $650 on Facebook.

 

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Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

2024-06-01 Thread Tim Ziegler 
exactly Sir

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 2:37 AM  wrote:

> Yea so without asking we will never know
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 1, 2024 12:43 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC
>
>
>
> No motor and controls on the one shown in the picture but he also said
> that one pictured is not his.
>
> lol
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 7:27 PM  wrote:
>
> If it had a motor and controllers on it I would be interested in paying
> half with someone and all I want is the motor and controllers off it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Ed Trevillian
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:29 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/share/ppXtnudodiXSe7qh/?mibextid=kL3p88
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>
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> He is Asking $650 on Facebook.
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> Ed Trevillian
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RE: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

2024-06-01 Thread bulkeley 
Trouble is curt that pic is not the actual mill for sale 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 2:20 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

 

Hello Everyone.

 

What a bad photo!

What I do see is, there is a ball bearing headstock and acme screw supports.

there is legs and adjustable bed, newer ladder steps in the adjustment locks.

there is a dust bag inside the rails.

sellers remarks...

accessories include circular attachment already installed, vertical and 
horizontal brackets that install easily into body for different tasks...

 

IF someone is looking, I would ask for more photo's. 

The price is Fair, if not a little low, if everything is on the up & up? (Most 
people normally want more money then the tool is worth.) So I would ask more 
questions, and do some homework.

I would ask about the gears, (7 Drive gears and any duplex sets, Standard,.25, 
X2)

Best of luck to any who may want to buy this Legacy. At face value it looks 
like a good machine.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 10:43:41 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

No motor and controls on the one shown in the picture but he also said that one 
pictured is not his. 

lol 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 7:27 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

If it had a motor and controllers on it I would be interested in paying half 
with someone and all I want is the motor and controllers off it

 

Bill

 

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mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ed Trevillian
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:29 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/ppXtnudodiXSe7qh/?mibextid=kL3p88 

 

He is Asking $650 on Facebook.

 

Ed Trevillian

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RE: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

2024-06-01 Thread bulkeley 
Yea so without asking we will never know 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 12:43 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

 

No motor and controls on the one shown in the picture but he also said that one 
pictured is not his. 

lol 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

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If it had a motor and controllers on it I would be interested in paying half 
with someone and all I want is the motor and controllers off it

 

Bill

 

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mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ed Trevillian
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:29 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/ppXtnudodiXSe7qh/?mibextid=kL3p88 

 

He is Asking $650 on Facebook.

 

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Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

2024-05-31 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Hello Everyone.
What a bad photo!What I do see is, there is a ball bearing headstock and acme 
screw supports.there is legs and adjustable bed, newer ladder steps in the 
adjustment locks.there is a dust bag inside the rails.sellers 
remarks...accessories include circular attachment already installed, vertical 
and horizontal brackets that install easily into body for different tasks...

IF someone is looking, I would ask for more photo's. The price is Fair, if not 
a little low, if everything is on the up & up? (Most people normally want more 
money then the tool is worth.) So I would ask more questions, and do some 
homework.I would ask about the gears, (7 Drive gears and any duplex sets, 
Standard,.25, X2)Best of luck to any who may want to buy this Legacy. At face 
value it looks like a good machine.
C.A.G.
On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 10:43:41 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 No motor and controls on the one shown in the picture but he also said that 
one pictured is not his. lol 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 7:27 PM  wrote:


If it had a motor and controllers on it I would be interested in paying half 
with someone and all I want is the motor and controllers off it

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Ed Trevillian
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:29 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/ppXtnudodiXSe7qh/?mibextid=kL3p88 

 

He is Asking $650 on Facebook.

 

Ed Trevillian

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Re: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

2024-05-31 Thread Tim Ziegler 
No motor and controls on the one shown in the picture but he also said that
one pictured is not his.
lol
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 7:27 PM  wrote:

> If it had a motor and controllers on it I would be interested in paying
> half with someone and all I want is the motor and controllers off it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
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> *Sent:* Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:29 AM
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> *Subject:* Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/share/ppXtnudodiXSe7qh/?mibextid=kL3p88
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> He is Asking $650 on Facebook.
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RE: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

2024-05-31 Thread bulkeley 
If it had a motor and controllers on it I would be interested in paying half 
with someone and all I want is the motor and controllers off it

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of Ed Trevillian
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:29 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Legacy for sale, Mooresville NC

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/ppXtnudodiXSe7qh/?mibextid=kL3p88 

 

He is Asking $650 on Facebook.

 

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Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

2024-05-31 Thread Tim Ziegler 
The 1500 has the leg set with them too, is what I was told?
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 11:14 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
>
> Bill I think the  Legacy 1000ex is the same as the 1500 or the 1000 EXL
> the only differences are the length of the rail and the angle pitch charts.
> At the very least the 1000ex will get Chris in the ball park as for as
> understanding how the Legacy works.
> Thank you.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, May 30, 2024 at 06:00:35 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Got it thank you very much I might be wrong but I don’t think that manual
> is the manual Chris needs I think his mill is a 1500EXL or a 1000 EXL
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Bob Mark
> *Sent:* Friday, May 31, 2024 7:19 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
> I sent to your gmail address, see if it is there. Of course i can resend
> when i get back to my computer.
>
> Sent from Bob Mark's iPad
>
>
>
> On May 30, 2024, at 1:49 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hey Bill I sent him your address.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 3:39 PM  wrote:
>
> oops Ok try bulke...@mmnet.com.au I hit the wrong key on my email address
>  sorry
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> rdgbo...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Friday, May 31, 2024 2:04 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual
>
>
>
> Bill, not sure how to respond to you only. But, my email wouldn’t go
> through to this address. It said address not found. Any ideas?
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 29, 2024 11:22 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual
>
>
>
> Hi my I have a copy too my email address is bulke...@mmnet.com.au
>
> Regards Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Bob Mark
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 30, 2024 2:33 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual
>
>
>
> I have a manual circa 2006. If you send me an email address i will
> forward.. it is a out 300 mb.
>
> Sent from Bob Mark's iPad
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Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

2024-05-30 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Hello Everyone.
Bill I think the  Legacy 1000ex is the same as the 1500 or the 1000 EXL the 
only differences are the length of the rail and the angle pitch charts. At the 
very least the 1000ex will get Chris in the ball park as for as understanding 
how the Legacy works.Thank you.
C.A.G.
On Thursday, May 30, 2024 at 06:00:35 PM EDT,  
wrote:  
 
 
Got it thank you very much I might be wrong but I don’t think that manual is 
the manual Chris needs I think his mill is a 1500EXL or a 1000 EXL 

  

Bill

  

  

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Bob Mark
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2024 7:19 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

  

Bill,

I sent to your gmail address, see if it is there. Of course i can resend when i 
get back to my computer.

Sent from Bob Mark's iPad






On May 30, 2024, at 1:49 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:





Hey Bill I sent him your address. 




Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

  

On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 3:39 PM  wrote:


oops Ok try bulke...@mmnet.com.au I hit the wrong key on my email address  
sorry 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of rdgbo...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2024 2:04 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

 

Bill, not sure how to respond to you only. But, my email wouldn’t go through to 
this address. It said address not found. Any ideas?

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2024 11:22 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

 

Hi my I have a copy too my email address is bulke...@mmnet.com.au

Regards Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Bob Mark
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2024 2:33 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

 

I have a manual circa 2006. If you send me an email address i will forward.. 
it is a out 300 mb.

Sent from Bob Mark's iPad

 

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RE: Eccentric milling

2024-05-30 Thread bulkeley 
Sorry curt I missed this email the chuck I used in the video is called an orbit 
chuck they used to be made here in Australia 

But sadly are not made any more I bought the last one made they were ahead of 
their time.

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 11:49 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

Bill .

 

Who makes that off-set chuck that you use in the video?  

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 09:43:21 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks Curt it was fun to do

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:10 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

I am glad you re-posted this Bill.

 

I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

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<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus_channel=aussiman77181> 
_channel=aussiman77181 

 

this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I 
would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw the 
idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I did, 
always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.

this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for 
videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason

 

Bill

 

 

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RE: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

2024-05-30 Thread bulkeley 
Got it thank you very much I might be wrong but I don’t think that manual is 
the manual Chris needs I think his mill is a 1500EXL or a 1000 EXL 

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Bob Mark
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2024 7:19 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

 

Bill,

I sent to your gmail address, see if it is there. Of course i can resend when i 
get back to my computer.

Sent from Bob Mark's iPad





On May 30, 2024, at 1:49 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hey Bill I sent him your address. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 3:39 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

oops Ok try bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  I hit the 
wrong key on my email address  sorry 

 

Bill

 

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mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
rdgbo...@gmail.com <mailto:rdgbo...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2024 2:04 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

 

Bill, not sure how to respond to you only. But, my email wouldn’t go through to 
this address. It said address not found. Any ideas?

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2024 11:22 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

 

Hi my I have a copy too my email address is  <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au

Regards Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Bob Mark
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2024 2:33 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
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Subject: Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

 

I have a manual circa 2006. If you send me an email address i will forward.. 
it is a out 300 mb.

Sent from Bob Mark's iPad

 

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RE: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

2024-05-30 Thread bulkeley 
Ok thanks Tim

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2024 6:50 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

 

Hey Bill I sent him your address. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 3:39 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

oops Ok try bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  I hit the 
wrong key on my email address  sorry 

 

Bill

 

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mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Friday, May 31, 2024 2:04 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

 

Bill, not sure how to respond to you only. But, my email wouldn’t go through to 
this address. It said address not found. Any ideas?

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2024 11:22 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

 

Hi my I have a copy too my email address is  <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au

Regards Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Bob Mark
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2024 2:33 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

 

I have a manual circa 2006. If you send me an email address i will forward.. 
it is a out 300 mb.

Sent from Bob Mark's iPad

 

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Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

2024-05-30 Thread Bob Mark 
Bill,I sent to your gmail address, see if it is there. Of course i can resend when i get back to my computer.Sent from Bob Mark's iPadOn May 30, 2024, at 1:49 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Hey Bill I sent him your address. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Thu, May 30, 2024 at 3:39 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:oops Ok try bulke...@mmnet.com.au I hit the wrong key on my email address  sorry  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of rdgbo...@gmail.comSent: Friday, May 31, 2024 2:04 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual Bill, not sure how to respond to you only. But, my email wouldn’t go through to this address. It said address not found. Any ideas? From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.auSent: Wednesday, May 29, 2024 11:22 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual Hi my I have a copy too my email address is bulke...@mmnet.com.auRegards Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Bob MarkSent: Thursday, May 30, 2024 2:33 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual I have a manual circa 2006. If you send me an email address i will forward.. it is a out 300 mb.Sent from Bob Mark's iPad .-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/001c01dab2ab%2401635610%24042a0230%24%40gmail.com.



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Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

2024-05-30 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Hey Bill I sent him your address.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
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> Bill
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RE: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

2024-05-30 Thread bulkeley 
oops Ok try bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  I hit the 
wrong key on my email address  sorry 

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of rdgbo...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2024 2:04 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

 

Bill, not sure how to respond to you only. But, my email wouldn’t go through to 
this address. It said address not found. Any ideas?

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2024 11:22 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

 

Hi my I have a copy too my email address is  <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au

Regards Bill

 

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To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
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Subject: Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

 

I have a manual circa 2006. If you send me an email address i will forward.. 
it is a out 300 mb.

Sent from Bob Mark's iPad

 

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RE: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

2024-05-30 Thread rdgbob49 
Bill, not sure how to respond to you only. But, my email wouldn’t go through to 
this address. It said address not found. Any ideas?

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2024 11:22 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

 

Hi my I have a copy too my email address is  <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au

Regards Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of Bob Mark
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2024 2:33 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

 

I have a manual circa 2006. If you send me an email address i will forward.. 
it is a out 300 mb.

Sent from Bob Mark's iPad

 

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RE: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

2024-05-30 Thread bulkeley 
Hi my I have a copy too my email address is bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 

Regards Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Bob Mark
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2024 2:33 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

 

I have a manual circa 2006. If you send me an email address i will forward.. 
it is a out 300 mb.

Sent from Bob Mark's iPad





On May 29, 2024, at 9:09 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
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Hey Chris. 

 

I sent a note out.  If all goes well you should have your manual very soon.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 11:49:08 PM EDT, Chris Liska 
mailto:chriska...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

I'm still just looking for a complete manual. someone said they were in the 
archive, but i can't find that. i've also searched the conversation history 
with no luck.

On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 11:27:23 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:

Hello Chris.

As a little side bar to this ...   I for one would rather show you how to use 
your equipment/Legacy to get the most out of your machine, then sell all the 
parts. Once gone its gone.   

Your Legacy could be used to make one amazing machine, ONE that could be used 
with your CNC and or surpass your CNC capability's all together. All depending 
on your wants and needs/projects planned. 

 

If you are looking to make money with your Legacy, I would suggest to talk to 
Mike Pung.  He made a very good living using his Wood Chuck Mill. (the early 
model Legacy LOM.) Here are some of his videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqZZkCp7tI 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqZZkCp7tI=12s> =12s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw=18s> =18s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=41s> =41s

 

C.A.G.

 

 

On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 12:31:56 AM EDT, Chris Liska mailto:chris...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

i can't post the manual. i get a message is too long error. and posting 
pictures seems to be challenging as well.

 

  
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On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 8:36:52 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:

Hello Again Chris.  (Im off from work early today.)

 

Legacy use to say for there logo.   

"Legacy where the only Limitation is your Imagination" 

 

Mike Pung put out a few video's on different methods to get the most

out of your Legacy. (A few years back.) that are both very good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=31s> =31s  

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw=13s> =13s 

 

OUR archives are loaded with good info to get the most form your

Legacy,  all that you have to do is look for it. (OR ASK the GROUP and I know

someone in the group will be all to willing to help you out.)

 

I would guess the Next step for you is to figure out what you want to make then 
you 

can try to see how to use your tools to get the job done the best you can.

I like to tell everyone.  The Legacy is a very good tool, but its the Craftsman 
who makes the art,

not the tool, by its self.

 

Take care. and have a GREAT Memorial Day!

 

C.A.G.

 

 

On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 2:05:34 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

Hello Chris.

I would like to help you, sadly the manual you refer to is not in your e-mail 
to the group.

Could you send us a photo of your machine.  Legacy over the years made a number 
of different modals. 

the 1000/ Alum. rail was made with 3 different length of rail, but the basic 
machine is the same .

How many gear sets do you have? Legacy made 3 set of gears for the 1000.  the 
standard, .25 and X2 gear sets. each gear set will give you a number of 
different pitches that the Legacy can make.  There are two directional gear 
sets, one for right and one for left handed ropes.

The Legacy is a very useful tool, for not only spindles, but it can also do 
flat work, like moldings and joinery. as well as basic lathe type of work, but 
what is really excels at is roping and advance lathe type of work, for things 
like chairs and staircases and decorative furniture .  

Bill.  (Aussiman77181), has a web site, that shows a number of different 
projects.https://www.youtube.com/@aussiman77181

The Groups archives are open to you. 

 

I

Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

2024-05-29 Thread Bob Mark 
I have a manual circa 2006. If you send me an email address i will forward.. it is a out 300 mb.Sent from Bob Mark's iPadOn May 29, 2024, at 9:09 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Hey Chris. I sent a note out.  If all goes well you should have your manual very soon.C.A.G.





On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 11:49:08 PM EDT, Chris Liska  wrote:





I'm still just looking for a complete manual. someone said they were in the archive, but i can't find that. i've also searched the conversation history with no luck.On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 11:27:23 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:
Hello Chris.As a little side bar to this ...   I for one would rather show you how to use your equipment/Legacy to get the most out of your machine, then sell all the parts. Once gone its gone.   Your Legacy could be used to make one amazing machine, ONE that could be used with your CNC and or surpass your CNC capability's all together. All depending on your wants and needs/projects planned. If you are looking to make money with your Legacy, I would suggest to talk to Mike Pung.  He made a very good living using his Wood Chuck Mill. (the early model Legacy LOM.) Here are some of his videos.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqZZkCp7tI=12shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw=18shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=41sC.A.G.





On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 12:31:56 AM EDT, Chris Liska  wrote:





i can't post the manual. i get a message is too long error. and posting pictures seems to be challenging as well.On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 8:36:52 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:Hello Again Chris.  (Im off from work early today.)Legacy use to say for there logo.   "Legacy where the only Limitation is your Imagination" Mike Pung put out a few video's on different methods to get the mostout of your Legacy. (A few years back.) that are both very good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=31s   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw=13s OUR archives are loaded with good info to get the most form yourLegacy,  all that you have to do is look for it. (OR ASK the GROUP and I knowsomeone in the group will be all to willing to help you out.)I would guess the Next step for you is to figure out what you want to make then you can try to see how to use your tools to get the job done the best you can.I like to tell everyone.  The Legacy is a very good tool, but its the Craftsman who makes the art,not the tool, by its self.Take care. and have a GREAT Memorial Day!C.A.G.On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 2:05:34 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
Hello Chris.I would like to help you, sadly the manual you refer to is not in your e-mail to the group.Could you send us a photo of your machine.  Legacy over the years made a number of different modals. the 1000/ Alum. rail was made with 3 different length of rail, but the basic machine is the same .How many gear sets do you have? Legacy made 3 set of gears for the 1000.  the standard, .25 and X2 gear sets. each gear set will give you a number of different pitches that the Legacy can make.  There are two directional gear sets, one for right and one for left handed ropes.The Legacy is a very useful tool, for not only spindles, but it can also do flat work, like moldings and joinery. as well as basic lathe type of work, but what is really excels at is roping and advance lathe type of work, for things like chairs and staircases and decorative furniture .  Bill.  (Aussiman77181), has a web site, that shows a number of different projects.https://www.youtube.com/@aussiman77181The Groups archives are open to you. I hope to talk to you more, latter.Have a good night.C.A.G.





On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 01:43:02 AM EDT, Chris Liska  wrote:





A few years ago I purchased a tool lot (table saw, router table, jointer, planer, floor drill press, dust collector, air filter, lathe, radial arm saw, plus more) and it included the ornamental mill (which i had NO idea what it was at the time. however, it didn't matter b/c the price was right for the rest of the lot with or without this thing).the entire lot had been stored in a warehouse and abused by mice (and possibly other vermin). I've spent the past few years cleaning things and setting up the shop, and i'm now finally getting around to looking at the ornamental mill. I'm still not entirely sure i'm going to keep it,

Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

2024-05-29 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Hey Chris. 
I sent a note out.  If all goes well you should have your manual very soon.
C.A.G.
On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 11:49:08 PM EDT, Chris Liska 
 wrote:  
 
 I'm still just looking for a complete manual. someone said they were in the 
archive, but i can't find that. i've also searched the conversation history 
with no luck.

On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 11:27:23 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:

 Hello Chris.As a little side bar to this ...   I for one would rather show you 
how to use your equipment/Legacy to get the most out of your machine, then sell 
all the parts. Once gone its gone.   Your Legacy could be used to make one 
amazing machine, ONE that could be used with your CNC and or surpass your CNC 
capability's all together. All depending on your wants and needs/projects 
planned. 
If you are looking to make money with your Legacy, I would suggest to talk to 
Mike Pung.  He made a very good living using his Wood Chuck Mill. (the early 
model Legacy LOM.) Here are some of his 
videos.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqZZkCp7tI=12s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw=18s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=41s

C.A.G.

On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 12:31:56 AM EDT, Chris Liska 
 wrote:  
 
 i can't post the manual. i get a message is too long error. and posting 
pictures seems to be challenging as well.


On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 8:36:52 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:

Hello Again Chris.  (Im off from work early today.)
Legacy use to say for there logo.   "Legacy where the only Limitation is your 
Imagination" 
Mike Pung put out a few video's on different methods to get the mostout of your 
Legacy. (A few years back.) that are both very 
good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=31s   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw=13s 
OUR archives are loaded with good info to get the most form yourLegacy,  all 
that you have to do is look for it. (OR ASK the GROUP and I knowsomeone in the 
group will be all to willing to help you out.)
I would guess the Next step for you is to figure out what you want to make then 
you can try to see how to use your tools to get the job done the best you can.I 
like to tell everyone.  The Legacy is a very good tool, but its the Craftsman 
who makes the art,not the tool, by its self.
Take care. and have a GREAT Memorial Day!
C.A.G.

On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 2:05:34 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

 Hello Chris.I would like to help you, sadly the manual you refer to is not in 
your e-mail to the group.Could you send us a photo of your machine.  Legacy 
over the years made a number of different modals. the 1000/ Alum. rail was made 
with 3 different length of rail, but the basic machine is the same .How many 
gear sets do you have? Legacy made 3 set of gears for the 1000.  the standard, 
.25 and X2 gear sets. each gear set will give you a number of different pitches 
that the Legacy can make.  There are two directional gear sets, one for right 
and one for left handed ropes.The Legacy is a very useful tool, for not only 
spindles, but it can also do flat work, like moldings and joinery. as well as 
basic lathe type of work, but what is really excels at is roping and advance 
lathe type of work, for things like chairs and staircases and decorative 
furniture .  Bill.  (Aussiman77181), has a web site, that shows a number of 
different projects.https://www.youtube.com/@aussiman77181The Groups archives 
are open to you. 
I hope to talk to you more, latter.
Have a good night.
C.A.G.
On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 01:43:02 AM EDT, Chris Liska 
 wrote:  
 
 A few years ago I purchased a tool lot (table saw, router table, jointer, 
planer, floor drill press, dust collector, air filter, lathe, radial arm saw, 
plus more) and it included the ornamental mill (which i had NO idea what it was 
at the time. however, it didn't matter b/c the price was right for the rest of 
the lot with or without this thing).
the entire lot had been stored in a warehouse and abused by mice (and possibly 
other vermin). I've spent the past few years cleaning things and setting up the 
shop, and i'm now finally getting around to looking at the ornamental mill. I'm 
still not entirely sure i'm going to keep it, but if i'm going to try to sell 
it, i want to make sure it's fully operational and not missing anything. 
i've contacted legacy woodworking, and they sent me a manual (attached), or at 
least, most of it. i think it's missing pages, and was hoping someone has 
something in PDF form.
it did come with a paper manual, and some project plans; and while the project 
plans are near mint, i'm pretty sure the giant manual was used as a nest, b/c a 
large portion is unusable. 

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Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

2024-05-29 Thread Chris Liska 
I'm still just looking for a complete manual. someone said they were in the 
archive, but i can't find that. i've also searched the conversation history 
with no luck.

On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 11:27:23 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:

> Hello Chris.
> As a little side bar to this ...   I for one would rather show you how to 
> use your equipment/Legacy to get the most out of your machine, then sell 
> all the parts. Once gone its gone.   
> Your Legacy could be used to make one amazing machine, ONE that could be 
> used with your CNC and or surpass your CNC capability's all together. All 
> depending on your wants and needs/projects planned. 
>
> If you are looking to make money with your Legacy, I would suggest to talk 
> to Mike Pung.  He made a very good living using his Wood Chuck Mill. (the 
> early model Legacy LOM.) Here are some of his videos.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqZZkCp7tI=12s
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw=18s
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=41s
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 12:31:56 AM EDT, Chris Liska <
> chris...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> i can't post the manual. i get a message is too long error. and posting 
> pictures seems to be challenging as well.
>
> [image: 20240526_163619.jpg][image: 20240526_195900.jpg][image: 
> 20240526_163813.jpg][image: 20240527_230428.jpg]
>
> On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 8:36:52 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:
>
> Hello Again Chris.  (Im off from work early today.)
>
> Legacy use to say for there logo.   
> "Legacy where the only Limitation is your Imagination" 
>
> Mike Pung put out a few video's on different methods to get the most
> out of your Legacy. (A few years back.) that are both very good.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=31s  
>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw=13s 
>
> OUR archives are loaded with good info to get the most form your
> Legacy,  all that you have to do is look for it. (OR ASK the GROUP and I 
> know
> someone in the group will be all to willing to help you out.)
>
> I would guess the Next step for you is to figure out what you want to make 
> then you 
> can try to see how to use your tools to get the job done the best you can.
> I like to tell everyone.  The Legacy is a very good tool, but its the 
> Craftsman who makes the art,
> not the tool, by its self.
>
> Take care. and have a GREAT Memorial Day!
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
> On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 2:05:34 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
> Hello Chris.
> I would like to help you, sadly the manual you refer to is not in your 
> e-mail to the group.
> Could you send us a photo of your machine.  Legacy over the years made a 
> number of different modals. 
> the 1000/ Alum. rail was made with 3 different length of rail, but the 
> basic machine is the same .
> How many gear sets do you have? Legacy made 3 set of gears for the 1000.  
> the standard, .25 and X2 gear sets. each gear set will give you a number of 
> different pitches that the Legacy can make.  There are two directional gear 
> sets, one for right and one for left handed ropes.
> The Legacy is a very useful tool, for not only spindles, but it can also 
> do flat work, like moldings and joinery. as well as basic lathe type of 
> work, but what is really excels at is roping and advance lathe type of 
> work, for things like chairs and staircases and decorative furniture .  
> Bill.  (Aussiman77181), has a web site, that shows a number of different 
> projects.https://www.youtube.com/@aussiman77181
> The Groups archives are open to you. 
>
> I hope to talk to you more, latter.
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 01:43:02 AM EDT, Chris Liska <
> chris...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> A few years ago I purchased a tool lot (table saw, router table, jointer, 
> planer, floor drill press, dust collector, air filter, lathe, radial arm 
> saw, plus more) and it included the ornamental mill (which i had NO idea 
> what it was at the time. however, it didn't matter b/c the price was right 
> for the rest of the lot with or without this thing).
>
> the entire lot had been stored in a warehouse and abused by mice (and 
> possibly other vermin). I've spent the past few years cleaning things and 
> setting up the shop, and i'm now finally getting around to looking at the 
> ornamental mill. I'm still not entirely sure i'm going to keep it, but if 
> i'm going to try to sell it, i want to make sure it's fully operational and 
> not missing anything. 
>
> i've contacted legacy woodworking, and they sent me a manual (attached), 
> or at least, most of it. i think it's missing pages, and was hoping someone 
> has something in PDF form.
>
> it did come with a paper manual, and some project plans; and while the 
> project plans are near mint, i'm pretty sure the giant manual was used as a 
> nest, b/c a large portion is unusable. 
>
> -- 
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Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

2024-05-29 Thread M.W.Foscue 
Hi Group,
Just a reminder - when you reply to posts here, PLEASE strip off any 
attachments, photos, etc. that are not needed to convey your question/comment.  
Lately, this one and several others have been huge (5MB+) and fill up email 
accounts - especially when several folks reply to a post.  That one 5MB post 
can end up loading my mail box with 15 to 20+ MBs - when some of thos replies 
are only a "Very nice - Thanks" kind of replies.

Thank you.

Mill on!
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: May 29, 2024 12:27 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

Hello Chris.
As a little side bar to this ...   I for one would rather show you how to use 
your equipment/Legacy to get the most out of your machine, then sell all the 
parts. Once gone its gone.   
Your Legacy could be used to make one amazing machine, ONE that could be used 
with your CNC and or surpass your CNC capability's all together. All depending 
on your wants and needs/projects planned. 
 
If you are looking to make money with your Legacy, I would suggest to talk to 
Mike Pung.  He made a very good living using his Wood Chuck Mill. (the early 
model Legacy LOM.) Here are some of his videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqZZkCp7tIt=12s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upwt=18s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-ot=41s
 
C.A.G.
On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 12:31:56 AM EDT, Chris Liska  
wrote:

 
i can't post the manual. i get a message is too long error. and posting 
pictures seems to be challenging as well. 
On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 8:36:52 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:
Hello Again Chris.  (Im off from work early today.) 
Legacy use to say for there logo.   
"Legacy where the only Limitation is your Imagination" 
 
Mike Pung put out a few video's on different methods to get the most
out of your Legacy. (A few years back.) that are both very good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-ot=31s  
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upwt=13s 
 
OUR archives are loaded with good info to get the most form your
Legacy,  all that you have to do is look for it. (OR ASK the GROUP and I know
someone in the group will be all to willing to help you out.)
 
I would guess the Next step for you is to figure out what you want to make then 
you 
can try to see how to use your tools to get the job done the best you can.
I like to tell everyone.  The Legacy is a very good tool, but its the Craftsman 
who makes the art,
not the tool, by its self.
 
Take care. and have a GREAT Memorial Day!
 
C.A.G.
On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 2:05:34 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
 
Hello Chris.
I would like to help you, sadly the manual you refer to is not in your e-mail 
to the group.
Could you send us a photo of your machine.  Legacy over the years made a number 
of different modals. 
the 1000/ Alum. rail was made with 3 different length of rail, but the basic 
machine is the same .
How many gear sets do you have? Legacy made 3 set of gears for the 1000.  the 
standard, .25 and X2 gear sets. each gear set will give you a number of 
different pitches that the Legacy can make.  There are two directional gear 
sets, one for right and one for left handed ropes.
The Legacy is a very useful tool, for not only spindles, but it can also do 
flat work, like moldings and joinery. as well as basic lathe type of work, but 
what is really excels at is roping and advance lathe type of work, for things 
like chairs and staircases and decorative furniture .  
Bill.  (Aussiman77181), has a web site, that shows a number of different 
projects.https://www.youtube.com/@aussiman77181
The Groups archives are open to you. 
 
I hope to talk to you more, latter.
 
Have a good night.
C.A.G.
On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 01:43:02 AM EDT, Chris Liska  
wrote:


 



A few years ago I purchased a tool lot (table saw, router table, jointer, 
planer, floor drill press, dust collector, air filter, lathe, radial arm saw, 
plus more) and it included the ornamental mill (which i had NO idea what it was 
at the time. however, it didn't matter b/c the price was right for the rest of 
the lot with or without this thing). 
the entire lot had been stored in a warehouse and abused by mice (and possibly 
other vermin). I've spent the past few years cleaning things and setting up the 
shop, and i'm now finally getting around to looking at the ornamental mill. I'm 
still not entirely sure i'm going to keep it, but if i'm going to try to sell 
it, i want to make sure it's fully operational and not missing anything. 
 
i've contacted legacy woodworking, and they sent me a manual (attached), or at 
least, most of it. i think it's missing pages, and was hoping someone has 
something in PDF form.
 
it did come with a paper manual, and some project plans; and while the project 
plans are near mint, i'm pretty sure the giant manual was used as a nest, b/c a 
large portion is unusable.

Re: Eccentric milling

2024-05-28 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Thanks Curt
Just messing around lol. RnD
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 8:16 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Now that is Neat! Tim.
> I really like that Horizontal router.
> Keep up the good work.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 06:55:57 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I kind of like that one though? Hm may have to check that out.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 1:40 AM  wrote:
>
> Yea it is not the best I know but there just isn’t much out there in the
> way of eccentric chucks
>
> This is the best I found lately
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jni6Qnth844=313s_channel=TokyoCraftsman
>
>
>
>
> https://www.woodworkersemporium.com/shop-by-category/chucks/eccentric-turning/
>
>
>
> seems to be lots of attachments too like a face plate makes it similar to
> my orbit chuck but as always pricy
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2024 12:49 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Eccentric milling
>
>
>
> I have the axminster style. I had a smaller piece today I was messing with
> and could change the
>
> eccentric without taking it off but its only about 3 inches in diameter.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 9:19 PM  wrote:
>
> Indexing might be a problem you would have to remove it from the chuck to
> index it and there would be no way to set it all running true again because
> its set off centre you really need an  eccentric chuck of some kind to keep
> everything running true and eccentric to the previous cuts AXMINSTER
>
> wakes an ok one the only annoying bit is you have to remove and replace a
> part to index it each time
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2024 11:55 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: Eccentric milling
>
>
>
> This could be done with a four jaw machinist chuck with independent jaws,
> yes?  I have a small 4" four jaw chuck that will screw right onto the REVO
> drive spindle.  Indexing could be direct on the driven gear ring (factory
> stock) or with my high index count mod. Possibilities get wild with
> templates and bed taper
>
> DanK
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 9:48:43 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
> Bill .
>
>
>
> Who makes that off-set chuck that you use in the video?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 09:43:21 PM EDT,  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Curt it was fun to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:10 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Eccentric milling
>
>
>
> I am glad you re-posted this Bill.
>
>
>
> I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 07:24:22 PM EDT, bulk...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus_channel=aussiman77181
>
>
>
> this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I
> would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw
> the idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I
> did, always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.
>
> this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for
> videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>

Re: Eccentric milling

2024-05-28 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Now that is Neat! Tim.I really like that Horizontal router.Keep up the good 
work.
C.A.G.
On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 06:55:57 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 I kind of like that one though? Hm may have to check that out. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 1:40 AM  wrote:


Yea it is not the best I know but there just isn’t much out there in the way of 
eccentric chucks 

This is the best I found lately 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jni6Qnth844=313s_channel=TokyoCraftsman

 

https://www.woodworkersemporium.com/shop-by-category/chucks/eccentric-turning/

 

seems to be lots of attachments too like a face plate makes it similar to my 
orbit chuck but as always pricy 

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 12:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

I have the axminster style. I had a smaller piece today I was messing with and 
could change the 

eccentric without taking it off but its only about 3 inches in diameter.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 9:19 PM  wrote:


Indexing might be a problem you would have to remove it from the chuck to index 
it and there would be no way to set it all running true again because its set 
off centre you really need an  eccentric chuck of some kind to keep everything 
running true and eccentric to the previous cuts AXMINSTER

wakes an ok one the only annoying bit is you have to remove and replace a part 
to index it each time

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 11:55 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

This could be done with a four jaw machinist chuck with independent jaws, yes?  
I have a small 4" four jaw chuck that will screw right onto the REVO drive 
spindle.  Indexing could be direct on the driven gear ring (factory stock) or 
with my high index count mod. Possibilities get wild with templates and bed 
taper

DanK

 

On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 9:48:43 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:


Bill .

 

Who makes that off-set chuck that you use in the video?  

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 09:43:21 PM EDT,  wrote: 

 

 

Thanks Curt it was fun to do

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:10 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

I am glad you re-posted this Bill.

 

I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 07:24:22 PM EDT, bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
 wrote: 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus_channel=aussiman77181 

 

this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I 
would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw the 
idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I did, 
always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.

this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for 
videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason

 

Bill

 

 

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Re: Eccentric milling

2024-05-28 Thread Tim Ziegler 
I kind of like that one though? Hm may have to check that out.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 1:40 AM  wrote:

> Yea it is not the best I know but there just isn’t much out there in the
> way of eccentric chucks
>
> This is the best I found lately
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jni6Qnth844=313s_channel=TokyoCraftsman
>
>
>
>
> https://www.woodworkersemporium.com/shop-by-category/chucks/eccentric-turning/
>
>
>
> seems to be lots of attachments too like a face plate makes it similar to
> my orbit chuck but as always pricy
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2024 12:49 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Eccentric milling
>
>
>
> I have the axminster style. I had a smaller piece today I was messing with
> and could change the
>
> eccentric without taking it off but its only about 3 inches in diameter.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 9:19 PM  wrote:
>
> Indexing might be a problem you would have to remove it from the chuck to
> index it and there would be no way to set it all running true again because
> its set off centre you really need an  eccentric chuck of some kind to keep
> everything running true and eccentric to the previous cuts AXMINSTER
>
> wakes an ok one the only annoying bit is you have to remove and replace a
> part to index it each time
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2024 11:55 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: Eccentric milling
>
>
>
> This could be done with a four jaw machinist chuck with independent jaws,
> yes?  I have a small 4" four jaw chuck that will screw right onto the REVO
> drive spindle.  Indexing could be direct on the driven gear ring (factory
> stock) or with my high index count mod. Possibilities get wild with
> templates and bed taper
>
> DanK
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 9:48:43 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
> Bill .
>
>
>
> Who makes that off-set chuck that you use in the video?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 09:43:21 PM EDT,  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Curt it was fun to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:10 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Eccentric milling
>
>
>
> I am glad you re-posted this Bill.
>
>
>
> I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 07:24:22 PM EDT, bulk...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus_channel=aussiman77181
>
>
>
> this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I
> would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw
> the idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I
> did, always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.
>
> this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for
> videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: Eccentric milling

2024-05-28 Thread bulkeley 
Yea it is not the best I know but there just isn’t much out there in the way of 
eccentric chucks 

This is the best I found lately https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jni6Qnth844 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jni6Qnth844=313s_channel=TokyoCraftsman> 
=313s_channel=TokyoCraftsman

 

https://www.woodworkersemporium.com/shop-by-category/chucks/eccentric-turning/

 

seems to be lots of attachments too like a face plate makes it similar to my 
orbit chuck but as always pricy 

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 12:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

I have the axminster style. I had a smaller piece today I was messing with and 
could change the 

eccentric without taking it off but its only about 3 inches in diameter.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 9:19 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Indexing might be a problem you would have to remove it from the chuck to index 
it and there would be no way to set it all running true again because its set 
off centre you really need an  eccentric chuck of some kind to keep everything 
running true and eccentric to the previous cuts AXMINSTER

wakes an ok one the only annoying bit is you have to remove and replace a part 
to index it each time

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
cdkr...@gmail.com <mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 11:55 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

This could be done with a four jaw machinist chuck with independent jaws, yes?  
I have a small 4" four jaw chuck that will screw right onto the REVO drive 
spindle.  Indexing could be direct on the driven gear ring (factory stock) or 
with my high index count mod. Possibilities get wild with templates and bed 
taper

DanK

 

On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 9:48:43 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

Bill .

 

Who makes that off-set chuck that you use in the video?  

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 09:43:21 PM EDT, mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks Curt it was fun to do

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:10 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

I am glad you re-posted this Bill.

 

I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 07:24:22 PM EDT, bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au>  mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus_channel=aussiman77181> 
_channel=aussiman77181 

 

this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I 
would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw the 
idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I did, 
always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.

this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for 
videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason

 

Bill

 

 

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RE: Eccentric milling

2024-05-28 Thread bulkeley 
Ok sounds good pics are always good

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 12:46 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

Thanks Bill yeah this was great thats actually what I worked on today. 

Trying to figure things out. I did not get where I wanted to go. But I was 

more interested in the end grain. Spirals. I will post some pics.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 6:24 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus_channel=aussiman77181> 
_channel=aussiman77181 

 

this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I 
would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw the 
idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I did, 
always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.

this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for 
videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason

 

Bill

 

 

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Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

2024-05-27 Thread Chris Liska 
I've found the standard, 25x, and 2x gear sets (Index and Duplex), a baggie 
of drive gears, a few indexing wheels (i think?), some kind of spinning 
plate with an MDF circle, thin-stock follower, a vertical something. I 
really don't know all i have. there are more things in the bin that i'm 
still working on cleaning (it's all gross).

I also have what seem to be multiple drive/head stock pieces, and multiple 
tail stock pieces.

Like i said, this was included in a tool lot, but I didn't buy it directly 
from the original owner. from what i can tell, he passed away suddenly, and 
his son used it as payment for services, and then i bought it from that guy 
(i don't know how long he had it, and if he was careful with all the 
accessories).

I already have a 4'x4' 3 axis CNC, so I don't know if it's necessary to 
keep this thing. it has kind of a big footprint. but i want to make sure 
it's all working and I know what I have before i do anything (keep or sell).

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Re: Eccentric milling

2024-05-27 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Thanks for sharing those Bill.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
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On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 9:35 PM  wrote:

>
>
> This was a project for me so I didn’t take many pics but I did find these
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2024 12:12 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Eccentric milling
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
>
>
> Nice video - thanks for sharing!
>
> Now - if you will just post a photo or two of the finished product.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: May 27, 2024 7:24 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Eccentric milling
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus_channel=aussiman77181
>
>
>
> this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I
> would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw
> the idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I
> did, always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.
>
> this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for
> videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason
>
>
>
> Bill
>
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Re: Eccentric milling

2024-05-27 Thread Tim Ziegler 
I have the axminster style. I had a smaller piece today I was messing with
and could change the
eccentric without taking it off but its only about 3 inches in diameter.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 9:19 PM  wrote:

> Indexing might be a problem you would have to remove it from the chuck to
> index it and there would be no way to set it all running true again because
> its set off centre you really need an  eccentric chuck of some kind to keep
> everything running true and eccentric to the previous cuts AXMINSTER
>
> wakes an ok one the only annoying bit is you have to remove and replace a
> part to index it each time
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2024 11:55 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: Eccentric milling
>
>
>
> This could be done with a four jaw machinist chuck with independent jaws,
> yes?  I have a small 4" four jaw chuck that will screw right onto the REVO
> drive spindle.  Indexing could be direct on the driven gear ring (factory
> stock) or with my high index count mod. Possibilities get wild with
> templates and bed taper
>
> DanK
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 9:48:43 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
> Bill .
>
>
>
> Who makes that off-set chuck that you use in the video?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 09:43:21 PM EDT,  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Curt it was fun to do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:10 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Eccentric milling
>
>
>
> I am glad you re-posted this Bill.
>
>
>
> I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 07:24:22 PM EDT, bulk...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus_channel=aussiman77181
>
>
>
> this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I
> would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw
> the idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I
> did, always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.
>
> this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for
> videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Eccentric milling

2024-05-27 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Hey I would like to see some of that done that way too.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 8:55 PM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> This could be done with a four jaw machinist chuck with independent jaws,
> yes?  I have a small 4" four jaw chuck that will screw right onto the REVO
> drive spindle.  Indexing could be direct on the driven gear ring (factory
> stock) or with my high index count mod. Possibilities get wild with
> templates and bed taper
> DanK
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 9:48:43 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
>> Bill .
>>
>> Who makes that off-set chuck that you use in the video?
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 09:43:21 PM EDT, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks Curt it was fun to do
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:10 AM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Eccentric milling
>>
>>
>>
>> I am glad you re-posted this Bill.
>>
>>
>>
>> I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 07:24:22 PM EDT, bulk...@mmnet.com.au <
>> bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus_channel=aussiman77181
>>
>>
>>
>> this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought
>> I would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first
>> saw the idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy
>> so I did, always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.
>>
>> this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for
>> videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Eccentric milling

2024-05-27 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Thanks Bill yeah this was great thats actually what I worked on today.
Trying to figure things out. I did not get where I wanted to go. But I was
more interested in the end grain. Spirals. I will post some pics.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
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On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 6:24 PM  wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus_channel=aussiman77181
>
>
>
> this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I
> would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw
> the idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I
> did, always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.
>
> this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for
> videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: Thank you for your service.

2024-05-27 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Wow so sorry Bill
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
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> Ours was last month and I am ashamed to say there was protesters out
> wanting it banned it was on the news at times I am ashamed
>
> of my country thank heavens they are a minority I hope you all don’t have
> that dishonourable crap over there.
>
> I thank all service men and women in all the jobs they serve in both our
> countries we must never forget.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
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> *Sent:* Monday, May 27, 2024 9:16 PM
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>
> good morning All,
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> I just want to reach out and extend a very warm thank you to
>
> all of you who have served our country in the Military or any other
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> thank you, thank you.
>
> "God Bless America" and Aussie Land too.
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> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
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>
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RE: Eccentric milling

2024-05-27 Thread bulkeley 
Indexing might be a problem you would have to remove it from the chuck to index 
it and there would be no way to set it all running true again because its set 
off centre you really need an  eccentric chuck of some kind to keep everything 
running true and eccentric to the previous cuts AXMINSTER

wakes an ok one the only annoying bit is you have to remove and replace a part 
to index it each time

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 11:55 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

This could be done with a four jaw machinist chuck with independent jaws, yes?  
I have a small 4" four jaw chuck that will screw right onto the REVO drive 
spindle.  Indexing could be direct on the driven gear ring (factory stock) or 
with my high index count mod. Possibilities get wild with templates and bed 
taper

DanK

 

On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 9:48:43 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

Bill .

 

Who makes that off-set chuck that you use in the video?  

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 09:43:21 PM EDT, mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks Curt it was fun to do

 

Bill

 

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Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

I am glad you re-posted this Bill.

 

I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus_channel=aussiman77181> 
_channel=aussiman77181 

 

this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I 
would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw the 
idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I did, 
always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.

this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for 
videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason

 

Bill

 

 

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Re: Eccentric milling

2024-05-27 Thread M.W.Foscue 
Bill,

Nice video - thanks for sharing!
Now - if you will just post a photo or two of the finished product.

Thanks.
Mac
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Subject: Eccentric milling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqusab_channel=aussiman77181 
 
this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I 
would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw the 
idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I did, 
always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.
this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for 
videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason
 
Bill


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Re: Eccentric milling

2024-05-27 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com 
This could be done with a four jaw machinist chuck with independent jaws, 
yes?  I have a small 4" four jaw chuck that will screw right onto the REVO 
drive spindle.  Indexing could be direct on the driven gear ring (factory 
stock) or with my high index count mod. Possibilities get wild with 
templates and bed taper
DanK

On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 9:48:43 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

> Bill .
>
> Who makes that off-set chuck that you use in the video?  
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 09:43:21 PM EDT,  wrote: 
>
>
> Thanks Curt it was fun to do
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:10 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Eccentric milling
>
>  
>
> I am glad you re-posted this Bill.
>
>  
>
> I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.
>
> Thank you.
>
>  
>
> C.A.G.
>
>  
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 07:24:22 PM EDT, bulk...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus_channel=aussiman77181 
>
>  
>
> this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I 
> would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw 
> the idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I 
> did, always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.
>
> this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for 
> videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
>  
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Re: Eccentric milling

2024-05-27 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Bill .
Who makes that off-set chuck that you use in the video?  
C.A.G.
On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 09:43:21 PM EDT,  wrote:  
 
 
Thanks Curt it was fun to do

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:10 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

  

I am glad you re-posted this Bill.

  

I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.

Thank you.

  

C.A.G.

  

On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 07:24:22 PM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
 wrote: 

  

  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus_channel=aussiman77181 

 

this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I 
would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw the 
idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I did, 
always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.

this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for 
videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason

 

Bill

 

 

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RE: Eccentric milling

2024-05-27 Thread bulkeley 
Thanks Curt it was fun to do

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 10:10 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Eccentric milling

 

I am glad you re-posted this Bill.

 

I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus_channel=aussiman77181> 
_channel=aussiman77181 

 

this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I 
would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw the 
idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I did, 
always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.

this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for 
videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason

 

Bill

 

 

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Re: Eccentric milling

2024-05-27 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 I am glad you re-posted this Bill.
I always liked the skill and craftsmanship you show in this video.Thank you.
C.A.G.
On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 07:24:22 PM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus_channel=aussiman77181 

  

this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks  so I thought I 
would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw the 
idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I did, 
always good to show the many possibilities of our mills.

this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for 
videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason

  

Bill

  

  
 

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RE: Thank you for your service.

2024-05-27 Thread bulkeley 
Ours was last month and I am ashamed to say there was protesters out wanting it 
banned it was on the news at times I am ashamed

of my country thank heavens they are a minority I hope you all don’t have that 
dishonourable crap over there.

I thank all service men and women in all the jobs they serve in both our 
countries we must never forget.

 

Bill 

 

 

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Subject: Thank you for your service.

 

good morning All, 

I just want to reach out and extend a very warm thank you to 

all of you who have served our country in the Military or any other

branch of service, law enforcement, Fire Fighters, Special Forces. etc...

thank you, thank you. 

"God Bless America" and Aussie Land too. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

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Re: 10 good reasons to buy a Legacy Ornamental mill

2024-05-26 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Thanks Curt. Good stuff.


Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
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On Sun, May 26, 2024 at 8:56 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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> Here is another step down Memory lane.
> http://benchmark.20m.com/reviews/LegacyMill/toolslegacymill.html
>
>
> C.A.G.
> On Sunday, May 26, 2024 at 09:52:32 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
> This is form 2010.
>
>
> https://discover.hubpages.com/games-hobbies/10-Good-Reasons-to-Buy-a-Legacy-Ornamental-Mill
>
> I like it, I hope you all do to.  ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: 10 good reasons to buy a Legacy Ornamental mill

2024-05-26 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Here is another step down Memory 
lane.http://benchmark.20m.com/reviews/LegacyMill/toolslegacymill.html

C.A.G.On Sunday, May 26, 2024 at 09:52:32 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:  
 
 This is form 2010.
https://discover.hubpages.com/games-hobbies/10-Good-Reasons-to-Buy-a-Legacy-Ornamental-Mill

I like it, I hope you all do to.  ;-)
C.A.G.

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Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

2024-05-25 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Hello Again Chris.  (Im off from work early today.)

Legacy use to say for there logo.   
"Legacy where the only Limitation is your Imagination" 

Mike Pung put out a few video's on different methods to get the most
out of your Legacy. (A few years back.) that are both very good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=31s  
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw=13s 

OUR archives are loaded with good info to get the most form your
Legacy,  all that you have to do is look for it. (OR ASK the GROUP and I 
know
someone in the group will be all to willing to help you out.)

I would guess the Next step for you is to figure out what you want to make 
then you 
can try to see how to use your tools to get the job done the best you can.
I like to tell everyone.  The Legacy is a very good tool, but its the 
Craftsman who makes the art,
not the tool, by its self.

Take care. and have a GREAT Memorial Day!

C.A.G.


On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 2:05:34 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

> Hello Chris.
> I would like to help you, sadly the manual you refer to is not in your 
> e-mail to the group.
> Could you send us a photo of your machine.  Legacy over the years made a 
> number of different modals. 
> the 1000/ Alum. rail was made with 3 different length of rail, but the 
> basic machine is the same .
> How many gear sets do you have? Legacy made 3 set of gears for the 1000.  
> the standard, .25 and X2 gear sets. each gear set will give you a number of 
> different pitches that the Legacy can make.  There are two directional gear 
> sets, one for right and one for left handed ropes.
> The Legacy is a very useful tool, for not only spindles, but it can also 
> do flat work, like moldings and joinery. as well as basic lathe type of 
> work, but what is really excels at is roping and advance lathe type of 
> work, for things like chairs and staircases and decorative furniture .  
> Bill.  (Aussiman77181), has a web site, that shows a number of different 
> projects.https://www.youtube.com/@aussiman77181
> The Groups archives are open to you. 
>
> I hope to talk to you more, latter.
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 01:43:02 AM EDT, Chris Liska <
> chris...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> A few years ago I purchased a tool lot (table saw, router table, jointer, 
> planer, floor drill press, dust collector, air filter, lathe, radial arm 
> saw, plus more) and it included the ornamental mill (which i had NO idea 
> what it was at the time. however, it didn't matter b/c the price was right 
> for the rest of the lot with or without this thing).
>
> the entire lot had been stored in a warehouse and abused by mice (and 
> possibly other vermin). I've spent the past few years cleaning things and 
> setting up the shop, and i'm now finally getting around to looking at the 
> ornamental mill. I'm still not entirely sure i'm going to keep it, but if 
> i'm going to try to sell it, i want to make sure it's fully operational and 
> not missing anything. 
>
> i've contacted legacy woodworking, and they sent me a manual (attached), 
> or at least, most of it. i think it's missing pages, and was hoping someone 
> has something in PDF form.
>
> it did come with a paper manual, and some project plans; and while the 
> project plans are near mint, i'm pretty sure the giant manual was used as a 
> nest, b/c a large portion is unusable. 
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Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual

2024-05-25 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Hello Chris.I would like to help you, sadly the manual you refer to is not in 
your e-mail to the group.Could you send us a photo of your machine.  Legacy 
over the years made a number of different modals. the 1000/ Alum. rail was made 
with 3 different length of rail, but the basic machine is the same .How many 
gear sets do you have? Legacy made 3 set of gears for the 1000.  the standard, 
.25 and X2 gear sets. each gear set will give you a number of different pitches 
that the Legacy can make.  There are two directional gear sets, one for right 
and one for left handed ropes.The Legacy is a very useful tool, for not only 
spindles, but it can also do flat work, like moldings and joinery. as well as 
basic lathe type of work, but what is really excels at is roping and advance 
lathe type of work, for things like chairs and staircases and decorative 
furniture .  Bill.  (Aussiman77181), has a web site, that shows a number of 
different projects.https://www.youtube.com/@aussiman77181The Groups archives 
are open to you. 
I hope to talk to you more, latter.
Have a good night.
C.A.G.
On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 01:43:02 AM EDT, Chris Liska 
 wrote:  
 
 A few years ago I purchased a tool lot (table saw, router table, jointer, 
planer, floor drill press, dust collector, air filter, lathe, radial arm saw, 
plus more) and it included the ornamental mill (which i had NO idea what it was 
at the time. however, it didn't matter b/c the price was right for the rest of 
the lot with or without this thing).
the entire lot had been stored in a warehouse and abused by mice (and possibly 
other vermin). I've spent the past few years cleaning things and setting up the 
shop, and i'm now finally getting around to looking at the ornamental mill. I'm 
still not entirely sure i'm going to keep it, but if i'm going to try to sell 
it, i want to make sure it's fully operational and not missing anything. 
i've contacted legacy woodworking, and they sent me a manual (attached), or at 
least, most of it. i think it's missing pages, and was hoping someone has 
something in PDF form.
it did come with a paper manual, and some project plans; and while the project 
plans are near mint, i'm pretty sure the giant manual was used as a nest, b/c a 
large portion is unusable. 

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Re: Learning a new way to do things.

2024-05-21 Thread Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 

I use open office free

https://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html

excel spreadsheet work too

On 5/21/2024 11:17 AM, jrig...@gmail.com wrote:

To All,
Whay software is needed to open the file "LegacyCharts_V11.3.ods"?

Thanks,
Jim

On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 5:37:08 PM UTC-5 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:


The attached is the latest iteration of Legacy Charts all on one
spreadsheet workbook. The latest is rotary table indexing as
posted above.  The sheet should be self explanatory.  Someday
perhaps I'll gather all the charts into one chart that is dynamic
but I'm not sure it will be an improvement.
DanK

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 11:29:04 AM UTC-4 Okla Mike
(Liltwisted) wrote:

That would be great, go for it

On 5/16/2024 8:36 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:

Thank you for posting these reference materials! Would it be
agreeable to you if I included this on the LegacyCharts
spreadsheet I have been accumulating?  It makes for a handy
local reference all things Legacy.
DanK

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 12:06:52 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

Hello Again everyone!

I have posted these video's ,Mike posted some years back.
on his methods of indexing, These methods have always
worked for me in the past. and I hope some of you will
learn and try his methods as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=17s
 Crank
handle indexing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw=4s
 Carriage
travel indexing.

As well as some notes for Tim K. on crank handle indexing.


  Crank Handle Indexing for the Rotary Table


Alternative Indexing Method for Legacy Ornamental Mills




Mike Pung posted an idea of using the stock gears as a
method of indexing the rotary table instead of the stock
handle. Using the a drive shaft to control the rotary
tables motion the following indexes can be obtained with
the stock gear set. I have come up with what I believe to
be a close to definitive answer on the number of indexes
available. They are as follows.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 15, 16, 18, 20, 24, 30,
32, 36, 40, 48, 60, 64, 72, 80, 96, 120, 128, 144, 160,
192, and 240.




The stock gear set will turn the spindle a specific
number of times per x-axis lead screw turn. For more
information, see the Crank Handle Indexing article.



Standard gear set - Leadscrew handle turns for one
spindle RevolutionGear  No. of Cranks
A   8
B   12
C   16
D   18
E   20
F   24
G   30

The rotary table makes one revolution for every 8 cranks
or 45º increments per revolution. By multiplying the
number of cranks required to make one 1 spindle rotation
by 8 you can calculate the number of turns the x axis
lead screw crank handle will need to turn to move the
rotary table one revolution. Each crank of the lead screw
handle can be used as an equal division.

Index Chart for Legacy's Standard Gear setGear  No. of
Cranks / Divisions  Degree Increments
A   64  5.625
B   96  3.75
C   128 2.812
D   144 2.5
E   160 2.25
F   192 1.875
G   240 1.5

These can be broken down by skipping crank revolutions.
For example, using the A gear and making a cut once every
4 cranks you can index the rotary table every 16
locations. However as you can see by this example, it
would be much faster to index the table using a different
method. Using the numbers above, here are the possible
indexes available for each gear.

Rotary Table Indexes Standard Gear SetGear  
Divisions
A

2 , 4 , 8 , 16 , 32 , 64
B

2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 12 , 16 , 24 , 32 , 48 , 96
C

2 , 4 , 8 , 16 , 32 , 64 , 128
D

2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 9 , 12 , 16 , 18 , 24 , 36 , 48 , 72
, 144
E

Re: Learning a new way to do things.

2024-05-21 Thread jrig...@gmail.com 
To All,
Whay software is needed to open the file "LegacyCharts_V11.3.ods"?

Thanks,
Jim

On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 5:37:08 PM UTC-5 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> The attached is the latest iteration of Legacy Charts all on one 
> spreadsheet workbook. The latest is rotary table indexing as posted above.  
> The sheet should be self explanatory.  Someday perhaps I'll gather all the 
> charts into one chart that is dynamic but I'm not sure it will be an 
> improvement.
> DanK
>
> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 11:29:04 AM UTC-4 Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
> wrote:
>
>> That would be great, go for it
>> On 5/16/2024 8:36 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for posting these reference materials!  Would it be agreeable 
>> to you if I included this on the LegacyCharts spreadsheet I have been 
>> accumulating?  It makes for a handy local reference all things Legacy.  
>> DanK
>>
>> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 12:06:52 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Again everyone!
>>>
>>> I have posted these video's ,Mike posted some years back.
>>> on his methods of indexing,  These methods have always worked for me in 
>>> the past. and I hope some of you will learn and try his methods as well.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=17s Crank handle indexing.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw=4s Carriage travel 
>>> indexing.
>>>
>>> As well as some notes for Tim K. on crank handle indexing.
>>> Crank Handle Indexing for the Rotary Table Alternative Indexing Method 
>>> for Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mike Pung posted an idea of using the stock gears as a method of 
>>> indexing the rotary table instead of the stock handle. Using the a drive 
>>> shaft to control the rotary tables motion the following indexes can be 
>>> obtained with the stock gear set. I have come up with what I believe to be 
>>> a close to definitive answer on the number of indexes available. They are 
>>> as follows.
>>>
>>> 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 15, 16, 18, 20, 24, 30, 32, 36, 40, 48, 
>>> 60, 64, 72, 80, 96, 120, 128, 144, 160, 192, and 240.
>>> --
>>>
>>> The stock gear set will turn the spindle a specific number of times per 
>>> x-axis lead screw turn. For more information, see the Crank Handle 
>>> Indexing article. 
>>> 
>>> Standard gear set - Leadscrew handle turns for one spindle Revolution 
>>> Gear No. of Cranks 
>>> A 8 
>>> B 12 
>>> C 16 
>>> D 18 
>>> E 20 
>>> F 24 
>>> G 30 
>>>
>>> The rotary table makes one revolution for every 8 cranks or 45º 
>>> increments per revolution. By multiplying the number of cranks required to 
>>> make one 1 spindle rotation by 8 you can calculate the number of turns the 
>>> x axis lead screw crank handle will need to turn to move the rotary table 
>>> one revolution. Each crank of the lead screw handle can be used as an equal 
>>> division.
>>> Index Chart for Legacy's Standard Gear set 
>>> Gear No. of Cranks / Divisions Degree Increments 
>>> A 64 5.625 
>>> B 96 3.75 
>>> C 128 2.812 
>>> D 144 2.5 
>>> E 160 2.25 
>>> F 192 1.875 
>>> G 240 1.5 
>>>
>>> These can be broken down by skipping crank revolutions. For example, 
>>> using the A gear and making a cut once every 4 cranks you can index the 
>>> rotary table every 16 locations. However as you can see by this example, it 
>>> would be much faster to index the table using a different method. Using the 
>>> numbers above, here are the possible indexes available for each gear.
>>> Rotary Table Indexes Standard Gear Set 
>>> Gear 
>>> Divisions
>>> A
>>> 2 , 4 , 8 , 16 , 32 , 64
>>> B
>>> 2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 12 , 16 , 24 , 32 , 48 , 96
>>> C
>>> 2 , 4 , 8 , 16 , 32 , 64 , 128
>>> D
>>> 2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 9 , 12 , 16 , 18 , 24 , 36 , 48 , 72 , 144
>>> E
>>> 2 , 4 , 5 , 8 , 10 , 16 , 20 , 32 , 40 , 80 , 160
>>> F
>>> 2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 12 , 16 , 24 , 32 , 48 , 64 , 96 , 192
>>> G
>>> 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 8 , 10 , 12 , 15 , 16 , 20 , 24 , 30 , 40 , 48 , 60 
>>> , 80 , 120 , 240
>>> --
>>>
>>> Questions or comments or corrections, please feel free to contact me - 
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> Updated: 6/27/2010
>>>
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
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RE: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern

2024-05-20 Thread M.W.Foscue 
Bill,
Thank you.
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: May 20, 2024 4:41 AM
To: 
Subject: RE: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern

Yea Mac it depends on the preference of the person doing the pattern I searched 
all through my legacy pics to find the different examples of each
One looks like a cut diamond shape all strait  and the other has the rounded 
pineapple look like the outside of one
Looking through all the old legacy videos they seem to always call the strait 
sided ones done with the V bit diamond 
and the ones with the rope bit pineapple and sone times they say rope or 
pineapple pattern but they are different when you look close
 
Bill
 
 
 
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 6:07 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern


Bill,
 
Very nice of you to post that - much appreciated.
For some of the examples of the "diamond" carve it appears to be fairly close 
to the pineapple - and on the others you can definitely tell the difference.
 
Cheers
Mac



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Sent: May 20, 2024 3:56 AM
To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)>
Subject: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern

A few days ago I was discussing different legacy spindle patterns with someone 
and the subject of diamond and pineapple patterns came up
And I was asked is there any difference well yes there is each one is milled 
with a different router bit and I dont think this has ever been 
addressed here before, the pineapple pattern is milled with rope molding router 
bits while the diamond pattern is milled with strait V groove router bits
Here is a sheet showing the difference.
 
 
Bill


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Re: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern

2024-05-20 Thread Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
The biggest limitation with the crossing cut is actually the approach to 
the wood.  You have infinitely variables to blade choice when you are 
working on a straight cut, tapered or not, milling from the top 
centered.  Then if you are trying to make a ball or pineapple shape, you 
will need to mill from the side.  In this position, the only way you 
will be able to come around the profile is going to be with a Y-axis 
template follower.  The most common bit to use on this type of a cut 
will be a ball bit.  Then if you are all into jigs like Bill, you will 
be able to tilt the router to match the pitch and get a rope pattern if 
you desire, to follow around the curve of the ball.  Your legacy is only 
a good place to start, insert craftsman and watch the magic.


Mike OK

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Yea Mac it depends on the preference of the person doing the pattern I 
searched all through my legacy pics to find the different examples of each


One looks like a cut diamond shape all strait  and the other has the 
rounded pineapple look like the outside of one


Looking through all the old legacy videos they seem to always call the 
strait sided ones done with the V bit diamond


and the ones with the rope bit pineapple and sone times they say rope 
or pineapple pattern but they are different when you look close


Bill

*From:*legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue

*Sent:* Monday, May 20, 2024 6:07 PM
*To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern

Bill,

Very nice of you to post that - much appreciated.

For some of the examples of the "diamond" carve it appears to be 
fairly close to the pineapple - and on the others you can definitely 
tell the difference.


Cheers

Mac




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To: 
Subject: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern

A few days ago I was discussing different legacy spindle patterns with 
someone and the subject of diamond and pineapple patterns came up


And I was asked is there any difference well yes there is each one is 
milled with a different router bit and I don’t think this has ever 
been addressed here before, the pineapple pattern is milled with rope 
molding router bits while the diamond pattern is milled with strait V 
groove router bits


Here is a sheet showing the difference.

Bill

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Re: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern

2024-05-20 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Well done on the research Bill.

Kind Regards,

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On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 3:41 AM  wrote:

> Yea Mac it depends on the preference of the person doing the pattern I
> searched all through my legacy pics to find the different examples of each
>
> One looks like a cut diamond shape all strait  and the other has the
> rounded pineapple look like the outside of one
>
> Looking through all the old legacy videos they seem to always call the
> strait sided ones done with the V bit diamond
>
> and the ones with the rope bit pineapple and sone times they say rope or
> pineapple pattern but they are different when you look close
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Monday, May 20, 2024 6:07 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
>
>
> Very nice of you to post that - much appreciated.
>
> For some of the examples of the "diamond" carve it appears to be fairly
> close to the pineapple - and on the others you can definitely tell the
> difference.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: May 20, 2024 3:56 AM
> To: 
> Subject: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern
>
>
>
> A few days ago I was discussing different legacy spindle patterns with
> someone and the subject of diamond and pineapple patterns came up
>
> And I was asked is there any difference well yes there is each one is
> milled with a different router bit and I don’t think this has ever been
> addressed here before, the pineapple pattern is milled with rope molding
> router bits while the diamond pattern is milled with strait V groove router
> bits
>
> Here is a sheet showing the difference.
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern

2024-05-20 Thread Tim Ziegler 
my thoughts exactly Mac.

Kind Regards,

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On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 3:07 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Bill,
>
>
>
> Very nice of you to post that - much appreciated.
>
> For some of the examples of the "diamond" carve it appears to be fairly
> close to the pineapple - and on the others you can definitely tell the
> difference.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: May 20, 2024 3:56 AM
> To: 
> Subject: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern
>
>
>
> A few days ago I was discussing different legacy spindle patterns with
> someone and the subject of diamond and pineapple patterns came up
>
> And I was asked is there any difference well yes there is each one is
> milled with a different router bit and I don’t think this has ever been
> addressed here before, the pineapple pattern is milled with rope molding
> router bits while the diamond pattern is milled with strait V groove router
> bits
>
> Here is a sheet showing the difference.
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern

2024-05-20 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Great information Bill.
I have only made the Diamond pattern.
Was very happy with the result. Would be great
to see a cabinet that has it incorporated into it for sure.

Kind Regards,

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On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 2:56 AM  wrote:

> A few days ago I was discussing different legacy spindle patterns with
> someone and the subject of diamond and pineapple patterns came up
>
> And I was asked is there any difference well yes there is each one is
> milled with a different router bit and I don’t think this has ever been
> addressed here before, the pineapple pattern is milled with rope molding
> router bits while the diamond pattern is milled with strait V groove router
> bits
>
> Here is a sheet showing the difference.
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill
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RE: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern

2024-05-20 Thread bulkeley 
Yea Mac it depends on the preference of the person doing the pattern I searched 
all through my legacy pics to find the different examples of each

One looks like a cut diamond shape all strait  and the other has the rounded 
pineapple look like the outside of one

Looking through all the old legacy videos they seem to always call the strait 
sided ones done with the V bit diamond 

and the ones with the rope bit pineapple and sone times they say rope or 
pineapple pattern but they are different when you look close

 

Bill

 

 

 

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 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 6:07 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern

 

Bill,

 

Very nice of you to post that - much appreciated.

For some of the examples of the "diamond" carve it appears to be fairly close 
to the pineapple - and on the others you can definitely tell the difference.

 

Cheers

Mac

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Subject: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern

 

A few days ago I was discussing different legacy spindle patterns with someone 
and the subject of diamond and pineapple patterns came up

And I was asked is there any difference well yes there is each one is milled 
with a different router bit and I don’t think this has ever been addressed here 
before, the pineapple pattern is milled with rope molding router bits while the 
diamond pattern is milled with strait V groove router bits

Here is a sheet showing the difference.

 

 

Bill

 

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Re: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern

2024-05-20 Thread M.W.Foscue 
Bill,

Very nice of you to post that - much appreciated.
For some of the examples of the "diamond" carve it appears to be fairly close 
to the pineapple - and on the others you can definitely tell the difference.

Cheers
Mac
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To: 
Subject: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern

A few days ago I was discussing different legacy spindle patterns with someone 
and the subject of diamond and pineapple patterns came up
And I was asked is there any difference well yes there is each one is milled 
with a different router bit and I dont think this has ever been 
addressed here before, the pineapple pattern is milled with rope molding router 
bits while the diamond pattern is milled with strait V groove router bits
Here is a sheet showing the difference.
 
 
Bill


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RE: New Magnetic base for the Legacy

2024-05-19 Thread bulkeley 
I agree Mike perhaps 4 adjusting fixed legs would be the way to go for getting 
the best yield then the second side of them all would be 

Just a flat cut

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 12:47 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Magnetic base for the Legacy

 

Nice job Curt.  

I see the value in milling the bone flat but I do see an issue with all the 
bones not being the same.  (damn nature!" I almost feel that one at a time 
would be best.  Also parallel cuts to the base might not always be the best 
yield for the bones either.  I would fix one end of the mag base on a strong 
hinge and have the other on a screw or shim to be able to match the milling 
blade to the best path  down the bone.  You may not get enough angle on your 
rails to get the best cut. So a tilting mag base may be just the ticket.  Next 
I guess you will need to design a mini planer to make bone planks.  Oh dem 
bones!

Mike OK

On 5/19/2024 7:18 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Hello Everyone.

 

Just got done playing around with my newest toy for my Legacy.

 

The Magnetic base was a lucky find last week. (I got it cheap!)  I used two 
pieces of 3/4" plywood, cut them so they fit into the Legacy's rail. put two 
screws on each end of the Mag. base and mounted the Mag. base onto the Legacy. 

Form there I used hot melt glue to glue down these bones onto my steel plates. 
(new but old 7 1/4" circler saw blades cut into blank plates.) (Bye the way 
these blades were $1.00each.) ;-)

 

I have used Hot melt glue a lot in the past, but never on steel.  

I took a number of light cuts and everything held together nicely.

 

If anyone has any questions, Please ask.

 

talk to you all more latter.

Have a good weekend everyone.

 

C.A.G.

 



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Re: New Magnetic base for the Legacy

2024-05-19 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Nice idea Mike.That would be easy enough to do.
I think I will try it.  We need to figure out how to grow bones that are more 
useable.  ;-P
C.A.G.
On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 10:46:59 PM EDT, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
 wrote:  
 
  
Nice job Curt.  
 
I see the value in milling the bone flat but I do see an issue with all the 
bones not being the same.  (damn nature!" I almost feel that one at a time 
would be best.  Also parallel cuts to the base might not always be the best 
yield for the bones either.  I would fix one end of the mag base on a strong 
hinge and have the other on a screw or shim to be able to match the milling 
blade to the best path  down the bone.  You may not get enough angle on your 
rails to get the best cut. So a tilting mag base may be just the ticket.  Next 
I guess you will need to design a mini planer to make bone planks.  Oh dem 
bones!
 
Mike OK
 
 On 5/19/2024 7:18 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
  
  Hello Everyone. 
  Just got done playing around with my newest toy for my Legacy. 
  The Magnetic base was a lucky find last week. (I got it cheap!)  I used two 
pieces of 3/4" plywood, cut them so they fit into the Legacy's rail. put two 
screws on each end of the Mag. base and mounted the Mag. base onto the Legacy.  
Form there I used hot melt glue to glue down these bones onto my steel plates. 
(new but old 7 1/4" circler saw blades cut into blank plates.) (Bye the way 
these blades were $1.00each.) ;-) 
  I have used Hot melt glue a lot in the past, but never on steel.   I took a 
number of light cuts and everything held together nicely. 
  If anyone has any questions, Please ask. 
  talk to you all more latter. Have a good weekend everyone. 
  C.A.G. 
  
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Re: New Magnetic base for the Legacy

2024-05-19 Thread Tim Ziegler 
lol right on Sir
Kind Regards,

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On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 9:46 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:

> Nice job Curt.
>
> I see the value in milling the bone flat but I do see an issue with all
> the bones not being the same.  (damn nature!" I almost feel that one at a
> time would be best.  Also parallel cuts to the base might not always be the
> best yield for the bones either.  I would fix one end of the mag base on a
> strong hinge and have the other on a screw or shim to be able to match the
> milling blade to the best path  down the bone.  You may not get enough
> angle on your rails to get the best cut. So a tilting mag base may be just
> the ticket.  Next I guess you will need to design a mini planer to make
> bone planks.  Oh dem bones!
>
> Mike OK
> On 5/19/2024 7:18 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> Just got done playing around with my newest toy for my Legacy.
>
> The Magnetic base was a lucky find last week. (I got it cheap!)  I used
> two pieces of 3/4" plywood, cut them so they fit into the Legacy's rail.
> put two screws on each end of the Mag. base and mounted the Mag. base onto
> the Legacy.
> Form there I used hot melt glue to glue down these bones onto my steel
> plates. (new but old 7 1/4" circler saw blades cut into blank plates.) (Bye
> the way these blades were $1.00each.) ;-)
>
> I have used Hot melt glue a lot in the past, but never on steel.
> I took a number of light cuts and everything held together nicely.
>
> If anyone has any questions, Please ask.
>
> talk to you all more latter.
> Have a good weekend everyone.
>
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Re: New Magnetic base for the Legacy

2024-05-19 Thread Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 

Nice job Curt.

I see the value in milling the bone flat but I do see an issue with all 
the bones not being the same.  (damn nature!" I almost feel that one at 
a time would be best.  Also parallel cuts to the base might not always 
be the best yield for the bones either.  I would fix one end of the mag 
base on a strong hinge and have the other on a screw or shim to be able 
to match the milling blade to the best path  down the bone.  You may not 
get enough angle on your rails to get the best cut. So a tilting mag 
base may be just the ticket.  Next I guess you will need to design a 
mini planer to make bone planks.  Oh dem bones!


Mike OK

On 5/19/2024 7:18 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Hello Everyone.

Just got done playing around with my newest toy for my Legacy.

The Magnetic base was a lucky find last week. (I got it cheap!)  I 
used two pieces of 3/4" plywood, cut them so they fit into the 
Legacy's rail. put two screws on each end of the Mag. base and mounted 
the Mag. base onto the Legacy.
Form there I used hot melt glue to glue down these bones onto my steel 
plates. (new but old 7 1/4" circler saw blades cut into blank plates.) 
(Bye the way these blades were $1.00each.) ;-)


I have used Hot melt glue a lot in the past, but never on steel.
I took a number of light cuts and everything held together nicely.

If anyone has any questions, Please ask.

talk to you all more latter.
Have a good weekend everyone.

C.A.G.

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Re: Learning a new way to do things.

2024-05-19 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Great work Dan

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 5:37 PM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

>
> The attached is the latest iteration of Legacy Charts all on one
> spreadsheet workbook. The latest is rotary table indexing as posted above.
> The sheet should be self explanatory.  Someday perhaps I'll gather all the
> charts into one chart that is dynamic but I'm not sure it will be an
> improvement.
> DanK
>
> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 11:29:04 AM UTC-4 Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
> wrote:
>
>> That would be great, go for it
>> On 5/16/2024 8:36 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for posting these reference materials!  Would it be agreeable
>> to you if I included this on the LegacyCharts spreadsheet I have been
>> accumulating?  It makes for a handy local reference all things Legacy.
>> DanK
>>
>> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 12:06:52 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Again everyone!
>>>
>>> I have posted these video's ,Mike posted some years back.
>>> on his methods of indexing,  These methods have always worked for me in
>>> the past. and I hope some of you will learn and try his methods as well.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=17s Crank handle indexing.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw=4s Carriage travel
>>> indexing.
>>>
>>> As well as some notes for Tim K. on crank handle indexing.
>>> Crank Handle Indexing for the Rotary Table Alternative Indexing Method
>>> for Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mike Pung posted an idea of using the stock gears as a method of
>>> indexing the rotary table instead of the stock handle. Using the a drive
>>> shaft to control the rotary tables motion the following indexes can be
>>> obtained with the stock gear set. I have come up with what I believe to be
>>> a close to definitive answer on the number of indexes available. They are
>>> as follows.
>>>
>>> 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 15, 16, 18, 20, 24, 30, 32, 36, 40, 48,
>>> 60, 64, 72, 80, 96, 120, 128, 144, 160, 192, and 240.
>>> --
>>>
>>> The stock gear set will turn the spindle a specific number of times per
>>> x-axis lead screw turn. For more information, see the Crank Handle
>>> Indexing article.
>>> 
>>> Standard gear set - Leadscrew handle turns for one spindle Revolution
>>> Gear No. of Cranks
>>> A 8
>>> B 12
>>> C 16
>>> D 18
>>> E 20
>>> F 24
>>> G 30
>>>
>>> The rotary table makes one revolution for every 8 cranks or 45º
>>> increments per revolution. By multiplying the number of cranks required to
>>> make one 1 spindle rotation by 8 you can calculate the number of turns the
>>> x axis lead screw crank handle will need to turn to move the rotary table
>>> one revolution. Each crank of the lead screw handle can be used as an equal
>>> division.
>>> Index Chart for Legacy's Standard Gear set
>>> Gear No. of Cranks / Divisions Degree Increments
>>> A 64 5.625
>>> B 96 3.75
>>> C 128 2.812
>>> D 144 2.5
>>> E 160 2.25
>>> F 192 1.875
>>> G 240 1.5
>>>
>>> These can be broken down by skipping crank revolutions. For example,
>>> using the A gear and making a cut once every 4 cranks you can index the
>>> rotary table every 16 locations. However as you can see by this example, it
>>> would be much faster to index the table using a different method. Using the
>>> numbers above, here are the possible indexes available for each gear.
>>> Rotary Table Indexes Standard Gear Set
>>> Gear
>>> Divisions
>>> A
>>> 2 , 4 , 8 , 16 , 32 , 64
>>> B
>>> 2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 12 , 16 , 24 , 32 , 48 , 96
>>> C
>>> 2 , 4 , 8 , 16 , 32 , 64 , 128
>>> D
>>> 2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 9 , 12 , 16 , 18 , 24 , 36 , 48 , 72 , 144
>>> E
>>> 2 , 4 , 5 , 8 , 10 , 16 , 20 , 32 , 40 , 80 , 160
>>> F
>>> 2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 12 , 16 , 24 , 32 , 48 , 64 , 96 , 192
>>> G
>>> 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 8 , 10 , 12 , 15 , 16 , 20 , 24 , 30 , 40 , 48 , 60
>>> , 80 , 120 , 240
>>> --
>>>
>>> Questions or comments or corrections, please feel free to contact me -
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> Updated: 6/27/2010
>>>
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
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Re: Learning a new way to do things.

2024-05-19 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Wow that's Nice!  Thank you Dan.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 06:37:18 PM EDT, cdkr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:  
 
 
The attached is the latest iteration of Legacy Charts all on one spreadsheet 
workbook. The latest is rotary table indexing as posted above.  The sheet 
should be self explanatory.  Someday perhaps I'll gather all the charts into 
one chart that is dynamic but I'm not sure it will be an improvement.DanK
On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 11:29:04 AM UTC-4 Okla Mike (Liltwisted) wrote:

  
That would be great, go for it
 
 On 5/16/2024 8:36 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
  
 Thank you for posting these reference materials!  Would it be agreeable to you 
if I included this on the LegacyCharts spreadsheet I have been accumulating?  
It makes for a handy local reference all things Legacy.  
  DanK
  
  On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 12:06:52 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
  
   Hello Again everyone! 
  I have posted these video's ,Mike posted some years back. on his methods of 
indexing,  These methods have always worked for me in the past. and I hope some 
of you will learn and try his methods as well. 
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=17s Crank handle indexing.
  
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw=4s Carriage travel indexing.
  
  As well as some notes for Tim K. on crank handle indexing.   
Crank Handle Indexing for the Rotary Table
 
Alternative Indexing Method for Legacy Ornamental Mills
  
Mike Pung posted an idea of using the stock gears as a method of indexing the 
rotary table instead of the stock handle. Using the a drive shaft to control 
the rotary tables motion the following indexes can be obtained with the stock 
gear set. I have come up with what I believe to be a close to definitive answer 
on the number of indexes available. They are as follows.
 
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 15, 16, 18, 20, 24, 30, 32, 36, 40, 48, 60, 64, 
72, 80, 96, 120, 128, 144, 160, 192, and 240.
  
The stock gear set will turn the spindle a specific number of times per x-axis 
lead screw turn. For more information, see the Crank Handle Indexing article.
 
Standard gear set - Leadscrew handle turns for one spindle Revolution| Gear | 
No. of Cranks |
| A | 8 |
| B | 12 |
| C | 16 |
| D | 18 |
| E | 20 |
| F | 24 |
| G | 30 |

 
The rotary table makes one revolution for every 8 cranks or 45º increments per 
revolution. By multiplying the number of cranks required to make one 1 spindle 
rotation by 8 you can calculate the number of turns the x axis lead screw crank 
handle will need to turn to move the rotary table one revolution. Each crank of 
the lead screw handle can be used as an equal division.
 
Index Chart for Legacy's Standard Gear set| Gear | No. of Cranks / Divisions | 
Degree Increments |
| A | 64 | 5.625 |
| B | 96 | 3.75 |
| C | 128 | 2.812 |
| D | 144 | 2.5 |
| E | 160 | 2.25 |
| F | 192 | 1.875 |
| G | 240 | 1.5 |

 
These can be broken down by skipping crank revolutions. For example, using the 
A gear and making a cut once every 4 cranks you can index the rotary table 
every 16 locations. However as you can see by this example, it would be much 
faster to index the table using a different method. Using the numbers above, 
here are the possible indexes available for each gear.
 
Rotary Table Indexes Standard Gear Set| Gear |  Divisions  |
|  A  |  2 , 4 , 8 , 16 , 32 , 64  |
|  B  |  2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 12 , 16 , 24 , 32 , 48 , 96  |
|  C  |  2 , 4 , 8 , 16 , 32 , 64 , 128  |
|  D  |  2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 9 , 12 , 16 , 18 , 24 , 36 , 48 , 72 , 144  |
|  E  |  2 , 4 , 5 , 8 , 10 , 16 , 20 , 32 , 40 , 80 , 160  |
|  F  |  2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 12 , 16 , 24 , 32 , 48 , 64 , 96 , 192  |
|  G  |  2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 8 , 10 , 12 , 15 , 16 , 20 , 24 , 30 , 40 , 48 , 
60 , 80 , 120 , 240  |

  
Questions or comments or corrections, please feel free to contact me - Tim
 
Updated: 6/27/2010
  
  
  C.A.G.   
 

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RE: turning a table leg on the New CNC Legacy video

2024-05-18 Thread bulkeley 
I agree a defiant one for the manual mills

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2024 11:17 PM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: turning a table leg on the New CNC Legacy video

 

All the steps are the same as anyone in the group could do on any Manual Legacy 
LOM's.

Fun to watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIt0jTPf50c

 

Have a good day.

 

C.A.G.

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Re: Learning a new way to do things.

2024-05-16 Thread Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 

That would be great, go for it

On 5/16/2024 8:36 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you for posting these reference materials!  Would it be 
agreeable to you if I included this on the LegacyCharts spreadsheet I 
have been accumulating?  It makes for a handy local reference all 
things Legacy.

DanK

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 12:06:52 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

Hello Again everyone!

I have posted these video's ,Mike posted some years back.
on his methods of indexing,  These methods have always worked for
me in the past. and I hope some of you will learn and try his
methods as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=17s
 Crank handle
indexing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw=4s
 Carriage travel
indexing.

As well as some notes for Tim K. on crank handle indexing.


  Crank Handle Indexing for the Rotary Table


Alternative Indexing Method for Legacy Ornamental Mills



Mike Pung posted an idea of using the stock gears as a method of
indexing the rotary table instead of the stock handle. Using the a
drive shaft to control the rotary tables motion the following
indexes can be obtained with the stock gear set. I have come up
with what I believe to be a close to definitive answer on the
number of indexes available. They are as follows.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 15, 16, 18, 20, 24, 30, 32, 36,
40, 48, 60, 64, 72, 80, 96, 120, 128, 144, 160, 192, and 240.



The stock gear set will turn the spindle a specific number of
times per x-axis lead screw turn. For more information, see the
Crank Handle Indexing article.



Standard gear set - Leadscrew handle turns for one spindle
RevolutionGear  No. of Cranks
A   8
B   12
C   16
D   18
E   20
F   24
G   30

The rotary table makes one revolution for every 8 cranks or 45º
increments per revolution. By multiplying the number of cranks
required to make one 1 spindle rotation by 8 you can calculate the
number of turns the x axis lead screw crank handle will need to
turn to move the rotary table one revolution. Each crank of the
lead screw handle can be used as an equal division.

Index Chart for Legacy's Standard Gear setGear  No. of Cranks /
Divisions   Degree Increments
A   64  5.625
B   96  3.75
C   128 2.812
D   144 2.5
E   160 2.25
F   192 1.875
G   240 1.5

These can be broken down by skipping crank revolutions. For
example, using the A gear and making a cut once every 4 cranks you
can index the rotary table every 16 locations. However as you can
see by this example, it would be much faster to index the table
using a different method. Using the numbers above, here are the
possible indexes available for each gear.

Rotary Table Indexes Standard Gear SetGear  
Divisions
A

2 , 4 , 8 , 16 , 32 , 64
B

2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 12 , 16 , 24 , 32 , 48 , 96
C

2 , 4 , 8 , 16 , 32 , 64 , 128
D

2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 9 , 12 , 16 , 18 , 24 , 36 , 48 , 72 , 144
E

2 , 4 , 5 , 8 , 10 , 16 , 20 , 32 , 40 , 80 , 160
F

2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 12 , 16 , 24 , 32 , 48 , 64 , 96 , 192
G

2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 8 , 10 , 12 , 15 , 16 , 20 , 24 , 30 , 40 , 48
, 60 , 80 , 120 , 240



Questions or comments or corrections, please feel free to contact
me - Tim

Updated: 6/27/2010



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Re: Learning a new way to do things.

2024-05-16 Thread Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
After these two methods were developed, I never ever once used another 
indexing plate.


Mike OK

On 5/15/2024 11:06 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Hello Again everyone!

I have posted these video's ,Mike posted some years back.
on his methods of indexing, These methods have always worked for me in 
the past. and I hope some of you will learn and try his methods as well.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=17s 
 Crank handle indexing.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw=4s 
 Carriage travel 
indexing.


As well as some notes for Tim K. on crank handle indexing.


  Crank Handle Indexing for the Rotary Table


Alternative Indexing Method for Legacy Ornamental Mills



Mike Pung posted an idea of using the stock gears as a method of 
indexing the rotary table instead of the stock handle. Using the a 
drive shaft to control the rotary tables motion the following indexes 
can be obtained with the stock gear set. I have come up with what I 
believe to be a close to definitive answer on the number of indexes 
available. They are as follows.


1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 15, 16, 18, 20, 24, 30, 32, 36, 40, 
48, 60, 64, 72, 80, 96, 120, 128, 144, 160, 192, and 240.




The stock gear set will turn the spindle a specific number of times 
per x-axis lead screw turn. For more information, see the Crank Handle 
Indexing article. 



Standard gear set - Leadscrew handle turns for one spindle 
RevolutionGear 	No. of Cranks

A   8
B   12
C   16
D   18
E   20
F   24
G   30

The rotary table makes one revolution for every 8 cranks or 45º 
increments per revolution. By multiplying the number of cranks 
required to make one 1 spindle rotation by 8 you can calculate the 
number of turns the x axis lead screw crank handle will need to turn 
to move the rotary table one revolution. Each crank of the lead screw 
handle can be used as an equal division.


Index Chart for Legacy's Standard Gear setGear 	No. of Cranks / 
Divisions 	Degree Increments

A   64  5.625
B   96  3.75
C   128 2.812
D   144 2.5
E   160 2.25
F   192 1.875
G   240 1.5

These can be broken down by skipping crank revolutions. For example, 
using the A gear and making a cut once every 4 cranks you can index 
the rotary table every 16 locations. However as you can see by this 
example, it would be much faster to index the table using a different 
method. Using the numbers above, here are the possible indexes 
available for each gear.


Rotary Table Indexes Standard Gear SetGear  
Divisions
A

2 , 4 , 8 , 16 , 32 , 64
B

2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 12 , 16 , 24 , 32 , 48 , 96
C

2 , 4 , 8 , 16 , 32 , 64 , 128
D

2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 9 , 12 , 16 , 18 , 24 , 36 , 48 , 72 , 144
E

2 , 4 , 5 , 8 , 10 , 16 , 20 , 32 , 40 , 80 , 160
F

2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 12 , 16 , 24 , 32 , 48 , 64 , 96 , 192
G

2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 8 , 10 , 12 , 15 , 16 , 20 , 24 , 30 , 40 , 48 , 
60 , 80 , 120 , 240




Questions or comments or corrections, please feel free to contact me - 
Tim 


Updated: 6/27/2010



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Re: Learning a new way to do things.

2024-05-16 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Exactly

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 8:36 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Thank you for posting these reference materials!  Would it be agreeable to
> you if I included this on the LegacyCharts spreadsheet I have been
> accumulating?  It makes for a handy local reference all things Legacy.
> DanK
>
> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 12:06:52 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
>> Hello Again everyone!
>>
>> I have posted these video's ,Mike posted some years back.
>> on his methods of indexing,  These methods have always worked for me in
>> the past. and I hope some of you will learn and try his methods as well.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=17s Crank handle indexing.
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw=4s Carriage travel
>> indexing.
>>
>> As well as some notes for Tim K. on crank handle indexing.
>> Crank Handle Indexing for the Rotary TableAlternative Indexing Method
>> for Legacy Ornamental Mills
>> --
>>
>> Mike Pung posted an idea of using the stock gears as a method of indexing
>> the rotary table instead of the stock handle. Using the a drive shaft to
>> control the rotary tables motion the following indexes can be obtained with
>> the stock gear set. I have come up with what I believe to be a close to
>> definitive answer on the number of indexes available. They are as follows.
>>
>> 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 15, 16, 18, 20, 24, 30, 32, 36, 40, 48,
>> 60, 64, 72, 80, 96, 120, 128, 144, 160, 192, and 240.
>> --
>>
>> The stock gear set will turn the spindle a specific number of times per
>> x-axis lead screw turn. For more information, see the Crank Handle
>> Indexing article.
>> 
>> Standard gear set - Leadscrew handle turns for one spindle Revolution
>> GearNo. of Cranks
>> A 8
>> B 12
>> C 16
>> D 18
>> E 20
>> F 24
>> G 30
>>
>> The rotary table makes one revolution for every 8 cranks or 45º
>> increments per revolution. By multiplying the number of cranks required to
>> make one 1 spindle rotation by 8 you can calculate the number of turns the
>> x axis lead screw crank handle will need to turn to move the rotary table
>> one revolution. Each crank of the lead screw handle can be used as an equal
>> division.
>> Index Chart for Legacy's Standard Gear set
>> GearNo. of Cranks / DivisionsDegree Increments
>> A 64 5.625
>> B 96 3.75
>> C 128 2.812
>> D 144 2.5
>> E 160 2.25
>> F 192 1.875
>> G 240 1.5
>>
>> These can be broken down by skipping crank revolutions. For example,
>> using the A gear and making a cut once every 4 cranks you can index the
>> rotary table every 16 locations. However as you can see by this example, it
>> would be much faster to index the table using a different method. Using the
>> numbers above, here are the possible indexes available for each gear.
>> Rotary Table Indexes Standard Gear Set
>> Gear
>> Divisions
>> A
>> 2 , 4 , 8 , 16 , 32 , 64
>> B
>> 2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 12 , 16 , 24 , 32 , 48 , 96
>> C
>> 2 , 4 , 8 , 16 , 32 , 64 , 128
>> D
>> 2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 9 , 12 , 16 , 18 , 24 , 36 , 48 , 72 , 144
>> E
>> 2 , 4 , 5 , 8 , 10 , 16 , 20 , 32 , 40 , 80 , 160
>> F
>> 2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 12 , 16 , 24 , 32 , 48 , 64 , 96 , 192
>> G
>> 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 8 , 10 , 12 , 15 , 16 , 20 , 24 , 30 , 40 , 48 , 60 ,
>> 80 , 120 , 240
>> --
>>
>> Questions or comments or corrections, please feel free to contact me -
>> Tim
>>
>> Updated: 6/27/2010
>>
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
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Re: Learning a new way to do things.

2024-05-16 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com 
Thank you for posting these reference materials!  Would it be agreeable to 
you if I included this on the LegacyCharts spreadsheet I have been 
accumulating?  It makes for a handy local reference all things Legacy.  
DanK

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 12:06:52 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

> Hello Again everyone!
>
> I have posted these video's ,Mike posted some years back.
> on his methods of indexing,  These methods have always worked for me in 
> the past. and I hope some of you will learn and try his methods as well.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=17s Crank handle indexing.
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw=4s Carriage travel indexing.
>
> As well as some notes for Tim K. on crank handle indexing.
> Crank Handle Indexing for the Rotary TableAlternative Indexing Method for 
> Legacy Ornamental Mills
> --
>
> Mike Pung posted an idea of using the stock gears as a method of indexing 
> the rotary table instead of the stock handle. Using the a drive shaft to 
> control the rotary tables motion the following indexes can be obtained with 
> the stock gear set. I have come up with what I believe to be a close to 
> definitive answer on the number of indexes available. They are as follows.
>
> 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 15, 16, 18, 20, 24, 30, 32, 36, 40, 48, 
> 60, 64, 72, 80, 96, 120, 128, 144, 160, 192, and 240.
> --
>
> The stock gear set will turn the spindle a specific number of times per 
> x-axis lead screw turn. For more information, see the Crank Handle 
> Indexing article. 
> 
> Standard gear set - Leadscrew handle turns for one spindle Revolution
> GearNo. of Cranks
> A 8
> B 12
> C 16
> D 18
> E 20
> F 24
> G 30
>
> The rotary table makes one revolution for every 8 cranks or 45º increments 
> per revolution. By multiplying the number of cranks required to make one 1 
> spindle rotation by 8 you can calculate the number of turns the x axis lead 
> screw crank handle will need to turn to move the rotary table one 
> revolution. Each crank of the lead screw handle can be used as an equal 
> division.
> Index Chart for Legacy's Standard Gear set
> GearNo. of Cranks / DivisionsDegree Increments
> A 64 5.625
> B 96 3.75
> C 128 2.812
> D 144 2.5
> E 160 2.25
> F 192 1.875
> G 240 1.5
>
> These can be broken down by skipping crank revolutions. For example, using 
> the A gear and making a cut once every 4 cranks you can index the rotary 
> table every 16 locations. However as you can see by this example, it would 
> be much faster to index the table using a different method. Using the 
> numbers above, here are the possible indexes available for each gear.
> Rotary Table Indexes Standard Gear Set
> Gear
> Divisions
> A
> 2 , 4 , 8 , 16 , 32 , 64
> B
> 2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 12 , 16 , 24 , 32 , 48 , 96
> C
> 2 , 4 , 8 , 16 , 32 , 64 , 128
> D
> 2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 9 , 12 , 16 , 18 , 24 , 36 , 48 , 72 , 144
> E
> 2 , 4 , 5 , 8 , 10 , 16 , 20 , 32 , 40 , 80 , 160
> F
> 2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 12 , 16 , 24 , 32 , 48 , 64 , 96 , 192
> G
> 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 8 , 10 , 12 , 15 , 16 , 20 , 24 , 30 , 40 , 48 , 60 , 
> 80 , 120 , 240
> --
>
> Questions or comments or corrections, please feel free to contact me - Tim
>
> Updated: 6/27/2010
>
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: Mike's video on the Wood chuck and some of his MOD's

2024-05-16 Thread Tim Ziegler 
thanks Curt

Kind Regards,

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On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 10:58 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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> Hello Everyone.
>
> I think they were good inspiration to others, trying to see around the
> box. (so to speak.)
> I know that I have used some of your MOD's over the years.  and I have
> learned a lot form them.
>
> EVERYONE  Im going to make a new post on two of Mike's best concepts.
>
> More in a little bit.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 01:36:38 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Lol for sure
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2024, 9:43 AM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>
> https://youtu.be/ooqZZkCp7tI will start it from the beginning.  Those
> were the simple mods, I got pretty squirrely on some of them.  Those were
> the days
>
> Mike OK
> On 5/15/2024 12:12 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqZZkCp7tI=311s
> I just saw this again. 7yrs old now. but still a lot of fun to watch.
> Thanks Mike. ;-)
>
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Re: Mike's video on the Wood chuck and some of his MOD's

2024-05-15 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Hello Everyone.
I think they were good inspiration to others, trying to see around the box. (so 
to speak.)I know that I have used some of your MOD's over the years.  and I 
have learned a lot form them.
EVERYONE  Im going to make a new post on two of Mike's best concepts.
More in a little bit.
C.A.G. 
On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 01:36:38 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Lol for sure
On Wed, May 15, 2024, 9:43 AM Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
wrote:

  
https://youtu.be/ooqZZkCp7tI will start it from the beginning.  Those were the 
simple mods, I got pretty squirrely on some of them.  Those were the days
 
Mike OK
 
 On 5/15/2024 12:12 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqZZkCp7tI=311s
  I just saw this again. 7yrs old now. but still a lot of fun to watch. Thanks 
Mike. ;-) 
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Re: Mike's video on the Wood chuck and some of his MOD's

2024-05-15 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Lol for sure

On Wed, May 15, 2024, 9:43 AM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
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> https://youtu.be/ooqZZkCp7tI will start it from the beginning.  Those
> were the simple mods, I got pretty squirrely on some of them.  Those were
> the days
>
> Mike OK
> On 5/15/2024 12:12 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqZZkCp7tI=311s
> I just saw this again. 7yrs old now. but still a lot of fun to watch.
> Thanks Mike. ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: Mike's video on the Wood chuck and some of his MOD's

2024-05-15 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Lol

On Wed, May 15, 2024, 9:43 AM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
wrote:

> https://youtu.be/ooqZZkCp7tI will start it from the beginning.  Those
> were the simple mods, I got pretty squirrely on some of them.  Those were
> the days
>
> Mike OK
> On 5/15/2024 12:12 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqZZkCp7tI=311s
> I just saw this again. 7yrs old now. but still a lot of fun to watch.
> Thanks Mike. ;-)
>
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Re: Mike's video on the Wood chuck and some of his MOD's

2024-05-15 Thread Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
https://youtu.be/ooqZZkCp7tI will start it from the beginning.  Those 
were the simple mods, I got pretty squirrely on some of them.  Those 
were the days


Mike OK

On 5/15/2024 12:12 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqZZkCp7tI=311s 


I just saw this again. 7yrs old now. but still a lot of fun to watch.
Thanks Mike. ;-)

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Re: Mike's video on the Wood chuck and some of his MOD's

2024-05-15 Thread Tim Ziegler 
For sure Bill for sure.
Keeps one's mind fresh and full of idea's.

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On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 2:25 AM  wrote:

> Yea never gets old dose it mikes woodchuck
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2024 3:12 PM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Mike's video on the Wood chuck and some of his MOD's
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqZZkCp7tI=311s
>
> I just saw this again. 7yrs old now. but still a lot of fun to watch.
>
> Thanks Mike. ;-)
>
>
>
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Re: Mike's video on the Wood chuck and some of his MOD's

2024-05-15 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Thanks Curt. Yeah I will have to rewatch that for sure.
I have it up as a tab so I don't forget.

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On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 12:12 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqZZkCp7tI=311s
> I just saw this again. 7yrs old now. but still a lot of fun to watch.
> Thanks Mike. ;-)
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RE: Mike's video on the Wood chuck and some of his MOD's

2024-05-15 Thread bulkeley 
Yea never gets old dose it mikes woodchuck

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2024 3:12 PM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: Mike's video on the Wood chuck and some of his MOD's

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqZZkCp7tI 
 =311s

I just saw this again. 7yrs old now. but still a lot of fun to watch.

Thanks Mike. ;-)

 

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Re: Why did you buy an ornamental mill?

2024-05-14 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Welcome Robert,

We try to be good communicators with everyone. We encourage posting and
showing your projects off etc...
We all look forward to seeing what you can create.

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On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 12:28 PM Shuai Robert  wrote:

> an elementary school teacher received one with stand and router as a gift
> rusting in his backyard
>
> I worked at wood supply store and he asked if anyone want it for $300, i
> have never used it, but just for the metal parts it's worth more than 300 i
> think...
>
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> it it's better than any other groups I've ever joined
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> On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 3:24 AM Timothy Krause 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I thought I would toss this question out to hear why you bought your
>> ornamental mill. For me, I bought my first machine when I wanted to
>> bring a different level of details to my current work. I was in a real
>> niche market that I wanted to do some woodworking "tricks" that few
>> people could figure out how they were made.
>>
>> How about you?
>>
>> -Tim
>>
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Re: Why did you buy an ornamental mill?

2024-05-14 Thread M.W.Foscue 
Hi Robert,

Welcome - thanks for your post.

Question re:  "
... received one with stand and router as a gift rusting in his backyard." How 
did that happen? Did some "Ornamental Mill Gnomes/Trolls" put it there one 
night?  Or did he buy the house and the Mill was left behind by previous 
owner?(I can't imagine a neighbor tossing one over the fence into his yard - 
but I guess anything is possible.)I hope you have given it an "indoor home" and 
are taking steps to clean it up and either use it or post its parts  
pieces here for sale.BTW - How'd the router fare - being left "rusting in the 
back yard"?   (Hoping that it was not left out in the elements!)Thanks again - 
looking forward to hearing  seeing more from you.  Please post some pics - 
of the before  after, if you have them.Mac-Original Message-
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an elementary school teacher received one with stand and router as a gift 
rusting in his backyard 
I worked at wood supply store and he asked if anyone want it for $300, i have 
never used it, but just for the metal parts it's worth more than 300 i think...
 
Great group I appreciate all these emails, even though I only read ~10% of it 
it's better than any other groups I've ever joined


On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 3:24 AM Timothy Krause mailto:artmarb...@comcast.net)> wrote:
Hello All,

I thought I would toss this question out to hear why you bought your 
ornamental mill. For me, I bought my first machine when I wanted to 
bring a different level of details to my current work. I was in a real 
niche market that I wanted to do some woodworking "tricks" that few 
people could figure out how they were made.

How about you?

-Tim

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Re: Why did you buy an ornamental mill?

2024-05-14 Thread Shuai Robert 
an elementary school teacher received one with stand and router as a gift
rusting in his backyard

I worked at wood supply store and he asked if anyone want it for $300, i
have never used it, but just for the metal parts it's worth more than 300 i
think...

Great group I appreciate all these emails, even though I only read ~10% of
it it's better than any other groups I've ever joined

On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 3:24 AM Timothy Krause 
wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I thought I would toss this question out to hear why you bought your
> ornamental mill. For me, I bought my first machine when I wanted to
> bring a different level of details to my current work. I was in a real
> niche market that I wanted to do some woodworking "tricks" that few
> people could figure out how they were made.
>
> How about you?
>
> -Tim
>
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Re: May Bones/Sundays project

2024-05-13 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Very good thanks for sharing that with us Scott.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 12:54 PM Scott Gauze  wrote:

> Hey All
> Found a guy in Kentucky that has a lot of wood in quantity and several
> species and he can ship
> Appalachian woodcrafters
> 1-606-244-5250
>
> Sent from Scott Gauze
> 1-606-571-8553
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> On May 13, 2024, at 1:08 PM, 'parr...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental
> Mills  wrote:
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>  Nice !!!
>
>
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
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> On Monday, May 13, 2024, 9:36 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
> Mills  wrote:
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> Good morning everyone.
> Bill etching glass I know it could be done, but that is something that I
> have not tried.
>
> John as far as training.  I suggest to "PLAY" with  your machine as much
> as you can, that is the best training you can get, Try new things and see
> what you come up with.
> AS a Side note. DO NOT attempt to make anything for real while you Play,
> Use "Free" wood, (fire wood, scraps wood, garbage finds. to name a few...
> You do not want to waist good wood while you play.)
>
> Last night after I posted my projects, I went back out and touched up one
> of my bone turnings. Its not 100% true/symmetrical, to the turning, but
> over all I think I like it.
>
> C.A.G.
> On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 9:32:57 PM UTC-4 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> thats why the VCR tapes and videos I would say.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 7:27 PM John Von Brandt 
> wrote:
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> Hey Curt,
> Has anybody done a class on the legacy mill?
>
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 4:58 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> I found some time in the shop today. (and since Tim K. asked, I would show
> you all that I'm NOT out of bone yet.) ;-)
>
> Any question, are, as always welcome. I did some new tricks on these
> that I have  not used before.
> Please let me know what you think?
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: Why did you buy an ornamental mill?

2024-05-13 Thread Bob Mark 
I bought ine in mid 2000. I was and am an avid wood worker but never got into turning. So i saw a video and took the plunge. Am I good with it, No. Do i need to spend more time with it, Yes. I appreciate good equipment and  enjoy the little that I do use it.Sent from Bob Mark's iPadOn May 13, 2024, at 10:56 AM, M.W.Foscue  wrote:Mike,
 
GREAT story - thanks for sharing.
And - Thank you for your service to our nation!
We appreciate all that you contribute to The Group.
 
Thank you!
Mac


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It was the mid 90's and I was still in the Air Force and was working on the next stage in my life, retirement!  So that lasted a week and I was ready to get something started.  Woodworking was always a hobby for me so I was pretty well equipped.  After all, I had a Shop-smith! One day I was looking for a porch post that was too big for my lathe to handle and happened across a column and stair company downtown.  While I was waiting my turn, the customer ordered some balusters and also brought in a chair spindle to see if they could duplicate it.  The lady said no but I was standing behind the guy out of his sight shaking my head yes!  She said just a moment and took the spindle around the corner, I followed her and told her I could do that for her company.  She went back and told the guy yes and the relationship began before I ever said hello.  I noticed the balusters he purchased were pretty plain and asked Betty, after the customer was gone, if I added a rope pattern to the stock part, if she thought it would sell.  She said bring me one and we will see.  I ordered the Wood-Chuck that day and the rest is history.  I've watch the Legacy grow out of the Woodchuck as steel and then aluminum, then to CNC.  But I still hold on to the Woodchuck because of all the things I can do with it, you just can't with the Legacy red line.  My business was 80% based on the turning and roping and 20% on radius mill-work using the Woodchuck or the Williams and Hussy molder.  30 years was a great run and now, looking back, the greatest twist that ever came from the ornamental world was the friends I have made.  Some friends have passed on and others are immortal but fellow sawdust chewers and customers alike have a huge place in my heart.  I found a Customer-friend-student to pass on my twisted ways to. Doug said to me when we first started the possibility of him taking the business, that he loved to see a piece of lumber and visualize what was in there.  I knew right then that he was going to be a great fit!  I'm a lucky man to have had the opportunities I have had.  I guess my secret is this, when asked "Could you do this?" My response is always "Absolutely!  Then I figure out how and smile at what I got myself into.  Never second guess, just get started.  I love this group because I see a lot of the same attitude.  I'm proud of you all!  I am always here if anyone needs help.  And will always be a LiLtwisted.
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On 5/12/2024 5:24 AM, Timothy Krause wrote:
Hello All, I thought I would toss this question out to hear why you bought your ornamental mill. For me, I bought my first machine when I wanted to bring a different level of details to my current work. I was in a real niche market that I wanted to do some woodworking "tricks" that few people could figure out how they were made. How about you? -Tim 
 
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