Re: Spring is coming, and so is Valentine's Day

2024-02-09 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com
The attachment is a LibreOffice Calc workbook.  It should open correctly in
Excel.  It's the same file as before, so I'm not sure why it wouldn't work 
now.
Make sure it's version 11.2.  
DanK

On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 11:58:59 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:

> Hello Everyone.  (just got home from work.)
> Very nice Dan.   I am having a problem opening your file.  (I am down 
> loading it now, and then perhaps I will be able to see what you have there?)
>
> I do like your vases.  Keep up the good work.
> Thank you.
>
> C.A.G.
> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 07:22:31 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Hey Curt you see this? When you get home from work of course. 
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 3:32 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
> Well, it didn't take very long.  I didn't realize that there were still 
> external links
> hanging around in some remote formulas.  Got those fixed, so NOW the
> Legacy Charts 11.2 should work.  
> Can Curt or somebody remove the attachment of 11.1 in previous message
> to eliminate more confusion?  Please?
> DanK
>
> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 12:29:14 PM UTC-5 cdkr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> I finished another vase this morning indexing 12 cuts around the 
> bottom and 5 cuts around the top to start the petals without changing
> the setup. Just used a different move chart.  Again, turned 
> on lathe, moved to REVO, then hand carved petals.  Apple and pear
> are very hard to carve.  They burn easily under power tools.
> So now I'm pretty confident that I have the vernier operation on 
> the 72 hole ring down pat and the charts I printed out are accurate.
> It goes fast when you know what to do.  And it's nice to have a lathe 
> adapter
> that holds the Legacy drive plate spurs. 
> [image: VaseApple.PNG]
>
> I am attaching Legacy Charts 11.1 with the completed and now 
> verified updates.  It seems that every time I post it, I find an error
> just after posting it!  Grandsons helped a lot with the underlying
> math.  It has a new sheet with the underlying development laid
> out and it is *only* for supporting the cells on "Vernier Operation" 
> sheet, and on the VO sheet there is only one cell to interact with.
> Many things not needed by the operator are hidden, and you will
> notice the output range changes depending upon how many moves
> the required index takes. The sheets are protected without password
> to prevent accidental changes.  You may have to unprotect the VO 
> sheet to select print range, otherwise it will print 17 pages of blanks..
> The "Vernier Operation" sheet has operation description and pictures.  
>
> With this setup, it's like having 30 (and more) index rings. In addition,
> indexing is done very precisely on the fly without referring to rulers
> on the frame.  It allows to make multiple passes or even incremental 
> offset passes while maintaining the full range of pitches the gear
> system offers.  
>
> I'll try to answer any questions.
> DanK
> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 9:58:11 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
> Cant wait to see it for sure. 
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 7:44 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
> Thank you, guys.  It is a combo project, turned on lathe, decorated on 
> REVO with top cut 60° V cutter making 15 indexed 6" pitch cuts, and
> then carved on the top.  This is unfinished pear wood. I put Danish
> Oil on it an gave it away immediately to shop visitor, so didn't get a
> picture of it with finish.  Next one is already turned, indexed at 12 cuts
> because it is slightly smaller, and will carve on the top today a different
> style of "petals".  I already like it better.  
> DanK
>
> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 12:15:17 AM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:
>
> Hey Dan!   That's Very nice looking flower pot/vase. 
>
> Did you rope form the side of the vase? (3/9"O"clock position.)
>
> C.A.G.
> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 12:04:02 AM EST, M.W.Foscue <
> mwfo...@earthlink.net> wrote: 
>
>
> Dan,
>
>  
>
> Very nice - thank you for sharing.
>
> Is this a "combination turning & carving" project?
>
>

Re: Spring is coming, and so is Valentine's Day

2024-02-08 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Hello Everyone.  (just got home from work.)Very nice Dan.   I am having a 
problem opening your file.  (I am down loading it now, and then perhaps I will 
be able to see what you have there?)
I do like your vases.  Keep up the good work.Thank you.
C.A.G.On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 07:22:31 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Hey Curt you see this? When you get home from work of course. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 3:32 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

Well, it didn't take very long.  I didn't realize that there were still 
external linkshanging around in some remote formulas.  Got those fixed, so NOW 
theLegacy Charts 11.2 should work.  
Can Curt or somebody remove the attachment of 11.1 in previous messageto 
eliminate more confusion?  Please?DanK

On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 12:29:14 PM UTC-5 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:

I finished another vase this morning indexing 12 cuts around the bottom and 5 
cuts around the top to start the petals without changingthe setup. Just used a 
different move chart.  Again, turned 
on lathe, moved to REVO, then hand carved petals.  Apple and pearare very hard 
to carve.  They burn easily under power tools.So now I'm pretty confident that 
I have the vernier operation on 
the 72 hole ring down pat and the charts I printed out are accurate.It goes 
fast when you know what to do.  And it's nice to have a lathe adapterthat holds 
the Legacy drive plate spurs. 


I am attaching Legacy Charts 11.1 with the completed and now 
verified updates.  It seems that every time I post it, I find an errorjust 
after posting it!  Grandsons helped a lot with the underlyingmath.  It has a 
new sheet with the underlying development laidout and it is only for supporting 
the cells on "Vernier Operation" 
sheet, and on the VO sheet there is only one cell to interact with.
Many things not needed by the operator are hidden, and you willnotice the 
output range changes depending upon how many movesthe required index takes. The 
sheets are protected without passwordto prevent accidental changes.  You may 
have to unprotect the VO sheet to select print range, otherwise it will print 
17 pages of blanks..The "Vernier Operation" sheet has operation description and 
pictures.  

With this setup, it's like having 30 (and more) index rings. In 
addition,indexing is done very precisely on the fly without referring to 
rulerson the frame.  It allows to make multiple passes or even incremental 
offset passes while maintaining the full range of pitches the gearsystem 
offers.  

I'll try to answer any questions.
DanK
On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 9:58:11 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:

Cant wait to see it for sure. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 7:44 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

Thank you, guys.  It is a combo project, turned on lathe, decorated on REVO 
with top cut 60° V cutter making 15 indexed 6" pitch cuts, andthen carved on 
the top.  This is unfinished pear wood. I put DanishOil on it an gave it away 
immediately to shop visitor, so didn't get apicture of it with finish.  Next 
one is already turned, indexed at 12 cutsbecause it is slightly smaller, and 
will carve on the top today a differentstyle of "petals".  I already like it 
better.  
DanK

On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 12:15:17 AM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:

 Hey Dan!   That's Very nice looking flower pot/vase. 
Did you rope form the side of the vase? (3/9"O"clock position.)
C.A.G.On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 12:04:02 AM EST, M.W.Foscue 
 wrote:  
 
 
Dan,

 

Very nice - thank you for sharing.

Is this a "combination turning & carving" project?

Turning the vase, indexing where the petals' start, center point, and end 
points are while vase is still in the lathe using the indexing plate? 

And then removing it from lathe and carving the petals?

 

Thanks again.

Mac

-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Feb 7, 2024 10:19 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Spring is coming, and so is Valentine's Day

 
Very cool and we appreciate all you are doing with those charts. 
Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerOn Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 7:08 PM 
cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:
In the process of verifying the vernier operations of the 72 hole index gear, 
I'm making several vases of different forms as the knife roams.  Part of the 
process is discovering what looks good at the top.  This form doesn't please 
me, so I tried to distract with some spirals at the bottom w indexed dots.  The 
top has 5 petals and there are 15 stripes.  There is an plastic insert so real 
flowers can sit in water. Works a charm.  After a couple more are made, I

Re: Spring is coming, and so is Valentine's Day

2024-02-08 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey Curt you see this? When you get home from work of course.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 3:32 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Well, it didn't take very long.  I didn't realize that there were still
> external links
> hanging around in some remote formulas.  Got those fixed, so NOW the
> Legacy Charts 11.2 should work.
> Can Curt or somebody remove the attachment of 11.1 in previous message
> to eliminate more confusion?  Please?
> DanK
>
> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 12:29:14 PM UTC-5 cdkr...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I finished another vase this morning indexing 12 cuts around the
>> bottom and 5 cuts around the top to start the petals without changing
>> the setup. Just used a different move chart.  Again, turned
>> on lathe, moved to REVO, then hand carved petals.  Apple and pear
>> are very hard to carve.  They burn easily under power tools.
>> So now I'm pretty confident that I have the vernier operation on
>> the 72 hole ring down pat and the charts I printed out are accurate.
>> It goes fast when you know what to do.  And it's nice to have a lathe
>> adapter
>> that holds the Legacy drive plate spurs.
>> [image: VaseApple.PNG]
>>
>> I am attaching Legacy Charts 11.1 with the completed and now
>> verified updates.  It seems that every time I post it, I find an error
>> just after posting it!  Grandsons helped a lot with the underlying
>> math.  It has a new sheet with the underlying development laid
>> out and it is *only* for supporting the cells on "Vernier Operation"
>> sheet, and on the VO sheet there is only one cell to interact with.
>> Many things not needed by the operator are hidden, and you will
>> notice the output range changes depending upon how many moves
>> the required index takes. The sheets are protected without password
>> to prevent accidental changes.  You may have to unprotect the VO
>> sheet to select print range, otherwise it will print 17 pages of blanks..
>> The "Vernier Operation" sheet has operation description and pictures.
>>
>> With this setup, it's like having 30 (and more) index rings. In addition,
>> indexing is done very precisely on the fly without referring to rulers
>> on the frame.  It allows to make multiple passes or even incremental
>> offset passes while maintaining the full range of pitches the gear
>> system offers.
>>
>> I'll try to answer any questions.
>> DanK
>> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 9:58:11 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>
>>> Cant wait to see it for sure.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 7:44 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you, guys.  It is a combo project, turned on lathe, decorated on
>>>> REVO with top cut 60° V cutter making 15 indexed 6" pitch cuts, and
>>>> then carved on the top.  This is unfinished pear wood. I put Danish
>>>> Oil on it an gave it away immediately to shop visitor, so didn't get a
>>>> picture of it with finish.  Next one is already turned, indexed at 12
>>>> cuts
>>>> because it is slightly smaller, and will carve on the top today a
>>>> different
>>>> style of "petals".  I already like it better.
>>>> DanK
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 12:15:17 AM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Dan!   That's Very nice looking flower pot/vase.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you rope form the side of the vase? (3/9"O"clock position.)
>>>>>
>>>>> C.A.G.
>>>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 12:04:02 AM EST, M.W.Foscue <
>>>>> mwfo...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Very nice - thank you for sharing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this a "combination turning & carving" project?
>>>>>
>>>>> Turning the vase, indexing where the petals' start, center point, and
>&g

Re: Spring is coming, and so is Valentine's Day

2024-02-08 Thread Tim Ziegler
Cant wait to see it for sure.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 7:44 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Thank you, guys.  It is a combo project, turned on lathe, decorated on
> REVO with top cut 60° V cutter making 15 indexed 6" pitch cuts, and
> then carved on the top.  This is unfinished pear wood. I put Danish
> Oil on it an gave it away immediately to shop visitor, so didn't get a
> picture of it with finish.  Next one is already turned, indexed at 12 cuts
> because it is slightly smaller, and will carve on the top today a different
> style of "petals".  I already like it better.
> DanK
>
> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 12:15:17 AM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:
>
>> Hey Dan!   That's Very nice looking flower pot/vase.
>>
>> Did you rope form the side of the vase? (3/9"O"clock position.)
>>
>> C.A.G.
>> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 12:04:02 AM EST, M.W.Foscue <
>> mwfo...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dan,
>>
>>
>>
>> Very nice - thank you for sharing.
>>
>> Is this a "combination turning & carving" project?
>>
>> Turning the vase, indexing where the petals' start, center point, and end
>> points are while vase is still in the lathe using the indexing plate?
>>
>> And then removing it from lathe and carving the petals?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Feb 7, 2024 10:19 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: Spring is coming, and so is Valentine's Day
>>
>>
>> Very cool and we appreciate all you are doing with those charts.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> --
>> --
>> On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 7:08 PM cdkr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>> In the process of verifying the vernier operations of the 72 hole index
>> gear, I'm making several vases of different forms as the knife roams.  Part
>> of the process is discovering what looks good at the top.  This form
>> doesn't please me, so I tried to distract with some spirals at the bottom w
>> indexed dots.  The top has 5 petals and there are 15 stripes.  There is an
>> plastic insert so real flowers can sit in water.
>>
>> Works a charm.  After a couple more are made, I'll post the latest tried
>> and true version of Legacy Charts.  It's frustrating to find errors AFTER
>> it's posted.  They're hard to find.
>> [image: Vase.PNG]
>> The lazy Susan in the background was posted before.
>> DanK
>>
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Re: Spring is coming, and so is Valentine's Day

2024-02-08 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com
Thank you, guys.  It is a combo project, turned on lathe, decorated on 
REVO with top cut 60° V cutter making 15 indexed 6" pitch cuts, and
then carved on the top.  This is unfinished pear wood. I put Danish
Oil on it an gave it away immediately to shop visitor, so didn't get a
picture of it with finish.  Next one is already turned, indexed at 12 cuts
because it is slightly smaller, and will carve on the top today a different
style of "petals".  I already like it better.  
DanK

On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 12:15:17 AM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:

> Hey Dan!   That's Very nice looking flower pot/vase. 
>
> Did you rope form the side of the vase? (3/9"O"clock position.)
>
> C.A.G.
> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 12:04:02 AM EST, M.W.Foscue <
> mwfo...@earthlink.net> wrote: 
>
>
> Dan,
>
>  
>
> Very nice - thank you for sharing.
>
> Is this a "combination turning & carving" project?
>
> Turning the vase, indexing where the petals' start, center point, and end 
> points are while vase is still in the lathe using the indexing plate? 
>
> And then removing it from lathe and carving the petals?
>
>  
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Mac
> --------------
> ----------
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Feb 7, 2024 10:19 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Spring is coming, and so is Valentine's Day
>
>  
> Very cool and we appreciate all you are doing with those charts.  
>
> Kind Regards, 
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
> --
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 7:08 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
> In the process of verifying the vernier operations of the 72 hole index 
> gear, I'm making several vases of different forms as the knife roams.  Part 
> of the process is discovering what looks good at the top.  This form 
> doesn't please me, so I tried to distract with some spirals at the bottom w 
> indexed dots.  The top has 5 petals and there are 15 stripes.  There is an 
> plastic insert so real flowers can sit in water.
>  
> Works a charm.  After a couple more are made, I'll post the latest tried 
> and true version of Legacy Charts.  It's frustrating to find errors AFTER 
> it's posted.  They're hard to find. 
> [image: Vase.PNG]
> The lazy Susan in the background was posted before.
> DanK
>
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